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[Chatte]

Biden is not a socialist or a communist neither is the democratic party, at best they are social liberal 3rd way centrist party. Heck I don't think they are even a soft left social democratic party with how they vote on certain issues.

 

Plus I don't really see how the two parties in america can collapse with the electoral college still in play as America's voting system, making it impossible for 3rd party to take over 

 

Oh Blue, you haven't lived in communism, have you?

 

The tactics I'm seeing today worldwide are the same tactics I learned about in respects with communism from normal people and historians in our country.

 

America is slowly heading to that. And the world follows, sadly.

 

But the communism that is coming today isn't like the old one. It's a neo communism. A techno communism, and it's one far more dangerous than what we've seen until now.

 

Because it's not done with the help of politicians. But with the help of technology.

 

Politicians are just the straws puppets. The big players are the ones who hold the most technological power. Because they are the ones who can easily sway people into one direction or the other. Aka see Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc.

 

Nowadays you're not free to speak your mind because you're easily branded one way or the other. It doesn't matter if it's something that would actually help better a situation.

 

I don't usually talk about this aspect because I see people around me being too asleep to see past insignificant players such as whoever is president. They are just puppets.

 

There are others pulling the string and that can be seen from miles away.

 

I dare you to watch a show called Continuum (was on ABC studios sometime ago, maybe u can find it online, the irony is that it was cancelled, maybe cause it was telling too much truth), the documentary Social Dilemma from Netflix and read about China's social credit system.

 

Then think about all these at large. And understand where we're heading as a civilization.

 

Which is sadly not in a good place.

 

Communism is already getting back imo. But you guys don't feel it nor seen it because you haven't actually lived in it.

 

Neither have I per se, but I live in a post-communist country, I have been close to people who have and live in the country which still tries to overcome it. Even today when everybody says Romania is so modern... Modern are about 10% of the people living here. Max 15%.

 

The rest are still victims of it.

 

And don't get me started with the politicians.

 

Politics is the cancer of humanity. Until we won't find another system, one to serve the sanctity of life itself in all forms, we're bound to fail over and over and over again.

 

No matter what system we implement.

[Dalton.T.R]

And the question still remains, if leftist policies work so great, then why are cities Democrats have been in crontrol of for decades at this point crumbling kitten holes? LA, San Fran, Chicago, and Detroit just to name a few. All of them have had Democratic mayors and governors for decades now, yet they continue to get worse and worse as time goes on. Yet, somehow, the Republicans are the ones who get blamed. Pretty freaking pathetic, really. 

Edited by Dalton.T.R, 29 January 2021 - 03:05 AM.

[sushi.]

Dems are not leftists and big tech is peak capitalism. Politicians arent puppets, but allies to wall street. They are not under the influence of threats, but money. Are you seriously saying being banned from twitter is communism? If you think politics is humanitys cancer, you wont be able to find an ideology that doesnt exist today. Its all capitalism or communism and fusions of those.

And the blue and red team in the us have a 70% overlap, and these arent my words but those of a former, right wing corporatist president. But crime and poverty rate is muchmuch worse in red states. Alaska and some a chunk of the south are usually the worst.

I understood why people believed Trump in 2k16, but those that still do are borderline neofascists. The excuses expired years ago.

[BlueStarSaber]

For the minimum wage I'm just going to post these videos

 

 

Plus I don't see the American left turning america into a communist state, they are more after trying to get new deal similar to what FDR did back in the 30s and 40s

 

I don't have time to properly reply back, but I do want to point to this

https://drive.google...2uuxrNMBhX/view

https://www.mayorsforagi.org/

 

From what I have read of that google drive document Biden seems very critical of china.

Don't think I have heard that quote from Martian Luthor King before. I have heard of :You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism. There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism

 

Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.

 

 

“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world : My own Government, I can not be Silent.” https://kinginstitut.../beyond-vietnam

 

Which kinda tells me that he is a bit more radical for his time besides the civil rights movement

 

 

Oh Blue, you haven't lived in communism, have you?

 

The tactics I'm seeing today worldwide are the same tactics I learned about in respects with communism from normal people and historians in our country.

 

America is slowly heading to that. And the world follows, sadly.

 

But the communism that is coming today isn't like the old one. It's a neo communism. A techno communism, and it's one far more dangerous than what we've seen until now.

 

Because it's not done with the help of politicians. But with the help of technology.

 

Politicians are just the straws puppets. The big players are the ones who hold the most technological power. Because they are the ones who can easily sway people into one direction or the other. Aka see Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc.

 

Nowadays you're not free to speak your mind because you're easily branded one way or the other. It doesn't matter if it's something that would actually help better a situation.

 

I don't usually talk about this aspect because I see people around me being too asleep to see past insignificant players such as whoever is president. They are just puppets.

 

There are others pulling the string and that can be seen from miles away.

