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[Question22]

One NH fan told me that our couple is selfish lol

 

Other one says Naruto supports SasuSaku

 

the third one says Hinata is like Kushina (o.o)

 

My head is going to explode really

Edited by Question22, 08 September 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[Psychox]

^That all above said is true , which makes me think, why the frig when Sai/Yamato/Jiraiya or who ever you wish makes a statement about NS , its false and untrue ?

B-but if it supports the opposite sections , its 100% accurate , its .... yeah ..

Edited by Psychox, 08 September 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

One NH fan told me that our couple is selfish lol
 
Other one says Naruto supports SasuSaku
 
the third one says Hinata is like Kushina (o.o)

1) Selfish? Try selfless.

2) Naruto supports Sakura and her happiness. If he was supporting SS, he wouldn't feel hurt. Also, his reason to Sai says it all.

3) 631

[Question22]

^Thats why i said but they started raging on me :(

 

 

When i argue  with a NH fan the stubbornes the ignorance it makes my head explode

Edited by Question22, 08 September 2013 - 05:06 PM.

[Branden]

One NH fan told me that our couple is selfish lol

 

Other one says Naruto supports SasuSaku

 

the third one says Hinata is like Kushina (o.o)

 

My head is going to explode really

I suggest you just ignore people like that. If you find an interesting argument or a really convincing one let us know. Just shooting down easy to counter arguments gets boring after a while.

[Psychox]

One NH fan told me that our couple is selfish lol

 

Other one says Naruto supports SasuSaku

 

the third one says Hinata is like Kushina (o.o)

 

My head is going to explode really

Huh? What?

What is his/hers arguments ?

Facts ? Statements ?

Naruto supports Sakura's Happiness not SS, that didn't stop him from calling her out on dates or peeping at her at the bath, he wants to confess ,631.

631.

Edited by Psychox, 08 September 2013 - 05:20 PM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

So, I search online, and found out that most people said Hinata has the same personalities as Kushina, which irritates me of course... I mean, if Naruto pissed Hinata off, Hinata won't slap him or hit him... She is very calm (how did that girl manages to do that?).. If Naruto pissed Kushina off, Kushina will definitely teach Naruto some lessons... But she will then regret it... Like Sakura.. But somehow, people didn't see that... They'll just say, "Sakura is a total hot temper... Different than Kushina.." That was not true! After Sakura punches Naruto or teach him a lesson she will calm down... And, when people said Kushina has a soft smile like Hinata, I become more irritated... Sakura also has a soft smile.. But they didn't know it, because technically, they dislike Sakura... Honestly, I am thinking that NaruHina fans are just trying to find matches between Hinata and Kushina.. This is what I think.. But idk what you guys will say xD... Please reply me though.. Why did people think that Hinata has the same personalities like Kushina? 

 

The truth is there's really not  enough info to claim this comparison.  Hinata hasn't had much screen time, and what we have seen doesn't match Kushina at all.  If anything Hinata is complete opposite of Kushina.  A person can try to make small comparisons based on what is known like tender smiles, but the fact is those kind of comparisons are irrelevant because they are not mentioned in the story.  Pus, the line by Kushina itself was more of a hint toward the readers.  Personality is just one factor.  The whole parallel counts including Kushina's backstory and her changing perception of Minato.  Adding these two, Hinata doesn't fit at all.  She wasn't bullied (can't count that filler in episode 166), she doesn't have a physical attribute she hates about herself, and most importantly her perception or Naruto has always been constant.  It's selective information from the other fandoms.  It's like an art to them.

 

Alright, now let me try to change the subject.  When do you guys think the Gokage will arrive, and is a meeting between Tsunade and Sakura imminent?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I disagree that she tried to kill Sasuke because she loves him.

 

Killing Sasuke was plan B, wasn't it? She resorted to it because she couldn't convince Naruto. Besides..I find it funny while we are so wrong listening to our third parties(who make assumptions while Naruto and/or Sakura are there listening, practically confirming them), the only manga evidence that supports this argument is what Sai said.

 

Naruto doesn't understand why Sakura is going to kill Sasuke. Sai tries to make sense of it, and takes a wild guess. Yes, it was a wild guess, because did not he speak with Sakura about it or her love for Sasuke, she was not even there to confirm/disconfirm it. That, and the fact that it contradicts with another thing he said, "She was only thinking of you(Naruto)", makes me think this is a much weaker statement than any of our thirdparties.

