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[Slextrem]

Thanks guys! Glad you all like it. I actually made this sketch of Sakura exposing more of her forehead with her hair sort of pushed back behind her headband. Looked really cool. Should I post it after work?

 

Of course you should! If you don't send it to me in a PM!

[bthug]

"Why is Sakura so useless?"

"Every episode Hinata has been giving naruto the V, why hasn't he taken it?" (Makes reference to naruto being gay)

Not everyone is so desperate to take every bit of "V" they get.

[六道仙人]

Jiraiya, in his place, would have taken it, the V.

[Psychox]

Not everyone is so desperate to take every bit of "V" they get.

Because you should get to know the person before doing so or is it too much ?
Last time i started a quarrel and gave legitimate arguments they turned off the comment section ..

 

[StriderC]

Of course you should! If you don't send it to me in a PM!

Lol fine fine. I shall! I think you'll like it.

[bthug]

So anyone think Naruto will lose power putting Sasuke on an equal level for the Naruto/Sasuke fight

[Slextrem]

Lol fine fine. I shall! I think you'll like it.

 

I most definitely will!

 

How are you doing, by the way? It's been a long time since we've talked. Are you enjoying what's happening in the manga right now? I'm a little disappointed to see Sakura cut out of the fight, but with all of those big boys in the playing field, I figured something like that was going to happen.   On the bright side, I love watching Naruto fight alongside Minato. I'm really excited for the next chapter too. I wonder if the Moon Eye Plan is actually going to work, and if it does, what will happen to those on the field. I'm getting the vibe that it will ultimately fail because Obito is using it prematurely, but we'll see.

[Psychox]

^I think its more likely for Sasuke to do one of his hat tricks  pulls ,so he can be somewhat similar to his power level . I say he will get a boost but i don't like it to be rinnegan , its too over used and obvious , something more interesting with a twist element , new ^^.

Edited by Psychox, 09 September 2013 - 04:10 PM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I think the problem is, Sasuke's current state, if he turns good would it "erase".

I'm believing that the point of 540 and "path to radiance" and 631 is to show her that she should love someome else, who's good to her aka a great guy, just like they pointed out, while her view about Sasuke is him involved in dark flames (which were removed on the anime version for no reason) on the meantime shows Naruto being hero and being a great guy who will save the world, her words on "path to radiance".

I'll discard the interaction when they fought as a team because it was just to give nostalgia, but still i hope this is the point not with Sakura hoing for Sasuke be good and whatever, i hope it leads to a point where she deeply confront her feelings not just, "Sasuke is a bad guy" and then discard it.

We already saw Ino and Karin and they were pathetic.

 

It's the same with Rin, there must be a reason of why Kishi made Kakash tell her about Obito's feelings the same happened with Sakura, and then the great guy, if those are moments to push Sakura to stop loving Sasuke then i dont know nothing anymore.

 

How was Ino pathetic?  She's the most ignorant regarding Sasuke.  Ino hasn't seen him for three years.  She didn't see the lows Karin and Sakura experienced and witnessed.  Regarding Rin, I don't know if she would change her feelings to love someone who died.  She can use the enlightenment for growth, but she can't change her feelings because it would solve nothing.  The chance was already gone. Besides, Obito already shoved the real Rin aside for this ideal image he has of her. He blatantly said to Kakashi that to him Rin didn't die, and won't bother considering her feelings when she chose to die protecting the Leaf, because that's all the illusion.  I doubt even saying the real one loved him would stop him now.  It contrasts him and Naruto well.  Naruto would accept Sakura being with Sasuke if it meant she was happy.  Obito only thinks of himself being happy, while what Rin would have wanted is moot.  Naruto's love is selfless, while Obito's is selfish.

 

Sasuke will get rinegan , so he could be at naruto's level

 

We don't know the exact details on how to attain it.  The only case after the Rikudou Sennin is Madara, and he achieved it close to the end of his lifespan.  Plus, it means Sasuke would have to consent to having Senju DNA implanted in him.  Even for power, his pride might not allow it being a proud Uchiha.  Madara didn't have the Rinnegan when fighting with Hashirama, the God of Shinobi, on equal footing.  Sasuke shouldn't need it also.

 

That's...actually true? Hm, didn't think about that. Someone tell me if we have seen the eyes in full potential.

 

I thought we have seen most of it's abilities at the least.  The 7 paths all used by Nagato.  With six proxies using one ability each, he was able to destroy Konoha.  What more does it need to have? 