 

I dare you to watch a show called Continuum (was on ABC studios sometime ago, maybe u can find it online, the irony is that it was cancelled, maybe cause it was telling too much truth), the documentary Social Dilemma from Netflix and read about China's social credit system.

 

Then think about all these at large. And understand where we're heading as a civilization.

 

Which is sadly not in a good place.

 

Communism is already getting back imo. But you guys don't feel it nor seen it because you haven't actually lived in it.

 

Neither have I per se, but I live in a post-communist country, I have been close to people who have and live in the country which still tries to overcome it. Even today when everybody says Romania is so modern... Modern are about 10% of the people living here. Max 15%.

 

The rest are still victims of it.

 

And don't get me started with the politicians.

 

Politics is the cancer of humanity. Until we won't find another system, one to serve the sanctity of life itself in all forms, we're bound to fail over and over and over again.

 

No matter what system we implement.

 

No I live in a Post Thatcher Britain which is no way be anything related to communism, where my years in from primary to secondary were under New Labour 3rd way politics and post that was 9 years of tory austerity and now post brexit Britain so I'm unlikely to experience it anytime soon. I have never heard of the term neo communism or techno communism so I can't comment on this (I have heard of Neo Liberalism though), are you talking about this https://en.wikipedia.../Eurocommunism? Because I don't see how America the most capitalist Country in the world is going down that route regardless of which party is in charge.

 

And the question still remains, if leftist policies work so great, then why are cities Democrats have been in crontrol of for decades at this point crumbling kitten holes? LA, San Fran, Chicago, and Detroit just to name a few. All of them have had Democratic mayors and governors for decades now, yet they continue to get worse and worse as time goes on. Yet, somehow, the Republicans are the ones who get blamed. Pretty freaking pathetic, really. 

 

I can't comment on how well these mayors are doing or not, though from what I search up the current mayor of Detroit has an approval rating 68% the highest it's ever been for a mayor there.

Though as for the they keep voting democrats in is probably the same reasons south states keep voting Republicans, tribalism. They will vote the the politician regardless of how good or bad they are as long as they are from the party they support, as they see the other side as worse

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 29 January 2021 - 08:55 PM.

[BlueStarSaber]

This might cause a heated debate or no one will care. The results of the Peru election have finally been declared for Pedro Castillo, the left wing canadite who was a school teacher and described as economicly left wing and socialist (far left if your a critic or some news outlets) but is also socially conservative for his views on LGBT

He won marginally against Keiko Fujimori the right wing candidate, who was is the daughter of former President Alberto Fujimori who is regarded as a dictator and severing 25 years in jail for han rights abuse. She is the reason the result was delayed due to calling fraud at the results.

Regardless if you like or dislike the result dependingon your politics, Castilo's win has been described as a victory against the Peru Elite by some. Here is an article from the BBC explaining the election result https://www.google.c...ca-57897402.amp

Also in unrelated news I meant to post after the 1st of July, in the UK the Batley and Spen by election Kim Leadbeater the Labour Canidate won the and held the seat for Labour. This seat is significant due to it being the seat of former MP Jo Cox was was murdered during the EU referendum by a far right terrorist and Kim Leadbeater is her sister.

Full explanation of this by election can be shown in the video here, which has been the chaotic/hostail by election in recent UK history due to candidates like George Gallowayand local and internationalissues effecting the community.

https://youtu.be/g0mSrW0hScQ

[BlueStarSaber]

Looks like Canda is getting a snap election

https://www.reuters....ces-2021-08-12/

[BlueStarSaber]

I will have posted 4 times in a row here now, which I know is kinda against the rules when it comes to the threads. Though I did see talk of Afghanistan in one of the threads so I figured I post this video briefly explaining the history of Afghanistan invasions and why they always fail in the end.

https://youtu.be/Ab9zK8yT4_Y

[BlueStarSaber]

For those who maybe interested while everyone was enjoying Halloween yesterday, Japan was having an election. The Liberal Democratic Party of Japan or LDP have won again, which is no surprise for anyone who has basic knowledge of Japanese politics. Though they have lost a few seats, but managed to keep a majority despite some polls saying they would lose it due to their poor handling of covid and the Olympics and would have to rely one of the other right wing parties.

Meanwhile the Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan and other left wing parties in Japan have lost a few seats, while the right wing party founded in 2015 Ishin gained a 30 seats to become the 3rd largest. From the looks of things Japan will continue to remain a 1 Party dominant country and we are unlikely to get a 2009 election or even 1993 result anytime soon.

Here are the full results https://mobile.twitt...04q70S0GIQ&s=19

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 01 November 2021 - 07:28 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Former prime minster of Japan Shinzo Abe was assassinated*, from what I understand longest serving prime minster, and the guy that was using anime to tell Japanese men to have sex. His party wins a super majority in a primaries.

 

The mangaka Ken Akamatsu was one of those winners. His stated goal is to protect their media from foreign censorship.

 

One of the party's goals is to remove the article 9 of their constitution that prevents them from having a military. To do that they need a super majority.

