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[Gravenimage]

Really? I cant remember.....btw gravenimage, what happened to ciardha? i LOVED her posts!!!
And i read that kishi stated that the hyuuga's were going to get development, and that team 10 would also get development.And i read this on a thread that was on december 22nd which was before all this happened in the manga, so i believe the hyuuga will be wrapped up in these chapters, yes im directing at YOU hinata

Good question I haven't heard from her in months. Maybe you should PM her.

[Chucky-kun]

Your replying to poison in your coffee post a few pages back. I told him the same thing and he hasn't reply to me saying I was wrong. Doubt he'll reply to you too.

His mind's been blown, give him a few lol.

[PhenixElite]

Really? I cant remember.....btw gravenimage, what happened to ciardha? i LOVED her posts!!!
And i read that kishi stated that the hyuuga's were going to get development, and that team 10 would also get development.And i read this on a thread that was on december 22nd which was before all this happened in the manga, so i believe the hyuuga will be wrapped up in these chapters, yes im directing at YOU hinata

That was a fake interview made by a fan.

[Chatte]

That was a fake interview made by a fan.

I'll never understand these fake interview makers... they're just living from false hopes, in my opinion...Why comfort yourself with false hopes if the reality is going to be different?

[Chucky-kun]

I'll never understand these fake interview makers... they're just living from false hopes, in my opinion...Why comfort yourself with false hopes if the reality is going to be different?

Obito is influencing them.

[Chatte]

Obito is influencing them.

Oh, lol, I see what you did there

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Bodylanguage can be a hint but now we are moving into a territory that is more ambiguous and has less to do with language. It is easy to translate "suki" to love when we have a boy declare that a girl is cute and then they almost kiss and the guy on top of this is blushing. The context is romantic/sexual.

Imagine if in the next chapter Naruto turns and repeats his "I like people like you" to Hinata and he uses the word "suki"... If I was the official English translator, I'd throw something at the wall and cry. How would that be translated? The context might be different: Naruto is holding the hand of the girl who has declared her romantic love for him earlier. In the imaginery chapter 616 maybe he is even blushing. Is the translator meant to realize that Naruto's feelings have turned more deeper, romantic, "to love"? Or is it just a callback to the good old times, just go with the original version of "like"? Original Japanese just goes with "suki" and doesn't have to change any word to change meaning.

Handholding is so ambiguous. It can be something done between two friends (Naruto and Sasuke have done so). But at the same time handholding is one of the most romantic things one can do and it's very intimate. We need more context for Naruto's actions to say really anything more.

(Even in English language, we have context. "I love apples" to "I love my mother" to "I love my girlfriend". Are these "loves" equal, all as serious? Same word, different context.)

Your replying to poison in your coffee post a few pages back. I told him the same thing and he hasn't reply to me saying I was wrong. Doubt he'll reply to you too.

Sorry, haven't even seen your posts yet. BTW, who on earth is this "he"? Also, you are wrong. There you go. I will have to see if you might possibly be right.

[Chatte]

Bodylanguage can be a hint but now we are moving into a territory that is more ambiguous and has less to do with language. It is easy to translate "suki" to love when we have a boy declare that a girl is cute and then they almost kiss and the guy on top of this is blushing. The context is romantic/sexual.

Imagine if in the next chapter Naruto turns and repeats his "I like people like you" to Hinata and he uses the word "suki"... If I was the official English translator, I'd throw something at the wall and cry. How would that be translated? The context might be different: Naruto is holding the hand of the girl who has declared her romantic love for him earlier. In the imaginery chapter 616 maybe he is even blushing. Is the translator meant to realize that Naruto's feelings have turned more deeper, romantic, "to love"? Or is it just a callback to the good old times, just go with the original version of "like"? Original Japanese just goes with "suki" and doesn't have to change any word to change meaning.

Handholding is so ambiguous. It can be something done between two friends (Naruto and Sasuke have done so). But at the same time handholding is one of the most romantic things one can do and it's very intimate. We need more context for Naruto's actions to say really anything more.

(Even in English language, we have context. "I love apples" to "I love my mother" to "I love my girlfriend". Are these "loves" equal, all as serious? Same word, different context.)

That's why almost all NS had as well the romantic atmosphere around them, while NH lacked that thing.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

That's why almost all NS had as well the romantic atmosphere around them, while NH lacked that thing.

It's up to interpretion. There are some clear scenes like the bench scene that are clearly romantic. Sakura hugging Naruto can be either platonic or romantic: there is nothing concrete to prove either way, as years of debating it have probably shown to everybody.

[Chatte]

It's up to interpretion. There are some clear scenes like the bench scene that are clearly romantic. Sakura hugging Naruto can be either platonic or romantic: there is nothing concrete to prove either way, as years of debating it have probably shown to everybody.

Interpretation is somehow denial to others.
Trust me.
I was a former SS/NH fan and still had those thoughts at the time I saw the hug and everything... it's just, at that time, didn't care so much about it.
The NS moments do have romantic input no matter how you're looking at it.
But that again, is my opinion, not trying to force it onto you or anything like that.
It's just that I happened to get into this matter with body language a lot last year and that's why I say it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's up to interpretion. There are some clear scenes like the bench scene that are clearly romantic. Sakura hugging Naruto can be either platonic or romantic: there is nothing concrete to prove either way, as years of debating it have probably shown to everybody.