 

I can't believe how this one sentence of Sai is so overused, but anything he says about NS is false and ignorant.

Yes, He says that he didnt understand but he did that to hide from Naruto why she really wanted to kill him, imagine if Sai told Naruto off "Naruto, Sakura is going to kill Sasuke because she now knows you love her" or some thing similar, he did his wild guess which he even admitted during his talk, she went to kill Sasuke because of Naruto on which she tells to herself on her flashback "I cant falter" but could not kill him because of her love for Sasuke which is once again on the flashback.

[sushi.]

We've beat this to death before, I remember my response to that Hinata=Kushina video. So I'll keep it short. Apparently Hinata is like Kushina because she is willing to die for him, just like Kushina. Loving Naruto does not make Hinata resemble Kushina. Apparently Hinata was put in the same bose as Naruto's parents in 615, but no - Neji was. Kurama compared Neji's death to Minato and Kushina's. Their sacrifices was not about love, it was about how many people will die while Naruto makes his road to his destiny as the child of prophecy(remember the panel of all the people who died). That sounds bad..but it is what it is.

 

No wonder we're getting empty of topics, the romance is currently standing still(I don't think it will for long though), and we never encounter any new arguments.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm starting to think this place will get running in the next volume.

[Inferno180]

When people choose to ignore the manga, like those outright just saying Sakura is selfish, cares nothing for Naruto, or that Sakura=Kushina is a lie or wrong, whatever the case if they say there is stuff against NS, its just those type of fans ignoring easy evidence and potential for NS and just going by the cause we said so argument if anything. Hey if 12 year olds can see this stuff easily but many others cannot, no point in arguing with them. Middle schoolers can understand this stuff clearly so why do the older fans need to make such an issue? Hey if people don't think Sakura can turn from Sasuke, Naruto still loves Sakura given how he considered her his girlfriend, and now the Kushina-Sakura stuff 631 and early interaction/background, then that's their problem. What is it our fault we were right for years over an event like 631 that sent the NH fandom into a massive metldown and divided their views on what naruto's parents are and that he still loves Sakura? Hey Kishi writes the stuff, he could have left it out. I find it insane how that morning on 631, they got angry because we knew this stuff for years, they were angry at Naruto, Minato, and Kishi, even for some reason some people found more rage at Sakura even though she was just healing Naruto, this is how bad its become. Sorry we predicted this stuff for years and NH being so mighty and assured was wrong and blamed Kishi saying he ruined his writing yet the story is actually allowing and set up for what they hate. Hey Kishi used Naruto with Sakura a lot more than Hinata, with more NS stuff than Hinata even appears in the manga, with stuff like 631 and 635 recently, and the constant development moreso, well apparently its a suprise to some that NS can happen despite the fact that the plot is focused highly in part on Naruto and Sakuras relation as friends and teammates and the struggle of the impact Sasuke has had, its easier to see how Naruto ties into the events with Sasuke, but not as easily for Sakura, as Sakura is only effected by Sasuke, not impacting him. Sakura's dynamics between her own effects by Sasuke and here back and forth with Naruto is what gives her the position as a main character this late in the story to have a role involved with Naruto's actions and goals. Sakura is tied to Naruto and vice versa, they are both highly collateral characters on each other yet fans still somehow perceive hinata as bigger here when she isn't  at all. Its not all about love, for Naruto and Sakura its also the goals they had in helping each other, anyone whos read the manga knows one event after another, there have been collateral impacts and effects on the other, some good and some bad, thats development, changing outlooks, growing together by trials, etc. Naruto and Sakura's relationship is one of the biggest, even with someone like Sai to have to get involved, its one of the biggest in the manga shown constantly like Naruto's for Sasuke or his parents, Sasuke's with Itachi, or the constant master-student bond. NS isn't shown as much as the familial love which proves to be the most dominant if anything NS its still the most constant friendship-something more potential one. This isn't even starting with the whole concept of how the Sasuke side for Sakura has changed too, I mean she loved him yeah but look how negative its become, killing attempts and now the first real shift was in 635 not trusting him. Thats just character development. Can people honestly just think of this statement, seriously just think of it, "Sakura will always love Sasuke" seriously, can anyone even imagine just how well, dumb that sounds? Think about the events of the manga, how it was Sasuke's evil actions that impacted many characters over the series, for Sakura it was also in part from Naruto who drove her to get better, from Sasuke though, she was impacted the same way Naruto was at first, Naruto saw him as his best friend like a brother, Sakura loved him. Naruto and Sakura have a shared pain over Sasuke's defection. Now fast forward and consider all the stuff that happened with Sakura learning how Sasuke became a criminal, tried to kill her, and eventually will lead to the potential killing Naruto. We can confirm obviously that Sakura likes Naruto a lot as a very close friend. So after all these events, with 635 and her starting to not trust Sasuke, if she still loved Sasuke in the end, doesn't that make the past events of her seeing what he became and what he has done all moot and worthless? All like it was just a tough time in their relationship? Rather think of it like this: what was the point of all that? Never changing? Guess this would mean Naruto should not have changed, Hinata remains shy, Sasuke always obsessed with vengence, etc. The funny thing about Naruto's character is his willpower is his greatest strength and it changes people, its effected almost every major character in the series yet ironically not those 2 who Naruto considers closest, his first 2 friends Sasuke and yes Sakura. Sasuke still doesn't acknowledge him and Sakura obviously has a close relation with him but he still hopes she will love him. Now again, do we want to see that giant middle finger thrown right at Naruto so Sasuke just succeeds again in places without effort? I don't I want Naruto to succeed in the areas towards both Sasuke and Sakura. Its freaking character development, people change, Naruto has changed too but heck for NS, when a manga shows a decent focus on a romance subplot like this, well chances are when NS has been seen the most, its going to lead somewhere especially when others like NH are hardly touched upon and SS is just been one landslide event downhill the whole time. What are peple honestly expecting? Sakura to remain static? Seriously if any 12 year old can tell people change and what can be coming, I don't know why people utter stuff like this. Sakura changed, Naruto changed but he still loves her, especially considering the manga hasn't touched upon the NH stuff for so long especially with 631 around now, what are we to say? He just suddenly gave up on her despite the fact he considers Sakura his girlfriend? This is why its not worth debating with some fans if they have nothing to back it up because their pairing (SS or NH) is lagging so much) rather its not evidence to support their pairing most of the time anymore, its either outright bashing or discrediting anything NS related, in other words they take NS stuff and try to turn sense on it to bring it down because they have no evidence to bring their own up. The only material they get is ironically NS themselves. Most arguments are discredit now rather than evidence to boost theirs.

