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#7641 Living Lavish

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 3 2012, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
he didnt say the sakura's romantic feelings towards naruto were growing he just say that she was unsure of her feelings.
naruto got a lot of achievmentes i want to know what kishimoto's point of view towards this after pain's arc and her confession i'll wait the next databook , since that 540 scene gives a lot of doubts and different interpretations.


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Yes her feelings have been growing and its got to the point shes confused (like it states in the databook)
just because this recent scene like 540 have been shown doesn't mean it disregards past development of NS, otherwise there would be no point of it.
after pain arc the mini databook came out with Narutos still loving Sakura just like it said later on in the manga.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:58 PM

Like i said before 540 stills gives a lot of doubts and different opinions

Edited by Thomas Narusaku, 03 January 2012 - 04:58 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jan 3 2012, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes is true 540 brought us to the edge, but after readers read the MinaKushi, Kushina's advice, Naruto mental image of Hinata and Sakura, plus the fact that after he escape Iruka if you look at the panel he has a mental image of all the close person there ws no Hinata, only Sakura. Hinata only came to Naruto's mind in a positive way when he was scolded By Itashi, The fact that he remenber Hinata event 3 times and don't remember the I love you part create a bib ? mark.

The moment you see Sasuke haven regret about the way treated and start thinking about Sakura in a romantic way, then thats the moment you most panic because all what Naruto want is to see Sakura happy.

Why I believe NaruSaku will happen because Sakura is the heroine, she is trying to make Naruto Happy and she knowing that Naruto will rather see her happy above his own happiness will create a stronger feelings for him. knowing that Naruto was always the right man for her.

That's is why I will always say the moment Naruto tell her how he feels about her, but he know that she may never love him they way she love Sasuke, if Sasuke is the only one that can make her happy well he rather see her happy and always what over her. Men if Sakura don't return his feeling after that speech I will always say that she his a ********(cannot insult Sakyra) and
Kishi was always Gay over Sasuke who prefers to destroy Sakura and Naruto character to make Sasuke look good.

And to my knowledge the Manga is about Naruto Not Sasuke he always plan to make Sasuke bad, not to make he get all the things Naruto wish he could have.

One more thing you most always keep in mind the moment Sasuke and Naruto was about to kill each other the name she call out of desperation was Naruto he was the one her heart call out for, he was the one she did not want to loose, the last time at the hospital roof she call out the two, this time she only call out Naruto.
Ask yourself what will happen if Sasuke die?
What will happen if Naruto die?


That is true about calling out Naruto's name out of desperation when he clashed with Sasuke, he was the one her heart called out. Also when Pain destroyed Konoha she cried out Naruto's name shouting for him to come back because he was the only person she believed in her heart to be the one to save them all.

Edited by Gravenimage, 03 January 2012 - 05:06 PM.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 3 2012, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like i said before 540 stills gives a lot of doubts and different opinions


Well 540 doesn't stop NS from happening either, plus we have enough in canon thats on are side. thats what matters most instead of some rival pairing fans opinion.
So i don't see anything to doubt and usually those other peoples opinions skip over evidence and show incredible ignorance in my experience.

Edited by Living Lavish, 03 January 2012 - 05:23 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:00 PM

i'm not saying that NS is dead or something like that i'm just saying u guys in this forum see 540 like SS is dead that she feels ashmad of her feelings for sasuke but the 540 itself open others differents opinions because its not clearly detailed.
u see the 540 with a opinion formed NS

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:39 PM

We're still talking about 540? facepalm.png
Holy crap, okay..
Are we missing the big image here? Sakura didn't look all gleamy and sparkly and in love when she thought of Sasuke. She looks ashamed of herself for even thinking of have loved him, or something like that. It doesn't mean she's in love with him at all. facepalm.png Everyone needs to calm down.
 
