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[lord287]

1. Fear of hurting him- this is obvious from 459 when Sai told her that the POAL was like a curse that was hurting Naruto and Sakura saw it as the one who gave him the burden and the pain. To hurt him again will crush her forever she might never forgive herself.

2. Her bond with Sasuke- we can see this clearly with hesitating to kill him, crying for him and 540 makes her to think of those old feelings when she used to be a fan girl fantasizing that he was the perfect, great guy.

3. Naruto himself- this is because Naruto doesn't want to admit that she has changed moving on from any romantic feelings towards Sasuke and is now in love with him, Also that he has shown that until he saves Sasuke and ends the war he won't be making a move on her (if he can have the courage to tell her his feelings, I doubt he will though).

I don't think the first point is much valid but the second and third points are very much valid! I fully agree that naruto can not admit that she has started to love him but to Naruto's defense I see he is right because he always witnessed sakura care for sasuke like hell and when she shows care towards him it is when he is unconsious or something like that!


I also have one more thing in my mind! When I was debating on another thread I made a statement where I said sakura confession can not be said as fake for sure(her confession might be true and might not be true) and i Got a good answer to it which really make me think that the confession was fake! The answer was that if sakura's confession was true than she wouldn't be having problem thinking about sasuke! She thought of sasuke in chapter 540(which might be anti-SS or anti-NS, I saw it as anti-NS) and if she had done the confession with true feelings she should not be having thoughts of moving on from sasuke later, because she would have already moved on if the confession was true!

What do u guys think about it??? I toallt think he got a point there and makes me feel like sakura's confession was indeed fake!

[TerrorKing]

I don't think the first point is much valid but the second and third points are very much valid! I fully agree that naruto can not admit that she has started to love him but to Naruto's defense I see he is right because he always witnessed sakura care for sasuke like hell and when she shows care towards him it is when he is unconsious or something like that!


I also have one more thing in my mind! When I was debating on another thread I made a statement where I said sakura confession can not be said as fake for sure(her confession might be true and might not be true) and i Got a good answer to it which really make me think that the confession was fake! The answer was that if sakura's confession was true than she wouldn't be having problem thinking about sasuke! She thought of sasuke in chapter 540(which might be anti-SS or anti-NS, I saw it as anti-NS) and if she had done the confession with true feelings she should not be having thoughts of moving on from sasuke later, because she would have already moved on if the confession was true!

What do u guys think about it??? I toallt think he got a point there and makes me feel like sakura's confession was indeed fake!

Sakura's confession was both fake and truthful at the same time. It was false because she claimed that she no longer had any feelings for Sasuke, but as we saw during her meeting with Sasuke and the lover nin scene, that wasn't true at all. However, it was also truthful because when she talked about how Naruto had always been there for her, she both looked and sounded very sincere. How does this coincide with her feelings for Sasuke? Well, in my opinon, it simply means that she's confused about her feelings. She has strong feelings for both Sasuke and Naruto and she doesn't quite know how to deal with them.

Why do I still have feelings for Sasuke?
Is there something wrong with me for having these feelings?
Should I stop caring about him? Can I?
Will doing so make me a bad person?
What about Naruto?
Do I really love him?
What if he doesn't love me anymore?
What if he hates me now?

These are all questions I would imagine Sakura asking herself right now. So no, Sakura is not sure about her feelings, but she most likely is confused about them. So really, the keyword here is "confused".

Hope that helps.

Edited by TerrorKing, 12 May 2012 - 09:05 PM.

[Don-kun]

I don't think the first point is much valid but the second and third points are very much valid! I fully agree that naruto can not admit that she has started to love him but to Naruto's defense I see he is right because he always witnessed sakura care for sasuke like hell and when she shows care towards him it is when he is unconsious or something like that!