[Question22]

New arguments will raise when there will be a new romance possibility moments

 

if they say narusaku cant happen that means they ignored the whole series

 

My pov of 615

Noooooooooo naruto wtf man?

 

631

 

Hahahahha!

 

Naruto first holded Hinata's hand and then admited Sakura is hes girlfriend

 

mahahaha

 

Kishi is trolling NH very good

 

Btw i heard an argument that the hand holding was Chakra transfer is this true?

Edited by Question22, 08 September 2013 - 08:24 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

New arguments will raise when there will be a new romance possibility moments
 
if they say narusaku cant happen that means they ignored the whole series
 
My pov of 615
Noooooooooo naruto wtf man?
 
631
 
Hahahahha!
 
Naruto first holded Hinata's hand and then admited Sakura is hes girlfriend
 
mahahaha
 
Kishi is trolling NH very good
 
Btw i heard an argument that the hand holding was Chakra transfer is this true?

Yes. And symbolic of equality and that's all. The last part is not intentional from Naruto.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 08 September 2013 - 08:28 PM.

[Superman333]

One NH fan told me that our couple is selfish lol

 

Other one says Naruto supports SasuSaku

 

the third one says Hinata is like Kushina (o.o)

 

My head is going to explode really

1 . Selfless is the perfect word for it . 

 

2 . Naruto supports Sakura's happiness not SasuSaku .

 

3 . Chapter 631 says it all . 