 
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#7647 Thomas

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:42 PM

again its not clearly , until kishimoto make another databook

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 3 2012, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
again its not clearly , until kishimoto make another databook

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540 has nothing to do with databooks when databook 3 CLEARLY states that Sakura is unsure of her feelings for Naruto, that couldn't of been a bigger slap in the face for SS fans. Ever since dataook 3 came out, like I was explaining earlier, Sakura has gotten ever so more close to Naruto. 540 is just a highly misunderstood chapter on the fans part is made out to be a bigger deal than it actually is. This is nonsense, honestly it really is.

 
 
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:02 PM

i still have doubts and it will only be cleared with the databook 4 release

a lot of things happened with sakura and naruto after databook 3 not only 540 but that sakura confession and when she tried to kill sasuke and she said "i knew it"

Edited by Thomas Narusaku, 03 January 2012 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

Men speaking with you is like speaking with a dead horse nothing get true are you really a NaruSaku Fan you comment look more like an ANS fan.

540 show who she like he was never a secret but the way you make it sound, is like Sakura never care about Naruto and that is not true.
we all know, you also know that if he ask her out she will not say no to Naruto any more, because she care about him and she clearly has feelings for him. Sasuke is in the way now not Naruto Sasuke is the one that make them sad.

Edited by donjoseph19, 03 January 2012 - 09:12 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

Oh boy. facepalm.png
Sakura loves Naruto.
Naruto loves Sakura.

Problem solved. biggrin.gif
 
 
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:46 PM

I see 540 not as a set back for NS or a SS moment. Her expressions says it all she looks ashamed, guilty that she used to have feelings for Sasuke (especially the part when the love ninja said that he has to be a great guy). She feels ashamed at how shallowed she used to be when she was younger that she will have a crush on the same person today who wants to destroy Konoha and kill all the people that mean a lot to her (namely Naruto). Another reason for her expression it could be that she failed in her mission to kill him as part of her resolve to protect Naruto from him, but this last one I highly doubt it. I'm not worried with the chapter in general honestly, however if she was thinking of the image of a happy part 1 Sasuke then I would be worry but that's not the case. She was thinking of the current part 2 Sasuke who is a complete different from the Sasuke who used to be her teammate and her first crush.

There are various reasons why Sakura is hurt with this whole thing about Sasuke:

-ciardha has pin pointed out many times that like Naruto she holds a strong bond for team seven. She treasures the teammate bond more than any other Konoha ninja team. Without Sasuke the team is shattered and thus she cares for Sasuke because of the bond they forged as team seven, and she considers him very important the same way Naruto sees him.

-The other reason is because she's also suffering for Naruto for what he's going through with Sasuke. I think if she sees Naruto in pain she's in pain too because she understands him very well of the pain he's going through. Mutual understanding is one of the steps of true love, after close friendship and trust.

Edited by Gravenimage, 03 January 2012 - 09:57 PM.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jan 3 2012, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Men speaking with you is like speaking with a dead horse nothing get true you are you really a NaruSaku Fan you comment look more like an ANS fan.

540show who she like he was never a secret but you way you make it sound, is like Sakura never care about Naruto and that is not true
we all know yoe know that if he ask her out she will not say no because she care about him and she clearly has feelings for him Sasuke is in the way now not Naruto Sasuke is the one that make them sad.


every comment that is not equal to your u say that is ANS , i make my comments with no opinion formed and any background , what u and fenris are doing is the same that NH fans do trying to force the others to accept ur opinions, i'm saying that naruto loves sakura but sakura is unsure of her feelings .
i will only say that the other pairings are dead . after reading the databook 4 , because all those facts are open to differents interpretations , take 540 for example u can say that she is still in love with sasuke because she said "there is someome that i'm in love with.." and then she remembers of sasuke and feels sad for him, or u can say that she is ashmed of her feeling we got two differents interpretations and the two are correct and wrong at the same time.

second part in that meeting sakura and sasuke, when she arrives she wanted to go with sasuke but after realizing that he wanted to destroy konoha i realized that her feeling for sasuke are no the same because in part 1 she wanted to go with him, leaving behind naruto and everyone
but now she choose to kill him instead of going with him, because she cant leave naruto behind or betray him , i think naruto weakened her love for sasuke.

