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[alexander]

Wow, the show is just getting sillier over time. I can't feel the charm from season one on this anymore. The only saving grace for me was Eska and Desna bizarre penguin laugh. That got an chuckle from me.

[Kster95]

I can't tell you how frustrated I was with this episode!!

 

.........rant

AANG a neglectful father???! AANG?! Nope I won't believe cause it makes no sense. Sure he might want to personally train Tenzin and take him to temples alone....but taking him on vacations without his other children???!!! THAT'S NOT AANG!! THAT WILL NEVER BE AANG! and seriously no one can convince me otherwise so don't even try changing my opinion cause it most likely won't work (fair warning).

Lastly....DANG!! can Kya and Bumi be any more disrespectful to their DEAD father?!! like seriously!?? Tenzin was the youngest child and he was born waay later!? I find it hard to believe Kya and Bumi didn't get any Daddy love! COME ON!!

......guys...I'm sorry the joy and wonder of Korra is seriously zapped outta me...I just lost the ability to love it. I notice more negative things with it than positive...which is unfair to the show (kinda...not really)
but honestly I can't see anything else when they refuse to solve the elephants in the room.

 

Its only the second episode, so much can change from here so don't give up.

 

Aang is not a perfect person, he was just the avatar which means he was not perfect. You only knew of his character in his teen years as a playful kid, you don't know how he was as an adult or parent(People mature and change). Him favoring Tenzin over his other kids makes TOTAL sense, like how did you not see that coming. Tenzin was the only other airbender alive with Aang after so many years Aang could finally connect with someone else because of airbending, of course he is going to favor him more. Doesn't mean he doesn't love his other children. He had to teach Tenzin about all the air temples and stuff, what are Kya and Bumi going to need that for?

 

As for Kya and Bumi, can you blame them. If Aang didn't pay as much attention to them as he should have of course they have the right to be mad. Just because he is dead doesn't mean you cant speak of his mistakes. 

Edited by Kster95, 21 September 2013 - 08:20 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ok, I haven't able to watch them and share my comment. I would go into greater details but next episode, I will. I don't know how to do spoiler tag on phone, so if you don't want to get spoiled, skip this post.

That said I see this season pretty promising and it's still early on. I am glad that the father-daughter situation seems to be over and while understandable, it's a bit harsh from her. I understand, just tone down a little or show more respectful in a angry way. That said I am glad she's getting back on her feet with this situation. Only one left is Tenzin, which I didn't like that much with her saying goodbye. The father, I understand, him not so much.

I do like the nature of both tribes being indifferent with each other and it's using the real life situation where things aren't easy to have two different place combining for a couple of days or so. It's like if North and South Korea come together, it won't magically work. So now Korra got to deal with Civil outbreak, which is hard because there's no real bad, just good people getting in bad conflicts. While the uncle could be bad, for now, I see him as Danzou, not bad but the idea of "peace" is a bit cold. No pun intended.

Mako is the boyfriend guy and he's more likeable, which is good, but I hope he has a direction soon. Bolin is much funnier in here and the delivery is spot on. Still a comic relief but I do believe he will have direction soon with those twins, whom are just funny in a strange way. Bolin got himself in trouble and rightfully so. As for Asami, I would bet she will come back very soon and I do like the follow up for her, struggling to stay in business after a bad reputation, that is her father being a criminal. That's hard to bounce back. I know a real life story about a game console being made by a mafia guy and after that story was unfold, nobody bought the console. So yeah, I want more of her and I think in two episodes, she'll be back.

Tenzin and his family is probably my favorite of them all because now it seems that we will go further within Aang/Katara family and judging by others, I would like to see the real story from Aang himself. There's always spirit to solve this. We only get the pov and it would seem that Aang didn't do a good job but surely, there must be a reason. Avatar is one thing but Tenzin getting the best treatment, well we got to wait and see. Part of me believes is because he's an Airbender while others aren't so in a way, that's a bigger responsibility to handle because he's the one that can spread more benders. But again, I'll wait for more. The family is so much fun and really like where it's headed.

Overall, a very promising season with some troublesome moments and some characters need a direction, mainly Mako. Korra was a bit too harsh for many to watch, but thanks to recent episode, it seems we are done. Just need to apologize to Tenzin of course, but maybe it's for the best to split anyway. Both of them are getting family bond time in a different way and I enjoyed it. Now the next episode will be something interesting to watch and perhaps the story will get intense soon. Here's hoping for the best.

[chouzu_tao]

So once again the sins of the older generation haunt the new generation. 

