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[FoolishYoungling]

Don't look at me Maybe he's just another crazy NS fan?

I don't get why he would be one of those... FREAKS! Like, I get that Sakura has always been there for him, and that he loves her, but Hinata has.... always... watched Naruto. And now she is taking action by doing MAJOR things. Like getting Neji killed. Oh... that's not a good thing.

[Shadow1275]

I don't get why he would be one of those... FREAKS! Like, I get that Sakura has always been there for him, and that he loves her, but Hinata has.... always... watched Naruto. And now she is taking action by doing MAJOR things. Like getting Neji killed. Oh... that's not a good thing.

Oh C'mon, I mean it wasn't just Neji's sacrifice that saved him and her speech did make him feel better. I think???

[FoolishYoungling]

Oh C'mon, I mean it wasn't just Neji's sacrifice that saved him and her speech did make him feel better. I think???

Yeah, Naruto was completely encouraged by Hinata before Kurama spoke to him.

[Shadow1275]

Yeah, Naruto was completely encouraged by Hinata before Kurama spoke to him.

Yeah and the that was no chakra trans-ARRRGGGHHH. I can't do this anymore. It's just too hard to twist around all this evidence when everything is pointing the opposite way.

Besides, I have a confession to make

[FoolishYoungling]

Besides, I have a confession to make

???

[Shadow1275]

???

I'm a NS fan

[FoolishYoungling]

I'm a NS fan

Dude, really? I'm not your friend anymore. I can't handle you clueless little NS fa-... *breaks loose from curse*. I'm free!!!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh you guys. But really, this movie shouldn't exist if Kishi is going to another direction. Even if he wants to do a favor for NS fans, which I doubt completely, it will still look bad in his records. Not even movies from other anime trying to make one couple canon only to not happen by making another couple happen.

[StrikerTheNoble]

I think Kishi should be rather angry. He goes to all the trouble as depicting Naruto`s love for Sakura as near perfect. But there are so many people that want him to end up with someone else. I would be very angry.

@NS4L I agree completly. His love for her is probably one of the strongest loves even outside the Manga. So who da fq is Hinata?

[Codus N]

It's his fault in the first place. If he had intended on one pairing that is canon at the end, then he didn't need to use love triangles. That'd simply confuse his readers even more. As far as I can see, this love triangle stuff just serves to make the series' quality stuff even lower.

[StrikerTheNoble]

It's his fault in the first place. If he had intended on one pairing that is canon at the end, then he didn't need to use love triangles. That'd simply confuse his readers even more. As far as I can see, this love triangle stuff just serves to make the series' quality stuff even lower.

The point of Naruto`s character is that he doesn`t have it easy. Everything he does must be a chalenge. So why would one of his life goals be a piece of cake. If Sakura never had a crush on Sasuke NS would be cannon a long time ago. But Naruto can`t have it that easy or else the joy of the journey is no longer there.

[StrawHatNaruto]

The point of Naruto`s character is that he doesn`t have it easy. Everything he does must be a chalenge. So why would one of his life goals be a piece of cake. If Sakura never had a crush on Sasuke NS would be cannon a long time ago. But Naruto can`t have it that easy or else the joy of the journey is no longer there.

Exactly, I would think that the relationship between the two wouldn't be as engaging or exciting if there wasn't any conflict or an obstacle they have to face. Same goes for Naruhina, I don't find it as interesting because they have no conflict between the two of them. If there was no "Love Triangle" (Sakura-Sasuke or Hinata-Naruto) I can honestly say it would be boring because we know that NS is going to happen. But by putting in these extra factors of "this person loves him but the other loves someone else" it makes it a better story overall.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Exactly, I would think that the relationship between the two wouldn't be as engaging or exciting if there wasn't any conflict or an obstacle they have to face. Same goes for Naruhina, I don't find it as interesting because they have no conflict between the two of them. If there was no "Love Triangle" (Sakura-Sasuke or Hinata-Naruto) I can honestly say it would be boring because we know that NS is going to happen. But by putting in these extra factors of "this person loves him but the other loves someone else" it makes it a better story overall.

That's true. I see it as a double-edged sword. It can be good and bad at the same time, especially depending on how you do it. It's one of the reason why I ship this pairing.

[Codus N]

Trying to change Sasuke is hard enough.... I just think there were better ways to handle the romance.

If Kishi wanted to put an obstacle in the romance department, then this trope should do the trick: It's not you, It's my enemies. Kishi could've easily tried having Naruto distance himself from Sakura for this reason. The biggest problem with romance in this manga is that Kishi's trying too hard at something he doesn't even know how to. If you don't know how to write something, but want to write it anyways, then keep it simple. Don't force yourself

[StrawHatNaruto]

Trying to change Sasuke is hard enough.... I just think there were better ways to handle the romance.

