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[Don-kun]

Don-Kon he's half right, the things is Naruto can finish those part without displaying feelings for Hinata, he didnt displayed any feelings for her and didnt give all the credit ot her this is the part that i disagree with AzureWaters but still Hinata did a more stuff compared to Sakura that's why he needs to do justice on this arc to show that she's the main heroine of the story he said she was.

For Naruto she's not above everyone else, as which NH and SS claims.

I will never say that Hinata was more concern about Naruto or sacrifice her life for him apart from only living for him.

The reason why many believe that Kurama might be the one who opens Naruto's eyes when it come to Sakura and her role besides him, is that Naruto witnessed many of the things Hinata did for him, but he has never witnessed the things Sakura has done for him and how deeply she care about him.

So no, we has readers as always known that Hinata has not done more for Naruto, but Naruto has only witnessed Hinata effort but not Sakura, believe it or not one way or another Sakura will know how far Naruto is willing to go for her plus the bench scene stuff and Naruto will know how far she is willing to go for him.

[Dalton.T.R]

Wow, I really lost respect for Kishi in this. I don't mind the NH thing, but changing the roles of lead characters really gets to me. I can't think of any other word to describe this than...well...annoying. If you're going to name a character the LEAD male or LEAD female then think ahead and give them a good detailed past. I have to say I'm kind of embarrassed to say I'm inspired by Kishimoto.

If any of you guys are interested in my work, here's a link to another...webpage on this site: http://www.narusaku....showtopic=12456

[KeikoxYusuke]

I will never say that Hinata was more concern about Naruto or sacrifice her life for him apart from only living for him.

The reason why many believe that Kurama might be the one who opens Naruto's eyes when it come to Sakura and her role besides him, is that Naruto witnessed many of the things Hinata did for him, but he has never witnessed the things Sakura has done for him and how deeply she care about him.

So no, we has readers as always known that Hinata has not done more for Naruto, but Naruto has only witnessed Hinata effort but not Sakura, believe it or not one way or another Sakura will know how far Naruto is willing to go for her plus the bench scene stuff and Naruto will know how far she is willing to go for him.

Hey guys! wouldn't it be awesome of Kurama told Naruto of what Sakura was willing to do for him at the Heaven and Earth bridge? Or if Kurama happened to be awake enough to hear Yamato's words about Sakura's feelings counting more then her actions?

It would clear alot of things up...at least as far as Naruto understanding that Sakura really DOES have feelings for him!

[PhenixElite]

First of all, let's talk about facts.
It's not Naruto but Sakura that is seeing him and Sasuke like her little brothers. The Databook confirms that, Sakura likes to play the role of the big sister with them, you can see her seperate them a lot when they are fighting together, she also holds their hands in the Chuunin Exam, like "come on, just make friends".
Naruto in the other hand doesn't see Sakura like a big sister at all, this is not the attitude that he's showing towards her.
Naruto is her light, he's the only one who brings her hope. He supports her in her lovestory.
And he does this for only one thing : Because he loves her, not like a sister but like a woman, a girlfriend.
He loves Sakura, he always did, if he doesn't love her anymore, that would be real bad writing, because Kishi doesn't show that in the manga.
Even if he gets together with Hinata, there will be no logic at all, cause Kishi didn't show a boy who can easly give up about his feelings for her. Feelings that are probably to strong to forget.
He did the same for her what did Hinata for him. He did even better, he risked his life against Gaara to save her, he sacrificed his happiness only for her, he only wants "her" hapiness, that's even why Kishi introduced Sai's speech at the snow village. Sai's words back there woudn't make sense if Naruto is in love right now with Hinata.

The only thing we have to worry about is Kishimoto's writing. If he's a good writer, than there wont be NH canon, cause he didn't gives the right developpement into the manga to change Naruto's feelings for getting him paired with Hinata. This developpement doesn't exist, the only developpement I see is a boy who gives all he got to make the one he loves happy, without asking something in exchange... that's all.
The guy doesn't give up, even if he doesn't get together with Sakura, even if she doesn't love her in the end, he doesn't care, he just loves her.
That's a development made so they can be together in the end, because Kishimoto plays a lot with Sakura's feelings at the same time.
Why do her saying that she doesn't understand her feelings for him in Zabuza's arc and in all 3 Databooks ? Why waiting the end of the manga to show her realize the meaning of those feelings ? Why creating Yamato's speech and Sai's questionning about her feelings for Naruto ?
Naruto doesn't get the "be in love with another person, learn to know about him" developpement. Sakura does.