I also have one more thing in my mind! When I was debating on another thread I made a statement where I said sakura confession can not be said as fake for sure(her confession might be true and might not be true) and i Got a good answer to it which really make me think that the confession was fake! The answer was that if sakura's confession was true than she wouldn't be having problem thinking about sasuke! She thought of sasuke in chapter 540(which might be anti-SS or anti-NS, I saw it as anti-NS) and if she had done the confession with true feelings she should not be having thoughts of moving on from sasuke later, because she would have already moved on if the confession was true!

What do u guys think about it??? I toallt think he got a point there and makes me feel like sakura's confession was indeed fake!

I bilieve that the someone else she .... is Naruto, she was happy about it and she never stated that there was someone else she loves, that will make a lot more sense, since Sakura feeling for Naruto are still not 100% clear or she still denail herself about it. But Sasuke image only came up because the love nin forced her to remember the old feeling she is trying to burie and let go but they still hunt her.

or

It will also make perfect sense that the someone else she .... with out stating (love) be Sasuke, because at this point she is not sure about her feeling for him at this point she is not even sure anymore if she loves him and Sasuke image only came up because the love nin forced her to remember the old feeling she is trying to burie and let go but they still hunt her.

The 1st option makes more sense and is more realistic, because it will be stupid to think that she feel the same way about Sasuke and happy about it whe Sasuke always makes her feel depressed, but she only get depressed when she was ask if he was a great man.
Honestly is doesn't make any sense to see Sakura stating proudly that the someone else is Sasuke.

Like many stated before look at the big picture, Naruto loves Sakura forget about Hinata and Sakura.
The day Naruto say that he dosn't love Sakura that's the day NS will be dead, it doesn't make any sense to make him do all the hard work and still not winning her heart at the end, it also don't make any sense that all of a sudden Naruto say that he loves Hinata, there has been zero development additionally there are not even close friends,
If it hurts him to see her hurts he wants to see Sakura happy and nothing will make him more happy if he is the one that makes her happy. Why make him a loser when he really likes her? Why?
Bisides Sakura is the only one that show that she may have deep romantic feelings for Naruto, Naruto hasn't shown any feeling for Hinata and Sasuke don't make me start.

Naruto and Hinata's relationship is all about Hinata's character growth.
Sakura and Sasuke's relationship is all about Sakura's character growth.
On the other hand...
Naruto and Sakura's relationship has always been about the development and growth those two have with each other. Unlike the previous two, this one has reciprocity between the two parties. Kishimoto probably chose to develop it that way in purpose.

I also want Sakura to learn that Naruto finds her forehead beautiful even if she thinks it's unattractive. Not because I think that will convince her to love Naruto, but because it's something that will bring a smile to her face. It will be a nice plus on Sakura's view of Naruto.

Fact of the matter is that out of the three main pairings (NH, SS, NS) NS is the only pairing to have been steadily developing.
All three pairings start out the same where we know that the one side loves the other but we're unclear on the other side.
But then look what happens. NH = 0 development. Nothing has happened. We know Hinata loves Naruto but Naruto never thinks about Hinata and there not even that close .
SS=this pairing has actually backpeddled. From going to being certain that Sakura loved Sasuke to being uncertain if she really does anymore. Sasuke has never given her a thought and if that wasn't enough, he tried to kill her. TWICE!!

NS= They are the only pairing that has been developing. From going to finding Naruto annoying Sakura has gone to respecting him, trusting him and they would both go through hell and back for eachother. There are just to many parallels, too many moments where Sakura has looked at Naruto in a way that surpasses close friendship,for this pairing not to happen.

If NS happen people can honestlly say that Sakura was showing signs of haven romantic feelings for Naruto. If NH and SS happen can you say the same especialy SS can you really say the same. NH and SS is only a Disney end created by studio pierrot not Kishimoto.

Plus all of your post are about 469 and 540 the same argument NH use over and over against NS, but what happen with all the rest of the Manga.