 

*The assassin was some former member of the JDF in the 2000's his wife and child left him due to some church he killed Abe because he felt Ave supported that church or something.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 July 2022 - 07:20 AM.

[BlueStarSaber]

They are not going to remove article 9, it's not popular with the public, which has prevented numerous cases of the ldp trying to do.

[BlueStarSaber]

I guess it depends on how you get your news and information. Polls tend to not be very reliable since the people making the polls tend to target people who align with their ideals. If you poll people in the city you're going to have very different result than if you polled people in small rural towns. But from what I've seen, wokeness is only in the cities. You might catch glimpses of it in small rural areas, but it's not shoved down our throats. 
 
BUT the sources I watch show the left is split down the middle with wokeness. 50% approve of it, while the other 50% disapprove of it. Whereas the right is united and dislikes it altogether.

I'm going to answer this here, while yes you might have a more spiltbon the left on what level of political correctness and women's you should do. They have have soon at least to unite against an extreme canidate on the right that goes too far in being anti woke in some places as the mid terms showed last year.

[Dalton.T.R]

That's all good and dandy, but my overall point is the extreme levels of wokeness ( All white people are evil, America is evil for having had slaves at one point, men competing in women's sports, preaching sexuality to underage kids, there are more than two genders, putting black people in positions they never would have been in historical shows, etc) are increasingly becoming unfavorable views by the general public. And sooner or later this will not be a topic that can be debated.

 

Already we're seeing the pendulum start to swing in the opposite direction. Wokeism and feminism have become such toxic topics that their only future is self-destruction. Feminists have gone so bat kitten crazy that they call all men every hostile name in the book, treat men like kitten, complain about their partners on social media, and intentionally divorce their husbands just to take half the stuff he has worked so hard to build throughout his life. It's to the point now that Western and especially American men are going abroad to look for traditional women that won't demean them. Studies show by 2030 the majority of women will be single and unable to find partners thanks to their egos and unrealistic standards for men to live up to. 

 

Feminists are also not helped by the fact men aren't enrolling into colleges anymore. Male enrollment rates are dropping in colleges and universities as men begin to pursue trade schools where they can learn actual jobs that society really needs. Electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, construction workers. You know... jobs women typically couldn't care less for. Let alone want to date someone who has those types of jobs. 

 

Then you have to factor in the fact more and more men are becoming less comfortable around women. All a woman has to do is lie on social media about an innocent man raping her and his entire life is ruined. Before there's even an investigation into what happened, that innocent man is spit on by society and won't even get a chance to tell his side of the story. There's a thin line between flirting and harassment, and it all has to do with a woman's personal tastes in a man. 

 

The reason I bring feminism into this is because feminism and wokeness are tied together in many ways. Women overwhelmingly lean to the left side of politics and are the life blood of woke culture. Yet, these liberal women can't find partners because they want traditional masculine men who are leaders. Well, guess what? Traditional masculine men tend to be more Conservative, so it leaves liberal women in an awkward place because these Conservative men won't even give them a second glance because they likely believe in abortion and have an insane body count.  On top of that, why would a traditional Conservative man settle with a woman who isn't a traditional woman? You can't have your cake and eat it too. 

 

As the pendulum swings further and further in the opposite direction, Feminism will become less and less appealing until it dies out. And once Feminism dies out, so too will woke culture. 

[Bail o' Lies]

As far as I am concern. Bringing up the possibility of Naruto-Boruto going woke is not political.

 

I see getting political as getting into the weeds or bringing up it unnecessarily. I brought it up as it seemed to be a possible answer to why they are doing tarots. I didn't reply to Bluesabers post because that would have required going into the weeds therefore getting political as far as I am concern.

 

As seen by people reaction of when I brought up the possibly most on this site do not seem fond of it. which means the term is a good shorthand with out going too much into the weeds.

 

As Dalton has said a lot of women support wokeism. So a lot of their interests end up being tied to it. Tarots do not end of itself mean its going woke, but can be a sign of it because that what woke promotes because it what western women the support  those policies like. The fact that Japanese companies are focusing on their ESG scores when they really did care about that beforehand is a much larger concern and sign. As the ESG score is how they force companies to go along with those policies.

[BlueStarSaber]

That's all good and dandy, but my overall point is the extreme levels of wokeness ( All white people are evil, America is evil for having had slaves at one point, men competing in women's sports, preaching sexuality to underage kids, there are more than two genders, putting black people in positions they never would have been in historical shows, etc) are increasingly becoming unfavorable views by the general public. And sooner or later this will not be a topic that can be debated.
 
Already we're seeing the pendulum start to swing in the opposite direction. Wokeism and feminism have become such toxic topics that their only future is self-destruction. Feminists have gone so bat kitten crazy that they call all men every hostile name in the book, treat men like kitten, complain about their partners on social media, and intentionally divorce their husbands just to take half the stuff he has worked so hard to build throughout his life. It's to the point now that Western and especially American men are going abroad to look for traditional women that won't demean them. Studies show by 2030 the majority of women will be single and unable to find partners thanks to their egos and unrealistic standards for men to live up to. 
 
