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[Nate River]

I been reading some replay not all yet but keep in mind what I'm stating here is about revelation they can be true or false, whe don't know anythung about Sakura's past yet Sakura doesn't know about Naruto's past and Naruto don't know about Sakura's past. It do not have to be about NaruHina.

I think that statement is false because Kishi will not make the Sakura confession if he know that after he will show the reader that there are relative, the only reason why I think about it is becuase they mention things that did not happen when the prediction was created.

It's impossible that they are blood siblings. The two most damning things to the theory are (1) Kushina having to ask about labor pains just before Naruto is born (I'm sure any woman can tell you, if you have been through labor, you know) and (2) dying after Naruto is born.

They only way for the theory to be true is to outright contradict one of those two things or make the bizzare claim that the child Kushina is carrying at the time of the question was Sakura, which likewise, makes no sense and also contradicts the back story.

The closest is half-siblings with Minato as the common parent and given what that implies, I'd say the odds are somewhere near zero that this is the case.

[Greed-Sama]

Are we seriously questioning if Sakura and Naruto are blood-related siblings?

That assumption is not based in any facts. Might as well say that Kushina is actually Tobi.

[Thomas]

this thing really annoys me , minato could see everything from naruto ( he knew about jyraia's death) and kushina could ot say anything like, hey i approve sakura!! yay ...
just kidding

Edited by Thomas Narusaku, 02 January 2012 - 10:19 PM.

[Nate River]

Are we seriously questioning if Sakura and Naruto are blood-related siblings?

That assumption is not based in any facts. Might as well say that Kushina is actually Tobi.

Yeah.

It's impossible for a site with an accuracy rate that high to predict something that stupid. They must mean simply that there relationship is like one.

[Fenris]

Naruto and Sakura definitely don't have a brother / sister bond, either. It pushes way past friendship boundries.

Edited by Fenris, 02 January 2012 - 10:23 PM.

[Super Boom]

I don't really have much to say on Naruto and Sakura being blood-relatives, but I think Nate said it best. Unless Kishi were to retcon Kushina's flashback arc, it's pretty much impossible for them to be full-siblings, and very unlikely for them to be half-siblings. It's possible for them to be cousins I guess, but I don't really understand what that sort of revelation would really accomplish at this point in the manga. It might help resolve the love triangle, but I'm not sure if marriage between cousins has the same implication in Japan as it does in the West. So I'm not sure if that revelation will accomplish what many think it would.

Now, as to the argument that Naruto and Sakura see each other as siblings, I guess I could potentially see that. I don't think it's likely, considering Naruto's been in love with/has had a crush on her for a good portion of the manga. But even if it was the case, it's definitely not the end of the line for us. The whole brother/sister thing between comrades/childhood friends seems to be used a lot in Japanese writing, and I'm sure many of those relationships have escalated into romantic pairings. The first example that comes to mind is Ed/Win on FMA, but I'm sure there are plenty of others. It's one thing if the author resolves N/S that way after a hypothetical S/S or N/H ending. But it seems kind of ridiculous to predict something like that happening, since there's really no way to tell which way the brother/sister thing will go.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 02 January 2012 - 11:00 PM.

[Derock]

Keep in mind that these "siblings" arguments are just arguments for NaruHina and SasuSaku (and other rival pairings) to happen because the fans doesn't like the "Main guy likes/loves Main Girl" cliche and are currently trying their best to gain favor of those pairings to move up past NaruSaku as they were the ones that was introduced first as they see fit (well, NaruHina didn't boost up until the anime started). OR, they don't like the fact that this "A" character likes "B" character and should be with either "C" or "D" character because a) hate the character(s), or b) using some modern Western POV in terms of romance of a story.

Plus its impossible to say Naruto and Sakura are indeed siblings/cousins/family, etc. Unless it is confirmed from one or the other that they see the relationship that way by said character (like Rowling did with Harry Potter). I seriously doubt that Kishi will confirm it with another Kushina flashback. It sounds very off, not to mention it is very unrealistic, even in fiction.

[Don-kun]

I don't really have much to say on Naruto and Sakura being blood-relatives, but I think Nate said it best. Unless Kishi were to retcon Kushina's flashback arc, it's pretty much impossible for them to be full-siblings, and very unlikely for them to be half-siblings. It's possible for them to be cousins I guess, but I don't really understand what that sort of revelation would really accomplish at this point in the manga. It might help resolve the love triangle, but I'm not sure if marriage between cousins has the same implication in Japan as it does in the West. So I'm not sure if that revelation will accomplish what many think it would.

