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#7801 Superman333

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:04 PM

In retaliation to that , the common response will be '' Do you need a reason to love someone ? '' yet Sakura herself states .. how much 10 reasons  ? Why she started loving Naruto ...

I guess she loves Sasuke , because ... he is handsome, cool , , , , , , , ,.......................... derp ... forehead scene ? Meh. She never states them though , if asked she has no answer , we don't know too why she loves him, we just know she does ..

In her case she needs a good reason , because of what i am hearing , if i point to 635 for example , '' its good for Sakura not to trust Sasuke right know, because he can't be trusted '' , that just contradicting common sense ..

 

well yuo can't love somebody without truly knowing them, to love somebody they have to make you happy , have things in common etc. 

 

I bet it was the forehead scene and if thats the case then she loves Naruto . But she has also doubted her feelings for Sasuke alot of times too but never really doubted anything for Naruto as it grew she was just confused as to sometimes what she is feeling for him . 

 

And yeah that don't make any sense at all . 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

Guys  i hate to says this but at 645 i think we lost the MinaKushi parallel

 

somebody can point me wrong?

HOW .?


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

 

Yeah the day when NaruSaku will celebrate and S**** on SS AND NH FACES (dang it lost my mind there sry :sweatdrop: )

 

Well i think we lost it when Minato was comparing naruto to kushina?

but the thing is Naruto has been compared to Kushina before .... that doesn't take away the fact that Sakura was still compared to Kushina . And they are his parents after all its only natural that Minato sees some qualites of Kushina in Naruto . 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

 
Yeah the day when NaruSaku will celebrate and S**** on SS AND NH FACES (dang it lost my mind there sry :sweatdrop: )
 
Well i think we lost it when Minato was comparing naruto to kushina?


Naruto was compared to minato endless times also? I'm pretty sure genetics and DNA come into play but is it wrong for Naruto to be like both his parents? Kushina did not tell Naruto to "copy me and minato's relationship". She said "find someone like your mother" (sakura). It is definitely more than normal for naruto to be like both his parents.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:09 PM

Naruto has been paralleled to Kushina by Tsunade, Jiraiya and by Naruto himself before, I don't understand what's different now.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

Guys  i hate to says this but at 645 i think we lost the MinaKushi parallel
 
somebody can point me wrong?

Certainly. You're wrong.

I'm kidding but you're not getting the right point. I don't want to get into too much details but just know this, Naruto is a child of Minato/Kushina, so it's given and not only that but Naruto is filling in the spot since Kushina is dead. Naruto got her traits of never back down, which is actually connected to DB3 of Kushina, surprisingly. So it's a nostalgic feel.

That all said it doesn't hurt parallel at all. The only way you can is to have him rethinking of what he said and pretty much cancel out Sakura/Kushina, but they are similar. As for Naruto/Kushina, it's the mood/atmosphere that made him think this. Let's not forget the main important factor: Kushina's advice. Her advice still stands and THAT can't be diminished at all. Maybe if she said, "Find someone like me, unless you're me yourself," then fine, but even then, that's a stretch.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

I totally agree , they deserve a NS ending not just their face , but throat too ..

Some say Sakura knows Sasuke more than Karin ..  Others , well , Naruto will fix the huuyga clan by marring hinata and Sakura uchiha clan ... x_x

How do we lost MK ? Kushina=Sakura -> end pairing ..

 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:16 PM

That moment where haters are going to hit hard won't be the ending, rather much sooner than ever. SS ends, it's over. The parallel, depends on how it works, it's over. Sakura acknowledges her feelings for Naruto, it's over. These can happen in this arc, let alone this battle, so they are only asking for time bomb.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:17 PM

That moment where haters are going to hit hard won't be the ending, rather much sooner than ever. SS ends, it's over. The parallel, depends on how it works, it's over. Sakura acknowledges her feelings for Naruto, it's over. These can happen in this arc, let alone this battle, so they are only asking for time bomb.

Damn I want them to happen one by one next after next just so it can keep hitting them hard without remorse . 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

Damn I want them to happen one by one next after next just so it can keep hitting them hard without remorse . 

I have explained many times on why 540 and 635 happened the way it did. Because I do believe this is the end of the road.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:23 PM

That moment where haters are going to hit hard won't be the ending, rather much sooner than ever. SS ends, it's over. The parallel, depends on how it works, it's over. Sakura acknowledges her feelings for Naruto, it's over. These can happen in this arc, let alone this battle, so they are only asking for time bomb.

I guess its like an hour glass , when the last grain (as the examples you gave) falls , then , well , lets welcome chaos ..


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:25 PM

I have explained many times on why 540 and 635 happened the way it did. Because I do believe this is the end of the road.

and I don't want Kishi to do it subliminally or in hints liek he always does . I want Kishi to be blunt and show it in a straight forward manner so they can't have any room to interpret it in a different way than what it is . 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:27 PM

You guys forgot fanfictions will still exist XD


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:32 PM

and I don't want Kishi to do it subliminally or in hints liek he always does . I want Kishi to be blunt and show it in a straight forward manner so they can't have any room to interpret it in a different way than what it is . 