 

Aang as a father

From what I've seen of adult Aang, this isn't as surprising as it should be. I mean seeing him as a kid, you'd think he'd be a great and affectionate father. But the adult Aang shown in book one of LOK seemed much more serious. Maybe the weight of being the avatar, especially on a more political level, eventually forced him to lose that side of him. Which is very sad. If this is the case, I feel his kids are perfectly justified in feeling the way they do. Sure Tenzin might have been born last, but if he is shown to be the favorite, experiencing things that the other two didn't with their father, it could cause sadness and jealousy. Does anyone know how much older the other two are to Tenzin?

 

Korra's uncle seems so clearly 'the big bad', which is sad because either it's lazy writing, they want us to sympathize and understand his cause, causing another "it's not black or white, but gray" feeling and failing, or it's a troll and he's not the big bad at all. Maybe he's possessed by the king of Dark Spirits?

[sushi.]

So once again the sins of the older generation haunt the new generation. 

 

Aang as a father

From what I've seen of adult Aang, this isn't as surprising as it should be. I mean seeing him as a kid, you'd think he'd be a great and affectionate father. But the adult Aang shown in book one of LOK seemed much more serious. Maybe the weight of being the avatar, especially on a more political level, eventually forced him to lose that side of him. Which is very sad. If this is the case, I feel his kids are perfectly justified in feeling the way they do. Sure Tenzin might have been born last, but if he is shown to be the favorite, experiencing things that the other two didn't with their father, it could cause sadness and jealousy. Does anyone know how much older the other two are to Tenzin?

 

Korra's uncle seems so clearly 'the big bad', which is sad because either it's lazy writing, they want us to sympathize and understand his cause, causing another "it's not black or white, but gray" feeling and failing, or it's a troll and he's not the big bad at all. Maybe he's possessed by the king of Dark Spirits?

I think Kya and Bumi are in their early 60's. Tenzin is 51. And I completely agree with you about Aang. What we loved about him seems to be gone. I imagined him to be a funloving father that would always play with his kids..   It's like he was in the movie, which is sad. I also wonder about Aang's relationship to his kids prior to Tenzin's birth. Eitherway there's no excuse because no matter how you look at it, in Kya and Bumi's eyes, Aang was not a good father. I wonder what Katara thought of it, can't imagine her being anything but a great mother..

 

Unulaq is not the big bad. I also don't like that Bryke is creating the same grey villain type as last season. Anyhow, the big bad is the Dark spirit. Voiced by Azula's voice actor. She or he might be cooperating with Unulaq, controlling him or maybe forcing him in some way. I actually wonder how bringing the real world and the spirit world will benefit him..

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Hated Tenzin's siblings' relationship with Aang, and that they're 50 year old and fighting like this.

I don't like Korra at all. She's so naive it's embarassing, and doesn't want any help from anyone but her uncle. :wallbash:Her door slamming is also not cool, and that she's always running off and then people start yelling her name..jeez

Korra reached the conclusion that Unulaq's kidnapper was her father way too fast. Then she attacks him remorselessly just to apologize to her actual father and tell him she's glad it wasn't really him she attacked..

Bolin is reduced to 100% comic relief, Mako is Korra's b*tch and Asami isn't even there. Am I being too negative?

 

I mean the series is not so bad I won't watch it. But it's so bad I'm going to treat it like an alternative universe and not canon, to keep my Avatar heart alive. This can't be what happened 70 years later, no please.

 

I like the twins though..or I don't like them, but I think their scenes are funny. It was also funny to see Mako giving Bolin girlfriend advice, when he couldn't break up with Asami, just not in a good way. I also don't think he called Asami a leech, maybe he was just talking about girls in general..I hope.

Edited by sushi., 21 September 2013 - 04:30 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Too soon to judge many things, especially Aang's family. That said I think it did its job to make you guys get upset at fictional characters that is not yet to explain (Aang). I understand the Korra situation is hard to ache, but things are clearing and it's only the third episode, so good thing this doesn't get dragged on. Imagine hating on dad for all the season. That would be hard to watch. Anyway, I believe people in here are getting Sakura wait problem, meaning impatient to see what's next to conclude their impressions. I'll just say relax and wait on.

[BlueStarSaber]

I think Kya and Bumi are in their early 60's. Tenzin is 51. And I completely agree with you about Aang. What we loved about him seems to be gone. I imagined him to be a funloving father that would always play with his kids..   It's like he was in the movie, which is sad. I also wonder about Aang's relationship to his kids prior to Tenzin's birth. Eitherway there's no excuse because no matter how you look at it, in Kya and Bumi's eyes, Aang was not a good father. I wonder what Katara thought of it, can't imagine her being anything but a great mother..

