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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 2 2013, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you really think that will happen? That would be like the beginning of the movie RTN, where she said that Sasuke would understand her. Then her character developed, and that's where is is now. And maybe I should remind you of chapter 540. ^^


I know but I really don't trust so much in Kishimoto these days. Mine was just a drastic and cynic vision. I don't have idea what there's in that man's head. I only hope that he still have a plan. I'm just crossing my fingers.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know but I really don't trust so much in Kishimoto these days. Mine was just a drastic and cynic vision. I don't have idea what there's in that man's head. I only hope that he still have a plan. I'm just crossing my fingers.

What you said is like the worst thing that can happen laugh.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 2 2013, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What you said is like the worst thing that can happen laugh.gif

You forgot naruto dying to protect Sakura and telling her to go marry Sasuke, to which she actually complies.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 2 2013, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What you said is like the worst thing that can happen laugh.gif


well, it's bad I'm not Kishimoto then... arg.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, it's bad I'm not Kishimoto then... arg.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:44 AM

mmmh I've a question for you...

Do you trust to Kishimoto? And if yes, how much? I' just curious...

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mmmh I've a question for you...

Do you trust to Kishimoto? And if yes, how much? I' just curious...

Yes I trust him to make ns canon, but I don't trust him enough because he hasn't done justice to sakura's character?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why but I've really some bad feelings about next chapter... I hope I'm wrong because sometime I guess right.

If it'll be like this:
*Naruto&Hinata holding their hands*
Sakura: They're holding their hands....
Sakura's thought: Sigh....This kind of vision is a pain....
Sakura's thought: I'm so envious... I wish that Sasuke-kun makes things like that with me....

I swear I'll drop the manga.

I dont see that happening XD.
I think naruto and hinata will be fighting and keep holding hands.(at least for one attack)
This will cause the whole fandom here go crazy again, but i dont have a problem with it.
Kishi said that our favourite characters are going to shine and now it was hinatas turn.
She got a big development, she was able to give naruto a pep talk. All the other times naruto was
the one who restored her faith, but now hinata could do it. How can her character shine more?

I also still have the feeling that kishi gave her some extra fan service because of her birthday ;).

No matter what sakuras time to shine will come too. Even if hinata keeps holding narutos hand next chapter, i see no reason to worrie.

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Also thx to Chucky-kun. Sorry seen to late.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 2 2013, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont see that happening XD.
I think naruto and hinata will be fighting and keep holding hands.(at least for one attack)
This will cause the whole fandom here go crazy again, but i dont have a problem with it.
Kishi said that our favourite characters are going to shine and now it was hinatas turn.
She got a big development, she was able to give naruto a pep talk. All the other times naruto was
the one who restored her faith, but now hinata could do it. How can her character shine more?

I also still have the feeling that kishi gave her some extra fan service because of her birthday wink.gif.

No matter what sakuras time to shine will come too. Even if hinata keeps holding narutos hand next chapter, i see no reason to worrie.

@MakeMoneyEatRice and Sushi.: Thanks a_thumbs.gif
Also thx to Chucky-kun. Sorry seen to late.

It's cool, your post was pretty inspiring.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Dec 30 2012, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let me stop you right there and explain some things to you.

Everyone knows that Uchiha's show their love by murder attempts. Itachi loved his clan, killed them. Sasuke loved Itachi, killed him(technically). Sasuke was simply trying to show his love to Sakura in the Uchiha way. By trying to kill her. Come on, nothing says true love like a Chidori. Kakashi picked this up when he got the Sharingan. Hence why he touched Rins heart with his Chidori. This is why SasuSaku makes sense and will become canon. Dat true love man.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Dec 30 2012, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let me stop you right there and explain some things to you.

Everyone knows that Uchiha's show their love by murder attempts. Itachi loved his clan, killed them. Sasuke loved Itachi, killed him(technically). Sasuke was simply trying to show his love to Sakura in the Uchiha way. By trying to kill her. Come on, nothing says true love like a Chidori. Kakashi picked this up when he got the Sharingan. Hence why he touched Rins heart with his Chidori. This is why SasuSaku makes sense and will become canon. Dat true love man.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 30 2012, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So we agree to disagree then, he wear the mask of a muderer, to Sasuke because he didnt wanted to sasuke pursue revenge on the village so he weat the mask of madman to him, he was wrong here but he's completely different than SAsuke because he was a hero, you may view him as a mass murderer but he was a hero.

Exactly, itachi is praised as a hero, not a murderer, i dont think you read the final chapters of itachi did you? Itachi killed his entire clan because he was ordered by the leaders of konoha, something about the uchiha clan wanting to start a war, i forgot, but itachi did it for the right.purpose.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why but I've really some bad feelings about next chapter... I hope I'm wrong because sometime I guess right.