i want to read the databook 4 because i want to know what is kishimoto interpretation towards those facts

Edited by Thomas Narusaku, 03 January 2012 - 07:59 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 3 2012, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see 540 not as a set back for NS or a SS moment. Her expressions says it all she looks ashamed, guilty that she used to have feelings for Sasuke (especially the part when the love ninja said that he used to be a great guy). She feels ashamed at how shallowed she used to be when she was younger that she will have a crush on the same person today who wants to destroy Konoha and kill all the people that mean a lot to her (namely Naruto). Another reason for her expression it could be that she failed in her mission to kill him as part of her resolve to protect Naruto from him, but this last one I highly doubt it. I'm not worried with the chapter in general honestly, however if she was thinking of the image of a happy part 1 Sasuke then I would be worry but that's not the case. She was thinking of the current part 2 Sasuke who is a complete different from the Sasuke who used to be her teammate and her first crush.

There are various reasons why Sakura is hurt with this whole thing about Sasuke:

-ciardha has pin pointed out many times that like Naruto she holds a strong bond for team seven. She treasures the teammate bond more than any other Konoha ninja team. Without Sasuke the team is shattered and thus she cares for Sasuke because of the bond they forged as team seven, and she considers him very important the same way Naruto sees him.

-The other reason is because she's also suffering for Naruto for what he's going through with Sasuke. I think if she sees Naruto in pain she's in pain too because she understands him very well of the pain he's going through. Mutual understanding is one of the steps of true love, after close friendship and trust.

Exactly. You hit it right on the nail. smile.gif
When Sakura feels pain, Naruto feels pain, when Naruto feels pain, Sakura feels pain.
 
 
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 3 2012, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
every comment that is not equal to your u say that is ANS , i make my comments with no opinion formed and any background , what u and fenris are doing is the same that NH fans do trying to force the others to accept ur opinions, i'm saying that naruto loves sakura but sakura is unsure of her feelings .
i will only say that the other pairings are dead . after reading the databook 4 , because all those facts are open to differents interpretations , take 540 for example u can say that she is still in love with sasuke because she said "there is someome that i'm in love with.." and then she remembers of sasuke and feels sad for him, or u can say that she is ashmed of her feeling we got two differents interpretations and the two are correct and wrong at the same time.
second part in that meeting sakura and sasuke, when she arrives she wanted to go with sasuke but after realizing that he wanted to destroy konoha i realized that her feeling for sasuke are no the same because in part 1 she wanted to go with him, leaving behind naruto and everyone
but now she choose to kill him instead of going with him, because she cant leave naruto behind or betray him , i think naruto weakened her love for sasuke.

i want to read the databook 4 because i want to know what is kishimoto interpretation towards those facts



Sakura say there is someone. she never say that there is someone I love that word for some reason he was missing.

About 540 From the moment she hit Sai for bad mauthing Sasuke kun I know that she still have feelings for him and the confession say it all he break her heart and like all girls she is not happy about it. She wants to be with Sasuke, but does Sakura really love Sasuke or she still fighting for her silly fantacy. Sakura think that Sasuke is cool, hot and she have that idea for 8 years if there was another reason don't you think we should already know.
That is why her fate need to be restore by Naruto, that is why when Konoha 11 was ready to kill him she only think about Naruto and not Sasuke, that's why she call Naruto name and not Sasuke name when they clash, that is why she tell Naruto is ok he don't need to keep that promise, it's only because of Naruto she still think about him I cannot call that love I call it silly reason to love someone.

No one in this manga has question Sakura about her feeling for Sasuke only Kakashi notice her silly crush. Sakura already ask herself if this feeling are for Naruto, Yamato speech even Sai comented about it and he has no emotions.

