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[melovechoco]

Plus, i also want to see kakashi tells sakura as one of his student beside naruto and sasuke, at the same time, compliment about sakura development to minato especially when sakura gonna shows her new jutsu to save naruto's life..if gaara successfully brought them to their place.
Just imagine it. He will be amazed.although sakura might not be as strong as both her teammates, but kakashi still prefers sakura as one of his best student in his team.
This would change the reader perception about sakura through her sensei's saying about her to be normal as unique.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If they go to Minato, I could imagine more notes from him to Sakura. I agree with others, there must be a reason for Sakura to be part of this outside of Sakura interacting with Naruto's situation. I know there's a plan. It's no coincidence.

[Chatte]

If they go to Minato, I could imagine more notes from him to Sakura. I agree with others, there must be a reason for Sakura to be part of this outside of Sakura interacting with Naruto's situation. I know there's a plan. It's no coincidence.

 

It would be nice for her to be involved in more than this and for her to actually save Naruto's life, thanks to her for Naruto to be alive and for Kishi to put a really big emphasis on this, that it was thanks to her efforts that Naruto is alive, as well as her feelings.

And have several other characters praising her, like it happened with Hashirama when witnessing her power, as in Minato, Kakashi, Obito even, maybe... Gaara as well. 

It would be really, but really nice...

[Kster95]

Plus, i also want to see kakashi tells sakura as one of his student beside naruto and sasuke, at the same time, compliment about sakura development to minato especially when sakura gonna shows her new jutsu to save naruto's life..if gaara successfully brought them to their place.
Just imagine it. He will be amazed.although sakura might not be as strong as both her teammates, but kakashi still prefers sakura as one of his best student in his team.
This would change the reader perception about sakura through her sensei's saying about her to be normal as unique.

 

Kakashi has time and time again said Sakura is talented but the haters dont care, they wont change. But still it will be nice. 

[六道仙人]

I even thought that Kurama told to Gaara to bring Naruto to Sasuke and make them the fusion being a single human, like rikudou sennin... gosh, DB's anamnesis still make effect to me now

[Kster95]

I even thought that Kurama told to Gaara to bring Naruto to Sasuke and make them the fusion being a single human, like rikudou sennin... gosh, DB's anamnesis still make effect to me now

 

lol

 

Fu - sion - HA!!!!!

 

Naruske

 

Sasuto

Edited by Kster95, 25 January 2014 - 04:16 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
It would be nice for her to be involved in more than this and for her to actually save Naruto's life, thanks to her for Naruto to be alive and for Kishi to put a really big emphasis on this, that it was thanks to her efforts that Naruto is alive, as well as her feelings.
And have several other characters praising her, like it happened with Hashirama when witnessing her power, as in Minato, Kakashi, Obito even, maybe... Gaara as well. 
It would be really, but really nice...

The point is that she's there now, not Tsunade. A healing is all it needs, then why not just get Tsunade. If more, then there's a reason. We don't know what's more to come for Naruto/Sakura, but it's coming close to know. That and why have Naruto going through this if it can be solved in a matter of one chapter? We will soon know.

[melovechoco]

sakura haters are blinded by the coolness of sakura...I guess..am I wrong?

Edited by melovechoco, 25 January 2014 - 05:12 PM.

[MangaReader]

Wow, this thread moves fast... 

 

Anyway, I can agree that hate for Sakura runs strong for absolutely no other reason then likely pairing fodder at this point. I mean lets just forget main heroin status right now, Sakura still has better feats in this manga then any other female character other then Tsunade (and even then, Sakura's done some stuff Tsunade hasn't done). Hinata has nothing going for her in the manga, her feats are minimal, despite this, she's somehow claimed to be more useful then Sakura. At this point though, it futile to even try and communicate with these haters, because nothing we say will change them, even if Kishi flat out came and said Sakura is the strongest Kunoichi

[Atheck]

Wow, this thread moves fast... 
 
Anyway, I can agree that hate for Sakura runs strong for absolutely no other reason then likely pairing fodder at this point. I mean lets just forget main heroin status right now, Sakura still has better feats in this manga then any other female character other then Tsunade (and even then, Sakura's done some stuff Tsunade hasn't done). 

 
Konan was able to part the sea surrounding Amegakure with her chakra alone. Her 600 billion paper tag explosion forced Tobi's hand at a time when you could boast about landing a blow on him and it lasted for several minutes. It's probably the most destructive usage of standard ninja weaponry in the manga. 
 
Kushina was able to restrain a fully powered Kurama and erect a barrier that was impossible to breach for Hiruzen. She may not have much in the way of combat feats but she does warrant credit for being able to perform a feat that was almost impossible for SM Naruto. 
 