 

Madara never showed the full potential of the rinnegan, nagato limited himself to those 6 skills but still nothing on the level Madara did with that meteor, there's a lot of stuff on the rinnegan to cover and even Obito is not using it.

If there's something who's yet to be fully explained is the rinnegan.

 

Madara did that meteor with still only his Mangekyou Sharingan active.  Plus, he had his Susanoo active as well to make extra handseals.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 10 September 2013 - 07:32 AM.

[Branden]

 

 

Naruto : Sakura! why... didn't... you.... DOOOOOOOOODGE!!!! *collapses*

[Psychox]

 

How was Ino pathetic?  She's the most ignorant regarding Sasuke.  Ino hasn't seen him for three years.  She didn't see the lows Karin and Sakura experienced and witnessed.  Regarding Rin, I don't know if she would change her feelings to love someone who died.  She can use the enlightenment for growth, but she can't change her feelings because it would solve nothing.  The chance was already gone. Besides, Obito already shoved the real Rin aside for this ideal image he has of her. He blatantly said to Kakashi to him Rin didn't die, and won't bother consider her feelings when she chose to die protecting the Leaf, because that's all the illusion.  I doubt even saying the real one loved him would stop him now.  It contrasts him and Naruto well.  Naruto would accept Sakura being with Sasuke if it meant she was happy.  Obito only thinks of himself being happy, while what Rin would have wanted is moot.  Naruto's love is selfless, while Obito's is selfish.

 

 

We don't know the exact details on how to attain it.  The only case after the Rikudou Sennin is Madara, and he achieved it close to the end of his lifespan.  Plus, it means Sasuke would have to consent to having Senju DNA implanted in him.  Even for power, his pride might not allow it being a proud Uchiha.  Madara didn't have the Rinnegan when fighting with Hashirama, the God of Shinobi, on equal footing.  Sasuke shouldn't need it also.

 

 

I thought we have seen most of it's abilities at the least.  The 7 paths all used by Nagato.  With six proxies using one ability each, he was able to destroy Konoha.  What more does it need to have? 

 

 

Madara did that meteor with still only his Mangekyou Sharingan active.  Plus, he had his Susanoo active as well to make extra handseals.

I think Darkrerst was referring to her talk with her dad , how she should find a perfect love  and she immidiately thought of Sasuke without a doubt ,then her dad remind her of her friends . She loves Sasuke which she has zero time spent with and its her perfect love....... After she saw him in 631 she ran towards him screaming ''Sasuke-kun'' recklessly while Shika and Choji reminded her that Sasuke was the enemy ... Its kind of illogical that love or hers i mean .

Truth be told that scene expressed Sakura's case more than anything regarding her love for Sasuke too, how genuine it is ..

Edited by Psychox, 09 September 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Inferno180]

Hmm as far as the manga is going right now guess with the current events, this is something how I predict it will go (yet still interrelate with NS stuff as this is the NS debate thread).

 

For the whole ordeal of the difference in power between Naruto and Sasuke well, its kinda been notable throughout the series you could see how the strength between Naruto and Sasuke has been advancing higher and higher since the fight with Haku when Naruto first unleashed Kurama's power and Sasuke first awakened his Sharigan. Other events seemingly came up that gave them a sect of evened out capabilities when facing each other but one at times got ahead of the other. Kinda a situation like Naruto when he got sage mode was comparable to Sasuke when he first got the Myangeko Sharigan from Itachi. Then Sasuke pulled ahead when he released the intial Sussano. Then Naruto and Sasuke were practically evened out when it came to the Kurama chakra mode and when Sasuke first got Itachi's eyes, (getting used to them) then it was basically evened out when they both had access to a higher form of mastery for their powers. Naruto getting tailed beast mode as comparible or evened out with Sasuke's EMS with that Sussano. Now with Naruto in TBM using natural chakra from sage mode, its practically offset so from this recent chapter we need to see where Sasuke will go with his power lust again. For NS, yes this will bring some predicable impact to both of them but given the previous factors of Sakura not trusting Sasuke in 635 and Sasuke saying he will end Naruto, there is a new element not seen or revealed yet, how will Sakura be impacted when these events come to harm Naruto? Sakura is impacted by Sasuke but also by Naruto so how will it be espcially in the future from the clue of 635 and Sasuke's desire to fight and his lust for power, just what will Sakura do if Naruto's wellbeing is threatened? This creates a big conflict for her in the future, something we have constantly talked about.

