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[ramenanmitsu]

Will Naruto ever find out that the first girl he touched lips with was his Sakura-chan?

Well if he never loved her in the first place, what would it matter? Besides that will make NH look bad.

[六道仙人]

They did just because Kishi implied it when answering that question in regards to Naruto and Hinata being married.

 

Think about it this way NH implied married in canon - everyone assumes NH is gonna get married in the end - everyone assumed NH kissing. See what I mean?

 

 

 

Yes, it did. But until 699.5 Kishi made 700 although it was known that the manga would have ended at 699. But then he made 700 as "the end", and then he comes with the movie which would be the real end with its own manga chapter aka 699.5.

See what I mean? Do I make some sense or I need to rephrase? ^_^ I know sometimes I can be yuckie at explaining, lol!

 

yeah but they said they showed the visual kiss scene between NH at the end and everyone freaked out from the enjoyiment and the amazement.

[applesauceful]

So from what I understand the "NH kissing" spoiler originated from 2ch and was confirmed by a blogger who also went to the preview screening. They said they didn't want to talk too much about the spoilers (which they did however, so that doesn't make any sense) at the risk of them getting in trouble. However, now keep in mind, I'm saying what if, what if those spoilers originated from SP and the people at the screening were told to agree with the spoilers or something (maybe even repost/spread) to help spread misinformation?

 

I don't know. It was just something that popped in my head.

[Atheck]

I saw them post on this thread recently, I think it was after the spoilers came out, but I can't remember what they said, didn't mention anything their contact though. I was going to ask them later but kinda got swept up in the posts...
 
At the moment, the situation doesn't seem to be too bad, like I'm not as worried as I was beforehand, there are still some certain things concerning this I'm not liking, however, haven't lost my faith yet (lost it for a bit after the movie leaks, then got it back. Lost it after 699/700, then got it back. Right now, I'm just going to chill, wait for some reliable info and wait for a summary of the movie on Dec 6th -- also for an image of that poster :))

So you're still convinced in the possibility of a contradictory ending to the movie?
 

Equal to the ones that the 150 people are under a non-disclosure agreement.

Didn't prevent spoilers from leaking to the Internet regardless.

[Swagkura]

It'd be nice if Naruto & Sakura actually talked about the CPR moment in the movie...

[ramenanmitsu]

Yes, it did. But until 699.5 Kishi made 700 although it was known that the manga would have ended at 699. But then he made 700 as "the end", and then he comes with the movie which would be the real end with its own manga chapter aka 699.5.
See what I mean? Do I make some sense or I need to rephrase? ^_^ I know sometimes I can be yuckie at explaining, lol!

If it's a NS end how does it go from NS to NH in 0.5 chapters though? If chapter 700 was a genjutsu, then it doesn't make sense for the characters to be released from it in chapter 699.5 isn't it?

[applesauceful]

So you're still convinced in the possibility of a contradictory ending to the movie?
 

Didn't prevent spoilers from leaking to the Internet regardless.

 

I'll just say this. Right now, the general consensus on the ending is NH/SS. However, the movie isn't out and the chapters are ambiguous. At this point, until the movie is released, there is no ending. So I'm still convinced that there is hope for an NS ending as crazy as it may sound, it wouldn't be any crazier than these past couple of weeks and the direction that Naruto has taken tbh.

[Chatte]

 

yeah but they said they showed the visual kiss scene between NH at the end and everyone freaked out from the enjoyiment and the amazement.

So they showed Naruto and Hinata actually kissing?

 

 

If it's a NS end how does it go from NS to NH in 0.5 chapters though? If chapter 700 was a genjutsu, then it doesn't make sense for the characters to be released from it in chapter 699.5 isn't it?

 

Now that I think better about it, I think what 700 was was just a mix to feint people and make it look as a genjutsu while it was not but it did point towards the possible genjutsu happening in the last, know what I mean?

Thus in the end 700 would remain invalid as it didn't even supposed to exist and 699.5 would remain its real end.

Edited by Chatte, 25 November 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

Well if he never loved her in the first place, what would it matter? Besides that will make NH look bad.

NH is already looking bad. So much bs being done just to make it look believable 

 

So from what I understand the "NH kissing" spoiler originated from 2ch and was confirmed by a blogger who also went to the preview screening. They said they didn't want to talk too much about the spoilers (which they did however, so that doesn't make any sense) at the risk of them getting in trouble. However, now keep in mind, I'm saying what if, what if those spoilers originated from SP and the people at the screening were told to agree with the spoilers or something (maybe even repost/spread) to help spread misinformation?