[Psychox]

When people choose to ignore the manga, like those outright just saying Sakura is selfish, cares nothing for Naruto, or that Sakura=Kushina is a lie or wrong, whatever the case if they say there is stuff against NS, its just those type of fans ignoring easy evidence and potential for NS and just going by the cause we said so argument if anything. Hey if 12 year olds can see this stuff easily but many others cannot, no point in arguing with them. Middle schoolers can understand this stuff clearly so why do the older fans need to make such an issue? Hey if people don't think Sakura can turn from Sasuke, Naruto still loves Sakura given how he considered her his girlfriend, and now the Kushina-Sakura stuff 631 and early interaction/background, then that's their problem. What is it our fault we were right for years over an event like 631 that sent the NH fandom into a massive metldown and divided their views on what naruto's parents are and that he still loves Sakura? Hey Kishi writes the stuff, he could have left it out. I find it insane how that morning on 631, they got angry because we knew this stuff for years, they were angry at Naruto, Minato, and Kishi, even for some reason some people found more rage at Sakura even though she was just healing Naruto, this is how bad its become. Sorry we predicted this stuff for years and NH being so mighty and assured was wrong and blamed Kishi saying he ruined his writing yet the story is actually allowing and set up for what they hate. Hey Kishi used Naruto with Sakura a lot more than Hinata, with more NS stuff than Hinata even appears in the manga, with stuff like 631 and 635 recently, and the constant development moreso, well apparently its a suprise to some that NS can happen despite the fact that the plot is focused highly in part on Naruto and Sakuras relation as friends and teammates and the struggle of the impact Sasuke has had, its easier to see how Naruto ties into the events with Sasuke, but not as easily for Sakura, as Sakura is only effected by Sasuke, not impacting him. Sakura's dynamics between her own effects by Sasuke and here back and forth with Naruto is what gives her the position as a main character this late in the story to have a role involved with Naruto's actions and goals. Sakura is tied to Naruto and vice versa, they are both highly collateral characters on each other yet fans still somehow perceive hinata as bigger here when she isn't  at all. Its not all about love, for Naruto and Sakura its also the goals they had in helping each other, anyone whos read the manga knows one event after another, there have been collateral impacts and effects on the other, some good and some bad, thats development, changing outlooks, growing together by trials, etc. Naruto and Sakura's relationship is one of the biggest, even with someone like Sai to have to get involved, its one of the biggest in the manga shown constantly like Naruto's for Sasuke or his parents, Sasuke's with Itachi, or the constant master-student bond. NS isn't shown as much as the familial love which proves to be the most dominant if anything NS its still the most constant friendship-something more potential one. This isn't even starting with the whole concept of how the Sasuke side for Sakura has changed too, I mean she loved him yeah but look how negative its become, killing attempts and now the first real shift was in 635 not trusting him. Thats just character development. Can people honestly just think of this statement, seriously just think of it, "Sakura will always love Sasuke" seriously, can anyone even imagine just how well, dumb that sounds? Think about the events of the manga, how it was Sasuke's evil actions that impacted many characters over the series, for Sakura it was also in part from Naruto who drove her to get better, from Sasuke though, she was impacted the same way Naruto was at first, Naruto saw him as his best friend like a brother, Sakura loved him. Naruto and Sakura have a shared pain over Sasuke's defection. Now fast forward and consider all the stuff that happened with Sakura learning how Sasuke became a criminal, tried to kill her, and eventually will lead to the potential killing Naruto. We can confirm obviously that Sakura likes Naruto a lot as a very close friend. So after all these events, with 635 and her starting to not trust Sasuke, if she still loved Sasuke in the end, doesn't that make the past events of her seeing what he became and what he has done all moot and worthless? All like it was just a tough time in their relationship? Rather think of it like this: what was the point of all that? Never changing? Guess this would mean Naruto should not have changed, Hinata remains shy, Sasuke always obsessed with vengence, etc. The funny thing about Naruto's character is his willpower is his greatest strength and it changes people, its effected almost every major character in the series yet ironically not those 2 who Naruto considers closest, his first 2 friends Sasuke and yes Sakura. Sasuke still doesn't acknowledge him and Sakura obviously has a close relation with him but he still hopes she will love him. Now again, do we want to see that giant middle finger thrown right at Naruto so Sasuke just succeeds again in places without effort? I don't I want Naruto to succeed in the areas towards both Sasuke and Sakura. Its freaking character development, people change, Naruto has changed too but heck for NS, when a manga shows a decent focus on a romance subplot like this, well chances are when NS has been seen the most, its going to lead somewhere especially when others like NH are hardly touched upon and SS is just been one landslide event downhill the whole time. What are peple honestly expecting? Sakura to remain static? Seriously if any 12 year old can tell people change and what can be coming, I don't know why people utter stuff like this. Sakura changed, Naruto changed but he still loves her, especially considering the manga hasn't touched upon the NH stuff for so long especially with 631 around now, what are we to say? He just suddenly gave up on her despite the fact he considers Sakura his girlfriend? This is why its not worth debating with some fans if they have nothing to back it up because their pairing (SS or NH) is lagging so much) rather its not evidence to support their pairing most of the time anymore, its either outright bashing or discrediting anything NS related, in other words they take NS stuff and try to turn sense on it to bring it down because they have no evidence to bring their own up. The only material they get is ironically NS themselves. Most arguments are discredit now rather than evidence to boost theirs.