Sakura shouldn't be underestimated, but there are more characters who've arguably outperformed her than just Tsunade. Moreover, all of her current abilities and training originated from the Slug Princess. All she had before her instruction were basic shinobi skills and techniques that an academy student could perform.
 

Hinata has nothing going for her in the manga, her feats are minimal, despite this, she's somehow claimed to be more useful then Sakura. At this point though, it futile to even try and communicate with these haters, because nothing we say will change them, even if Kishi flat out came and said Sakura is the strongest Kunoichi

 

She's more useful when it comes to scouting and reconnaissance. Although her susceptibility to distractions and hesitancy to act when out in the field does make her look incompetent next to Sakura. Hinata also has the feat of being able to deflect one of the Jubi's Mokuton stakes going for her when Sakura required Kakashi to haul her away as the barrage was coming at her. It flies in the face of what Tsunade's training specifically instilled into her about avoiding oncoming attacks though. I don't know if that was Kishi's way of making Sakura appear like a damsel in distress or if she really lacks the skills necessary to survive on her own. 

[catsi563]

After reading this chapter I remain where I was when Taka was introduced so long ago.

Sasukarin and NaruSaku in the end after some fashion.

[Broken Figurine]

This chapter to me reinforces 'pairing moments' versus 'romantic moments'; and how the former impacts the latter when I read it. I am going to be upfront, I am with those who think that SasuKarin is a terrible pairing. I don't care how much Sasuke may have 'shown' his hidden feelings of love in his few actions that have been positive toward her, her love of him boiled down to she was saved by a bear once, she fell in love with her 'hero' and then fangirled over him most of the time in a comedic light (yes, yes she did) and her few serious moments with him came to a climax when he stabbed her. The difference to how Sakura took it and how Karin is taking it, is that we continuously see Sakura being upset or wary of Sasuke--she says she trusts him, but she's riding off of nostalgia's coat-tails much like Naruto is. When it comes to Sasuke, everyone who had been important in his life is almost desperately trying to cling to him and he's not giving much justification as to why. You want to talk double standards? Why do we insist that Sakura should move on from Sasuke, but SasuKarin fans feel that this is something that is positive for Karin? 

 

I don't fault her for being upset that the person she loves is dying. It's just... sad to think that they'd be an endgame pairing. For me, the parallel isn't with NaruSaku but with NaruHina, but they're the even worse example. Because I don't question why Hinata loves Naruto. Naruto has shown many positive qualities, and he's never been harmful to Hinata at least not directly. Hinata and Karin both admire their love interests, but their love interests aren't alike. They've both had scenes where said love interest showed some compassion toward them, but not all moments are equal, and when you take them as a whole I examine both and they're not persuasive enough for me to believe this has been a pairing nearly as developed as NaruSaku, or even one that would convince me they make a good 'couple'. 

 

Kishimoto can make any pairing a romantic one. He can throw in any romantic moment. But we would look at the moments that came before, romantic or platonic, and judge for ourselves if this is right. We all interpret scenes and moments differently, but much as I argue against SasuSaku, or NaruHina, I also argue against SasuKarin and do not care that it eliminates 'the other competition'. I don't ship that way. I can choose to focus on the anthill of positive interaction between SasuKarin and speculate the elaborate schemes beneath, but then I'd be ignoring the mountain of issues. Kishimoto made a huge mistake in portraying Karin as comedic after she had been stabbed. Sakura hadn't been portrayed this way. Karin's love for Sasuke should have been just as confusing, and hard to take as Sakura's was/is, and we should have seen more reason as to why she can't get over him. 

 

I understand people being in love with the potential, and favouring certain scenes in hopes that it will be the 'end game'. All pairing fandoms have this alike. SasuKarin fans, I am sure that you can create better scenarios for the pairing; better arguments and justifications for how Karin is acting and how Sasuke is acting, then the manga has for me and some other people. But I admit, I have a really hard time seeing how this pairing is positive for Karin, and why Sasuke should even have a love interest. As Nate a few (or more) pages back; it's like we had the contrast of the best developed and worst developed pairing. Only SasuSaku at this point may be 'worse', but they had decent scenes in Part 1 at least and their pairing being treated seriously even in its derailment. SasuKarin is being treated seriously now, with Karin's crying over Sasuke, but the moments that came before and the general growth(?) of their pairing does not support this scene like NaruSaku's half does. 