Come on man. This is just too much of a conspiracy theory 

[Sakura~]

I'll just say this. Right now, the general consensus on the ending is NH/SS. However, the movie isn't out and the chapters are ambiguous. At this point, until the movie is released, there is no ending. So I'm still convinced that there is hope for an NS ending as crazy as it may sound, it wouldn't be any crazier than these past couple of weeks and the direction that Naruto has taken tbh.

Bless this post.

[六道仙人]

If it's a NS end how does it go from NS to NH in 0.5 chapters though? If chapter 700 was a genjutsu, then it doesn't make sense for the characters to be released from it in chapter 699.5 isn't it?

 

that's the biggest problem. If 110 minutes of the movie, you talk about NH and SS for 100 minutes due to a genjutsu, how can you develop the NS for only 10 minutes at least? :/

[applesauceful]

NH is already looking bad. So much bs being done just to make it look believable 

 

Come on man. This is just too much of a conspiracy theory 

 

It is and it sounds ridiculous. But think back to when you started reading Naruto or even when you started reading part 2 of the manga, did you ever see things turning out like this? Like I said, just something that popped into my mind as a what if. The world is crazy... Kishi's proof of that. Nowadays anything is possible.

Edited by applesauceful, 25 November 2014 - 01:32 PM.

[六道仙人]

@chatte

yes, they told they showed the kiss.

[ramenanmitsu]

So they showed Naruto and Hinata actually kissing?
 
 

 
Now that I think better about it, I think what 700 was was just a mix to feint people and make it look as a genjutsu while it was not but it did point towards the possible genjutsu happening in the last, know what I mean?
Thus in the end 700 would remain invalid as it didn't even supposed to exist and 699.5 would remain its real end.

There is only one scenario I can think of that would make sense as having chapter 700 have a genjutsu. And that is as I posted before, half the chapter is genjutsu and half the chapter is reality. For example Shikamaru appears two times. One of his appearance could be genjutsu and one of them could be reality. (The one with the beard, and the one without it). Then we have Bolt and Himawari. In the movie sketches they were of same age. One child could be real, and the other could be fake because in the epilogue their age don't match. Kurenai's child in the epilogue and the movie is 100% different. One is real and the other isn't. Mei appears two times. One is fat but the other could be thin which we don't know because the second one doesn't show below her neck.

Anyways, this is the only plausible scenario I can come up with IF chapter 700 had a genjursu in it.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 25 November 2014 - 01:39 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

Now that I think better about it, I think what 700 was was just a mix to feint people and make it look as a genjutsu while it was not but it did point towards the possible genjutsu happening in the last, know what I mean?

Thus in the end 700 would remain invalid as it didn't even supposed to exist and 699.5 would remain its real end.

But then what about 699? Sakura is shown to still love Sasuke and from that forehead tap, Sasuke is shown to consider Sakura as close as Itachi considered him. Naruto is shown with Hinata. Not in one panel do we get Naruto and Sakura together.

 

I cannot believe Kishi completely ignored the strongest bond in the manga 

 

 

It is and it sounds ridiculous. But think back to when you started reading Naruto or even when you started reading part 2 of the manga, did you ever see things turning out like this? 

 Well there was always a chance that NH/SS could become canon, just nowhere near as much as NS. I never thought the canonization would be written this badly because I believed, naively, that Kishi was a very good writer. I was wrong.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 25 November 2014 - 01:46 PM.

[applesauceful]

I cannot believe Kishi completely ignored the strongest bond in the manga 

 

 Well there was always a chance that NH/SS could become canon, just nowhere near as much as NS. I never thought the canonization would be written this badly because I thought Kishi was a better writer than this. I was wrong.

 

Naruto was the first anime I started watching and it was the first manga I started reading, for me, I was like: "yeah, there's no way this isn't going to be NS". As things developed and we got to the Pein Arc and Hinata made her confession, I was like "Hmm?" but then I saw the Sakura hug and I was like: "yeah, there's no way this isn't going to be NS". Later, I did think NH had just an ounce of a chance but I was like: "Nah, not enough development. Don't know how he'd pull it off, especially with how strong the NS bond is."

