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#7601 God of All Shinobi

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:54 PM

hey I have a question regarding the debate of NS here.

http://manga.animea....83-page-13.html

read the next 2 or 3 pages. Does this mean Sakura knows Naruto was the one that complimented her.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:25 PM

it's possible, but I think she's just feeling guilty for what she said

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:29 PM

i think she released that the "sasuke" in that scene was naruto because of the annoying thing she said the same thing to him

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:27 PM

I goys I was reading some Naruto Revelation created in 2009 where 75% of the things they say already happen, but they also say that Naruto and Sakura can only be friends because they may be relative not brothers but relatives the prediction they make are 75% right so far they also say that Sasuke will die.

What you guys think this may be bias or what.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jan 2 2012, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I goys I was reading some Naruto Revelation created in 2009 where 75% of the things they say already happen, but they also say that Naruto and Sakura can only be friends because they may be relative not brothers but relatives the prediction they make are 75% right so far they also say that Sasuke will die.

What you guys think this may be bias or what.


Hmmm, interesting, well if they are right, 75% of the time, and they said Sasuke will die, what does that mean then? That Naruhina happens, and Sakura ends up alone? Rubbish.

But to answer your question, they might be bias for Naruhina, but its all right, they can support whoever the hell they want to predict, but often times, predictions don't really mean that they actually happen. That they may expect one thing, but the other thing happens, that's just how it is sometimes. However, thanks to the concept of the double-standard, we, as NaruSaku fans, might expect the same situation as well, but, hey, at least we have more fluid evidence to justify our predictions.

Edited by Anguyen92, 02 January 2012 - 07:47 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:46 PM

i think they are thinking too much...

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

I thought about it but I think it is still unresolved. She has never really mentioned it or anything. Plus it was about her saying he is annoying.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:50 PM

@God of All shinobi she realized that she said the same thing to naruto when he says "i feel the same way as you does it hurts..." she hurts naruto when she says that he was annoying , she felt the same when sasuke told that she was annoying

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I goys I was reading some Naruto Revelation created in 2009 where 75% of the things they say already happen, but they also say that Naruto and Sakura can only be friends because they may be relative not brothers but relatives the prediction they make are 75% right so far they also say that Sasuke will die.

What you guys think this may be bias or what.


They think they are blood related? If that is what they are saying, I think this might be among the 25% and that they are delusional. I also have to wonder about that 75% figure if they are making a claim like that.

There are so many problems with that theory. The only way it's even concievable is if they are cousins (or half-siblings) or somebody is wrong about their age (either that or Naruto was premature by about three months..which the manga has already nixed). It makes no sense.

Are you sure they are not simply saying they have a brother/sister type bond (but not blood related)?

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Oh boy, why do so many people think Naruto are close in a brother/sister or relatives kind of way?


I don't know many people who claim the relatives thing, especially when it has so many very obvious problems with it. As far as whether they have that type of bon...it's a lazy argument of convenience that can be used to explain away all development. So you can have a NS moment and say no worries, it's brother/sister.

I have yet to here an adequete explanation as to how you can tell the difference without actually asking the people involved. What kind of actions, aside from making out and sex, distinctly fall into one or the other? No idea.

Naruto clearly doesn't see it that way.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:05 PM

Pft. Yes because blood relatives blush at one another constantly, hug each other romantically, make flirtation gestures, and have romantic moments together. rolleyes.gif

/sarcasm.
 
 
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jan 2 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh boy, why do so many people think Naruto are close in a brother/sister or relatives kind of way?


What I find is stupid is Sakura has flirted with Naruto, How many people here flirt with their siblings. None I think.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (God of All Shinobi @ Jan 2 2012, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I find is stupid is Sakura has flirted with Naruto, How many people here flirt with their siblings. None I think.


Why would people flirt with their siblings? Are people that sick enough to do something like that? I agree with everyone else, though, that both Naruto and Sakura's flirting throughout the series is not sibling-like love.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:13 PM

do u guys still believe that sakura is related to naruto?
wtf

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 2 2012, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u guys still believe that sakura is related to naruto?
wtf


Obviously, we don't believe that but there are people that thinks like that and we're trying to figure out their reasoning for it other than the standard "they just don't want NaruSaku to happen, so they decided to poke holes around the boundaries to find something to build their case, when its all ready not strong enough in the first place."