 

Unulaq is not the big bad. I also don't like that Bryke is creating the same grey villain type as last season. Anyhow, the big bad is the Dark spirit. Voiced by Azula's voice actor. She or he might be cooperating with Unulaq, controlling him or maybe forcing him in some way. I actually wonder how bringing the real world and the spirit world will benefit him..

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Hated Tenzin's siblings' relationship with Aang, and that they're 50 year old and fighting like this.

I don't like Korra at all. She's so naive it's embarassing, and doesn't want any help from anyone but her uncle. :wallbash:Her door slamming is also not cool, and that she's always running off and then people start yelling her name..jeez

Korra reached the conclusion that Unulaq's kidnapper was her father way too fast. Then she attacks him remorselessly just to apologize to her actual father and tell him she's glad it wasn't really him she attacked..

Bolin is reduced to 100% comic relief, Mako is Korra's b*tch and Asami isn't even there. Am I being too negative?

 

I mean the series is not so bad I won't watch it. But it's so bad I'm going to treat it like an alternative universe and not canon, to keep my Avatar heart alive. This can't be what happened 70 years later, no please.

 

I like the twins though..or I don't like them, but I think their scenes are funny. It was also funny to see Mako giving Bolin girlfriend advice, when he couldn't break up with Asami, just not in a good way. I also don't think he called Asami a leech, maybe he was just talking about girls in general..I hope.

 

Bolded: That's an understatement

 

It's just the third episode anything can happen.

 

So what if Aang is not the perfect father that everyone thought off, so what I like it. It gives extra detail to his kids to develop on for the series.

 

To be fair Korra is still young and hot headed, true aang matured faster, but he kind had to with a war going on. Not to mention this series has smaller time to do stuff so their will be bits were they are goanna go faster on when we could get more time on it.

 

Sokka for half the time was reduced to comic relief to be honest.

 

Mako can't really comment on yet, but I think he is just trying to be the best boyfriend he can as well as the peace maker.

 

Asami you should be patient on she will appear.

 

Maybe you should wait before the series ends or the season before you judge it as bad or as an alternative universe.

 

Anyway since you know don't like Korra are you gonna change your avatar and sig?

[merryGOflava]

Like I said no one can convinve m

 

 

Its only the second episode, so much can change from here so don't give up.

 

Aang is not a perfect person, he was just the avatar which means he was not perfect. You only knew of his character in his teen years as a playful kid, you don't know how he was as an adult or parent(People mature and change). Him favoring Tenzin over his other kids makes TOTAL sense, like how did you not see that coming. Tenzin was the only other airbender alive with Aang after so many years Aang could finally connect with someone else because of airbending, of course he is going to favor him more. Doesn't mean he doesn't love his other children. He had to teach Tenzin about all the air temples and stuff, what are Kya and Bumi going to need that for?

 

As for Kya and Bumi, can you blame them. If Aang didn't pay as much attention to them as he should have of course they have the right to be mad. Just because he is dead doesn't mean you cant speak of his mistakes. 

 

like I said Aang would never neglect his children and be fine with it.

it would make sense if he was made too by an advisor or maybe the white lotus, because keeping the airbending people alive is very important, but Aang wouldn't put ALL his focus on Tenzen simply because he's an airbending baby! I love him more!

 

Katara for one would never let him live it down.....if Aang did start favoring Tenzin, Katara would tell him what he is doing wrong before it got outta hand.

 

so...yea...I'll wait for an explanation but I refuse to believe it if it's simply Aang was a bad dad.

 

it's annoying....I grew up with these characters....saw their flaws, fears, likes......saw them grow and develop. 

now one of my favorite characters has another flaw...and I can't even see him develop outta it because he's dead!

so thats that......Aang was a great avatar......but he was a bad daddy. sorry but I just can't accept it.

 

but we'll see....... :)

Edited by merryGOflava, 21 September 2013 - 05:23 PM.

[sushi.]

 

Bolded: That's an understatement

 

It's just the third episode anything can happen.

 

So what if Aang is not the perfect father that everyone thought off, so what I like it. It gives extra detail to his kids to develop on for the series.

 

To be fair Korra is still young and hot headed, true aang matured faster, but he kind had to with a war going on. Not to mention this series has smaller time to do stuff so their will be bits were they are goanna go faster on when we could get more time on it.

 

Sokka for half the time was reduced to comic relief to be honest.

 

Mako can't really comment on yet, but I think he is just trying to be the best boyfriend he can as well as the peace maker.

 

Asami you should be patient on she will appear.

 

Maybe you should wait before the series ends or the season before you judge it as bad or as an alternative universe.

