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[Chatte]

Enter Two-Face!

But seriously, that is a good question. Actually, I think we see a glimpse on how he feels if he fails to protect back in confronting Itachi's genjutsu. If you remember the genjutsu, it's all about everything he fears the most and Team 7 were part of it. He felt like the world ended for him. Also, when Naruto found out he hurt Sakura when he became 4-tails, he was deep shocked. His most important people in the world may be those 4 (Iruka and Team 7), but I do believe the one that holds a lot to him are Sasuke and Sakura, probably because they are in his age and can relate more. I sometimes feel like even though he's happy that Sakura is with him, he is scared of her going into something danger, hence don't tell Sakura that he got beat up for not telling about Sasuke. I feel that even though he accepted that people are ready to sacrifice their lives for him, he doesn't want them to die still, case in point Sakura. If Sakura feels motivated after witnessing Hinata talking about not giving up, she will persuade to do something together with Naruto, but Naruto may blab out that he doesn't want to lose her, or else he really might not recover. Look at him passing out with Sasuke becoming "impossible" to return. This moment can happen now or before the final battle of Sasuke.

Yes, he went hyperventilating back in the days because of Sasuke. And that was because he was just considered a criminal, not because he was about to die or something like this. That's when I started to ask myself... what if? And when ObiRin parallel came in, that was just the blow.
He was challenged via Sasuke in the old days (Zabuza and Haku arc), Pein Arc with Jiraiya, Kakashi, Hinata, the villagers, now with Neji's death. These were all deaths that had a bond of friendship. I don't care what NH fans think, she represents a friend to him, nothing more. However, Sakura IS his loved one.
So, now he's learning how it is to lose a friend, so on and so forth. Like someone said here, this Neji thing and resolution might be a preparation for Naruto's mental state if Sasuke dies in the end.
But we always see that his maturity, darkness, ego, however you want to call it, it's challenged. And I find it suspicious (or maybe I'm thinking too much into it) that particularly exactly this "subject" wasn't touched. Killing his love interest. OR ar least, hurting it very badly.
How would Naruto react? Will hatred conquer him again? Will his pshyche break down again? I am very intrigued by this to be honest, and knowing Kishi, I am quite amazed he hasn't touched this, to be honest. In my opinion, as I said, this would be the ultimate challenge to his growth.
But who knows, maybe Kishi will touch it, in the end. I would really like to see something like this, to be honest.

Edited by Chatte, 22 January 2013 - 12:45 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

One thing is sure: Kakashi will say the story from his perspective since even Naruto told him that he will tell his story after (the battle?)

Anyway your prediction is nice and I very hope Kishi will do something like that... Because honestly NH isn't absolutely similar to ObitoRin

Thank you. That NH/OR ship has sailed if you asked me. I actually image once that may happen before 616, but again, Kishi failed to do so. It's up for grabs. I would like Kuruma to make a comment on Sakura. I always image this in my head for jokes:

Naruto: Kuruma!
Kuruma: ?
*Kuruma controls Naruto*
Sakura: Is that...Kyuubi?
Kuruma: Y-yes. This kid wants me to say sorry for hurting you
Sakura: !
Kuruma: So...Sorry...ok?
*Sakura smiles and then punch him hard*
Sakura: Yosh, now we're even.
Naruto: Sakura-chan, it's still me...

One wish from me was to have Obito vs. Team 7 but I don't think it's possible, unless the plan is to remove them, but we'll see.

[James S Cassidy]

But I just don't think Kishimoto is going to make Naruto verbally let her down, simply because Kishimoto shies away from making Naruto do those bad things. If Naruto were to do that — personally, verbally reject her — then a good chunk of the fans would not like him.

This is what is really bothering me at the moment. You guys are inferring that it needs a resolution, but Naruto can NOT verbally tell Hinata "No" for whatever reason.

So what kind of resolution is needed?