Now, as to the argument that Naruto and Sakura see each other as siblings, I guess I could potentially see that. I don't think it's likely, considering Naruto's been in love with/has had a crush on her for a good portion of the manga. But even if it was the case, it's definitely not the end of the line for us. The whole brother/sister thing between comrades/childhood friends seems to be used a lot in Japanese writing, and I'm sure many of those relationships have escalated into romantic pairings. The first example that comes to mind is Ed/Win on FMA, but I'm sure there are plenty of others. It's one thing if the author resolves N/S that way after a hypothetical S/S or N/H ending. But it seems kind of ridiculous to predict something like that happening, since there's really no way to tell which way the brother/sister thing will go.

That was the word looking for but I could not spell it right ''cousins'' Far cousins something to do with Kushina
as I mention before he may be bias or a NH fan fairy.

I was only worry because the prediction was made of Kishi interview and many thing that guy say Happen in the manga I wish I could find that page again.

But I really think is bias why make Naruto in love with her and why make Sakura confess to him if you will make a revelation like that later why make NaruSaku that obvios.

[Phantom_999]

Keep in mind that these "siblings" arguments are just arguments for NaruHina and SasuSaku (and other rival pairings) to happen because the fans doesn't like the "Main guy likes/loves Main Girl" cliche and are currently trying their best to gain favor of those pairings to move up past NaruSaku as they were the ones that was introduced first as they see fit (well, NaruHina didn't boost up until the anime started). OR, they don't like the fact that this "A" character likes "B" character and should be with either "C" or "D" character because a) hate the character(s), or b) using some modern Western POV in terms of romance of a story.

Plus its impossible to say Naruto and Sakura are indeed siblings/cousins/family, etc. Unless it is confirmed from one or the other that they see the relationship that way by said character (like Rowling did with Harry Potter). I seriously doubt that Kishi will confirm it with another Kushina flashback. It sounds very off, not to mention it is very unrealistic, even in fiction.

If Sakura and Naruto were sibling's She'd be an orphan too and they'd have to be TWINS. OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! What've you got for that NH and SS? ..........I thought so.

Edited by Phantom_999, 03 January 2012 - 12:04 AM.

[Nate River]

Keep in mind that these "siblings" arguments are just arguments for NaruHina and SasuSaku (and other rival pairings) to happen because the fans doesn't like the "Main guy likes/loves Main Girl" cliche and are currently trying their best to gain favor of those pairings to move up past NaruSaku as they were the ones that was introduced first as they see fit (well, NaruHina didn't boost up until the anime started). OR, they don't like the fact that this "A" character likes "B" character and should be with either "C" or "D" character because a) hate the character(s), or b) using some modern Western POV in terms of romance of a story.

Plus its impossible to say Naruto and Sakura are indeed siblings/cousins/family, etc. Unless it is confirmed from one or the other that they see the relationship that way by said character (like Rowling did with Harry Potter). I seriously doubt that Kishi will confirm it with another Kushina flashback. It sounds very off, not to mention it is very unrealistic, even in fiction.

That's what I keep asking. Is the prediction that they ARE blood siblings or like siblings? Big difference(at least the latter is technically possible without obliterating the manga timeline), but from what donjoseph just said they are predicting cousins? Yeah, it would resolve the love triangle especially if they were first cousins, but man, that would be such a lazy cop-out and the whole drama surrounding all of it would have been such a waste.

So, out of nowhere Kushina or Minato has a unmentioned sibling that had Sakura and BAM! problem solved? Wouldn't that be blatant Deus Ex Machina and, well, a bit of really terrible writing.

That's kind of thing bad fanfics do to spare fans the hurt of seeing someone "lose."

Who would want that except those pairing fans who only care about claiming "victory?"

And, hell, even if marrying first cousins is acceptable in Japan why on earth would you do that when you pair them anyway? No good reason for that.

And with that, I'm done. If people want to discuss the 'like siblings" I am up for it, but I'm done with the they are siblings because it's so completely illogical and contradicts established development so blatantly that it's not worth taking seriously (I regret spending the time on it I have, but it needs a stake driven thought it)

If he does that, I might have to pretend I never read this manga.

[God of All Shinobi]

The databooks say otherwise, when it was asked about Sakura's feelings for Naruto she said she did not know.

[Thomas]

databook is outdated , it stopped before the pain's arc so we cant use it for debates here any longer

[Fenris]

databook is outdated , it stopped before the pain's arc so we cant use it for debates here any longer

...Actually, we can. It's still recent, it's not like it's Part one's first databook. When that databook came out, it was say, around the middle of shippuden/beginning. Sakura's feelings for Naruto were unsure, if anything her love for him would of just grew and blossomed since then.

[Thomas]

a lot of things happened between naruto and sakura after that databook
that why i say its outdated

[Fenris]

a lot of things happened between naruto and sakura after that databook
that why i say its outdated

And that's why I say her love for him would of only blossomed since that databook.
In a way we're both exactly correct, cause like you said a lot of stuff happened after that.
It's not outdated, though - it's just more proof we have that her love for him blossomed since that time in the databook.