 

Anyway since you know don't like Korra are you gonna change your avatar and sig?

Please don't compare Sokka to Bolin. Sokka destroyed fire nation ships, found out how to stop the drill, successfully saved his father from a prison impossible to break in and out of etc... He was the plan-guy, and had lots of growth, development and serious moments. The problem is not that Bolin is funny, the problem is that the sub-plot about Bolin now is 100% comedy. He didn't do anything special in season 1 either.

 

And omg how do you know if Asami will appear or not? What an argument.. Trying to assure me is a waste. So I'm judging the episodes individually, not the entire season. So telling me I should be patient is also a waste. Asami had two scenes in three episodes, is she still a main character? Hope they don't reduce her to the side, she had after all the most growth.

 

So Korra is young and hotheaded, tell me something I don't know. Nothing can justify her behaviour in my opinion.

 

I think I have enough evidence to judge on anyway, it's been 15 episodes after all. The rest can not pull it up even if they are fantastic. Of course I'm not judging the entire season, just "so far".

 

Probably never gonna change my avatar and sig, I even forgot I had it lol. It's pretty and from season 1(Korra was cooler in season 1). I also miss Korra's silly faces and attitude, she's so grumpy now.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

Its only the second episode, so much can change from here so don't give up.

 

Aang is not a perfect person, he was just the avatar which means he was not perfect. You only knew of his character in his teen years as a playful kid, you don't know how he was as an adult or parent(People mature and change). Him favoring Tenzin over his other kids makes TOTAL sense, like how did you not see that coming. Tenzin was the only other airbender alive with Aang after so many years Aang could finally connect with someone else because of airbending, of course he is going to favor him more. Doesn't mean he doesn't love his other children. He had to teach Tenzin about all the air temples and stuff, what are Kya and Bumi going to need that for?

 

As for Kya and Bumi, can you blame them. If Aang didn't pay as much attention to them as he should have of course they have the right to be mad. Just because he is dead doesn't mean you cant speak of his mistakes. 

 

This, so much. I don't think Aang is purposely being portrayed as a bad father, it's something that is going to be used for DEVELOPMENT. I have full confidence that we will see this issue resolved. Tenzin has a highly idealized view of Aang in his mind as a perfect, flawless father and Kya and Bumi are bitter because they feel Tenzin was favored by their father for being an airbender, and there probably is some truth to that, but we do not have the whole story yet. I think the truth will turn out to be somewhere in between.

Honestly I think the issue is less about Aang than it is about tension between the siblings, Kya and Bumi want Tenzin to feel guilty for being so close to their father, (and that is not a bash to the older siblings, because I actually like them), I believe that's one reason Katara was so insistent that they spend time together, she knows there's things they need to face each other with. I really like the added sense of realism that has been brought to these characters. I don't think I've been this excited for Korra since the series began.

 

Like I said no one can convinve m

 

 

like I said Aang would never neglect his children and be fine with it.

it would make sense if he was made too by an advisor or maybe the white lotus, because keeping the airbending people alive is very important, but Aang wouldn't put ALL his focus on Tenzen simply because he's an airbending baby! I love him more!

 

Katara for one would never let him live it down.....if Aang did start favoring Tenzin, Katara would tell him what he is doing wrong before it got outta hand.

 

so...yea...I'll wait for an explanation but I refuse to believe it if it's simply Aang was a bad dad.

 

it's annoying....I grew up with these characters....saw their flaws, fears, likes......saw them grow and develop. 

now one of my favorite characters has another flaw...and I can't even see him develop outta it because he's dead!

so thats that......Aang was a great avatar......but he was a bad daddy. sorry but I just can't accept it.

 

but we'll see....... :)

 

Who said Aang neglected his children and was fine with it? We haven't heard Aang's side of the story, and I have a strong feeling we will. I mean if you want to choose to be close-minded about the subject, so be it. But try to have the presence of mind to wait to make your judgment once all the cards are laid out. And I think we'll see a trip into the spirit world where the siblings will see Aang, just cause he's technically dead doesn't mean we won't see resolution.

[TouKen4Life3g]

How ironic. We have a civil war episode and it would seem like we too have one in here.

[Kster95]

All everyone wanted to know in Lok seaaon 1 was how Aang and everyone was like in adulthood, now come season 2 and you get a small insight on it and you don't want to hear it.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

All everyone wanted to know in Lok seaaon 1 was how Aang and everyone was like in adulthood, now come season 2 and you get a small insight on it and you don't want to hear it.

 

Exactly. I am hyped to find out more, maybe it's because I'm a writer, but I feel I can appreciate what is being done in this development with Aang and his children. It's not trying to paint Aang as a bad person or father, just a flawed one, like any human being.

