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We know he will.
No but he knows and that doesnt make sense.

No we don't

Could you have predicted that "that" jutsu Naruto was talking about was going to be the Reversed Harem jutsu

one of the smartest shinboi's konoha has.
Has she done a single plan that was successfull?
Was her intelligence a feat that was really important for something be successfull?
No you can't so i dont think she's one of the smartest konoha shinobi's when this trait is not put into pratice and anyway it was shikamaru/Kakashi/Naruto who solved the code not Sakura.

Because plans show how smart you are right?
She's one of the smartest they have, deal with it. I don't know why you're down playing her

She helped Shikamaru with the code, she had a really good idea on how Obito's jutsu worked, she figured out Zetsu's plan, she saved Kankuro, and a whole bunch of things from the Sasori fight

yeah it makes no sense, she's suddenly strong and badass for destroying more fodders than the other k11's.
She's a great main character when you're comparing her power with other side characters like the k11 she's such a strong kunoichi.
You dont even compared her with Tsunade the person whom she's supposed to surpass.
The first hokage praised her so what?
It was put to practice, she could even lay a finger on Madara, neither do something against anyone other than fodders on this arc.

You want me to compare her to Tsunade? Find

She learned and mastered her Jutsu way before she did

Has more destructive power

Saved Naruto while Tsunade couldn't save Dane

Also let's not forget she's not from a famous clan, unlike Tsunade who's 25% Senju and 25% uzumaki

Lol a shinobi regarded as the God of Shonibi praised her, no big deal at all

Hey genius, the story isn't over, you're acting like there's no chance for her to showcase her powers again

 I didnt diminshed it i just did a commentary.
About Tsunade, it just show that she hasnt surpassed her, Jiraiya had ages ahead Naruto and yet his sage mode was stronger than Jiraiya's, Sakura's healing ninjutsu inst superior to Tsunade's.

She hasn't surpassed her yet.

Kishimoto has focused on Naruto and Sasuke the most, Naruto surpassing Jiraiya had to happen in order to defeat Pain.

With Naruto's chakra cloak, her healing ninjutsu was supposed to compliment Naruto's power, however he's now a god it's no longer usefull.
 
That's telling, how Sakura can be usefull when all her teamates are capable of doing way more than her on everything?
She doesnt have anything that make her a distinct asset on her team, she doesnt have abilities to compliment their abilities that's what i'm saying.
She worked hard for that powerup for Naruto in one chapter make all that pointless and irrelevant to a point that her character has no room more to develop other on the emotional aspect.

Jesus, nobody from Team 7 can heal like Sakura

Sasuke, nor Naruto, nor Kakashi can heal

They can't heal multiple people at the same time

They also don't have raw strength like she does(except maybe for Naruto in SM)

 

Her healing skills - Naruto makes it look like genin level.
Her intelligence - rushing to attack Madara out of nowhere.
Her strenght - Naruto's punch there.

Where she can make a difference on this?

For the last time, it's not healing. He can't heal, he can create

Wow, she did something bad and now she's not intelligent. Please don't do that

Naruto's punch where? Punching Kaguya? 

 

The story isn't over it, my god 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 30 June 2014 - 03:12 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No we don't
Could you have predicted that "that" jutsu Naruto was talking about was going to be the Reversed Harem jutsu

When he said that it was a jutsu he was training way before than the rasengan i knew it would be the sexy no jutsu since it was the first jutsu he created.
 

Because plans show how smart you are right?
She's one of the smartest they have, deal with it. I don't know why you're down playing her
She helped Shikamaru with the code, she had a really good idea on how Obito's jutsu worked, she figured out Zetsu's plan, she saved Kankuro, and a whole bunch of things from the Sasori fight

Yep, plans show how smart someome is, like Naruto as an example, he may lacks wisdom and has limited vocabulary but he created a lot of plans and they were successfull.
You're mistaking smart with intelligence.

