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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

. Who knows. Kuruma can be the Joker card.

Lastly, about the off-panel. Again, it won't be off-panel development FOR Naruto. Sai's flashback is something that we already know as readers; however, the reason for this is to persuade Sai to talk to Sakura about Naruto's overdoings for the sake of her love and his own dream (rescue Sasuke). Well, we did get a reason why he didn't confess, but not really a development, more like understanding his thoughts when he failed the mission back in part 1. Besides, for Hinata and Naruto, there wasn't any room and remember, when they met in the battlefield, it implies that they never talk until now. It's the same as Konohamaru. When he did genjutsu on the guards, Naruto finally commented on his good work success to protect and managed to get stronger. Well, that's all for now. Happy New Year, everyone!

Yep note that he was more focused on bringing him back than saving him, since the promised has been lifted he only talks about "save" Sasuke.
And the fact that Sasuke didnt disposed of Team Taka reinforces it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yep note that he was more focused on bringing him back than saving him, since the promised has been lifted he only talks about "save" Sasuke.
And the fact that Sasuke didnt disposed of Team Taka reinforces it.

Saving Sasuke is bringing back (not physically). Bringing back to the good side. There are many ways to interpret as "saving." He can die, but the fact he's happy and sacrifice for Naruto is considered saving Sasuke. At least in other anime/manga usually means, and you know what, that's not bad at all. I don't think he will die, but I don't think he will return, especially the world hate him. I can see a talk between Naruto and Sakura about failing to bring him back to Konoha, but Sakura will tell him it's fine, as long he is good and considered Team 7 as his family. That will be the true meaning of bonds. He doesn't need to be there, but acknowledging Team 7 is good enough. It's like in One Piece. They truly die when they are forgotten. God, I love that scene. For that, as long as Sasuke is acknowledged, everything is at peace.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Saving Sasuke is bringing back (not physically). Bringing back to the good side. There are many ways to interpret as "saving." He can die, but the fact he's happy and sacrifice for Naruto is considered saving Sasuke. At least in other anime/manga usually means, and you know what, that's not bad at all. I don't think he will die, but I don't think he will return, especially the world hate him. I can see a talk between Naruto and Sakura about failing to bring him back to Konoha, but Sakura will tell him it's fine, as long he is good and considered Team 7 as his family. That will be the true meaning of bonds. He doesn't need to be there, but acknowledging Team 7 is good enough. It's like in One Piece. They truly die when they are forgotten. God, I love that scene. For that, as long as Sasuke is acknowledged, everything is at peace.

What i said is Naruto always said "i'll bring sasuke back to the village or just bringing him back(which the context is to bring him back to the village" as a remind of the promise, the promise is lifted but he has reasons to save him, but his save while the context does nto say "back to the village" is just about to save him from the evil's path now.
For me is a foreshadowing that Sasuke will not come back to the village.

[Tendo Ryuken]

2)When the anime will arrive at this point, I'm pretty sure that they'll make at least 5 episodes centred on this gesture making more canon this crap of NH. We all know how they're biased about Hinata. Remember that BS from Pain Arc?

disagree. the anime is 'rating' biased, not hinata biased

proof? naruto said in a filler episode on a filler arc (adventure at the sea arc) that he loves sakura to the princess of nadeshiko. which we can't find anywhere in the manga. we dont have any solid evidence about naruto's feeling towards sakura since around pain invasion arc (after jiraiya's death to be exact) besides of sai's memory. and in my calculation, the scene on sai's memory happened during kakuzu and hidan arc.

more proof? sakura's screen time vs hinata's screen time in the manga is about 2 vs 7, but in the anime its about 4 vs 20.

no no no, im not going to say that the anime is sakura biased. the thing i want to say is that the anime team would do everything for the best rating

[Liu bie]

But back to the whole Naruto kinda sheltering Sakura from feeling for him (like if he's injured or in danger), maybe that could mean something in the future.

I don't recall any big moments of one of the K11 truly stating that he WILL be Hokage and they will help (I keep thinking maybe Shikamaru did though) It would be cool if Sakura not only stated she would stand up to protect his life, but also if she stood up to help him accomplish his dreams during this war.

Shhh. Kishi will hear you then Sakura will die, but the stand up think is better.

[TouKen4Life3g]

What i said is Naruto always said "i'll bring sasuke back to the village or just bringing him back(which the context is to bring him back to the village" as a remind of the promise, the promise is lifted but he has reasons to save him, but his save while the context does nto say "back to the village" is just about to save him from the evil's path now.
For me is a foreshadowing that Sasuke will not come back to the village.

Indeed. It won't make things better once he learns the truth as well. It most likely phase him to change the world for his own good, rather for all. This is where Naruto will fight him.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

disagree. the anime is 'rating' biased, not hinata biased

proof? naruto said in a filler episode on a filler arc (adventure at the sea arc) that he loves sakura to the princess of nadeshiko. which we can't find anywhere in the manga. we dont have any solid evidence about naruto's feeling towards sakura since around pain invasion arc (after jiraiya's death to be exact) besides of sai's memory. and in my calculation, the scene on sai's memory happened during kakuzu and hidan arc.

more proof? sakura's screen time vs hinata's screen time in the manga is about 2 vs 7, but in the anime its about 4 vs 20.

no no no, im not going to say that the anime is sakura biased. the thing i want to say is that the anime team would do everything for the best rating

Why Naruto didnt reject this then?
When sakura asked if you dont like me say so and Sai when he told the truth.
Even kishimoto stated this on his interview that Naruto's close.
And moreover it's rather annoying the hero to reinforce his feelings every arc just to shut up the fans.
You're just in denial.
Sakura's screen time, dude you forgot that Hinata was introduced on part 2 30 chapters later, after it started, and during the summit arc she only appears at the ending of it along with neji and the others.
but ofc we have to ignore all the 600 chapters and count only the last 50.