It seems like now NH has to be canon simply because Naruto cannot say no because he is too nice and that Hinata is too fragile.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes, he went hyperventilating back in the days because of Sasuke. And that was because he was just considered a criminal, not because he was about to die or something like this. That's when I started to ask myself... what if? And when ObiRin parallel came in, that was just the blow.
He was challenged via Sasuke in the old days (Zabuza and Haku arc), Pein Arc with Jiraiya, Kakashi, Hinata, the villagers, now with Neji's death. These were all deaths that had a bond of friendship. I don't care what NH fans think, she represents a friend to him, nothing more. However, Sakura IS his loved one.
So, now he's learning how it is to lose a friend, so on and so forth. Like someone said here, this Neji thing and resolution might be a preparation for Naruto's mental state if Sasuke dies in the end.
But we always see that his maturity, darkness, ego, however you want to call it, it's challenge. And I find it suspicious (or maybe I'm thinking too much into it) that particularly exactly this "subject" wasn't touched. Killing his love interest. OR ar least, hurting it very badly.
How would Naruto react? Will hatred conquer him again? Will his pshyche break down again? I am very intrigued by this to be honest, and knowing Kishi, I am quite amazed he hasn't touched this, to be honest. In my opinion, as I said, this would be the ultimate challenge to his growth.
But who knows, maybe Kishi will touch it, in the end. I would really like to see something like this, to be honest.

My point is that Naruto is afraid of bad things happening to Sasuke and Sakura. Sasuke being a criminal is awful to Naruto and Sakura giving up on Team 7 coming back hurts him too. I believe what Yamato said is pretty much sum up Naruto's main importance (rescuing Sasuke and protecting Sakura), when it comes to relationship. Sakura is in the battlefield. Let's see what you said can happen here or not.

[Chatte]

My point is that Naruto is afraid of bad things happening to Sasuke and Sakura. Sasuke being a criminal is awful to Naruto and Sakura giving up on Team 7 coming back hurts him too. I believe what Yamato said is pretty much sum up Naruto's main importance (rescuing Sasuke and protecting Sakura), when it comes to relationship. Sakura is in the battlefield. Let's see what you said can happen here or not.

I know I know, heh. I pretty much wait forward to this thing, to see if it happens or not.

[Qia]

My point is that Naruto is afraid of bad things happening to Sasuke and Sakura. Sasuke being a criminal is awful to Naruto and Sakura giving up on Team 7 coming back hurts him too. I believe what Yamato said is pretty much sum up Naruto's main importance (rescuing Sasuke and protecting Sakura), when it comes to relationship. Sakura is in the battlefield. Let's see what you said can happen here or not.

This may be REALLY stretching things, but those lines got me thinking....Do you think this has anything to do with the way Naruto communicated with her as soon as she arrived? Like...basically telling her to heal Kakashi, which sort of seemed out of place to me and strange because she knows what to do better than he does. Or maybe it was a normal thing to other people Idk . I just thought it was a little out of hand. And then, she hasn't exactly been given Kyuubi's chakra yet either. Did he do that to keep her out of the way, or? What do you think? I'm probably thinking too much into it.

[Zatheko]

Thank you. That NH/OR ship has sailed if you asked me. I actually image once that may happen before 616, but again, Kishi failed to do so. It's up for grabs. I would like Kuruma to make a comment on Sakura. I always image this in my head for jokes:

Naruto: Kuruma!
Kuruma: ?
*Kuruma controls Naruto*
Sakura: Is that...Kyuubi?
Kuruma: Y-yes. This kid wants me to say sorry for hurting you
Sakura: !
Kuruma: So...Sorry...ok?
*Sakura smiles and then punch him hard*
Sakura: Yosh, now we're even.
Naruto: Sakura-chan, it's still me...

One wish from me was to have Obito vs. Team 7 but I don't think it's possible, unless the plan is to remove them, but we'll see.

Haha that would be so great! I can actually see that happening to lol.

[fireandice]

This is what is really bothering me at the moment. You guys are inferring that it needs a resolution, but Naruto can NOT verbally tell Hinata "No" for whatever reason.