 

You want me to compare her to Tsunade? Find
She learned and mastered her Jutsu way before she did
Has more destructive power
Saved Naruto while Tsunade couldn't save Dane

1st - "Learned and master he jutsu way before she did", we dont know when Tsunade mastered that ninjutsu and doesnt matter the time what matters is if they did something superior to them, Sakura hasnt show anything that Tsunade is not capable off.
About her punch, it's shown that it's may due to the fact Tsunade has to use a part of her seal chakra to maintain youthfull looks and to finish off doesnt matter if she has a stronger punch than Tsunade or not she doesnt have speed anyway.
"Saved Naruto while Tsunade couldn't save Dane".
Remember that it was the fact Obito had to seal the kyuubi on Naruto for him to be alive, Sakura managed to keep Naruto alive for that purpose.

About the rest you're putting words in my mouth and giving her way more credit than she deserves and and also making excuses like "No one on team 7 can heal like her or she doesnt come from a clan" i dont care, Naruto's healing powers are superior to Sakura, she was compared by you to the k11 a group of side characters, on which some of them like Ino on which her development is infinite times superior than Sakura.
And to be completely honest she didnt surpassed Tsunade and is not even close to the Mizukage which is the strongest female character alive.
And to be completely honest, about the praising stuff, we can even have Madara say that Sakura is stronger than Naruto and Sasuke tells us to deal with it.
Kishimoto hasnt show anything impressive that tells us that Sakura is superior than Tsunade.

It ends here with my agree to disagree.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 June 2014 - 03:24 PM.

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When he said that it was a jutsu he was training way before than the rasengan i knew it would be the sexy no jutsu since it was the first jutsu he created.
 
Yep, plans show how smart someome is, like Naruto as an example, he may lacks wisdom and has limited vocabulary but he created a lot of plans and they were successfull.
You're mistaking smart with intelligence.

 
1st - "Learned and master he jutsu way before she did", we dont know when Tsunade mastered that ninjutsu and doesnt matter the time what matters is if they did something superior to them, Sakura hasnt show anything that Tsunade is not capable off.
About her punch, it's shown that it's may due to the fact Tsunade has to use a part of her seal chakra to maintain youthfull looks and to finish off doesnt matter if she has a stronger punch than Tsunade or not she doesnt have speed anyway.
"Saved Naruto while Tsunade couldn't save Dane".
Remember that it was the fact Obito had to seal the kyuubi on Naruto for him to be alive, Sakura managed to keep Naruto alive for that purpose.

About the rest you're putting words in my mouth and giving her way more credit than she deserves and and also making excuses like "No one on team 7 can heal like her or she doesnt come from a clan" i dont care, Naruto's healing powers are superior to Sakura, she was compared by you to the k11 a group of side characters, on which some of them like Ino on which her development is infinite times superior than Sakura.
And to be completely honest she didnt surpassed Tsunade and is not even close to the Mizukage which is the strongest female character alive.
And to be completely honest, about the praising stuff, we can even have Madara say that Sakura is stronger than Naruto and Sasuke tells us to deal with it.
Kishimoto hasnt show anything impressive that tells us that Sakura is superior than Tsunade.

It ends here with my agree to disagree.

 

Good cause I can't argue with you, such a downplaying person who always thinks he's right. I have visited this site for a few months now and you're always down playing characters. You obviously read everything with your perspective and pass it as fact. How can I compare Sakura to two demi gods who Kishimoto has focused on the most, it doesn't make sense. You're no better than Forneverworld 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 30 June 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Good cause I can't argue with you, such a downplaying person who always thinks he's right. I have visited this site for a few months now and you're always down playing characters. You obviously read everything with your perspective and pass it as fact. How can I compare Sakura to two demi gods who Kishimoto has focused on the most, it doesn't make sense. You're no better than Forneverworld

That's your interpretation, i can say the exact opposite remember how people here bashed Hinata for charging at Pain without a plan and when Sakura did exactly the same she was praised.
"How can i compare Sakura to two demi gods"
Inst her objective to become equal with them?
Dont make excuses about the fact she inst strong like them, she inst even close to the strongest kunouchis we had.
Also i didnt compared her with Naruto and Sasuke just pointed out the obvious fact her abilities doesnt even compliment with them.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 June 2014 - 03:39 PM.