I mean how much more obvious could it be to the other fandom...

Kishi writes Sakura's feelings are unsure in databook.
Sakura is shown growing closer to Naruto throughout the manga after the release of said databook.

Edited by Fenris, 03 January 2012 - 02:15 PM.

[Thomas]

databook is outdated in ur point of view u say that sakura feelings are growing towards naruto
but i want to know the writer's point of view
that why i say its outdated

[Fenris]

databook is outdated in ur point of view u say that sakura feelings are growing towards naruto
but i want to know the writer's point of view
that why i say its outdated

You're misunderstanding me I think. I'm saying that from that point in the databook when the databook was released, was around that time Sakura's feelings were growing towards Naruto and just kept growing into the love we see revolving around both Sakura and Naruto to this date.

So its like intentional, Kishi wrote that, and then Sakura's love for Naruto just kept growing into what we seen today.

[Don-kun]

I thought it was negative but I see people who are much more negative than me.
Since Shippuden the NaruSaku relation has been more and more obvios, sure there has been some moment that make you want to rage, but if I look a Sakura part one vs. part two the difference is very big.

After a good interaction between Sakura and Naruto I may say that there is something or there is nothing, look at all the event that happen since 457 there is no way they can act normal about what they think about each other anymore.
Someone will say something, now think why kishi will make 99 chapters past with out Sakura and Naruto haven a good 20 minutes chat I may be wrong but there is not a single manga in history where the fimale lead don't peak with main character for that long and worse after a confession that could end the friendship.

The only reason I see for that is Kishi not been ready to end the pairing war yet, he is reaching the end of his story and he want to keep reader and not loose the ones that only read the Manga bacause of pairing.

Homestly after all what happen between Naruto and Sakura no one can honestly say that after a good 20 minutes and honest talk pairing war will not end.

Something more I want to add:

NH is too good to be true there need to be a balance this is not a Romance manga where the shy girl never know the hero in a personal way but because she say that she love him he will say I love you too.

SS is too bad for millions of people tastes it's just too bad, plus there will always be the factor that he chose revenge over her and disregard her love and we all see what he was about to do to Sakura only to accomplish his revenche.

NS there is good and bad but the moment they are fully honest with each other that will strengthen the relationship and create more trust between The two there is no relation made of fairy tail none.

Edited by donjoseph19, 03 January 2012 - 03:16 PM.

[Thomas]

he didnt say the sakura's romantic feelings towards naruto were growing he just say that she was unsure of her feelings.
naruto got a lot of achievmentes i want to know what kishimoto's point of view towards this after pain's arc and her confession i'll wait the next databook , since that 540 scene gives a lot of doubts and different interpretations.

[Don-kun]

he didnt say the sakura's romantic feelings towards naruto were growing he just say that she was unsure of her feelings.
naruto got a lot of achievmentes i want to know what kishimoto's point of view towards this after pain's arc and her confession i'll wait the next databook , since that 540 scene gives a lot of doubts and different interpretations.

Yes is true 540 brought us to the edge, but after readers read the MinaKushi, Kushina's advice, Naruto mental image of Hinata and Sakura, plus the fact that after he escape Iruka if you look at the panel he has a mental image of all the close person there ws no Hinata, only Sakura. Hinata only came to Naruto's mind in a positive way when he was scolded By Itashi, The fact that he remenber Hinata event 3 times and don't remember the I love you part create a bib ? mark.

The moment you see Sasuke haven regret about the way treated and start thinking about Sakura in a romantic way, then thats the moment you most panic because all what Naruto want is to see Sakura happy.

Why I believe NaruSaku will happen because Sakura is the heroine, she is trying to make Naruto Happy and she knowing that Naruto will rather see her happy above his own happiness will create a stronger feelings for him. knowing that Naruto was always the right man for her.

That's is why I will always say the moment Naruto tell her how he feels about her, but he know that she may never love him they way she love Sasuke, if Sasuke is the only one that can make her happy well he rather see her happy and always what over her. Men if Sakura don't return his feeling after that speech I will always say that she his a ********(cannot insult Sakyra) and

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Kishi was always Gay over Sasuke who prefers to destroy Sakura and Naruto character to make Sasuke look good.

And to my knowledge the Manga is about Naruto Not Sasuke he always plan to make Sasuke bad, not to make he get all the things Naruto wish he could have.

One more thing you most always keep in mind the moment Sasuke and Naruto was about to kill each other the name she call out of desperation was Naruto he was the one her heart call out for, he was the one she did not want to loose, the last time at the hospital roof she call out the two, this time she only call out Naruto.
Ask yourself what will happen if Sasuke die?
What will happen if Naruto die?

Edited by donjoseph19, 03 January 2012 - 04:46 PM.