So what kind of resolution is needed?

It seems like now NH has to be canon simply because Naruto cannot say no because he is too nice and that Hinata is too fragile.

imo the "I'm going to stop chasing you once and for all" is the perfect opener Kishi has to have Hinata let go of Naruto.

As some others have stated, yes, I know Hinata DIDN'T mean it in the sense that she would give up on him, but meant that she would instead be his equal and by his side- and her "holding your hand, walking with you" was quite obviously romantic.

But the fact that Kishi used that specific wording, and Hinata did get to hold Naruto's hand and "walk with him" (e.g helping him fight against the Juubi) looks to me like a pretty convenient way to let Hinata gets what she want without NH becoming Canon.

Imo I question how much Hinata is really in love with the real Naruto, because she doesn't actually know him. She didn't know about the Fox, she didn't talk to him much in the manga itself. I have always got the sense that her love for Naruto was similar to Sakura's for Sasuke in Part 1- a sort of adulatory kind of infatuation with an IMAGE they've built of their crush. She's so in love with what Naruto stands for...but it's not quite HIM. In Part 1, I got the sense that there was also the wanting to prove herself to her father.

I don't know, while she's gotten bolder in Part 2, on some level I can't help but feel her character has regressed with her obsession with Naruto that imo compares to Sakura's tunnel vision of Sasuke in Part 1.

In Part 2, every single panel she is in, she is thinking "NARUTO-KUN". Even when she's with her teammates. Maybe I have remembered wrongly, but in Part 2 I don't ever recall a panel of her expressing concern for anyone other than Naruto (other than that Hyuuga clan member who injured himself in the Pain arc I think).

The arc where they were chasing Sasuke? She keeps yelling Naruto and getting distracted even when Naruto's OBVIOUSLY in no danger =_____= and Sakura has to remind her to focus.

437? Again, her tunnel vision for Naruto leads to her doing something that is incredibly reckless and easily disastrous if it weren't for Minato. If she REALLY wanted to help, wouldn't it be better to have found some other ninja to help make a diversion? Again, maybe she wasn't thinking, which exactly shows how her obsession with Naruto makes her do stupid things. I guess Sakura did something similar with 4T Naruto, but at least they were in the middle of nowhere, and she was hoping he would recognise her and come back to consciousness.

Chap 559 when Naruto comes back up the ppl fighting the Zetsu clones and Edo Tensei? Hinata has to go regress and think "Maybe I really am no good...the one person I want to protect the most always ends up protecting me." I mean ARGHHHHH. Can't she understand Naruto is like crazily powerful because of the Kyuubi? Nope, Naruto has to cheer her up again.

The path to radiance...all she thinks of is Naruto AGAIN romantically. Not even a single like, "I want to do my father proud" "I will fight as well as Neji-nii-san" or any thoughts of her team. I mean, yes, everybody was thinking of Naruto too, but like Ino, they were thinking more in the context of the war and how they needed to help him. And speaking of Ino- she and Tenten, for instance, were also thinking of other people like Inoichi and Gai.

Gai-sensei and Kakashi obviously BLEEDING all over the place after getting attacked by Obito and Madara? Nope, NARUTO-KUN!! , when he was totally the most uninjured of the three!

I'm sorry, this ended up longer than I wanted, and sounded kind of anti-Hinata... Yes, I prefer NaruSaku, but I wouldn't mind Hinata's crush on Naruto that much if it didn't keep on weakening her character. I was pretty annoyed that she thought of Naruto's hand instead of a single thought about how her cousin...you know, died for her.

Edited by fireandice, 22 January 2013 - 01:25 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This may be REALLY stretching things, but those lines got me thinking....Do you think this has anything to do with the way Naruto communicated with her as soon as she arrived? Like...basically telling her to heal Kakashi, which sort of seemed out of place to me and strange because she knows what to do better than he does. Or maybe it was a normal thing to other people Idk . I just thought it was a little out of hand. And then, she hasn't exactly been given Kyuubi's chakra yet either. Did he do that to keep her out of the way, or? What do you think? I'm probably thinking too much into it.