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That's your interpretation, i can say the exact opposite remember how people here bashed Hinata for charging at Pain without a plan and when Sakura did exactly the same she was praised.
"How can i compare Sakura to two demi gods"
Inst her objective to become equal with them?
Dont make excuses about the fact she inst strong like them, she inst even close to the strongest kunouchis we had.

No because I didn't go to Naruto forums back then. 

Yes it is, but she's not there. Compare her to people who are obviously stronger than her, nice idea

Make excuses for what? I never said she was as strong as them or the strongest kunouchi we have seen. Funny how you say I put words in your mouth when you're the one putting words in my mouth.

Edited by TheMagicConch, 30 June 2014 - 03:41 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No because I didn't go to Naruto forums back then. 
Yes it is, but she's not there. Compare her to people who are obviously stronger than her, nice idea
Make excuses for what? I never said she was as strong as them or the strongest kunouchi we have seen. Funny how you say I put words in your mouth when you're the one putting words in my mouth.

It was you whom bought who said i was comparing Sakura to Naruto and Sasuke i didnt do it, i just said her abilities doesnt compliment their's that's not about being strong as they are.

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It was you whom bought who said i was comparing Sakura to Naruto and Sasuke i didnt do it, i just said her abilities doesnt compliment their's that's not about being strong as they are.

Of course they don't

Yin-yang

Naruto and Sasuke, kishimoto has been implying that for ever now. I thought you were trying to say she has no place or no value in Team 7 that is apart from the rest 

[Atheck]

This is why I believe an intermediary stage is best suited for Sakura. It allows her to show greater prominence in the chapter by chapter events without holding her to Naruto and Sasuke's standards. The Rookies have been more accommodating for out of place characters since the war began. Kishi even dedicated a colour spread with Sakura posing in the same attire as them off to the side while Tobi and Naruto are at the forefront in their distinctive roles. That's quite an allusion to the standards being used in formulating these tier groups. Her gimmicks are limited to a strong fist, some auto-regeneration with an unknown ceiling, and a summoning who has about as much show time as Shino. If we're going to judge someone's power based on the scope of residual damage then Temari and Kimimaro should be sitting up there near the top also. Maybe it's just me, but I think technical skill and experience is most important. I've seen IA Sasuke show better, more fluid hand-to-hand skills than Sakura. But that might have been an intentional design choice for Sakura, choosing power over technique. It doesn't make her the best, but with her regeneration, any mistakes made can be rectified as she barrels on through like Madara did with Hashirama's powers. She did admit that making split-second decisions wasn't her strong-suit. That could also be a substantive reason to explain away her constant "damsel in distress" moments in this war.

[only Naruto]

It was you whom bought who said i was comparing Sakura to Naruto and Sasuke i didnt do it, i just said her abilities doesnt compliment their's that's not about being strong as they 

hey darkest .i think you are frustrated from the manga .cause you already thought that u saw how it would be and when it didnt you just gave up .and trying to ruin it for every body .and this is evil my friend. .and you said it your self few days a go  that kishi ruined it for you and you are just staying here same as luffy1  to see how will he ruin it more for you ..so when james said that if people are not happy let them stop. i wasnt with him .but i ll take his words and tell it to you only .cause if you just here to ruin it for the rest yeah i think you should stop commenting .and if you are here to discus without bashing .no one can argue with this .i hope am wrong cause you are very smart and one of the best in this site.

 

do you remember when i told you that i feel that your favorite character is sasuke .and yo told me that your favorite is naruto . i think you like naruto in the manga . but you act like sasuke in reality thats why from your posts i said you like sasuke ..even if  you are saying the truth about something u say it in a cold way  way that teas people .and in the last 2 weeks almost all of your posts just to bash on sakura just to ruin the manga .for us .thats sasuke style my friend.. and you really act as the manga is ended . every thing you are bothered from can be fixed in a way. and if it ended with the things u  r bothered with then u  will have the right to be so so annoyed with kishi.   