 

As for the current situation with Obito going into tailed beast mode, I speculate we should finally see the final true form of the Juubi. If Obito really has mastered it then he should be capable of overtaking it fully and use its final form. I also suspect we could potentially enter a new arc. Currently its the ten tails revival arc, but in all actually the ten tails has been revived, for a while. This arc began in chapter 593 with the revival of Orochimaru and continued forward with many other events since then like Obitos corruption, the events with Madara and his eyes going to Nagato, the return of the allaince, etc. There have been a few events since then, its been eventful. Now however there may be time for a new arc. A dream world arc, basically the world is pulled into the genjutsu but obviously not everyone like Naruto and a couple others are effected. This type of arc would have a main premise on the conflicts of the characters themselves and what they truely want, like Naruto himself he has all that dream stuff we know well aware but he would outright resist it and say he has the plans to make that stuff true, others like Sasuke would be in the same conflict with his clan being avenged or whatnot. It would be an arc in which the characters must overcome their innermost desires to accept that which they know isn't real but rather have acceptance of reality and the prospect that they can make their own goals and dreams a reality, not something based on illusion. This arc would be highly keen on Obito and his own conflict over how he feels the ninja system was the reason for Rin dying and just for him to have come to terms with accepting that Rin is dead. An arc like this would be highly involving for characters, many of them. Well how does this factor into NS? Well if Sakura was impacted to see what she really wanted in her heart, most likely we would see team 7 as it used to be but what if there was a event that was blurry to her about the one she wanted but it was interrupted by Naruto getting her out of the trance? It would be just another way for Kishi to leave another subliminal hint for NS going off what 631 showed.

 

Think a dream world arc is acceptable or just stop Obito before its too late? Like see what Madara does if that actually saves everyone?

[StriderC]

I most definitely will!
 
How are you doing, by the way? It's been a long time since we've talked. Are you enjoying what's happening in the manga right now? I'm a little disappointed to see Sakura cut out of the fight, but with all of those big boys in the playing field, I figured something like that was going to happen.   On the bright side, I love watching Naruto fight alongside Minato. I'm really excited for the next chapter too. I wonder if the Moon Eye Plan is actually going to work, and if it does, what will happen to those on the field. I'm getting the vibe that it will ultimately fail because Obito is using it prematurely, but we'll see.

Yeahhhh, it has definitely been a while! Lol I'm doing well though. I'll finish the rest of the personal in PM when I get the chance. Overall, I too am enjoying Naruto working with his dad but I just feel like there should be more. Its crazy how the alliance as a whole isn't really doing much. It seems as though they're relying on Naruto and the old generation. Hell, even Sasuke is left in the dust. While I somewhat enjoy that, if the gap gets too big, then there possible future fight is gonna be beyond ridiculous because Kishi is gonna end up having to pull a hug buttpull for Sasuke to even close the gap... I do want more of Sakura. It'd be nice is she weighed in on everything that's happening right now. Hell, I'd love her to be on the scene interacting with Naruto and co but maybe that's wishing for too much
I wonder when Kakashi is gonna reemerge. I don't see things going too far ahead without him. All and all, I'm just kind of going through the motions with the story. I like seeing Naruto kick butt but I don't like when the focus falls solely on him especially when there's numerous people around but that's just me.

[Inferno180]

I just happy we have a chapter early this week, suprised no spoilers so soon.

Edited by Inferno180, 09 September 2013 - 09:37 PM.

[Slextrem]

Yeahhhh, it has definitely been a while! Lol I'm doing well though. I'll finish the rest of the personal in PM when I get the chance. Overall, I too am enjoying Naruto working with his dad but I just feel like there should be more. Its crazy how the alliance as a whole isn't really doing much. It seems as though they're relying on Naruto and the old generation. Hell, even Sasuke is left in the dust. While I somewhat enjoy that, if the gap gets too big, then there possible future fight is gonna be beyond ridiculous because Kishi is gonna end up having to pull a hug buttpull for Sasuke to even close the gap... I do want more of Sakura. It'd be nice is she weighed in on everything that's happening right now. Hell, I'd love her to be on the scene interacting with Naruto and co but maybe that's wishing for too much
I wonder when Kakashi is gonna reemerge. I don't see things going too far ahead without him. All and all, I'm just kind of going through the motions with the story. I like seeing Naruto kick butt but I don't like when the focus falls solely on him especially when there's numerous people around but that's just me.