 

Sure, it may happen. Kishimoto can be setting this up, and I'm not going to pretend it isn't convenient to have a pairing between Uzumaki and Uchiha with Sasuke's new goal of creating his own village--almost as a parallel to how Konoha was founded, but it's unfortunate for Karin. Unfortunate, because just like with the scene of Hinata running, it shows in the face of the situations around her, her love for Sasuke trumps rationale. She may have had scenes with him, generally of her worrying over him (a common trend between the female love interests) but I will always insist, similar is not equal.

 

"But she argues against him; she has a backbone!" <-- Sakura has been doing this in spades in Part 2 with a lot more serious tones than Karin, and Hinata has recently 'slapped' Naruto into recognition and inspired him into a speech. This is not unique to Karin, and a lot of good it did her after he stabbed her >.> Where's her self-respect? In the middle of a war she was reduced to fangirling over him, and it was awkward and disrespectful to her growth before hand.

 

"He cares for her." <-- Like he does for Naruto, Sakura, Team Taka...? Sasuke is a very troubled character, and time and time again he throws a bone in terms of 'caring' for someone, only to go in the opposite direction. It's not a matter of "he stabbed Sakura twice and Karin once", it's that... he stabbed them. He betrayed whatever friendship and care he had for them, and he hasn't made it up. It's always the other party making excuses for him. That's a whole lot of unfortunate implication... 

 

"Her love for him is genuine." <-- So has Sakura's been represented toward Sasuke, and Hinata's to Naruto's. The problem is, it's misguided. Its unsubstantiated--no, saving her the once, the twice, is not enough. Sasuke has saved Sakura in the past. Naruto has saved a whole bunch of people. Sakura healed Karin >.> I know, moments are not equal as I was arguing, and maybe Karin's 'saved' moments with Sasuke have been more substantial. Depends on how you take it, but there are substantial issues I cannot get over. They haven't added up enough, and Karin needs to move on just like Sakura needs to, just like Hinata needs to. Except, it doesn't seem that she will. How sad for her.

[FireFox]

So i have heard that there is NaruSasku podcast going on today can anyone tell me were to go to watch it thanks.

[Hiraishin]

@Broken Figurine bless you. awesome post, I agree with everything you said.

[BlueStarSaber]

So i have heard that there is NaruSasku podcast going on today can anyone tell me were to go to watch it thanks.

 

Here http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gF67thfCkrs

[TouKen4Life3g]

So i have heard that there is NaruSasku podcast going on today can anyone tell me were to go to watch it thanks.

It will be uploaded to:

Www.youtube.com/jamesscassidy

[FireFox]

 

Here http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gF67thfCkrs

 

It will be uploaded to:

Www.youtube.com/jamesscassidy

Thank you guys , so is it last only 31:11 minutes or there is more to be uploaded ?

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Thank you guys , so is it last only 31:11 minutes or there is more to be uploaded ?

There's much more. That one you're referring is probably the blooper one.

[James S Cassidy]

 

Thank you guys , so is it last only 31:11 minutes or there is more to be uploaded ?

Go here
http://www.youtube.c...feature=mh_lolz

[MangaReader]

 
Konan was able to part the sea surrounding Amegakure with her chakra alone. Her 600 billion paper tag explosion forced Tobi's hand at a time when you could boast about landing a blow on him and it lasted for several minutes. It's probably the most destructive usage of standard ninja weaponry in the manga. 
 
Kushina was able to restrain a fully powered Kurama and erect a barrier that was impossible to breach for Hiruzen. She may not have much in the way of combat feats but she does warrant credit for being able to perform a feat that was almost impossible for SM Naruto. 
 
Sakura shouldn't be underestimated, but there are more characters who've arguably outperformed her than just Tsunade. Moreover, all of her current abilities and training originated from the Slug Princess. All she had before her instruction were basic shinobi skills and techniques that an academy student could perform.

Let me rephrase that... Living Female Character. Sakura literally owned a city block (maybe a little smaller then that) of the Ten Tails miniature separation creatures with a Single Punch.

 

 

 

She's more useful when it comes to scouting and reconnaissance. Although her susceptibility to distractions and hesitancy to act when out in the field does make her look incompetent next to Sakura. Hinata also has the feat of being able to deflect one of the Jubi's Mokuton stakes going for her when Sakura required Kakashi to haul her away as the barrage was coming at her. It flies in the face of what Tsunade's training specifically instilled into her about avoiding oncoming attacks though. I don't know if that was Kishi's way of making Sakura appear like a damsel in distress or if she really lacks the skills necessary to survive on her own. 

I think you failed to realize the big picture here is Hinata fans over-glorify her, branding her the most useful female character of the current bunch while label Sakura as useless regardless of what she does. Sakura has defeated character onscreen, Hinata has got her ass handed to her every time.