 

any way you are free to do what u want .and forgive me if i was disrespectful in any way .but i was just saying what i saw . and good luck .

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

hey darkest .i think you are frustrated from the manga .cause you already thought that u saw how it would be and when it didnt you just gave up .and trying to ruin it for every body .and this is evil my friend. .and you said it your self few days a go  that kishi ruined it for you and you are just staying here same as luffy1  to see how will he ruin it more for you ..so when james said that if people are not happy let them stop. i wasnt with him .but i ll take his words and tell it to you only .cause if you just here to ruin it for the rest yeah i think you should stop commenting .and if you are here to discus without bashing .no one can argue with this .i hope am wrong cause you are very smart and one of the best in this site.

Here we go again, criticize Sakura = basher.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

you know. the people are making me feel as naruto manga has ended .and as if last chapter was like kishi ended naruto development with the harem jutsu and sakura development with the she will never figth and she will never stop loving sasuke . i think its insult to kishi  . i think people should  wait till the end .cause if kishi made sakura to help with the fight .in the next chapters and thats what likely will happen .so what then he is a genius and they are happy .which means all what they are doing now is pointless and they dont have Paitence .which mean that they shoud stop reading the manga every week they should just read it every 2 months if they cant handle it. but anyway they are free to do what they want and we are ready to discuss it with them every time.  but they are wrong about being so annoyed , and if the manga ended with the things that they are annoyed with .let them make a big welcoming for me with them but till then am on kishi side .

Thats pretty true, people tend to act like the last chapter they read is how the story is going to continue and that the characters are stuck in the state for the rest of the story.

Admittedly I don't have a lot of respect for where Kishi is going but I don't judge Sakura- because when she does something SHE DOES it good. Kishi has messed up alot-- a major point being his continuous fanboying over Sasuke rather then focusing on his title character. It makes Naruto and by extension Sakura look pathetic not like heroes when they seem willing to sacrifice everything to drag an unwilling Sasuke around like a ragdoll. 

Am I mad that she's less involved then she should be as a member of team 7 and a main character? of course, but then I look at how all the other women have been treated and by perspective its no longer a big deal. I don't get furious, I don't threaten to stop reading-- I  just accept it, ( After whining about it a bit) cling to the good parts and ride it out.
 

[Otaru]

My response was ignored lol

[only Naruto]

 
Ah ! You may be right ! I think Naruto wants to free them.
 

No that's another debate. I'm not talking about that.
I know some people think that Kishimoto destroyed his theme about working hard to attain you goal.
I am against this idea, but it's not the subject right now.
What I wanted to say, is that Kishimoto writes Naruto to be great, and often, just after, he writes him to be dumb in the middle of the fight, like that time when he tried to uses senjutsu with Kyuubi mode. It worked just after, because Kyuubi helped, but it was a 'dumb' moment. There is also that time when Hinata was forced to slap Naruto to wake him up. Naruto is not perfect, he's still a little dumb, and also he has a weak point about his friends life/death. I think he will always be like that. It's how Kishomoto created his character.
Sakura is unsecure. She has always be, it was her big weakness when she was a little girl. So, as she's still learning and growing, to me it feels logical that she still has some times when she feels insecure. I think Kishimoto wants her to grow more from that. And I think that's why he made her insecure about what Sasuke said. I also still think that's it's a setup for her to understand something about Kaguya.
 

Kishimoto doesn't know what his readers have already understood.
I think that's why.
IMO he's just following his path.
Things have become obvious to us, about Sasuke, aboute Sakura, I think that's why some of us are annoyed by all the dragging. I can understand that. I am sometimes a little frustrated too.
Also, IMO, Kishimoto doesn't writing that Sakura still loves Sasuke anymore. I think on the contrary, like he made Kakashi said, it's now only a nakama bond.
That moment when Sakura worried about Sasuke was for us readers. I think Kishimoto wants us to ask ourselves this same question. The answer is obvious for most of us, but not for everyone IMO. Like I said before, I think Kishimoto is just following his path.