Feminists are also not helped by the fact men aren't enrolling into colleges anymore. Male enrollment rates are dropping in colleges and universities as men begin to pursue trade schools where they can learn actual jobs that society really needs. Electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, construction workers. You know... jobs women typically couldn't care less for. Let alone want to date someone who has those types of jobs. 
 
Then you have to factor in the fact more and more men are becoming less comfortable around women. All a woman has to do is lie on social media about an innocent man raping her and his entire life is ruined. Before there's even an investigation into what happened, that innocent man is spit on by society and won't even get a chance to tell his side of the story. There's a thin line between flirting and harassment, and it all has to do with a woman's personal tastes in a man. 
 
The reason I bring feminism into this is because feminism and wokeness are tied together in many ways. Women overwhelmingly lean to the left side of politics and are the life blood of woke culture. Yet, these liberal women can't find partners because they want traditional masculine men who are leaders. Well, guess what? Traditional masculine men tend to be more Conservative, so it leaves liberal women in an awkward place because these Conservative men won't even give them a second glance because they likely believe in abortion and have an insane body count.  On top of that, why would a traditional Conservative man settle with a woman who isn't a traditional woman? You can't have your cake and eat it too. 
 
As the pendulum swings further and further in the opposite direction, Feminism will become less and less appealing until it dies out. And once Feminism dies out, so too will woke culture.

 

And how is being anti wokeness in the opposite exterem level going to help, if anything it makes the problem worse with these stupid culture war issues they use as an exuse to cause more diversions and not adress any of the problems. Some people who are woke think that all white men are evil while some see woke as its original meaning of being aware of racial injustice.

You say the pendulum swinging the other way, yet despite that many of those people who had anti woke views lost in last years mid terms. When they were execpted to have big wins, but lost due to there exterem views on certain issues that put of moderates and swing voters who probably wouldn't discribe themselves as woke.

You say feminism has gone too exterm on men hating, some have sure. Though frankly I find the opposite end just as bad or worse in some case particularly those who cry witch hunt on cases where the guy is clearly guilt or shady.

That sounds nore like those conservative men want obedient housewifes who never talk about, never get a job and only purpose is for them to have their children while they will do all the work. Gee I wouldn't blame any women who is even a little bit liberal or moderate to be put off dating a guy like that.

I don't see feminism dying out especially when issues like abortion have now once again become a big deal after the over turn or roe vs wade by the supreme court. Especially when when you have extrismt spouting a nationwide ban, either making the time to allow an abortion to be extremely or banning regardless of execptions.

As far as I am concern. Bringing up the possibility of Naruto-Boruto going woke is not political.
 
I see getting political as getting into the weeds or bringing up it unnecessarily. I brought it up as it seemed to be a possible answer to why they are doing tarots. I didn't reply to Bluesabers post because that would have required going into the weeds therefore getting political as far as I am concern.
 
As seen by people reaction of when I brought up the possibly most on this site do not seem fond of it. which means the term is a good shorthand with out going too much into the weeds.
 
As Dalton has said a lot of women support wokeism. So a lot of their interests end up being tied to it. Tarots do not end of itself mean its going woke, but can be a sign of it because that what woke promotes because it what western women the support  those policies like. The fact that Japanese companies are focusing on their ESG scores when they really did care about that beforehand is a much larger concern and sign. As the ESG score is how they force companies to go along with those policies.

Fair enough, though I think at this point the term woke have been used so much and beaten to death with its use for multiple meanings that discussions around it always end up being somewhat political.

I don't really see naruto/boruto ever actually go woke in terms of its series writting, especially with who is writing it. At best I can see merchandise that might be aimed at some people who are considered woke to be made if they think they can get a profit from them.

[Dalton.T.R]

 

And how is being anti wokeness in the opposite exterem level going to help, if anything it makes the problem worse with these stupid culture war issues they use as an exuse to cause more diversions and not adress any of the problems. Some people who are woke think that all white men are evil while some see woke as its original meaning of being aware of racial injustice.

You say the pendulum swinging the other way, yet despite that many of those people who had anti woke views lost in last years mid terms. When they were execpted to have big wins, but lost due to there exterem views on certain issues that put of moderates and swing voters who probably wouldn't discribe themselves as woke.

You say feminism has gone too exterm on men hating, some have sure. Though frankly I find the opposite end just as bad or worse in some case particularly those who cry witch hunt on cases where the guy is clearly guilt or shady.

That sounds nore like those conservative men want obedient housewifes who never talk about, never get a job and only purpose is for them to have their children while they will do all the work. Gee I wouldn't blame any women who is even a little bit liberal or moderate to be put off dating a guy like that.