[AzureWaters]

The anime tends to give good animation to most pairing moments. Remember that after 166 they still made the OVA, which had NaruSaku. In my opinion Pierrot will give this chapter excellent scenery, but that doesn't necessarily mean its because of a specific ship or character bias.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The anime tends to give good animation to most pairing moments. Remember that after 166 they still made the OVA, which had NaruSaku. In my opinion Pierrot will give this chapter excellent scenery, but that doesn't necessarily mean its because of a specific ship or character bias.

But this mean that fights must have sh*tty animation?
Naruto is a battleshounen.

[AzureWaters]

Yeah well the anime has always catered to shippy stuff.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yeah well the anime has always catered to shippy stuff.

This is the reason why Naruto is considered trash, if we remove the pairing things we would have a better story.

[Tendo Ryuken]

Why Naruto didnt reject this then?
When sakura asked if you dont like me say so and Sai when he told the truth.

did he accept

Even kishimoto stated this on his interview that Naruto's close.

im curious about this. can you give me the details? i might have missed something

And moreover it's rather annoying the hero to reinforce his feelings every arc just to shut up the fans.
You're just in denial.

thats rude. how come im denial?

Sakura's screen time, dude you forgot that Hinata was introduced on part 2 30 chapters later, after it started, and during the summit arc she only appears at the ending of it along with neji and the others.
but ofc we have to ignore all the 600 chapters and count only the last 50.

you can count yourself if you dont believe me. sakura's screentime in the anime is much more. and don't forget that im opposing his idea that the anime is hinata biased

[AzureWaters]

This is the reason why Naruto is considered trash, if we remove the pairing things we would have a better story.

Are you sure about that? Without it you wouldn't have NS.

Well at least the pairing wars are entertaining. I'd probably get bored with Naruto without all the drama.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Are you sure about that? Without it you wouldn't have NS.

Well at least the pairing wars are entertaining. I'd probably get bored with Naruto without all the drama.

Uan Piss.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

did he accept


im curious about this. can you give me the details? i might have missed something

Road to ninja thread or Kishimoto Interview thread.

thats rude. how come im denial?

It's not rude you're making an assumption based on another assumption.

you can count yourself if you dont believe me. sakura's screentime in the anime is much more. and don't forget that im opposing his idea that the anime is hinata biased

The anime is hinata's biased, sakura's screentime is big only when hinata's is not around, take a good look on the recent filler arc.
They even give healing powers to Hinata, instead of giving her a first aid kit which she uses on the manga and much more.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well I wouldn't say without pairing war, there will be no NS. Battle Shounen is usually easy to tell who's going who unless it ends abruptly. Other than that, I do like the take on Naruto, though it needs to be reminded that it's not a love story. It's about one man who is trying to overcome the odds in the supernatural world.

[Tendo Ryuken]

Road to ninja thread or Kishimoto Interview thread.

thanks. going to check out

It's not rude you're making an assumption based on another assumption.

i didn't even make any assumption. the thing i said just that theres no solid evidence ..... since ..... etc etc etc

if you are talking about sai's memory, look at this:

1. the setting is konoha before destroyed
2. sai already read books to understand human's feeling
3. naruto's hand didnt get injured
4. sakura said that she was going to report to kakashi. which mean sai already met kakashi

again. you can try to figure out about this yourself if you dont believe me

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

thanks. going to check out


i didn't even make any assumption. the thing i said just that theres no solid evidence ..... since ..... etc etc etc

if you are talking about sai's memory, look at this:

1. the setting is konoha before destroyed
2. sai already read books to understand human's feeling
3. naruto's hand didnt get injured
4. sakura said that she was going to report to kakashi. which mean sai already met kakashi

again. you can try to figure out about this yourself if you dont believe me

So because it you're making an assumption that he does not love Sakura anymore? based on the assumption that hinata's confession suddenly make Naruto have feelings for her based on the assumption that he move on from Sakura because he knows that she loves someome else based on anther assumption that his feelings for Sakura are not important.
Okay.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 January 2013 - 07:28 PM.

[Tendo Ryuken]

So because it you're making an assumption that he does not love Sakura anymore? based on the assumption that hinata's confession suddenly make Naruto have feelings for her based on the assumption that he move on from Sakura because he knows that she loves someome else based on anther assumption that his feelings for Sakura are not important.
Okay.

lol, it seems that you are the one who was assuming my assumption.

i have to point the bolded one. if you thought i was thinking that way, you are wrong. its a common nh opinion but not mine.

[luffyq1]

You wanna know what's absolutely kittening retarded? The people that actually think Naruto's feelings for Sakura are fading away, when he's constantly spending so much time with her. And to follow up on that claim and say he's going to eventually have feelings for Hinata when he's rarely spent any time with her in this series. In other words:

More time you spend with that person = your feelings for that person fade away

Less time you spend with that person = your feelings increase

Dat NH logic 4 ya.