I'm sorry but it has, the two Narusaku hugs the first one the atmosphere was romantic by the fact that, Naruto received the acknowledgment of all the villagers though Sakura's hug the moment was romantic, the second, the ambient, snow, one guy and one girl, "i love you", her face, sakura's blushing, the atmosphere was romantic.
And handholding it's depend on the context as always, 616 will be the chapter that this will be lifted so let's wait.

Naruto's is focused on giving an answer to Obito, his mind is focused on Obito and the Juubi.

[Gravenimage]

I'm sorry but it has, the two Narusaku hugs the first one the atmosphere was romantic by the fact that, Naruto received the acknowledgment of all the villagers though Sakura's hug the moment was romantic, the second, the ambient, snow, one guy and one girl, "i love you", her face, sakura's blushing, the atmosphere was romantic.
And handholding it's depend on the context as always, 616 will be the chapter that this will be lifted so let's wait.

Naruto's is focused on giving an answer to Obito, his mind is focused on Obito and the Juubi.

Naruto might release Hinata's hand in the next chapter since his only focus is Obito and the Jyuubi. Madara doesn't pose too much threat, for now. He's not going to be focusing on Hinata.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

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that was a great slap on the face of westerners.
Any girl from Naruto was mentioned.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 January 2013 - 02:42 PM.

[T XD]

Naruto might release Hinata's hand in the next chapter since his only focus is Obito and the Jyuubi. Madara doesn't pose too much threat, for now. He's not going to be focusing on Hinata.

Of course he's going to release her hand. How in the world will they fight if they're holding hands ?
This holding hand thing is taken too much into consideration which we shouldn't, knowing that Naruto didn't even react to her romantically, even Hinata didn't blush when she was holding his hand, just commenting on his hand which is expected from her to do something when holding Naruto's hand !

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

The NS moments do have romantic input no matter how you're looking at it.

No. Please don't take this arrogant attitude that somehow you have read this manga better than I. You know very well that a big part of this Naruto fandom doesn't even see any of those NS moments as romantic. I personally think that it is possible for some of the the NS moments to be romantic, but nothing yet has convinced me that NS will absolutely be canon. This is not denial: this is trying to keep my mind open.

[Chatte]

No. Please don't take this arrogant attitude that somehow you have read this manga better than I. You know very well that a big part of this Naruto fandom doesn't even see any of those NS moments as romantic. I personally think that it is possible for some of the the NS moments to be romantic, but nothing yet has convinced me that NS will absolutely be canon. This is not denial: this is trying to keep my mind open.

I didn't take any arrogant attitude. Don't know what made you think that, just the fact that you quoted only that part?
But the majority of them do have it, like I said before. Yet, you're free to think however you want.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No. Please don't take this arrogant attitude that somehow you have read this manga better than I. You know very well that a big part of this Naruto fandom doesn't even see any of those NS moments as romantic. I personally think that it is possible for some of the the NS moments to be romantic, but nothing yet has convinced me that NS will absolutely be canon. This is not denial: this is trying to keep my mind open.

Disagree with you there, you saying this information based on nothing.
Big part of Naruto fandom acknowledge that most of NS moments were romantic, "snow, acknowledgment of the village" classic romantic moments.

the other bolded you made me laugh, you're not open minded you can say anything but it's not.
You just acknowledge what's favorable to you the rest you only ignore like Naru/Saku//Mina/Kushi, and much more.
The only unbiased people who i know already dropped Naruto's manga.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 January 2013 - 04:04 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

^Indeed, and it's something that people have a lot of trouble understanding, especially when you factor in composition. It's something that has really irritated me about this week's chapter. If it is intended to be read as romantic (Spoilers: I never bought it was), then the composition and body language do not fit the intentions whatsoever, especially when Naruto is talking to Hinata. If you're gonna have a moment that is meant to be romantic, have the two face each other. It's the entire reason that the NaruSaku hug at the end of the Pain arc caused the stir it did.

What still blows me away is that there are people that still cannot wrap their heads around Sakura's perspective on her feelings, specifically the inner conflict she's going through with those she has for Sasuke. But I digress... These are points that have been driven securely into the ground, no need to re-tread.

Deep down, it's gotta be because of how intimate Hinata was kinda coming off with her hand on Naruto's cheek that made people react like they did. It's why I reacted as I did, but I've gotten over it since I've come to realize a lot of what everyone's said here is true, Twilight, so I won't be too phased.

[Chatte]

Lol, btw you guys, did you saw this?

Fake 616 page --Click here to view--

It's just me or it's a hell of a fake? Doesn't match Kishi's style.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's just me or it's a hell of a fake? Doesn't match Kishi's style.

Everyone knew about this was fake and the title says "goodbye Naruto" which means that she would die on this fake chapter.
Most of the latins support NS.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 January 2013 - 04:08 PM.