I really hope Kishi doesn't make us Naruto in love with Hinata at the moment, because this just doesn't make sense right now.
Naruto can't see Sakura as a sister because he doesn't show this kind of attitude to her, like she did for him of Sasuke.
Naruto loves her, Sai isn't stupid either, Kishimoto didn't draw that panel for nothing.

I kinda understand that most of people aren'tso sure anymore about NS being canon, but just keep in mind what Kishimoto wrote in the past, and even recently with the movies and Chikara.
He is showing us Naruto loving Sakura. That's all we need to know.
Chapter 615 is just Hinata's final development, Kishi gives her what she wants, fighting holding Naruto's hands, and give some sh*tty fanservice for Hinata's fandom (NH fandom doesn't exist, they are just all Hinata fans who doesn't care about quality in the pairing story, it just confirmed with chapter 615)
Kishi said in his last ITW that everyone will get their moments. Hinata is the first one to show up, isn't this enough to let you know that she will not appears last ?
We all know that the last charecter getting final developpement will be the most important one into this fight against Obito.
Kishi gives us the impression to forget about her, but I'm sure she will get her story after all characters will be showed up. (Neji will not be the only one to die, be sure of that)

Just don't give a kitten about chapter 615, it's just Hinata's fanservice, like we will have some for Shikamaru and other characters.
Hope I convinced some NS fans here. ^^


See ya.

Sorry for my bad english, I'm russian.

Cant agree more!! Awesome.
Also, dont see a problem with your english.
Very well said.

[mone_]

First of all, let's talk about facts.
It's not Naruto but Sakura that is seeing him and Sasuke like her little brothers. The Databook confirms that, Sakura likes to play the role of the big sister with them, you can see her seperate them a lot when they are fighting together, she also holds their hands in the Chuunin Exam, like "come on, just make friends".
Naruto in the other hand doesn't see Sakura like a big sister at all, this is not the attitude that he's showing towards her.
Naruto is her light, he's the only one who brings her hope. He supports her in her lovestory.
And he does this for only one thing : Because he loves her, not like a sister but like a woman, a girlfriend.
He loves Sakura, he always did, if he doesn't love her anymore, that would be real bad writing, because Kishi doesn't show that in the manga.
Even if he gets together with Hinata, there will be no logic at all, cause Kishi didn't show a boy who can easly give up about his feelings for her. Feelings that are probably to strong to forget.
He did the same for her what did Hinata for him. He did even better, he risked his life against Gaara to save her, he sacrificed his happiness only for her, he only wants "her" hapiness, that's even why Kishi introduced Sai's speech at the snow village. Sai's words back there woudn't make sense if Naruto is in love right now with Hinata.

The only thing we have to worry about is Kishimoto's writing. If he's a good writer, than there wont be NH canon, cause he didn't gives the right developpement into the manga to change Naruto's feelings for getting him paired with Hinata. This developpement doesn't exist, the only developpement I see is a boy who gives all he got to make the one he loves happy, without asking something in exchange... that's all.
The guy doesn't give up, even if he doesn't get together with Sakura, even if she doesn't love her in the end, he doesn't care, he just loves her.
That's a development made so they can be together in the end, because Kishimoto plays a lot with Sakura's feelings at the same time.
Why do her saying that she doesn't understand her feelings for him in Zabuza's arc and in all 3 Databooks ? Why waiting the end of the manga to show her realize the meaning of those feelings ? Why creating Yamato's speech and Sai's questionning about her feelings for Naruto ?
Naruto doesn't get the "be in love with another person, learn to know about him" developpement. Sakura does.



I really hope Kishi doesn't make us Naruto in love with Hinata at the moment, because this just doesn't make sense right now.
Naruto can't see Sakura as a sister because he doesn't show this kind of attitude to her, like she did for him of Sasuke.
Naruto loves her, Sai isn't stupid either, Kishimoto didn't draw that panel for nothing.

I kinda understand that most of people aren'tso sure anymore about NS being canon, but just keep in mind what Kishimoto wrote in the past, and even recently with the movies and Chikara.
He is showing us Naruto loving Sakura. That's all we need to know.
Chapter 615 is just Hinata's final development, Kishi gives her what she wants, fighting holding Naruto's hands, and give some sh*tty fanservice for Hinata's fandom (NH fandom doesn't exist, they are just all Hinata fans who doesn't care about quality in the pairing story, it just confirmed with chapter 615)
Kishi said in his last ITW that everyone will get their moments. Hinata is the first one to show up, isn't this enough to let you know that she will not appears last ?
We all know that the last charecter getting final developpement will be the most important one into this fight against Obito.
Kishi gives us the impression to forget about her, but I'm sure she will get her story after all characters will be showed up. (Neji will not be the only one to die, be sure of that)

Just don't give a kitten about chapter 615, it's just Hinata's fanservice, like we will have some for Shikamaru and other characters.
Hope I convinced some NS fans here. ^^


See ya.