I don't see feminism dying out especially when issues like abortion have now once again become a big deal after the over turn or roe vs wade by the supreme court. Especially when when you have extrismt spouting a nationwide ban, either making the time to allow an abortion to be extremely or banning regardless of execptions.
 

"Anti-wokeness" is just normal people saying the madness needs to come to an end. Parents not wanting drag queens teaching their kids in school is not "extreme." Parents not wanting sexuality shoved down the throats of their young children is not "extreme." White people being proud that they are white is not "extreme." Americans loving their country and having pride in it is not "extreme." From what I've seen, "right-wing extremism" is anybody who doesn't agree with the left, and it's uniting a lot of people against the left regardless of cultural or religious differences. 

 

You keep brining up the midterms. Alright. Let's look at Florida, what is possibly the most anti-woke state in the country thanks to Ron Desantis. Ron won in a landslide where his competitor didn't even come close to winning. Why? I have a pretty strong bet it has to do with mail in ballots. Florida banned those, as did many other states. Otherwise, I'm sure Ron wouldn't have won his election. Let's remove mail in ballots and we'll see how true a lot of these races were. Because most places Republicans won were places that banned mail in ballots, whereas Democrats just magically got victories out of their asses. And if woke policies really worked, people wouldn't be fleeing leftist cities to Republican towns in Republican states.

 

As for international instances, Italy is a prime example of wokeness becoming a very unwelcome topic.

 

You say feminism hasn't gone to the extreme? Then you clearly don't spend much time on YouTube or TikTok where that's most of what my feed is. Women demanding these ridiculous standards that show just how out of touch with reality they actually are. Women that show they were probably never told the word "no" a day in their lives. Women that will happily body shame a man, then kitten and scream the second a man does the same to them. All you have to do is watch people like these to see I'm not far from the truth. Not to mention Andrew Tate and Jordon Peterson who speak out on this stuff quite a lot.

The Dadvocate - YouTube

Better Bachelor - YouTube

emilywking - YouTube

Man Talk - YouTube

Strong Successful Male - YouTube

 

As for your rant about Conservative men, you couldn't be further from the truth. Conservatives don't care if their wife works or not. Some women prefer the stay-at-home mom life while others don't. It's whatever floats your boat in most cases. If the woman wants to work, then fine. But her income won't be something that's towards the front of his mind, IF it's ever there to begin with. You'll occasionally get the kitten who treats women bad, but that goes for both parties, and it's more often than not what women go for most of the time. 

 

Feminism will die out because of abortions. So, please. Go ahead. Keep killing your younger generations while Conservatives continue to reproduce because they don't view abortions favorably unless under very dire circumstances. Conservatives already have the advantage when it comes to this because they're reproducing at a far higher rate than liberals and their fertility rate is higher. Turns out when your party supports gays, trans, and abortions, your population somehow tends to decline. Who would've thought?

[Dalton.T.R]

Just more proof "Commifornia" needs to be cut off from the rest of the country. This makes my blood boil! 

 

Governor Newsom proposing a 28th Amendment to the Constitution to end the gun violence crisis - YouTube

[BlueStarSaber]

"Anti-wokeness" is just normal people saying the madness needs to come to an end. Parents not wanting drag queens teaching their kids in school is not "extreme." Parents not wanting sexuality shoved down the throats of their young children is not "extreme." White people being proud that they are white is not "extreme." Americans loving their country and having pride in it is not "extreme." From what I've seen, "right-wing extremism" is anybody who doesn't agree with the left, and it's uniting a lot of people against the left regardless of cultural or religious differences. 
 
You keep brining up the midterms. Alright. Let's look at Florida, what is possibly the most anti-woke state in the country thanks to Ron Desantis. Ron won in a landslide where his competitor didn't even come close to winning. Why? I have a pretty strong bet it has to do with mail in ballots. Florida banned those, as did many other states. Otherwise, I'm sure Ron wouldn't have won his election. Let's remove mail in ballots and we'll see how true a lot of these races were. Because most places Republicans won were places that banned mail in ballots, whereas Democrats just magically got victories out of their asses. And if woke policies really worked, people wouldn't be fleeing leftist cities to Republican towns in Republican states.
 
As for international instances, Italy is a prime example of wokeness becoming a very unwelcome topic.
 
You say feminism hasn't gone to the extreme? Then you clearly don't spend much time on YouTube or TikTok where that's most of what my feed is. Women demanding these ridiculous standards that show just how out of touch with reality they actually are. Women that show they were probably never told the word "no" a day in their lives. Women that will happily body shame a man, then kitten and scream the second a man does the same to them. All you have to do is watch people like these to see I'm not far from the truth. Not to mention Andrew Tate and Jordon Peterson who speak out on this stuff quite a lot.
The Dadvocate - YouTube
Better Bachelor - YouTube
emilywking - YouTube
Man Talk - YouTube
Strong Successful Male - YouTube
 
As for your rant about Conservative men, you couldn't be further from the truth. Conservatives don't care if their wife works or not. Some women prefer the stay-at-home mom life while others don't. It's whatever floats your boat in most cases. If the woman wants to work, then fine. But her income won't be something that's towards the front of his mind, IF it's ever there to begin with. You'll occasionally get the kitten who treats women bad, but that goes for both parties, and it's more often than not what women go for most of the time. 
 