 

She felt useless at that time at the bridge because it's like her character.
At that time Kishimoto wanted to show her deep care for Naruto. How could he do that without writing Sakura the way he did ? All this was to induce Yamato's phrase. That time was pure NaruSaku development. Kishimoto wanted to do it for this purpose, not to downgrade Sakura. That's how you see it, because you're frustrated somehow. But it's not the real message.

I don't know... I can understand some of us are frustrated, but I'm sure Kishimoto will do it right til' the end

yeah  i believe kishi can do it right but he is just taking his time with it .and am okay with it ,  

 

hahahha no one can ignore your deadly analysis 

[only Naruto]

Here we go again, criticize Sakura = basher.

hahaha as u wish but i see u bashing for the last 2 weeks .  i will try to reply your points later but i have to go now . .have a god day.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

What I wanted to say, is that Kishimoto writes Naruto to be great, and often, just after, he writes him to be dumb in the middle of the fight, like that time when he tried to uses senjutsu with Kyuubi mode. It worked just after, because Kyuubi helped, but it was a 'dumb' moment. There is also that time when Hinata was forced to slap Naruto to wake him up. Naruto is not perfect, he's still a little dumb, and also he has a weak point about his friends life/death. I think he will always be like that. It's how Kishomoto created his character.

That's his character despite the Hinata part being really OOC since what happened there already happened previously when Obito asked him how the people on which sacrificed their lives for him to move forward would feel if he was defeated.
Then suddenly on that moment he was on despair because Neji died.
 

Sakura is unsecure. She has always be, it was her big weakness when she was a little girl. So, as she's still learning and growing, to me it feels logical that she still has some times when she feels insecure. I think Kishimoto wants her to grow more from that. And I think that's why he made her insecure about what Sasuke said. I also still think that's it's a setup for her to understand something about Kaguya.

I think the really problem is that Sakura was never meant to be super strong and caught up with Naruto and Sasuke, because that moment was implied that she would never had to be saved from by them he twisted it about catching up and being as an equal, later he makes her in damsel in distress situations several times, she was saved like 4~5 time on the interval between her powerup to the most recent chapter.
About her strenght, is not about insecure, is her being intelligent enough to realize.
Look at Kakashi he was intelligent enough to recognize his limitations since he doesnt have sharingan and knows that he should not be a hindrance to Naruto/Sasuke meanwhile Sakura rushed to Madara and had to once again be rescued by them just to be once again sad because Sasuke didnt asked if she was fine.
her own limitations it needed Sasuke to act as a jerk and insult her like that for her to understand it.
 

Kishimoto doesn't know what his readers have already understood.
I think that's why.
IMO he's just following his path.
Things have become obvious to us, about Sasuke, aboute Sakura, I think that's why some of us are annoyed by all the dragging. I can understand that. I am sometimes a little frustrated too.
Also, IMO, Kishimoto doesn't writing that Sakura still loves Sasuke anymore. I think on the contrary, like he made Kakashi said, it's now only a nakama bond.
That moment when Sakura worried about Sasuke was for us readers. I think Kishimoto wants us to ask ourselves this same question. The answer is obvious for most of us, but not for everyone IMO. Like I said before, I think Kishimoto is just following his path.

About this whole Sakura loving Sasuke, i dont jump to conclusions, there's hints here and hints there, but however i wont discuss because the whole drama is pointless and bad played.
 

She felt useless at that time at the bridge because it's like her character.
At that time Kishimoto wanted to show her deep care for Naruto. How could he do that without writing Sakura the way he did ? All this was to induce Yamato's phrase. That time was pure NaruSaku development. Kishimoto wanted to do it for this purpose, not to downgrade Sakura. That's how you see it, because you're frustrated somehow. But it's not the real message.

I don't know... I can understand some of us are frustrated, but I'm sure Kishimoto will do it right til' the end.