If it'll be like this:
*Naruto&Hinata holding their hands*
Sakura: They're holding their hands....
Sakura's thought: Sigh....This kind of vision is a pain....
Sakura's thought: I'm so envious... I wish that Sasuke-kun makes things like that with me....

I swear I'll drop the manga.


At this point in the manga this make Sakura too OC. This is fan fiction stuff.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 2 2013, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At this point in the manga this make Sakura too OC. This is fan fiction stuff.


well, just like that's hinata stuff.... right? headscratch.gif ermm.gif

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 January 2013 - 01:18 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Dec 31 2012, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohhh hush up! Slex. 111189.gif You don't have to rub it in. T_T tongue.gif

Quinny. I thought you of all people would pick mine. dry.gif

I for one personally liked yours more, but slex's was nice too smile.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

Other question, this time about the famous ch 450.

Isn't strange that Kishi didn't show Naruto's face after Sakura hugged him? Why he didn't it? And isn't also strange that hinata's panel is the only one who had a ballon with suspension points and her smile looked so... forced?

In your opnion, it was a important clue or not? I didn't find those points very suspected.... Did Kishimoto want to say us something? Or is it was just a red herring?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 2 2013, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Other question, this time about the famous ch 450.

Isn't strange that Kishi didn't show Naruto's face after Sakura hugged him? Why he didn't it? And isn't also strange that hinata's panel is the only one who had a ballon with suspension points and her smile looked so... forced?

In your opnion, it was a important clue or not? I didn't find those points very suspected.... Did Kishimoto want to say us something? Or is it was just a red herring?

I guess thats just a case of overthinking. We shouldnt overanalyze every scene that much.
The only thing i can see having a meaning would be hinatas smile during the hug, since she had an empty bubble.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 1 2013, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You wanna know what's absolutely kittening retarded? The people that actually think Naruto's feelings for Sakura are fading away, when he's constantly spending so much time with her. And to follow up on that claim and say he's going to eventually have feelings for Hinata when he's rarely spent any time with her in this series. In other words:

More time you spend with that person = your feelings for that person fade away

Less time you spend with that person = your feelings increase

Dat NH logic 4 ya.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 2 2013, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think its always funny to see people react on chapters like that. Best example: chapter 615 thread with over 100 pages.
Why di we have to play this game again and again everytime hinata shares a moment with naruto?

Just think about it. How often did hinata show up during part 2? If i think back it was the short moment when sai appeared the first time, itachi search arc, pain arc and now the war arc. Remember that this have always been extremly short moments and now in the current arc she gets her final development and a little more screentime as usual and everybody is going crazy.

Sakura was by narutos side during nearly the whole part 2 and had a lot of development with him. We also got a lot of parrallels and hints, but as soon as hinata gets a moment everybody seems to forget this.

Question yourself this:
If he really wanted to make NH canon, why didnt he focus more on naruto and hinata during the whole manga instead of sakura?
Why not throw in some parrallels for hinata?
Why make a movie focused on NS?

Some people argue, that this movie is some kind of consolation prize for NS, but i dont think thats true, because the movie also confirms the minato kushina parrallel again, as example with sakura chained the same way as kushina. Why should kishomoto show again that sakura is like kushina after her words to naruto to find someone like her, if that movie was just ment as a consolation prize.

The next thing we have to ask ourself is: What would be the sense of making NH canon now, if we still have over 1 1/2 years to go? Theres just no use for it. It would only block the story. The love triangle wont be resolved, sakura ends up alone or with an abusive guy who tried to kill her. There wont be any drama during the naruto and sasuke fight, because we already know that naruto is with hinata.

The story would end with sakura still loving sasuke, since chapter 3, naruto didnt get the girl hes been chasing after since chapter 3, the whole lovestory between naruto and sakura was useless, the parrallels were useless, kushinas words were useless, sakuras slow change of her feelings was useless and yamatos statement was also useless. In the end the whole dramatic lovestory kishi has been building was useless and had no happy end.

Thats the reason why i see this as hinatas final character development and nothing more. The main charactet gets paired in the end of the manga, so u dont see any reason to worry. Naruto didnt even show a sign of interest in hinata, so why dont we just wait and see if kishi destroys his story with an undeveloped pairing or if he sticks with the pairing that supports the story and characters.

Maaan this post is full of so much win...i just....man.Awsome post.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

We didn't forget it but Kishi apparently has. Naruto being taught another lesson in 615 that he already has been through. Kishi loves disregarding past events to make Hinata shine and make Naruto look like a hopeless child.

Folks, stop thinking just because we remember it automatically means that Kishi is going to keep it in mind. This is Masashi Kishimoto we are talking about it. 615 pretty much just tells you that past events will not work in your favor to dictate the official pairing.

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