You know, that's possible. Naruto right-a-way told Sakura to heal Kakashi first. It felt somewhat odd because Naruto didn't even look back. He ignored everyone else and continue to talk to Obito. It's like this:

Naruto: Hey! You think you can defeat me? You think you can change the world with an illusion? You think I'm done? Wrong! Because I am not alone! I am- Hey Sakura-chan, heal Kakashi-Sensei first, ok? Thanks. - I am the future Hokage! I will not give up!

Strange, right?

Haha that would be so great! I can actually see that happening to lol.

Lol I know right. It's so like Kishi's style too. I do wonder if there's anything comment from Kuruma on Sakura.

[Chatte]

You know, that's possible. Naruto right-a-way told Sakura to heal Kakashi first. It felt somewhat odd because Naruto didn't even look back. He ignored everyone else and continue to talk to Obito. It's like this:

Naruto: Hey! You think you can defeat me? You think you can change the world with an illusion? You think I'm done? Wrong! Because I am not alone! I am- Hey Sakura-chan, heal Kakashi-Sensei first, ok? Thanks. - I am the future Hokage! I will not give up!

Strange, right?

In-between don't forget to add the "hey" to everyone, when Kiba supposedly teased him with Hinata.
But yeah, it's quite strange, heh.

[Qia]

You know, that's possible. Naruto right-a-way told Sakura to heal Kakashi first. It felt somewhat odd because Naruto didn't even look back. He ignored everyone else and continue to talk to Obito. It's like this:

Naruto: Hey! You think you can defeat me? You think you can change the world with an illusion? You think I'm done? Wrong! Because I am not alone! I am- Hey Sakura-chan, heal Kakashi-Sensei first, ok? Thanks. - I am the future Hokage! I will not give up!

Strange, right?

With the way I read that, it was more amusing than anything. Like, he's "acting all tough" because the alliance finally decides to show, then without turning around he tells Sakura to heal Kakashi. Like...really? And then he goes back to being all "we are the shinobi alliance".

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Chatte, I completely agree with you. That's exactly the reason why I'm rooting for the ObiRin parallel to be connected through Sakura dying. It's one of the ultimate challenges Naruto would have to face. I don't really want Sakura to die and seeing her in that state will immediately set me on panic overdrive. "Oh no! My 2nd favorite character is dead! This is terrible!". Logically, of course, I know she won't stay dead, but I'd still be very worried.

615 was just such a trainwreck for me on Naruto's character development, seeing him come back from Sakura's death by himself seems flawless. It totally redeems him completely, 616 only helped a little. Besides, I don't see how it's possible for Naruto to talk no jutsu Obito unless he goes through the death of a loved one. How would Obito turn good and listen if, in his eyes, Naruto still can't understand his pain?

Is this really how Hinata is? A fragile flower that you can't say "No" to otherwise she will break? That is a horrible horrible character if this is how the entire fanbase sees her. If that is true, I hate her even more now.

The bolded you mentioned here is so....ugh. I mean if that is true, if she is THAT fragile, then NH HAS to become canon simply because people pity her and she can't live without Naruto. She is not strong enough or confident enough to figure things out for herself; She is too dumb to know when she isn't needed or wanted and She is too blind to know that she might be a hindrance rather than an asset. She has to be lead through life by the hand just to have purpose.

That gives even less reason for NH to be canon simply because Hinata would be a bigger burden on Naruto. Girls who cannot be self-reliant are the biggest pains in the world. No offense to the females of the group, but I am sure even you know how pathetic it is.

"Naruto can't say "no" to Hinata because it might break her." Is what it seems like.

Not saying you are wrong RomanG, but merely saying that if anything you said here is true, then Hinata is by far the weakest character in the whole series who can't even stand on her own two feet. She can't be that pathetic, can she? Really? Wow, I really do hate her more now. I hate to talk bad about a character, but Hinata is....just so bad. She is even giving Shy-girls a bad name. I can't even describe. I really hope you're wrong about this one, RomanG.