[BlueStarSaber]

Please don't compare Sokka to Bolin. Sokka destroyed fire nation ships, found out how to stop the drill, successfully saved his father from a prison impossible to break in and out of etc... He was the plan-guy, and had lots of growth, development and serious moments. The problem is not that Bolin is funny, the problem is that the sub-plot about Bolin now is 100% comedy. He didn't do anything special in season 1 either.

 

And omg how do you know if Asami will appear or not? What an argument.. Trying to assure me is a waste. So I'm judging the episodes individually, not the entire season. So telling me I should be patient is also a waste. Asami had two scenes in three episodes, is she still a main character? Hope they don't reduce her to the side, she had after all the most growth.

 

So Korra is young and hotheaded, tell me something I don't know. Nothing can justify her behaviour in my opinion.

 

I think I have enough evidence to judge on anyway, it's been 15 episodes after all. The rest can not pull it up even if they are fantastic. Of course I'm not judging the entire season, just "so far".

 

Probably never gonna change my avatar and sig, I even forgot I had it lol. It's pretty and from season 1(Korra was cooler in season 1). I also miss Korra's silly faces and attitude, she's so grumpy now.

 

I said half the time I didn't mean every moment he was in, maybe half the time was not the best word perhaps a third. Besides Bolin has done things to contribute to the team like stopping those plans from taking of and helping asami take down her father. Besides his sub plot is not just about comedy it also has a bit of a love story and perhaps more we have yet to see.

 

Well I did see her riding a plane on one of the trailers towards a battle ship with the rest of the team.

 

Well I can't change your opinion on Korra's behaviour but justified or not her parents forgave her.

 

If the rest can not pull it up even if they are fantastic then why are you still goanna watch it?

 

Who is to say you won't see that goofy side of Korra latter.

 

@NaruSaku4Life3g your right on that.

[merryGOflava]

All everyone wanted to know in Lok seaaon 1 was how Aang and everyone was like in adulthood, now come season 2 and you get a small insight on it and you don't want to hear it.

 

not gonna lie I don't 

but the there are so many problems I have with Legend of Korra, everything about it is making me angry.

 

 

but I will give them a chance to explain the father situation I'm sure Bryke wouldn't do anything drastic with Aang.

[sushi.]

but I will give them a chance to explain the father situation I'm sure Bryke wouldn't do anything drastic with Aang.

My problem is not if Aang was a bad father or not, because I will also give them a change to explain the situation.

 

My problem is that Aang's relationship with his other kids weren't that good after all, at least not from their side. They seem so bitter when talking about him, and even starts fights because of their jealousy. Their dad has been dead for almost 20 years and it looks like they're still not over it. In their eyes, Aang did not love them all equally. True or not, it makes me sad. This is not something Bryke can get around.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

My problem is not if Aang was a bad father or not, because I will also give them a change to explain the situation.

 

My problem is that Aang's relationship with his other kids weren't that good after all, at least not from their side. They seem so bitter when talking about him, and even starts fights because of their jealousy. Their dad has been dead for almost 20 years and it looks like they're still not over it. In their eyes, Aang did not love them all equally. True or not, it makes me sad. This is not something Bryke can get around.

 

Like I said, I think it's more bitterness towards Tenzin than Aang.  And I think their perceptions as children may perhaps be unintentionally exaggerated, if there's one thing I know about children is that they do at times have a way of blowing a situation out of proportion. Not that I don't think they do not have a valid reason for feeling as they do, just that everything may not be quite as it seems.

[sushi.]

 

Like I said, I think it's more bitterness towards Tenzin than Aang.  And I think their perceptions as children may perhaps be unintentionally exaggerated, if there's one thing I know about children is that they do at times have a way of blowing a situation out of proportion. Not that I don't think they do not have a valid reason for feeling as they do, just that everything may not be quite as it seems.

I know. They started fight because of their father, like I said.

 

and.. Children?? They are 50-60 years old. I take their opinions quite seriously.

[Kster95]

I know. They started fight because of their father, like I said.

 

and.. Children?? They are 50-60 years old. I take their opinions quite seriously.

 

The fight only started because Tenzin was talking about how their father was so great to them, they obviously thought otherwise. 

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I know. They started fight because of their father, like I said.

 

and.. Children?? They are 50-60 years old. I take their opinions quite seriously.

I said as children, meaning when they were children. And certainly, I take what they said seriously too, it obviously is something that bothers them quite immensely for it to still be an issue. All I meant was that they way the saw things as children and that transcended into adulthood, may not have been quite as it really was.