Feminism will die out because of abortions. So, please. Go ahead. Keep killing your younger generations while Conservatives continue to reproduce because they don't view abortions favorably unless under very dire circumstances. Conservatives already have the advantage when it comes to this because they're reproducing at a far higher rate than liberals and their fertility rate is higher. Turns out when your party supports gays, trans, and abortions, your population somehow tends to decline. Who would've thought?

 
Oh please a lot of what you discribe as being anti woke I have seen conservatives take to such extremes, they ban anything even remotely to topics of lgbt+ or race. Going all authoritarian about it the way they acuse on the left, only to throw a hissey fit when their own rules are used against them when the bible gets banned from a school.

https://youtu.be/hSuZPjizKoE
https://youtu.be/J6ar4iyDUu4

Oh yes Ron Desantis the so called canidate who was supposed to beat trump for the nomination is now losing badly against him. Who has little substance and only stands for anything anti woke, that he gets into a pointless war with Disney and goes so extreme with anti wokeness that even some republicans think he goes to far when it damages florida and drives too many migrants and dlfarm workers away from the state. Heck I have seen trump recently mock him for going on about woke woke woke.

So he and other republicans did voter suppression in order to win. There is nothing wrong with having your vote sent by mail, every democratic country does it. Heck I am a postal voter in the UK, which conservatives tend to do well because alot of they elderly voters post by mail. There is no conspiracy behind postal voting rigging elections, just Democrats being so good at campaigning to get their voters to cast their ballots by mail incase they can't in person. If Republicans actually told their voters to do the same, they might do better.

Italy political is one of the most unstable countries in Europe and the world having about 68 different governments since after WW2, with most barely lasting over a year. I wouldn't be surprised if that will happen to this current and collapses in a year or 2.

I'm on YouTube all the time and have seen plenty of videos recommended being all anti woke or against feminism. I even see comments all the time on this or conservatives commenting on news videos that goes against their beliefs or narratives. 

Andrew Tate is literally the worst example you could use right now given his ongoing investigation of human trafficking.
https://youtu.be/m1O0DiiMlR0

Could of folded me with your conservative men looking for traditional women quote. Plus conservatives like Andrew Tate that you respect have stated women "belong in the home", "can't drive", and are a "man's property". If women want to be stay-at-home mothers that's there choice I hold nothing against it, but frankly I have seen certain ultra right wing conservative get upset when they don't choice that, along not having kids or having abortions.

Abortions aren't killing feminism or being the main cause for decline in populations, developed countries all over the world are having populations decline due to things like rapid develoment since the industrial revolution with morden day tech, the ecomic climate makes it too expensive to have children and causes they have made themselves like China's one child policy and Russia invasion of ukraine.

I have seen many of the consertives politicians take extreme measures against abortions that some want to ban it entirely regardless of the circumstances or reasons, it one of the main reasons Democrats won so many seats than execpted and prevented a red wavevin the mid terms.

Also I doubt liberal demographics are getting smaller, given how every presidential election execpt 2004 the Democrats have won the popular vote every time in the 21st century. Plus more young people in the country tend to learn more to the Democrats or at least anti Republican.

Just more proof "Commifornia" needs to be cut off from the rest of the country. This makes my blood boil! 
 
Governor Newsom proposing a 28th Amendment to the Constitution to end the gun violence crisis - YouTube

Yeah I doubt california will ever leave or be removed from the usa same with other states. I don't see anything wrong with what he is proposing, though I doubt it's going to pass.

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 14 June 2023 - 04:29 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

So, Trump has won in a landslide getting the Electoral vote count of 312, the popular vote of around 75 million, the senate, the house, and the Supreme Court. So let's look at somethings.

 

The past 4 years were awful and most people even around the world seem to want to go back to what it was when Trump was in charge.

 

The Pull out of Afghanistan. Trump had already set up the pull out and made deals with all sides to make it work. The agreement being that the US would pull out by May, but Biden-Harris wanted to pull out on 9/11 so they could parade around declaring they ended The War on Terror. Without giving the Taliban anything to agree to this change. So the Taliban decided to renew the conflict on the original agreed date. The Afghan army that the US had built up for 20 years instantly collapse because Biden-Harris didn't pay them; which Trump originally planned to do. So its collapse while the US forces were lazily withdrawing to the point it turned into a route. An embarrassing retreat on the world stage that weaken America's prestige around the world and soured the citizens to anymore interventions. This embolden America's rivals to enact their own plans. Also the US Forces left behind billions of dollars in military equipment the Taliban can now use themselves or sell to others.