I wonder if this is not really what she is, but what her fanbase make her out to be. Her fanbase just makes her look so bad, it hurts.

*sighs* I don't know anymore. I just want NS to be canon and for Hinata to be out of the picture now. Hinata seems to be causing more problems than solving them.

The Hinata fanbase/NaruHina fandom really does come off as viewing her as "fragile glass". Why do you think they pity her so badly and always want everything good to come her way, including Naruto? If Naruto's avoiding her confession because afraid of hurting her feelings, then it implies that even Naruto himself sees her as utterly emotionally breakable. That's not a very flattering light to have, especially for a potential love interest.

Well, if want an answer to that, I'll share with you a comment on Youtube I saw over the shippings: "Let Lee have Sakura. Hinata obviously loves Naruto more than her own life." --> 12 likes. Maybe it's my bias causing me to not take things the right way, but I have no trouble at all seeing Hinata emotionally fragile. She's proved it over and over with her insecurity and unconfident persona, why is her lovey dovey feelings any different?

I truly don't care about Hinata, I'm almost to the point where I actually dislike her. She's so bland and unimpressive. Not trying to bash, but everytime I see her unconfident, shy ways ... it's just "Really? Can't you have a more backbone-type personality?". Why do you think I love Sakura so much? She's the complete opposite of Hinata in every way possible.

The way I see it, true Hinata fans should not support her love for Naruto. She could be so much more than what she is. You can literally describe Hinata's character in one sentence: "A Hyuga who loves Naruto and wants to be acknowledged by him." That's her character in a nutshell. It is absolutely pathetic. Hinata's personality reminds me of the way I was up until 6th grade: shy, too nice, invisible, always wanting a guy to acknowledge me, couldn't even talk to my crush without freezing up. I hated the way I was. It wasn't until Junior High that I became more outspoken, blunt, and even developed a slight temper. Hinata reminds me of me sometimes, the way I was ... of course I'm not going to like or support her for that.

Bolded: Sadly, that's very much the impression I get myself. Hinata is so heavily Naruto-centric, most of her fanbase root for her to be with him because she shows nothing else that she wants more than him. It's sad. You constantly praise and love her to bits, claiming she would be a better heroine than Sakura ( is all I can say), yet you say "Hinata can't live without Naruto! She needs to be with him." Do they not realize how contradictory this is? If a character revolves strictly around romance with another and has almost nothing else to define them, it makes them a terribly bad character. I don't like characters who aren't any deeper than who they love. And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone else would like a character like that either.

I wish I am wrong. But the way the fanbase acts says differently. I can't help sighing everytime I see Hinata fans cling to Kishimoto saying that in an interview Hinata would be a better heroine than Sakura. Not only did he say the opposite of that, it's just ... the logic.

EDIT: NaruSaku4Life, that made me lol. Naruto acting all tough and then suddenly telling Sakura to heal Kakashi instead of him.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 22 January 2013 - 01:38 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

In-between don't forget to add the "hey" to everyone, when Kiba supposedly teased him with Hinata.
But yeah, it's quite strange, heh.

I always feel like he said hey to Obito, but meh, it still happened before Kiba say anything and completely ignores everything until Sakura-chan shows up, and then, continues to talk to Obito. Man, I can't wait for these two get together again.

[fireandice]

I truly don't care about Hinata, I'm almost to the point where I actually dislike her. She's so bland and unimpressive. Not trying to bash, but everytime I see her unconfident, shy ways ... it's just "Really? Can't you have a more backbone-type personality?". Why do you think I love Sakura so much? She's the complete opposite of Hinata in every way possible.