Since chapter 3 we was given the reason why Naruto love Sakura since that chapter whe know that thinks will start to change between them.
The feelings Sakura has for Naruto are alot stronger than the feelings she has for Sasuke, but when you have a crush and a person he will always blind you fron the person you really love, only life and death situation will make you see those feelings or when that person step away from your life for good, that't is when you will start to miss him.
If Sakura hug Sasuke and think about Naruto's love SS is over.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:04 PM

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Thomas has a right to express himself of his ideas regarding the NS pairing, it's not that he's anti. He has the right to doubt according to his ideas, remember this is the debate thread everyone has a right to express his/her ideas and opinions here. If Thomas wants to doubt that Sasuke is a big stepping stone for NS to become canon then let him believe it, although I believe the big stepping stone to prevent that from happening is Naruto himself because of his big devotion to find a way to save Sasuke from the hatred and revenge.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jan 3 2012, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Men speaking with you is like speaking with a dead horse nothing get true are you really a NaruSaku Fan you comment look more like an ANS fan.


One of my biggest pet peeves is fans dictating to other people who is really a fan, especially when the accusation arises over differences of opinion.

What gives you or anyone else the right to set the terms of what is a legitimate NS fan?

And, two, it's a freaking fandom. It's entertainment. Are we really wasting space over whether someone is really a NS fan or Anti-NS?

I tend to hate die-hard fans of virtually all enterainment mediums (sports, videos games, movies) because of crap like this.

I don't mean to get upset, but I see way too much of this.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 3 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
donjoseph19@

Thomas has a right to express himself of his ideas regarding the NS pairing, it's not that he's anti. He has the right to doubt according to his ideas, remember this is the debate thread everyone has a right to express his/her ideas and opinions here. If Thomas wants to doubt that Sasuke is a big stepping stone for NS to become canon then let him believe it, although I believe the big stepping stone to prevent that from happening is Naruto himself because of his big devotion to find a way to save Sasuke from the hatred and revenge.


i dont think naruto's devotion to sasuke is the problem

i think its simply naruto not trying harder with sakura.

sakura just doesnt get any of these signals. i mean she feels something but isnt sure what it is. naruto has to literally TELL HER how he feels.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:06 AM

Yeah, you guys are both arguing two side of the same coin. The scenes and situations are deliberately vauge. One fan decides nothing is set until Kishimoto confirms everything, the other fan leaps ahead to a likely conclusion. But in the end, they are both assumptions. Neither side has any more information than the other. You can only acknowledge the difference of opinion and move on. Because it can easily lead to bashing.

Anyway, I have some other conundrums:

What do you think Sakura was going to say when she is speaking to the group about her plans to confront Naruto about Sasuke's death warrant? The panel leaves off with her saying to them "And one last thing...." What on earth could she have been talking about? It couldn't have been the confession, because they were all surprised. So what could it have been? (I can't remember what chapter it's from. I've searched and can't find it, and now I'm out of time. If anyone knows please post it. The last line might be a bit different than I remember.)

And Naruto says to Sakura on top of the hospital building to never interfere with their fight again. It's such a strange, strong statement. And it doesn't seem to be entirely out of concern for her wellbeing. Almost like a threat. Do you think it's foreshadowing of another showdown, where there's the possibility Sakura does interfere and gets seriously injured? (And remember Hinata.... What if Kishimoto takes it up a notch, shows Sakura being killed (the appearance of it) and Naruto loosing control?) So do you think the statement is foreshadowing or not?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:09 AM

GREAT!!! facepalm.png I was starting to forget about 540 and it's brought up again! WHATEVER it was I was still distressed by it so can we just drop the subject please? why you ask? because it just threw any positive or improving concept of Sakura in the blender! You know what some fans are saying? that she's a lying B**** that feels nothing for Naruto and and does not deserve him, so she should just go die with her beloved SASUKE-KUN and whatnot. Lets just leave that as it is and discuss something else, I beg all of you. zomg.gif

Edited by Phantom_999, 04 January 2012 - 12:11 AM.

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