[kidNinja]

Like many stated before look at the big picture, Naruto loves Sakura forget about Hinata and Sakura.
The day Naruto say that he dosn't love Sakura that's the day NS will be dead, it doesn't make any sense to make him do all the hard work and still not winning her heart at the end, it also don't make any sense that all of a sudden Naruto say that he loves Hinata, there has been zero development additionally there are not even close friends,
If it hurts him to see her hurts he wants to see Sakura happy and nothing will make him more happy if he is the one that makes her happy. Why make him a loser when he really likes her? Why?
Bisides Sakura is the only one that show that she may have deep romantic feelings for Naruto, Naruto hasn't shown any feeling for Hinata and Sasuke don't make me start.







If NS happen people can honestlly say that Sakura was showing signs of haven romantic feelings for Naruto. If NH and SS happen can you say the same especialy SS can you really say the same. NH and SS is only a Disney end created by studio pierrot not Kishimoto.

Plus all of your post are about 469 and 540 the same argument NH use over and over against NS, but what happen with all the rest of the Manga.

The good news about that, is that they don't downplay NS. Also, can they make them end up together even if NS is canon in the manga? I don't see them doing such a thing, because Kishi likely wouldn't allow it, but it is possible.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I don't think the first point is much valid but the second and third points are very much valid! I fully agree that naruto can not admit that she has started to love him but to Naruto's defense I see he is right because he always witnessed sakura care for sasuke like hell and when she shows care towards him it is when he is unconsious or something like that!


I also have one more thing in my mind! When I was debating on another thread I made a statement where I said sakura confession can not be said as fake for sure(her confession might be true and might not be true) and i Got a good answer to it which really make me think that the confession was fake! The answer was that if sakura's confession was true than she wouldn't be having problem thinking about sasuke! She thought of sasuke in chapter 540(which might be anti-SS or anti-NS, I saw it as anti-NS) and if she had done the confession with true feelings she should not be having thoughts of moving on from sasuke later, because she would have already moved on if the confession was true!

What do u guys think about it??? I toallt think he got a point there and makes me feel like sakura's confession was indeed fake!

Knowing Sakura and how much she cares about Naruto's feelings, in 549, she was consumed with guilt and felt completely undeserving of Naruto("The fool's in love with me."). She's under the impression that all she has ever done for Naruto is cause him suffering and little things. In a slight way, it's true. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, though he never admits it and tries to hide it, does hurt him. He just cares too much about her feelings and wants her happiness so he deals with his pain in a very selfless way. That's my take on 549.

I myself can't really blame Naruto for thinking the way he did when Sakura confessed. Not only is he very bad at telling when someone likes him(Hinata being a perfect example), Naruto set up a protective wall around himself during the Promise of a Lifetime. While Naruto never actually tried to move on from her or truly give up on her loving him someday, he has difficulty truly believing that Sakura loves him, simply because he thought Sakura's heart belonged to Sasuke for so long. That confession really, to him, challenged everything he believed in(in more ways than one). He did see Sakura cry and care about Sasuke a lot(Naruto being Naruto sees romantic care in it) but Sakura also did the same for him many times in Part 2. He either never noticed these things and if he did, that protective barrier he has over himself tells him "Oh. Sakura doesn't like me like that. She's just a nice person." "The Promise of a Lifetime", though made a huge leap in Sakura's feelings, caused Naruto to set up a defense machanism when it comes to Sakura's feelings. Almost like he's protecting himself from getting his hopes up and having them crushed. That's why I think he so fervently says Sakura loves Sasuke.

Sakura's confession was a half lie and a half truth. She was in chaotic mess over her emotions, logic and her feelings fighting. Sakura was lying about Sasuke but she looked and sounded really sincere when saying she loved Naruto and explaining why. Her expression was forced but only when she mentioned Sasuke. And on top of that, she was furious when Naruto said she was lying to herself. Now explain that. Even Naruto looked suprised when she yelled at him. At the time of Sakura's confession, she was confused over her feelings and not ready to let go of her bond with Sasuke, let alone confess to Naruto that she loved him. She wasn't prepared for any of that. Next time she confesses, it would be better and she'd actually be ready.