 

War In Ukraine. Putin had made it very clear over the years that he would not allow Ukraine with the largest army in Europe to join NATO as it would put it on Russia's border a short trip to Moscow. He didn't do anything with Trump, but after the disaster with Afghanistan he saw Biden weak enough to risk an invasion to cripple Ukraine and force a peace deal to make sure it remains out of NATO; also to grab some territory. He attacked Kiev in hopes of a quick victory by taking the capital, but his primary focus were the four regions/oblast that would connect Russia to Russian controlled Crimea. Which would give Russia a land route to the Black Sea to control it and one of its most ancient desire's a warm water port. Biden's main means of fighting Russia -besides arming the Ukrainians- is sanctions and trying to force the rest of the world to go along with it, which backfired. As Russia was the primary supplier for natural goods such as oil and gas to Europe. Which has led to both Europe and the global economy at large to be crippled if not put into a death spiral. Not only that but not every country isn't going along with the US and is instead supporting Russia: China, India, Several African nations, the Middle East including Saudi Arabia, and even some central and southern America states. Risking turning the world from a Unipolar world with America as the sole superpower to a bipolar world with a declining America-Europe up against an ascendant China-Russia.

 

Gaza. Apparently Trump's Abrahams Accords along with punishing sanctions on Iran had largely brought peace and stability to the Middle East had not seen in over 50 years. Besides Iran, all the Arab states had recognized Israel, made peace with it, and stopped supporting a separate Palestinian state. Without foreign support they would eventually be forced to peacefully come to the table on Israel's terms. All Biden-Harris had to do was not mess with it. Instead they tore up the accords and lifted the sanctions. Allowing Iran to secure funding and equipment from the Afghanis for Hamas which enacted a terrorist attack on civilian targets on October 7th 2023. Which led to a brutal reprisal by Israel which has led to a rise in antisemitism especially in Europe and the Left in the US. Biden having to play both sides to appease the largely Israel supporting federal government and his Palestine supporting voters, pleasing no one. Also, as the war has gone on it has completely soured Israel's relations with the Arab-Muslim states in the Middle East. Which was increasingly projected to led to a larger religious war in the Middle East if nothing changed.

 

Illegal Immigration: It went from a border state issue to a 50 state issue. From the second Biden got in and Harris was made Border Czar. The Southern Border has been flooded with illegal immigrants. Tens of thousands every day millions every month. Overwhelm and sick of it the Republican Governors decided to do what Trump once suggested. Bus the illegals to the sanctuary cities so they could deal with it. Starting with that embarrassing for the Left event at Martha's Vineyard (a vacation spot for the wealthy elites of the country) where they scream all the stuff the border states been saying for years. Proving a point and seeing how successful it was they decided to continue the program. Now Democrat control major cities are poorly run siphoning off most of the budget and spending the minimum to keep the city afloat. So, they were quickly overwhelm by these immigrants filling their barely functioning systems. Also the border is not controlled by either the US or the Mexico government. It is controlled by the cartels. Anyone that wants to cross has to pay them, they kill anyone who tries to cross without their blessing, and they all owe debts to them. So this also means an increasing in crime and a drug epidemic with the deadly fentanyl.

 

Economy. Lower and Middle class can barely afford groceries.

 

Biden's health. Biden was actually showing early signs of either Alzheimer or dementia during the 2020 race. It was there and you know if you can tell the signs, but it was early enough to be hidden for most people. Also helped that Covid allowed him to avoid the public for most of the race. He has been on a decline for the past 4 years but the media has helped hide it, and his staff drug him to keep him semi-cognizant for short speeches. They refused to run a primary because they hoped to hide it again. So they could have 8 years of Biden, then 8 years of Harris. That all fell apart after that debate and they quickly threw him under the bus. Which made him spiteful toward his party and his successor.

 

Kamala Harris is known for being very intellectually lazy. She always had her staff do most of her work. She rarely if ever read the files or memos her staff made for her so when either put in front of a judge as a prosecutor or the media as a politicians. All she could do is drunkenly yammer like your wine drunk aunt and awkwardly laugh. Then she would punish her staff for making her look like a fool for the data she never read; which why as VP she have a 92% turnover rate with staff. It was apparently a known in-joke in legal circles of California that if she was a the prosecutor of a case, the defense attorney would high five their client; as they had already won the case. During her entire time as a lawyer she only handled a case that went to court 5 times in about 30 years. Since she was bad, her primary targets were people that hopefully could not afford good lawyers. Poor Blacks. She locked up thousands of black men for marijuana possession charges and then kept them in jail passed their release dates so the state could use them as slave labor. She went after poor black mothers for their children's truancy because the Teacher's Unions weren't getting their cut of the funding from the government for attendance. One mother lost her job, her house, and 12 year old daughter had a stroke, all due truancy. The mother's daughter had sickle cells so she had to constantly go to the hospital for treatment; which the school knew about. She disbanded the California narcotics division they had since prohibition which has let the cartels run rampant. She also apparently was involved in a case that led to the current standards in video games.