The way I see it, true Hinata fans should not support her love for Naruto. She could be so much more than what she is. You can literally describe Hinata's character in one sentence: "A Hyuga who loves Naruto and wants to be acknowledged by him." That's her character in a nutshell. It is absolutely pathetic. Hinata's personality reminds me of the way I was up until 6th grade: shy, too nice, invisible, always wanting a guy to acknowledge me, couldn't even talk to my crush without freezing up. I hated the way I was. It wasn't until Junior High that I became more outspoken, blunt, and even developed a slight temper. Hinata reminds me of me sometimes, the way I was ... of course I'm not going to like or support her for that.

Bolded: Sadly, that's very much the impression I get myself. Hinata is so heavily Naruto-centric, most of her fanbase root for her to be with him because she shows nothing else that she wants more than him. It's sad. You constantly praise and love her to bits, claiming she would be a better heroine than Sakura ( is all I can say), yet you say "Hinata can't live without Naruto! She needs to be with him." Do they not realize how contradictory this is? If a character revolves strictly around romance with another and has almost nothing else to define them, it makes them a terribly bad character. I don't like characters who aren't any deeper than who they love. And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone else would a character like that either.

I wish I am wrong. But the way the fanbase acts says differently. I can't help sighing everytime I see Hinata fans cling to Kishimoto saying that in an interview Hinata would be a better heroine than Sakura. Not only did he say the opposite of that, it's just ... the logic.

*STANDING OVATION*

Yes, this is exactly my problem with Hinata too. A number of fans make her out to be this perfect, kind epitome of everything, in comparison to the other Konoha girls, when in fact, she's flawed in being so OBSESSED with Naruto. Yes, liking Naruto is better than liking homicidal Sasuke, as he actually has something to admire.

BUT, a number of times, Hinata's Naruto obsession literally impedes her judgement and DISTRACTS her! I mean, it's become a weakness that negates her growing a backbone, because she doesn't seem to focus on anything else. What about her clan? Her sister? Her TEAM?

[tricksie]

Is this really how Hinata is? A fragile flower that you can't say "No" to otherwise she will break? That is a horrible horrible character if this is how the entire fanbase sees her. If that is true, I hate her even more now.

The bolded you mentioned here is so....ugh. I mean if that is true, if she is THAT fragile, then NH HAS to become canon simply because people pity her and she can't live without Naruto. She is not strong enough or confident enough to figure things out for herself; She is too dumb to know when she isn't needed or wanted and She is too blind to know that she might be a hindrance rather than an asset. She has to be lead through life by the hand just to have purpose.

That gives even less reason for NH to be canon simply because Hinata would be a bigger burden on Naruto. Girls who cannot be self-reliant are the biggest pains in the world. No offense to the females of the group, but I am sure even you know how pathetic it is.

"Naruto can't say "no" to Hinata because it might break her." Is what it seems like.

Not saying you are wrong RomanG, but merely saying that if anything you said here is true, then Hinata is by far the weakest character in the whole series who can't even stand on her own two feet. She can't be that pathetic, can she? Really? Wow, I really do hate her more now. I hate to talk bad about a character, but Hinata is....just so bad. She is even giving Shy-girls a bad name. I can't even describe. I really hope you're wrong about this one, RomanG.

I wonder if this is not really what she is, but what her fanbase make her out to be. Her fanbase just makes her look so bad, it hurts.

*sighs* I don't know anymore. I just want NS to be canon and for Hinata to be out of the picture now. Hinata seems to be causing more problems than solving them.

Wow. I don't think that's what RomanceGirl was saying at all. And that's a pretty extreme interpretation, but you're welcome to hate her.

This is what is really bothering me at the moment. You guys are inferring that it needs a resolution, but Naruto can NOT verbally tell Hinata "No" for whatever reason.

So what kind of resolution is needed?

It seems like now NH has to be canon simply because Naruto cannot say no because he is too nice and that Hinata is too fragile.

No one is saying NH has to be canon, and no one is saying she is sooooo fragile.

I already posted that I don't think Naruto will tell Hinata "no" because Kishimoto will not want to tarnish Naruto for any fans. NH or NS. Kishimoto writes ways out for him in a lot of sticky situations.