Sakura does have problems thinking about Sasuke. She doesn't think of him with a dreamy smile and blushing, only shame, sadness, and disgust towards herself for still caring about Sasuke. She doesn't want to love a criminal and loving Naruto she still isn't sure if she does. Like I have said and many others, she conflicted between Naruto and Sasuke. She probably isn't even sure who she loves anymore. She'll figure it out eventually and I doubt she'll feel the same for Sasuke her whole life(I doubt she feels the same towards Sasuke now honestly). Main words Sakura and pairings: Confused and conflicted. Also, you do realize it's possible to love two people at the same time right?

[Master_Naruto]

I'm actually really not that bothered by how things seem to be going with NS. The bigger the hole that NS falls into only means that its going to have a pretty big moment to bring itself backup. Since its been a really long time since a legitimate NS moment, I have a feeling the next one/ones is going to be REALLY dramatic and awesome. We already know NS is going to happen, there's been way too much development for it not to. So be expecting something big soon, Kishi's gonna unleash the bomb.

[T XD]

I'm actually really not that bothered by how things seem to be going with NS. The bigger the hole that NS falls into only means that its going to have a pretty big moment to bring itself backup. Since its been a really long time since a legitimate NS moment, I have a feeling the next one/ones is going to be REALLY dramatic and awesome. We already know NS is going to happen, there's been way too much development for it not to. So be expecting something big soon, Kishi's gonna unleash the bomb.

that's the same thing i keep telling, an awesome moment is going to happen sooner or later. kishi is now not rushing in the story, he has planned for this and he's just delaying NS till later in the story, he's putting the big romantic part later in the manga, that's all

[Namaenash]

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I also have one more thing in my mind! When I was debating on another thread I made a statement where I said sakura confession can not be said as fake for sure(her confession might be true and might not be true) and i Got a good answer to it which really make me think that the confession was fake! The answer was that if sakura's confession was true than she wouldn't be having problem thinking about sasuke! She thought of sasuke in chapter 540(which might be anti-SS or anti-NS, I saw it as anti-NS) and if she had done the confession with true feelings she should not be having thoughts of moving on from sasuke later, because she would have already moved on if the confession was true!

What do u guys think about it??? I toallt think he got a point there and makes me feel like sakura's confession was indeed fake!

Based on the interview, Kishi did mention that he "felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression" (discussion link). When 540 came in, most of us thought that the confession was not true (because Sakura was thinking Sasuke, given the context). The problem with that panel is, I think it is not a standalone panel and it will be addressed in the future.

My personal take? Regardless. People need to appreciate Sakura's motivation, which is to protect Naruto and to relieve the burden she thought she gave Naruto with POAL. Sakura's action speaks louder than the confession. She's wiling to kill Sasuke to protect Naruto, while realizing that she might also be killed in the process. That's what is more important to me...

I'm more interested to understand why Kishimoto depicted the confession not from the start. We never knew what was the first sentence Sakura said to Naruto, what was the build up to the confession or what Sakura was thinking prior to saying her confession. Typically, when Kishimoto intends to show major events or strong messages that drives the plot, there's some build up and thought process that a character gone through before the character execute their action (it's all over the place in the manga).

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I think there could be several possibilities:

1. The confession will be addressed again in the future chapters, to build something more dramatic.
We have not got the panel where Naruto and Sakura talked about the confession scene, or any implication that they've come to mutual understanding on what happened that day. Hinata's greatest moment --her attempt to 'save' Naruto from Pein, followed by her confession; requires 100+ chapters to be addressed (Naruto rescued Hinata in the war and thanked her, he recalled her trying to fight Pein, but, somehow he didnt recall her confession ). Kishi could draw Naruto to remember the confession, or say something like 'we'll talk later once the war ends'; but Kishi choose not to. I would not be surprised if somehow the confession is brought up again to build something more dramatic for NS.