 

Apparently, her primary skill was positioning herself. She couldn't win a race, but she make herself the first pick if someone had to step down for one reason or another. That how she became DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator of California, VP as Biden to get the nomination had to agree to pick a PoC woman as his VP and she was the first choice, and The Democrat's Presidential candidate for 2024 election; as if they didn't choose her, they would have to give back a Billion Dollars in campaign funding that was raised for Biden.

 

Her campaign had to run on "Trump is Hitler," and fearmongering about abortion (all the states she won already have their desired abortion laws and the Republicans want it as a state issue) because she had nothing else to run on. The economy was better under Trump, immigration became the main concern after the economy which she was put in charge of, people got sick of woke, and there were no wars under Trump. Also she had a campaign that had a billion dollar the highest raised ever for a presidential campaign, and she ended with a debt of $20 million in about 3 months.

 

The Debates. Hopefully I said it before but I think the early debate had a real impact. Normally, they are all crammed into October just before the election one week after another. This allowed the media to controlled who won. With them spread out for one, it forced out Joe, for two, the farther time apart allowed for more discussion for each one, and three, they were over before October leaving only campaign events and interviews which Trump-Vance were good at and Harris-Waltz were bad at. 

 

Polling. Pollster continue to refused to adjust their oversampling of Democrats. Leading to be blindsided by how unpopular they really are.

 

Celebrities and the Mainstream Media. They still do not realize how hated they are by most people and how they are increasingly irrelevant. Not helped they back Kamala to the hilt she lost and its now been discovered all their endorsements were paid for in the millions.

 

Now on to Trump. No one was more surprise than he was when he won in 2016. So he felt obligated to try to fulfill his campaign promises. Where he was met with a hostile establishment that did not want him and did everything they could to undermined him.

 

Now the next part is hearsay I have heard.

 

Ivanka Trump was his favorite child and consider the brightest among them. She and her husband Jared Kushner decided they would help her Daddy by becoming his top political advisors. She decided to do this by ingratiating herself with the establishment. They were in charge of help pick out his staff in his first term and they were even the ones who selected Mike Pence to be his VP. Which resulted in the high turn over rate when the appointments kept stabbing her daddy in the back. Remember BlackRock everyone? Jared and Ivanka helped it become as powerful as it has become by getting Trump to support it; that then switched over to Biden when he lost.. She is the only member of her family that will both call Jan 6 an insurrection and that her Daddy lost 2020 election. You will notice she is not a part of his 2024 team.

 

Donald Trump Jr. Is the eldest and considered the dumbest of Trump's kids. Unlike his sister who was buddying up with the establishment he talked to conservative radio, podcast and such to realize. The Republican voters do not like their Republican Politicians, they only put up with them because the Democrats would turn everywhere into Detroit otherwise, and they are quite happy to replace them with people that actually do what they were sent to Washington to do. Such as the Tea Party. So Trump doesn't need the Washington Politicians, he needs to keep his voters as they will replace the politicians that oppose Trump. When his father lost in 2020 he spent the next two years planning on replacing his sister as his father's top advisor. When he presented his plan to his father in 2022 Ivanka tried to oppose it. Trump said to give her own plan, which Jr was able to counter every one of her ideas. When she lost, he told to stay out of it, and focus on her family. He put Lara Trump in charge of a RNC as Co-Chair who then enacted a plan to deal with the ballot stuffing that lost Trump the 2020 election. About 20,000 volunteer poll watchers were trained in secret for months, and about 1,000 lawyers paid to be ready for any shenanigans in any of the swing states. He was also the one who selected Vance to be Trump's second VP. He had to expend any favors he had with his father to do it as Vance was a Never-Trump Republican during his term. Jr knew that Vance had switched afterwards and was the perfect VP for his father. Someone willing to take the fight to the news as well as eloquently explain the MAGA movement better than Trump, and was young enough to be President after him. Trump wasn't convince till that VP debate.

 

Trump was a decent President that's administration was ridden with scandals. While it would have been somewhat better in 2020 if he had gotten in. It is better that he had lost as now the world has seen just how bad Biden-Harris term has been they are far more willing to work with Trump. He has removed the traitors from his staff. As well as the Never-Trump Republicans have been slowly removed from office over the years, so they don't have the influence they once did, and know going against Trump too much will cause their voter to replace them.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 17 November 2024 - 10:42 AM.

[BlueStarSaber]

Trump was a disaster and he will be worse in his 2nd term

[totherpage95]

Yeah why the united states wanted grab em by the pussy again is simply inscrutable...
This guy is a felon who asked his followers to stage a coup he shouldn't even be allowed to run except he's got the court stacked with allies. Trump also said he will take away elections in the future meaning he intends to do away with term limits to stay in power (and also away from the bars)