 

After everything, the disappointment, the asspulls. I took a step back and I'm like, let's look at this differently. My consipracy theory :) may sound ludicruous but hey, Richard Castle comes up with elaborate theories that are so crazy, but the fact that they're "so out of the box" usually helps broaden the ways the detectives look at the cases and leading them to the killer and their motives. :)

 

Also thought this might bring some smiles. This is from Suits S04E04 (if you can check it out) it's a conversation between Louis and Harvey.

 

Harvey & Louis

 

Harvey: We'll get Mike another way.

 

Louis: Oh goddamn right we're going to get him. I'm gonna get that son of a b**** if it's the last thing I do.

 

Harvey: What are you talking about?

 

Louis: He used the Sheila news to get into my head Harvey.

 

Harvey: Used the news? Or gave you the news?

 

Louis: What difference does it make?

 

Harvey: "What difference does it make?" It makes all the difference! Like on the one hand I feel for you and on the other you're the world's biggest idiot!

 

Louis: Look at my computer! I've been staring at it for three hours it's real!

 

Harvey: I don't believe it.

 

Louis: Yeah that adonis on that yacht is Sheila's fiancée.

 

Harvey: That adonis is a photoshopped picture of Lorenzo Lamas from 1998!

 

Louis: Who the Hell is Lorenzo Lamas?

 

Harvey:  Well I can tell you who he isn't! He isn't Sheila's fiancée.

 

*Louis leans in to take a look at the laptop screen*

 

*Louis smiles, goes in to hug Harvey*

 

Louis: Oh thank god!

 

*Harvey pushes him away*

 

Harvey: Are you even listening!? It was bad enough that Nigel rattled you with your unread cat-letters and now you're letting Mike do this!?

 

Louis: Harvey please---

 

Harvey: Shut the hell up! Look, I tried to warn you and you stood there with your stupid leg up in the air telling me that the student was no match for the master. And all it took was one doctored picture for you to s*** the bed!

 

Louis: I didn't mean to---

 

*Harvey slams laptop screen close*

 

Harvey: Shut the hell up!

 

Moral of the story: Don't believe everything you hear or see.

 

Edited by applesauceful, 25 November 2014 - 02:14 PM.

[Chatte]

Oh my God, I know how he's playing it... This is heavy, if it's like that, lol. I just replied to someone with a certain saying that it made me remind the actual statement from me to that person was made in the manga. Kishi you kittening genius! - in case it's like that, ofc.

[ns.Believe.It]

 

Naruto was the first anime I started watching and it was the first manga I started reading, for me, I was like: "yeah, there's no way this isn't going to be NS". As things developed and we got to the Pein Arc and Hinata made her confession, I was like "Hmm?" but then I saw the Sakura hug and I was like: "yeah, there's no way this isn't going to be NS". Later, I did think NH had just an ounce of a chance but I was like: "Nah, not enough development. Don't know how he'd pull it off, especially with how strong the NS bond is."

I thought NS was obvious since chapter 3. Naruto shown to say the exact words Sakura wanted to hear so badly..?

 

It was as if they were connected, as if they were meant to end up together. It was so obvious! There were some NH/SS hints along the way but Nothing in the 695 chapters that followed this moment made me seriously doubt the chances of NS. In fact my confidence in NS gradually increased throughout. 

 

Then out of nowhere we see Salad, Bolt and Ugly girl in the end 

[milan kyuubi]

Was this already posted?

 

http://meganezaru.tu...-a-japanese-fan

 

Oh my God, I know how he's playing it... This is heavy, if it's like that, lol. I just replied to someone with a certain saying that it made me remind the actual statement from me to that person was made in the manga. Kishi you kittening genius! - in case it's like that, ofc.

 

Chatte you are confusing us!

[Advaith]

I thought NS was obvious since chapter 3. Naruto shown to say the exact words Sakura wanted to hear so badly..?

 

It was as if they were connected, as if they were meant to end up together. It was so obvious! There were some NH/SS hints along the way but Nothing in the 695 chapters that followed this moment made me seriously doubt the chances of NS. In fact my confidence in NS gradually increased throughout. 

 

Then out of nowhere we see Salad, Bolt and Ugly girl in the end 

This is one of the disasters  what happens if u end up with the wrong girl.Ur kids will be ugly and will have no resemblance to u.

Edited by Advaith, 25 November 2014 - 02:10 PM.