IF some of them read your post which i like and approve , 96,99 % of them will ask , why cant Naruto change , flip from Sakura and look a new light to Hinata ? IF you point to parallels they are paralols (all ns has is paralols ) , if you give a reasonable explanation you get shunned . Parallels are meaningless if they point at NS.


Why Sakura CANT stop loving Sasuke?  These are the arguments they prompt :

-She loves him since she was little

-She filled his lonely ...

- Because she loves him unconditionally same goes for Hinata to Naruto

-Sakura is needed for Uchiha clan revival
 

-Sakura would be a thor(ya know what i mean ^^ ) for changing her mind
 

-Sasuke would feel betrayed

 

-Sakura’s love is the only thing that can heal Sasuke’s heart

 

-Angst/suffering makes her love more magical and worthwhile.
 

Anyone wanna debate to that ?

 

Edited by Psychox, 08 September 2013 - 08:50 PM.

[Superman333]

IF some of them read your post which i like and approve , 96,99 % of them will ask , why cant Naruto change , flip from Sakura and look a new light to Hinata ? IF you point to parallels they are paralols (all ns has is paralols ) , if you give a reasonable explanation you get shunned . Parallels are meaningless if they point at NS.


Why Sakura CANT stop loving Sasuke?  These are the arguments they prompt :

-She loves him since she was little

-She filled his lonely ...

- Because she loves him unconditionally same goes for Hinata to Naruto

-Sakura is needed for Uchiha clan revival
 

-Sakura would be a thor(ya know what i mean ^^ ) for changing her mind
 

-Sasuke would feel betrayed

 

-Sakura’s love is the only thing that can heal Sasuke’s heart

 

-Angst/suffering makes her love more magical and worthwhile.
 

Anyone wanna debate to that ?

 

I won't even bother to piece those statements (even thought I can) up one by one because its clear that she never truly loved Sasuke anyways . What reasons has she stated to ever love Sasuke .?

 

How does she love him unconditonally when she can't accept him for who he turned out to be .? You love somebody unconditionally when you can love them for being a criminal or not . 

Edited by Superman333, 08 September 2013 - 08:55 PM.

[Psychox]

I won't even bother to piece those statements (even thought I can) up one by one because its clear that she never truly loved Sasuke anyways . What reasons has she stated to ever love Sasuke .?

In retaliation to that , the common response will be '' Do you need a reason to love someone ? '' yet Sakura herself states .. how much 10 reasons  ? Why she started loving Naruto ...

I guess she loves Sasuke , because ... he is handsome, cool , , , , , , , ,.......................... derp ... forehead scene ? Meh. She never states them though , if asked she has no answer , we don't know too why she loves him, we just know she does ..

In her case she needs a good reason , because of what i am hearing , if i point to 635 for example , '' its good for Sakura not to trust Sasuke right know, because he can't be trusted '' , that just contradicting common sense ..

 

[LadyGT]

Ugh... Those people just deserve a Narusaku ending in their face. I can't wait.


Sakura is needed for the Uchiha clan revival...ahah.

[sushi.]

Ugh... Those people just deserve a Narusaku ending in their face. I can't wait.


Sakura is needed for the Uchiha clan revival...ahah.

lol I can't wait either :v

[Question22]

Guys  i hate to says this but at 645 i think we lost the MinaKushi parallel

 

somebody can point me wrong?