She could have kept worrying like that but she took it really deep to a point that this whole "useless" thing is still dragging on.
SHe took down Sasori with Chyio and other healing parts but just because she didnt had the cells of the first hokage to stop Naruto on his 4 tails form she blames herself of being useless the entire manga.
it doesnt sound reasonable to me.
About Sakura, she has no background, nor goals of her own, her objective is to support Naruto, orbiting around the whole team 7 thing on the emotional level based on her personal feelings.
The biggest problem is that with all this combined she has only two things stated by Kishimoto:

- Catching up with Naruto and Sasuke :
Obvious she would never catch up with god-like teammates, but why keep dragging this on and maker her in damsel in distress situations?

- Invalid Statements :
With character we have this let me pick up Naruto as an example.
We have several characters telling that he surpassed Jiraiya.
We saw him doing a better sage mode, and perfectly mastering the rasengan, without a doubt i can say he surpssed Jiraiya.

Someome said Sakura surpassed Tsunade :
However doesnt show nothing of superior than Tsunade, and her forehead ninjutsu is a great hidrance to her on which is not a Senju, increasing the colletaral effect unless if Kishimoto discarded the collateral damage aswell since he's getting rid of logic.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 June 2014 - 06:55 PM.

[soraandven]

Here we go again, criticize Sakura = basher.

 

hahaha as u wish but i see u bashing for the last 2 weeks .  i will try to reply your points later but i have to go now . .have a god day.

he's bashed on other things to

[Turson]

Remember that discussion about Sakura not mentioning about Naruto?

[rocci]

@turson
Better wait for the raw or tankobon version.

[Nostradamus]

 

Well it's not just Sakura. He's doing the same with his other characters too. He's doing the same with Naruto for example.

Sometimes Naruto seems to be a crack, and the time after he does something dumb. It's not the case everytime, but it's often the case.

I think Kishi just doesn't want his characters to be perfect because the manga is not done and they need to grow more 'til the end. IMO.

If characters had no flaws, then there would be nothing to evolve from.

 

Naruto had a seizure because of what Sakura has done, what Sai said, what Gaara said, and before everyone, what Tobi said. It was a lot too much for him, and saying it was because of his "boyfriend" Sasuke is exaggerated and caricatural IMO. It's true it was about Sasuke, but not alone. Naruto has been affected by Sakura's actions, by the truth coming from Tobi's mouth, by the fact that Gaara was against his opinion (because Naruto was not OK at all with what Gaara told him).

 

About Sakura, IMO, it's because he wants to make her evolve from Sasuke.

 

That time when she couldn't kill Sasuke... what you are saying makes me think you wanted her to kill him for real. That would have destroyed her character completely. Honestly. As an author, Kishi just couldn't do that. Naruto is saving her because Naruto is supposed to. All the story is about that. Naruto is supposed to save everything, and saving Sakura from Sasuke is a part of it.

 

IMO, that time with the two mini juubi, it was not that she couldn't have defeated them, she just didn't see them already. It was to build a team7 cooperation small moment, that's all. Nostalgia. The purpose at that time was not to downgrade Sakura. It was nostalgia and small team7 interaction. Again, what's wrong with being a medic ? I really don't understand. It's always presented like it's something downgrading. I'm happy she became a medic that good. I love when she fights too, but I think she was badass saving Naruto, even more badass than that time when she defeated Sasori with Chiyo.

 

I think you are disappointed because you prefer the fighting Sakura. And because of that, you think Kishimoto is doing bad with her character.
Where are the 80% failure ? 80% failure ? Really ? I don't see this. I see a normal girl that succeeded to almost attain the Hokage's level all by herself. Also, the manga is not ended yet. Sakura will evolve more obviously.

Yes he's doing something similar to Naruto and a lot of other characters. But never so much. With Naruto for example there's always a balance. He give him a good then a bad moment, then two good moments then one bad moment, then one good moment then two bad moments, etc. He finds a way to balance it.

 

With Sakura he give her one good moment then Kishi's Alzheimer's kicks in and he forgets what were Sakura's abilities, what she could do, how powerful was she, what she did before, who she was etc. and the following moments are really bad in comparacence. With Sakura there is no real balance, he gives her more bad moments than good ones. Most of the time he turns the good ones into bad ones within the same chapter.
 