Sorry for my bad english, I'm russian.

Great post!!!!!

Many NS fans believe the things you've said, but we've just waited for so long, we've been given tons of hints and Kishi still keeps trolling. Yes, NS happening at the end is worth waiting, but it's so tiring to wait.. Kishi, please, enough trolling, make NS happen and end this madness that is pairing wars.

[luffyq1]

Copying & pasting a comment from Slextrem's video. Let me state for the record that I completely agree with this comment.

"Here's a question. Why is it that Sakura is being kept in the dark about Sasuke's motive for all of this? Naruto was on the verge of telling her, but he gets interrupted by Kakashi.

Kakashi didn't want word getting out about the truth of Itachi, until the matter could be confirmed and the village was restored back to normal. See, Sakura is under the impression that Sasuke's doing this for no reason at all. I feel like her finding out the truth will ultimately determine her opinion of Sasuke."

Makes perfect sense.

Edited by luffyq1, 03 January 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[swagosaurus]

Copying & pasting a comment from Slextrem's video. Let me state for the record that I completely agree with this comment.

"Here's a question. Why is it that Sakura is being kept in the dark about Sasuke's motive for all of this? Naruto was on the verge of telling her, but he gets interrupted by Kakashi.

Kakashi didn't want word getting out about the truth of Itachi, until the matter could be confirmed and the village was restored back to normal. See, Sakura is under the impression that Sasuke's doing this for no reason at all. I feel like her finding out the truth will ultimately determine her opinion of Sasuke."

Makes perfect sense.

Still won't change the fact he's tried to kill her three times, and the whole manga he's been a genuine prick to her. A few moments of him being nice doesn't counter-balance the negative.

Reason or not, and I'm not trying to sound bashy, but Sasuke's revenge isn't justified. Even if Sakura were to find out about Itachi, it won't really matter, considering he's trying to kill a whole village for the mistake of like three or four people.

Edited by swagosaurus, 03 January 2013 - 11:49 PM.

[luffyq1]

Still won't change the fact he's tried to kill her three times, and the whole manga he's been a genuine prick to her. A few moments of him being nice doesn't counter-balance the negative.

Reason or not, and I'm not trying to sound bashy, but Sasuke's revenge isn't justified. Even if Sakura were to find out about Itachi, it won't really matter, considering he's trying to kill a whole village for the mistake of like three or four people.

Sasuke's actions are justified, well at least in the Naruto world. Naruto may not agree with Sasuke's actions, but he understands why he is doing what he's doing. That's why he hasn't given up on him yet. I think when Sakura learns of this she will also be able to understand his reasoning, I mean come on this is the world of Naruto. I'm in no way saying she will forget what he's done to her. She'll definitely forgive him, and that is something no one can deny.

Edited by luffyq1, 04 January 2013 - 12:16 AM.

[六道仙人]

even if she'll come to know his true reasons behind his bad actions, she'll never understand him because she doesn't knows what is the revenge and the hatred. Naruto knows them, Sakura no. Maybe she'll understand him a little more.

[Hiraishin]

Even if she does find out eventually (which I doubt will happen, cause it doesn't really concern her), I don't think there will be some big revelation on her part because of it. Maybe she'll understand him and his actions a little more, but in the grand scheme of things, it won't really make a difference, I think.

[luffyq1]

even if she'll come to know his true reasons behind his bad actions, she'll never understand him because she doesn't knows what is the revenge and the hatred. Naruto knows them, Sakura no. Maybe she'll understand him a little more.

You're joking, right? Sakura's not a Jinchuuriki, but she understands Naruto's pain all too well. That was the big character development that pertains to NS. You honestly believe for a second that she won't sympathize with Sasuke? Lol, come on now.

[sushi.]

You're joking, right? Sakura's not a Jinchuuriki, but she understands Naruto's pain all too well. That was the big character development that pertains to NS. You honestly believe for a second that she won't sympathize with Sasuke? Lol, come on now.

I think you should start taking people seriously, or else you just look arrogant.

I've not seen anything that can imply that Sakura understands Sasuke. However, it has been shown plenty of times that she thinks of Naruto's feelings. Not once has she tried to think about how it is to be in Sasuke's shoes, if I remember right. But - she puts Naruto's feelings even above her own, one of the reasons I like their bond so much.