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:16 PM

Oh boy,I want to see Naruto kiss Sakura or something and then they say: Ahh..It's a brother and sister kiss thing..Yeah..I saw alot of brothers kissing thier sister but it's nothing romantic...so don't worry! biggrin.gif

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jan 2 2012, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nate, I think the biggest difference(aside from what you mentioned) is in the attraction. Bothers and sisters care about each other, but never in a sexual kind of way. So I guess that argument goes down the drain since there is obvious attraction on Naruto's part(and Sakura's in part 2)



QUOTE (God of All Shinobi @ Jan 2 2012, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I find is stupid is Sakura has flirted with Naruto, How many people here flirt with their siblings. None I think.



QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Jan 2 2012, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would people flirt with their siblings? Are people that sick enough to do something like that? I agree with everyone else, though, that both Naruto and Sakura's flirting throughout the series is not sibling-like love.


Oi. You're all right. That's a very weak argument.
Sakura isn't related to Naruto, that's like saying Akamaru is related to Shino or Tsunade.

I'm not even going to argue the facts of why Sakura and Naruto aren't related by blood, or have a brother/sister bond, because honestly the argument is just stupid. They've had sexual and romantic attractions.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Jan 2 2012, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, interesting, well if they are right, 75% of the time, and they said Sasuke will die, what does that mean then? That Naruhina happens, and Sakura ends up alone? Rubbish.

But to answer your question, they might be bias for Naruhina, but its all right, they can support whoever the hell they want to predict, but often times, predictions don't really mean that they actually happen. That they may expect one thing, but the other thing happens, that's just how it is sometimes. However, thanks to the concept of the double-standard, we, as NaruSaku fans, might expect the same situation as well, but, hey, at least we have more fluid evidence to justify our predictions.



I know it sound bias but is not the 1st time I see it when ever Tobi Obito fairy become true I will really start to worry The video is in spanish thats way I did not posted here but I read the same revelation when I was reading the Dec. of 2009 Interview.
Beside they say something like maybe yes maybe no she may relative with Naruto not brothers they will always be close and always be friends.



Trust me I think is bias but there was too many think they say that already happen.



I don't know what to think about that video my focus is very low at work today.

Edited by donjoseph19, 02 January 2012 - 09:46 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jan 2 2012, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nate, I think the biggest difference(aside from what you mentioned) is in the attraction. Bothers and sisters care about each other, but never in a sexual kind of way. So I guess that argument goes down the drain since there is obvious attraction on Naruto's part(and Sakura's in part 2)


I agree and that's my problem with the argument. I haven't see anything convincing that they can point to that clearly puts it in the camp of brother/sister. It's either just stated or is a form of the argument that she loves (in the romantic sense)Sasuke exclusively (and/or Naruto loves Hinata).

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do u guys still believe that sakura is related to naruto?
wtf



Hell, no.

1. Sakura's birthday is March and Naruto's is October. They have generally been listed as the same age (and despite failing three times Naruto apprently shares the same age as those he graduates with, no idea how that works). This is important because (A) they are clearly not twins and (B) they were born within 1 year of each other.

2. Given that Kushina died when Naruto was born, Sakura would have to be older. If they were full siblings then Naruto must have been premature, at a minimum of about 2 months, which there is no evidence of (and I think a fairly significant fact given what they did with Kyuubi). In addition, there is the question about why Kushina, Minato, and just about everyone who knew them decided not to disclose this fact...at really, any point in time, including Kushina's flashback.

3. Kushina asks Mikoto if labor really hurts. A question that makes no sense if Sakura is Kushina's child.

Therefore, it only works if they are cousins or if they are half-siblings with Minato as the common parent, which would really put a damper on the kind of image Kishimoto has tried to give him (because it suggests he was cheating on her). The cousins argument is "possible (Naruto does not know squat about his extended family or even if he has any), but it would be a really sorry resolution to the whole triangle.

There just can't be anyway that the site believes that kind of prediction.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Jan 2 2012, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree and that's my problem with the argument. I haven't see anything convincing that they can point to that clearly puts it in the camp of brother/sister. It's either just stated or is a form of the argument that she loves (in the romantic sense)Sasuke exclusively (and/or Naruto loves Hinata).

I sometimes even hear that Hinata henges as Sakura in the major NS moments we have, as an argument. Lol.
 
 
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:57 PM

I been reading some replay not all yet but keep in mind what I'm stating here is about revelation they can be true or false, whe don't know anythung about Sakura's past yet Sakura doesn't know about Naruto's past and Naruto don't know about Sakura's past. It do not have to be about NaruHina.

I think that statement is false because Kishi will not make the Sakura confession if he know that after he will show the reader that there are relative, the only reason why I think about it is becuase they mention things that did not happen when the prediction was created.

Edited by donjoseph19, 02 January 2012 - 09:59 PM.





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