Face it, anything that involves Naruto and Sakura (both direction) is always subtle, vague, unclear, abruptly stopped, you name it... (e.g. Sakura's thought when they fought Zabusa, ramen feeding scene, Sai remarks on Sakura's gentleness towards Naruto, Sakura's almost crying on Jinchuuriki's fate, Yamato's unfinished sentence, Naruto's flashback with Sai, the confession, and many more). I think this will be the rule until the end of the manga, we have to bare with it...

2. The confession is 'as is'.
Case closed, all the questions have been addressed in that arc. Readers have to live with what was depicted and made their own interpretation or fill in with their own thoughts (hence the reaason why the confession was depicted starting from the middle, conversation between Naruto & Sakura happen behind scene, etc).

Edited by Namaenash, 13 May 2012 - 09:49 AM.

[ciardha]

I'm actually really not that bothered by how things seem to be going with NS. The bigger the hole that NS falls into only means that its going to have a pretty big moment to bring itself backup. Since its been a really long time since a legitimate NS moment, I have a feeling the next one/ones is going to be REALLY dramatic and awesome. We already know NS is going to happen, there's been way too much development for it not to. So be expecting something big soon, Kishi's gonna unleash the bomb.

He's definitely been pretty openly hinting around recently that Naruto and Sakura interaction is in the forefront of his mind. The movie plot where Naruto and Sakura are somewhere, doing something alone when they are attacked by Tobi Madara, and two special color chapter illustrations in April having Naruto acting out of some kind of mischief to get Sakura's attention. (The first stirring up her hot temper with the sleeping Kyuubi right in the village, the second mischievously planning something in the cherry tree right above where Sakura is sitting [perhaps he's just arrived and did so with a mischievous romantic idea- planning on dropping down right next to her, with a small branch of cherry blossoms in his hand which he'll present to her with a romantic flourish...] - with her looking up at him in wide eyed surprise (no hot temper this time- she's looking up at him cutely, with a very typical Japanese feminine pose.)

[ichaichamaster]

yeah i agree with all of the above, kishi is most likely to be palning a big narusaku moment in the future, and with big i mean important to their development, but i don't think we can take anything for sure. Anyways, what do you see happening between in the future? I would love a scene where naruto gets a punch to the gut and a scream ( BAKA !!) and then a hug or sakura saying she was very worried about him. This isn't what we ns fans want, but this is probably the next narusaku moment.

Now namaenash, what you said abou sakura's confession made me wonder. Why didn´t kishi show us all of sakura's confession? That really puzzles me

[lord287]

yeah i agree with all of the above, kishi is most likely to be palning a big narusaku moment in the future, and with big i mean important to their development, but i don't think we can take anything for sure. Anyways, what do you see happening between in the future? I would love a scene where naruto gets a punch to the gut and a scream ( BAKA !!) and then a hug or sakura saying she was very worried about him. This isn't what we ns fans want, but this is probably the next narusaku moment.

Now namaenash, what you said abou sakura's confession made me wonder. Why didn´t kishi show us all of sakura's confession? That really puzzles me

I loved the first time it happened because it showed that sakura cares for naruto very much but if the same thing happens again even if it will be very nice to see but repeating things just don't have the same affect as it had the first time! This is also the reason I think sakura won't do a confession again and I don't expect Naruto to say something about his feelings to sakura until he is on death bed!

[kidNinja]

I'm just ready for this all to be resolved so the haters can finally shut up.

[Gravenimage]

I'm just ready for this all to be resolved so the haters can finally shut up.

That's where you're wrong the haters will always hate no matter what. Even if Kishi shows NS any clearer than he already had they won't change their minds.

[kidNinja]

That's where you're wrong the haters will always hate no matter what. Even if Kishi shows NS any clearer than he already had they won't change their minds.

True. There at least could be more NH and SS fans on this board because I got called out by a Hinata fanboy in my inbox on Youtube and I'm slapping him around left and right. I need an actual challenge.