To understand someone, I think you either need to walk with them(like Sakura walks with Naruto), or experience the same thing(like Naruto has with Sasuke). At least, that is how it is portrayed in the series.

[六道仙人]

You're joking, right? Sakura's not a Jinchuuriki, but she understands Naruto's pain all too well. That was the big character development that pertains to NS. You honestly believe for a second that she won't sympathize with Sasuke? Lol, come on now.

maybe that's the difference, isn't? He's able to understand Naruto but not Sasuke. just a my opinion anyway...

[Chucky-kun]

I think you should start taking people seriously, or else you just look arrogant.

I've not seen anything that can imply that Sakura understands Sasuke. However, it has been shown plenty of times that she thinks of Naruto's feelings. Not once has she tried to think about how it is to be in Sasuke's shoes, if I remember right. But - she puts Naruto's feelings even above her own, one of the reasons I like their bond so much.

To understand someone, I think you either need to walk with them(like Sakura walks with Naruto), or experience the same thing(like Naruto has with Sasuke). At least, that is how it is portrayed in the series.

*cough* RTN *cough*

[Don-kun]

Sasuke's actions are justified, well at least in the Naruto world. Naruto may not agree with Sasuke's actions, but he understands why he is doing what he's doing. That's why he hasn't given up on him yet. I think when Sakura learns of this she will also be able to understand his reasoning, I mean come on this is the world of Naruto. I'm in no way saying she will forget what he's done to her. She'll definitely forgive him, and that is something no one can deny.

Now now Luffy, were you honestly expecting for Sakura not to forgive Sasuke?
I be honest with you, it would be delusional for any NS fan to believe that Sasuke would not be forgiving by the rest of the Naruto universe, why I do believe that he will have to make amen to all his error.

One last word, If Itachi cannot understand why Sasuke hasn't return to Konoha after learning the truth, are you expecting Sakura to ignore everything and become a fan girl again? Are you forgetting that Naruto and Sasuke will fight while Sasuke will be trying to kill Sakura's best friend?

People will always try to use excuses to justify the SS pairing but honestly I don't believe that pairing has any salvation unless Kishi has a huge fetish for the pairing.

Edited by Don-kun, 04 January 2013 - 12:35 AM.

[Askia31]

I always thought once Sakura find out the truth about Itachi it might lead to Sasusaku. Sakura had 3 panels wondering ''the truth about itachi? what is that?''. You really think Kishi put those for the lulz? Something big will definitely happen to Sakura once she find out about the truth...which will probably about Sasusaku.


Now that naruhina is canon i wouldn't be surprised.

Edited by Askia31, 04 January 2013 - 12:34 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

I always thought once Sakura find out the truth about Itachi it might lead to Sasusaku. Sakura had 3 panels wondering ''the truth about itachi? what is that?''. You really think Kishi put those for the lulz? Something big will definitely happen to Sakura once she find out about the truth...which will probably about Sasusaku.


Now that naruhina is canon i wouldn't be surprised.

If someone tried to murder you a few times because of a reason that was vaguely associated with you, would you understand, forgive, reconcile and elope?

If one of your friends snapped you out of a stupor and then gave you a pep talk, and then you decided that because she was looking fatigued, you needed to give her chakra via your hands, does that mean that you and that friend were instantly together forever?

Reasons plz. (That includes evidence, from the manga, chapters, pages, panels, etc. not the anime)

[Don-kun]

Stop trolling NH is not canon unless Naruto states that he feels the same way she does, anything else is pure speculation, we not even know if Naruto could let her go easy or Hinata will tell him to never give of on the things he desire or ask him to marry her.

We just need to wait to see what is going on.

Honestly it's really sad to see NS fans behaving this way in a NS community, what this world has come to?

[sushi.]

I always thought once Sakura find out the truth about Itachi it might lead to Sasusaku. Sakura had 3 panels wondering ''the truth about itachi? what is that?''. You really think Kishi put those for the lulz? Something big will definitely happen to Sakura once she find out about the truth...which will probably about Sasusaku.


Now that naruhina is canon i wouldn't be surprised.

And what will make Sasuke jump into Sakura's arms? Falling in love with her out of the blue is even worse that how platonic you make Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

@Don-kun, I didn't get your post. What about RTN?

Edited by sushi., 04 January 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

And what will make Sasuke jump into Sakura's arms? Falling in love with her out of the blue is even worse that how platonic you make Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

@Don-kun, I didn't get your post. What about RTN?

RTN plotline has sakura understanding Naruto's pain and wanting him to be happy.