And I already posted that I think Hinata's storyline will be resolved on it's own, away from Naruto, specifically so Naruto doesn't have to give her a final resounding rejection.

More and more emphasis is being put on Hinata's character and development. Again, I don't think Kishimoto is just filling pages — I think he has some end game in mind, and that is to drive up the shipping tension until the end.

[Chatte]

Chatte, I completely agree with you. That's exactly the reason why I'm rooting for the ObiRin parallel to be connected through Sakura dying. It's one of the ultimate challenges Naruto would have to face. I don't really want Sakura to die and seeing her in that state will immediately set me on panic overdrive. "Oh no! My 2nd favorite character is dead! This is terrible!". Logically, of course, I know she won't stay dead, but I'd still be very worried.

615 was just such a trainwreck for me on Naruto's character development, seeing him come back from Sakura's death by himself seems flawless. It totally redeems him completely, 616 only helped a little. Besides, I don't see how it's possible for Naruto to talk no jutsu Obito unless he goes through the death of a loved one. How would Obito turn good and listen if, in his eyes, Naruto still can't understand his pain?

Mee too. And to be honest, I can see it happening. Kishi has been hinting at it, ever since. The ObiRin parallel only at the level of comradeship was made via Neji, but what about at the level of love? That can only be done via Sakura. And it would be the biggest challenge Naruto has faced in his entire life. And dare I say bigger than Sasuke's fight and die together type of thing. Because with Sasuke, his own impulsiveness will make him ok with things. Because Sasuke is his to fight.
However, Sakura... to him, Sakura has always been that fragile girl that needed protection, in his eyes, of course, and every scratch she gets, he goes nuts. What would happen if she gets killed? Because his stubborn impulsiveness won't help him. Sakura has been hurt. Period.
I feel that this scenario would get Naruto naked of all barriers he puts on as not letting himself get down by others. I feel that Sakura's death would be his ultimate vulnerability, the ultimate way to test him.
As for her getting killed, I am chill. I see at least one way of her getting revived. Rinnegan. And if things would go ok, Naruto matures, I see Obito sacrificing himself and get Sakura revived. This would also wrap up her name meaning, because we all know that Sakura trees means some sort of death, her protecting Naruto, Naruto having a resolution, Obito coming to a resolution as well, etc. All this with killing, but not killing Sakura, if you know what I mean.
I also feel that this is the only way he can understand Obito's pain. And I see Obito not stopping there in order to show Naruto what he means. And what other better way than attacking in his most vulnerable point?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Mee too. And to be honest, I can see it happening. Kishi has been hinting at it, ever since. The ObiRin parallel only at the level of comradeship was made via Neji, but what about at the level of love? That can only be done via Sakura. And it would be the biggest challenge Naruto has faced in his entire life. And dare I say bigger than Sasuke's fight and die together type of thing. Because with Sasuke, his own impulsiveness will make him ok with things. Because Sasuke is his to fight.
However, Sakura... to him, Sakura has always been that fragile girl that needed protection, in his eyes, of course, and every scratch she gets, he goes nuts. What would happen if she gets killed? Because his stubborn impulsiveness won't help him. Sakura has been hurt. Period.
I feel that this scenario would get Naruto naked of all barriers he puts on as not letting himself get down by others. I feel that Sakura's death would be his ultimate vulnerability, the ultimate way to test him.
As for her getting killed, I am chill. I see at least one way of her getting revived. Rinnegan. And if things would go ok, Naruto matures, I see Obito sacrificing himself and get Sakura revived. This would also wrap up her name meaning, because we all know that Sakura trees means some sort of death, her protecting Naruto, Naruto having a resolution, Obito coming to a resolution as well, etc. All this with killing, but not killing Sakura, if you know what I mean.
I also feel that this is the only way he can understand Obito's pain. And I see Obito not stopping there in order to show Naruto what he means. And what other better way than attacking in his most vulnerable point?