 

What would be interesting is if the barrier keeps those inside of it from succumbing to Tsukymi...whatever, ( ), while those outside of the barrier fall into the genjutsu. From there, it would be really interesting if we went into Sakura's mind and learned what her desires really are. (I would love it if she breaks free from it on her own. )

 

I feel like that would be an interesting way to resolve the pairings too. Although I'm not sure if it would be considered a good or bad thing if a pairing was brought up during the genjutsu. For example, if Naruto showed up in Sakura's mind while she's under that genjutsu, would that mean that he is someone she desires from her heart? Or is it all just a fantasy created by Obito? I don't know.

 

Thinking about it makes my brain hurt, and I'm sure if the story takes that kind of turn, there will be all sorts of arguments flying around the fandom about it. Anyway, if it could be worked out in an indisputable way, (where we know for sure how Sakura feels, and she gives recognition to her feelings as well), I think it would be a neat way to begin the climax of the love story.

 

Meanwhile Naruto/Minato/Tobirama/Sasuke/Juugo continue to pwn Obito's noob.   I'm so happy that Sasuke is useless right now, even if it's temporary. If the Moon Eye Plan is really going to start next chapter, then I'm sure Sasuke is going to be back in the picture again this week. I mean, he is essentially a genjutsu master. Sort of.

 

I'm not worried at all about the final fight between NaruSasu. Kishimoto has no qualms about throwing power ups at Sasuke. He could pull a Mega Stone out of his pocket, and mega evolve into Mega Charizard, and I wouldn't be phased. All will be fine, just wait and see.

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[六道仙人]

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[Inferno180]

Know what I said about a dream world arc? I just figured something critical out.

If Kishi does do an action in which they are pulled into the infinite tsyukomi, then well he will definately show narutos biggest desires. I can grant that this will happen if the eye of the moon plan launches. It will show a sequence of narutos biggest desires like him as hokage, Sasuke is saved and back etc. a moment like naruto is almost tempted to give in but he would simply say no because this dream of his is not real, because he would strive to make that dream of his real not just occur out of some cheap desperate trick from obito.

Know what this scene would showcase? A preview of the ending, Kishi would literally be showing the ending of the manga, what we would expect in the end for naruto. So if this scene was to involve him being hokage and saving Sasuke, well obviously sakura would be there too, so if sakura was shown in his dream loving him because its something he hopes for well this would do 2 things:

1. This scene would confirm naruto still loves sakura, the illusion would reflect his deepest desires, part of that is sakura loving him. If this is shown well him saying no wouldn't be an anti-ns moment as others would leap on it, naruto would say no to the illusion cause its not what he desires, he wouldn't want to be hokage, just have Sasuke back, or just have sakura love him like that, he knows the trails associated with each of those goals, saying no in the illusion is saying no basically to obito. He knows the real thing from the illusion.

2. Because we know naruto will succeed in his goals well guess what, this scene would be the start of ns going canon because though it would be narutos dream or ideal goal. He would say no and break out of it because its sure what he wants in his dream but he has the will to try and make the dream come true, not just give in to obitos plan. This would literally be it, even in the dream world as it reflects what's ideal we'll narutos heart, he would be able to break out not only due to kurama but also because well this is naruto he has the desire and will to make those come true, that's his weapon against the illusion. This includes all the stuff for being hokage, saving Sasuke, and Sakura's love. If we get a dream world event and scene with narutos inner desires or hopes, well that's game. Even presented as an Illinois it's still what he seeks in his heart but he can make his dream with hokage and his friends still come true. This is not even including how his parents and jiriaya who we would be sure to see as part of his ideal world too.

3. This is just an extra one, what if we also see a sakura event on her end and her ideal dream ends up revealing something to her? Like I said before what if it takes the dream world to subliminally reveal that sakura is moved towards naruto? The illision reflects what is in the heart if the effected one. We know how negatively Sasuke has been impacting sakura, but what if her ideal love ends up surprising her?

What I'm saying from these is well, it's a great scare for the allaince to fall to the eye of the moon plan, but what if it had its bright sides too kinda like how the edo tensei helped for some resolutions and closures kinda like its going on for naruto right now?

[awesome sauce dude]

Lololol I'm not a troll dude. Just stating what I love

[Quinny52]

Thanks guys! Glad you all like it. I actually made this sketch of Sakura exposing more of her forehead with her hair sort of pushed back behind her headband. Looked really cool. Should I post it after work?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and not forgetting, YES!!

 

Send me a PM, let's see it, too.

How you doin', fella. Been boring without you around.

 

@Inferno180 - An early chapter? Where'd you find that out, my man?