What I mean is that those two chapters are buildup for Sakura to end SS and it really looks that way because Sasuke is on the verge of different path again, thanks to Naruto. So it's no happy moment for Sasuke.

You guys forgot fanfictions will still exist XD

It's ok. I respect that. I don't like when they tried to manipulate the fact of the manga. That's taboo.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:35 PM

What I mean is that those two chapters are buildup for Sakura to end SS and it really looks that way because Sasuke is on the verge of different path again, thanks to Naruto. So it's no happy moment for Sasuke.

It's ok. I respect that. I don't like when they tried to manipulate the fact of the manga. That's taboo.

i already know bra . I just want Kishi to hurry and just end SS already lols . But I also want it to happen smoothly so I guess Kishi will do it when he feel its right . 


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:36 PM

I have explained many times on why 540 and 635 happened the way it did. Because I do believe this is the end of the road.

540 didn't just show Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, Kishi for some reason included her negative opinion of him too. He could've exluded the "good guy" part and just confirmed her love. Then you have 631, her not trusting him at all and he just showed up without doing anything suspiscious. Don't even get me started on 635.

 

How he chooses to represent SS, must be terrible being a fan of the pairing nowadays.. :lmao:


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:38 PM

540 didn't just show Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, Kishi for some reason included her negative opinion of him too. He could've exluded the "good guy" part and just confirmed her love. Then you have 631, her not trusting him at all and he just showed up without doing anything suspiscious. Don't even get me started on 635.

 

How he chooses to represent SS, must be terrible being a fan of the pairing nowadays.. :lmao:

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:45 PM

You guys forgot fanfictions will still exist XD

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:45 PM

540 didn't just show Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, Kishi for some reason included her negative opinion of him too. He could've exluded the "good guy" part and just confirmed her love. Then you have 631, her not trusting him at all and he just showed up without doing anything suspiscious. Don't even get me started on 635.

 

How he chooses to represent SS, must be terrible being a fan of the pairing nowadays.. :lmao:

Hm, i agree :D , but some will not , for example some tend to cling to 632 , he saved her! So he loves her... 644.... yeah , people read selectively the manga ,that's all .^_^


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:57 PM

Guys  i hate to says this but at 645 i think we lost the MinaKushi parallel

 

somebody can point me wrong?

 

Naruto and Kushina are similar, their similarities have been noted by Tsunade, and by Naruto and Kushina themselves, but similarities between characters are NOT the same as parallels.  Also, let's not ignore a few things, Naruto and Sakura are extremely similar personality-wise, and Minato has been shown to be extremely silly and flashy, just like Naruto and Kushina.  All four of these characters are similar, so now the MK-HN parallel that some fans have invented is even more absurd (it was always absurd, because parallels that fans create are invalid, the only parallels that matter are those that Kishimoto creates, emphasizes, and addresses).  Kishimoto uses parallelism as a tool to forshadow certain events to the audience, in fact most of the audience states parallels incorrectly.  All the parallels are based off of team 7, team 7 doesn't parallel team Sarutobi, rather team Sarutobi parallels team 7.  In the same way, NS doesn't parallel MK, but MK parallels NS.

 

I'm lazy, and I know I've posted this in here many times, but I don't want to re-type that post over again, so if you are interested as to why NS will never lose the MK parallel, read this (I know I've spammed that a lot, I apologize, I'm just way to lazy to type all that up over and over and over again).  That's not to say that NS will undoubtadly become canon, after all Kishi could troll us all and have the Shinobi World destroyed by an asteroid if he wanted to, but MK parallels NS.  That's it, end of story, confirmed.  Anyone who tries to claim otherwise doesn't understand how parallelism works as a literary tool (for instance, they simply don't understand the difference between the parallels Kishi has inserted into his story vs. the parallels they try to find because they're desperate), is afraid because of the confirmed parallel and is grasping, or in some cases (like in the insistence that the NS-MK parallel is invalid, and that NH parallele KM, and the argument that that's even a valid claim in any way, shape or form) it could be a sign that one might need to (re)take a MS literature class (not very surprising, sadly the average reading level in the US is about 7th Grade...sigh).

 

 

540 didn't just show Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke, Kishi for some reason included her negative opinion of him too. He could've exluded the "good guy" part and just confirmed her love. Then you have 631, her not trusting him at all and he just showed up without doing anything suspiscious. Don't even get me started on 635.

 

How he chooses to represent SS, must be terrible being a fan of the pairing nowadays.. :lmao:

 

It's always pointed out that SS in part 2 was terrible, but SS in part 1 was not much better.  Sakura objectified him, she wasn't OK with being his friendship, Sakura felt that she had to be someone else to impress him (which I find hilarious because the real Sakura probably would have had a better chance with him), Sakura had a fundemental misunderstanding of him, and Sasuke was continuously rude to her, belittled her (even when she wasn't objectifying him).  There were some OK/good moments between them, like when Sasuke helped her feel better right before the chuunin exams, when Sakura forgot her crush for him and berated him, but overall even in part 1 the potential relationship of SS was written as if it would be an unhealthy one.


Edited by morgaine4, 08 September 2013 - 10:17 PM.





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