I've found it extremely possible for a while now. I only fully accepted it as a possibility when Obito brought up Rinne Tensei. Also, remember in 615? When Obito was giving his loneliness speech to Naruto and there was a flashback panel of him holding Rin? Ever since I first saw that, my thought was "ObiRin/NaruSaku connection through death" hint. Neji was a friendship bond, Obito will not be talk no jutsued by merely coming back from a friend's death. He got pissed and now seems even more determined to break Naruto, as if to justify what he's doing. Pretty much if Naruto turns dark by this, it assures Obito that he's doing the right thing.

100% true. The test of death of the girl you love is a big one. Naruto would chose differently than Obito, which would make Obito doubt what he's actually doing. 615 was just so, so bad ... Naruto's my ultimate favorite character. He really needs to redeem and prove himself again. Being brought back by Hinata (after being told several times his life isn't only one) is just not appealing. Do it on your own, Naruto. Prove yourself to the audience by coming back on your own.

If I thought Sakura wasn't coming back to life, there is no way in hell I would be supporting this. The information posted over her name is interestingly symbolic. I really feel like Kishimoto is dropping hints to this. It's just too specific. "Obito going dark by being unable to protect the girl he loves. A Naruto parallel." It's an obvious possibilty, I think. I'm sure the NH fans don't see this, just because this particular plotpoint involves romance. And boy, would they rage over Naruto's grief over Sakura dying.

Admittingly, I also like this idea a little 'cause I'm sometimes a sucker for drama and angst.

Tricksie, I was mostly referring to how others see Hinata as fragile glass. Even her own fanbase. So I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually like that, but I'm not saying Hinata truly is. Also, I don't hate her.

[Slextrem]

In regard to the possibility of Sakura being killed and brought back to life, I've noticed that some people seem to be forgetting that Obito isn't the only villain there. Should Sakura get killed in front of Naruto, it's possible that Obito will revive her in the end with Rinne Tensei, but it's also possible that Madara will stop him from doing so. He needs Rinne Tensei to be officially brought back to life. I doubt he would just stand there and let Obito waste his last chance at being revived on Sakura. Chances are, he would do something to interfere with the jutsu or kill Obito before he can even begin it, thus leaving Sakura permanently dead.

For this reason, I'm really hoping that Sakura does not end up dying for the sake of the parallel. I can't help but feel like this prediction will come true, should Obito go to revive her, and that would be awful. Unless, of course, someone strong enough shows up and distracts Madara... Good luck with that.

Edited by Slextrem, 22 January 2013 - 02:14 AM.

[pharix]

*STANDING OVATION*

Yes, this is exactly my problem with Hinata too. A number of fans make her out to be this perfect, kind epitome of everything, in comparison to the other Konoha girls, when in fact, she's flawed in being so OBSESSED with Naruto. Yes, liking Naruto is better than liking homicidal Sasuke, as he actually has something to admire.

BUT, a number of times, Hinata's Naruto obsession literally impedes her judgement and DISTRACTS her! I mean, it's become a weakness that negates her growing a backbone, because she doesn't seem to focus on anything else. What about her clan? Her sister? Her TEAM?

not to mention her overglorified confession could have gone a hell of a lot worse if not for Minato

[fireandice]

not to mention her overglorified confession could have gone a hell of a lot worse if not for Minato

Yes, that's a problem I have with people saying how selfless Hinata is for sacrificing herself. I mean even with Minato that was at least one Bijudama that missed the remnants of Konoha by LUCK.

It was stupid and reckless of her, really :S She really should have had some sort of plan for a diversion or something to buy Naruto time, instead of foolishly attempting to take Pain on directly, which she couldn't win at all.

That imo, is why Hinata's love for Naruto is bad for her character overall. On the positive side, it's made her bolder and encouraged her. But the negative side is that she seems to see only him and not even her other teammates. I would like her to be thinking of say, Neji, and the cage bird seal and how she might want to change that for the future of her clan. That would be a more positive and less reductionist manifestation of Naruto's "never give up" influence, and wanting to be Hokage.