EDIT: He just called me a loser and flung insults at me, he says that I'm annoying and that he's not going to respond anymore. The funny thing is that I didn't even come anywhere close to going all-out. (Man, I need to get a life...)

Edited by kidNinja, 13 May 2012 - 10:56 PM.

[Don-kun]

I'm just ready for this all to be resolved so the haters can finally shut up.

Me too. I just hate reading non-sense about SS, Sakura already chose Naruto over Sasuke, if they want to believe that she just did as friends fine, but remember two thinks here she knows that Naruto really loves her and Naruto is the freaking main character, there's so much build up between him and Sakura.
There is Zero between the other two additionally a heroine is the girl that supports the main character the most, people were complaining that Hinata was more heroine like than Sakura, I wonder did he ever ask himself why they think that way? but was was Kishi's replay? he said that he will make Sakura a more heroine like character, what does that tells them?

Yes is truth there has been negative moments, but they hasn't been a romantic Naru>>>>Hinata or Sasu>>>>>Sakura moment in 585 chapters, doesn't that speak by itself?
I complain about Kishi still forzing Sakuras feelings toward Sasuke to keep all pairing fandon balance, but I never doubt that Sakura feeling towards Naruto are much more deep.

If Sasuke is killing Naruto Sakura will try to hurt him and try really hard to save Naruto even if it cost her life, but if naruto is killing Sasuke Sakura will only watch.
Again what does that tells them?

[kidNinja]

Me too. I just hate reading non-sense about SS, Sakura already chose Naruto over Sasuke, if they want to believe that she just did as friends fine, but remember two thinks here she knows that Naruto really loves her and Naruto is the freaking main character, there's so much build up between him and Sakura.
There is Zero between the other two additionally a heroine is the girl that supports the main character the most, people were complaining that Hinata was more heroine like than Sakura, I wonder did he ever ask himself why they think that way? but was was Kishi's replay? he said that he will make Sakura a more heroine like character, what does that tells them?

Yes is truth there has been negative moments, but they hasn't been a romantic Naru>>>>Hinata or Sasu>>>>>Sakura moment in 585 chapters, doesn't that speak by itself?
I complain about Kishi still forzing Sakuras feelings toward Sasuke to keep all pairing fandon balance, but I never doubt that Sakura feeling towards Naruto are much more deep.

If Sasuke is killing Naruto Sakura will try to hurt him and try really hard to save Naruto even if it cost her life, but if naruto is killing Sasuke Sakura will only watch.
Again what does that tells them?

I'm just anticipating what's going to happen with Hinata's bold statement in 573 and the fact that she isn't wearing the alliance's headband. I have a feeling there are going to be some grave consequences for her actions.

[4000TMNT]

Do you think Sasuke might kidnap or try to kill Sakura to make Naruto suffer, because CH 416 Sasuke said if a person denies his way of life, he will kill the closes people that they care about. Do you think it will be in future plot that Sasuke might do something terrible to Sakura to make Naruto know true hatred.

[kidNinja]

Do you think Sasuke might kidnap or try to kill Sakura to make Naruto suffer, because CH 416 Sasuke said if a person denies his way of life, he will kill the closes people that they care about. Do you think it will be in future plot that Sasuke might do something terrible to Sakura to make Naruto know true hatred.

I didn't see that. I'll go back and read it. Yeah, it sounds like a big possibility, I'm sure Sasuke has some stuff in store for Naruto. What if after Tobi is defeated, Hinata is determined to hold Naruto's hand, but he walks past her and goes to Sakura. Could there be a chance that Sasuke approaches Hinata and he encourages her to get revenge by taking it out on Sakura? (Lol, quite a stretch but not impossible)

Edited by kidNinja, 14 May 2012 - 12:32 AM.

[kirabook]

Eh.... I can't really see Sasuke going out of his way to kidnap her. If she's there for the taking right in front of him, at most he would attempt to kill her on the spot.

[Forlong]

I'm just ready for this all to be resolved so the haters can finally shut up.

Haters never shut up. Believe you me.