If Kishi wanted to put an obstacle in the romance department, then this trope should do the trick: It's not you, It's my enemies. Kishi could've easily tried having Naruto distance himself from Sakura for this reason. The biggest problem with romance in this manga is that Kishi's trying too hard at something he doesn't even know how to. If you don't know how to write something, but want to write it anyways, then keep it simple. Don't force yourself

Yeah, he should have thought out a better plan when involving romance. He could of made romance less complicated then how it is now with the "back and forth" moments between all of them. Personally I think he did a great job of developing Naruto and Sakura's relationship, especially in the beggining of part two. But like everyone else, it's hard to tell where he is trying to go from now on.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, he should have thought out a better plan when involving romance. He could of made romance less complicated then how it is now with the "back and forth" moments between all of them. Personally I think he did a great job of developing Naruto and Sakura's relationship, especially in the beggining of part two. But like everyone else, it's hard to tell where he is trying to go from now on.

Yeah, the thing is that Kishi is trying to stay complicated, because his story is becoming straightforward, which is not a bad thing, but since it's near the end, he is trying make things "interesting". Eventually, he will be complete straightforward like after Tobi dropped hints of being Obito especially after Madara was revived through Edo. Nevertheless, when it comes to relationship, NS is definitely great and nicely done. Now, let's just hope the whole romance drama just get done quickly and becoming clearer and straightforward.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Trying to change Sasuke is hard enough.... I just think there were better ways to handle the romance.

If Kishi wanted to put an obstacle in the romance department, then this trope should do the trick: It's not you, It's my enemies. Kishi could've easily tried having Naruto distance himself from Sakura for this reason. The biggest problem with romance in this manga is that Kishi's trying too hard at something he doesn't even know how to. If you don't know how to write something, but want to write it anyways, then keep it simple. Don't force yourself

I just made this in paint.

Kishi Is not bad with romaces. He was being modest. The way the romance in Naruto is built is that every main character (Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke) has a side character who loves them. Naruto has Hinata, Sakura has Lee and Sasuke has Karin, Ino and every other girl in class. But mainly Karin. Every one of these "side lovers" has done something important for the main character. Lee saved sakura`s life, Karin was Sasuke`s medic, and Hinata... well she tried to save his life. The whole romance system is very delicate. And in my opinion it works great the way it is.

If you feel you can do a better job at writting NS go ahead. But the Its my Enemies routine sucks. It always has sucked. Naruto has far to much trust in Sakura and her abilities to just brush her off becasue it may be dangerous. They are freaking ninjas.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I just made this in paint.

Kishi Is not bad with romaces. He was being modest. The way the romance in Naruto is built is that every main character (Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke) has a side character who loves them. Naruto has Hinata, Sakura has Lee and Sasuke has Karin, Ino and every other girl in class. But mainly Karin. Every one of these "side lovers" has done something important for the main character. Lee saved sakura`s life, Karin was Sasuke`s medic, and Hinata... well she tried to save his life. The whole romance system is very delicate. And in my opinion it works great the way it is.

If you feel you can do a better job at writting NS go ahead. But the Its my Enemies routine sucks. It always has sucked. Naruto has far to much trust in Sakura and her abilities to just brush her off becasue it may be dangerous. They are freaking ninjas.

Well, I suppose so. I think the problem could come from ambiguous development, like if the development meant for romance or just friendship. Case in point, 615. I think it's quickly assumed that 615 is a possible romance because it's the girl who loves him. If it's another girl, aside Sakura, then it's auto-friendship development. That's the problem. I'm not saying we are wrong just yet, I'm saying don't quickly draw the conclusion without looking in-depth.

To summarize, if it's clear on his intention such as knowing the ending, then I think we can finally draw conclusion whether the romance is good or not.

[Codus N]

Yeah, the thing is that Kishi is trying to stay complicated, because his story is becoming straightforward, which is not a bad thing, but since it's near the end, he is trying make things "interesting". Eventually, he will be complete straightforward like after Tobi dropped hints of being Obito especially after Madara was revived through Edo. Nevertheless, when it comes to relationship, NS is definitely great and nicely done. Now, let's just hope the whole romance drama just get done quickly and becoming clearer and straightforward.

I think that during Part I, he decided to draw up a love quadrangle or something like that to make things "interesting". To be honest, I saw the romance aspect as nothing more than a joke in the manga back then, (even then, the one I considered to be pretty serious was NH). Come early part II, things have gotten more serious. It was actually the perfect opportunity to send the non-canon pairings to the back burner. There was no need for 615 or 540 to happen. What Kishi did was simply forced.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think that during Part I, he decided to draw up a love quadrangle or something like that to make things "interesting". To be honest, I saw the romance aspect as nothing more than a joke in the manga back then, (even then, the one I considered to be pretty serious was NH). Come early part II, things have gotten more serious. It was actually the perfect opportunity to send the non-canon pairings to the back burner. There was no need for 615 or 540 to happen. What Kishi did was simply forced.

I understand. Well if it is really love aspects from all fronts, then yeah, it's just forced. Not to say anything changes, but it's being put out more. If not, well perhaps I should recap the manga in the near future. It's possible that many of us took it the wrong way. Whether it's because Kishi being ambiguous at certain moments or not, it's best to recap.