Naruto fainted because he just couldn't face the truth. Sasuke was a loose cannon that needed to be put down. For everyone's sake. Sakura in that moment showed that she's a matured girl, a grown woman actually. And if Naruto is not man enough to do what is necessary, she will. Because that's how awesome she is.

 

Now it's no secret that I want Sasuke dead, I'm pretty sure everyone on this forum knows this. However I don't want Sakura to kill him. And let's be honest we already knew that Sakura wasn't going to kill Sasuke.

The problem with that moment is that considering that Sakura already made the decision that if Naruto wasn't going back to the village with her, she was going to Sasuke and kill him. When you take in consideration that she already thought about killing Sasuke. You would assume that she already came to terms with her feelings. And not stop at the last second to think about her feelings for the old Sasuke.

 

I'm sorry to say this but Kishi made her look pathetic. After showing how determined she was, how she didn't cry when she learned that the rookies decided to kill Sasuke, and the entire time she was only thinking about Naruto. How can she protect Naruto from all of this. The growth that she displayed was amazing. Only to end it with "Oh crap I still have feelings for the old Sasuke! And I can't do through with it."

That moment could've been done so much better.

 

And yes you are correct that moment was done in order to have a small Team 7 moment. However it was done at Sakura's price.

Also it's not that I prefer fighting Sakura although I do want her to fight along side Naruto.

I just want Kishi to stop screwing her in order to give us team 7 nostalgia or in order to show us something else. For example how powerful Madara became after getting the second Rinnegan. Or anything else for that matter. Find Sakura's balance.

 

I hope, no actually I pray that now that Naruto's husband left the show, that Naruto's wife (Sakura; or to be more precise future wife ) will actually be involved in with fight, even if she's not going to play a major part in it. At least have her come up with a strategy or have her realize Kaguya's weakness.

And not play the role of a commentator/spectator.

Edited by Nostradamus, 30 June 2014 - 09:28 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Thats pretty true, people tend to act like the last chapter they read is how the story is going to continue and that the characters are stuck in the state for the rest of the story.

Actually i've been focusing mostly on this arc because it's the conclusion of the story and for all the characters aswell, Sakura is reaching conclusion and what's being focused on this aspect is her feelings.
Mostly connected to romance subplot.
I think the most problem is that i understand that some people doesnt like critics but srsly there's need to label others as bashers just cuz they criticizes Sakura, one user told me i'm no better than Forneverworld a guy who has videos on youtube known by some posts here as someome who's constantly bashing Sakura.

There's a not a single post that can be labelled as Sakura bashing on my history otherwise i would've banned already but some users already labelled as that.
 

Admittedly I don't have a lot of respect for where Kishi is going but I don't judge Sakura- because when she does something SHE DOES it good. Kishi has messed up alot-- a major point being his continuous fanboying over Sasuke rather then focusing on his title character. It makes Naruto and by extension Sakura look pathetic not like heroes when they seem willing to sacrifice everything to drag an unwilling Sasuke around like a ragdoll.

It depends, if you're going to give Sakura a free pass because it's Kishimoto then it should be applied to other's aswell reaching the conclusion he's a bad writter and messed with his characters.
In my opinion is all about planning, i dont think he had something great planned for Sakura on this arc.
I feel like he wasnt kidding when he said he doesnt know how to make heroines.
I think that putting Sasuke as the center of everything was a hidrance to his characters overall because it blocked all the plot points he could explore.
Naruto can only achieve his goals if he save Sasuke, Sakura can only be finished if Sasuke is saved.
 

Am I mad that she's less involved then she should be as a member of team 7 and a main character? of course, but then I look at how all the other women have been treated and by perspective its no longer a big deal. I don't get furious, I don't threaten to stop reading-- I  just accept it, ( After whining about it a bit) cling to the good parts and ride it out.

We're all mad because of it, no here even threated to stop reading the manga, aside from people telling me, and others to drop the manga because we're criticizing Sakura and other characters.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 June 2014 - 09:30 PM.