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[Pix]

Oh, and I forgot to say: I also saw a grown man running like Naruto.

That was a gift sent from the heavens.

 

 

 

Nice!

Aaand, so, I wanted to ask you a question, you read Sun-ken-rock, right? Did you read 3 spin-offs of it? Two are based before and at the same time, and one even based after end of Sun Ken Rock story!

 

YES! Well, the Yumin story was really boring but I read it cause the food looked good, and I'm also reading Wallman right now. The other Yumin/Pickaxe story was good too, but the fanservice was amped up to 11.

 

If part 3 comes on my birthday then Kishi hates me.

Like you didn't already know that?

[Nar123]

 

 

Alright, guess it's my bad. Tsunade indeed sent him of, technicaly, but all of us saw that it was Jiraiya's suggestion, and he only came to Tsunade to confirm it.

And I didn't wrote that as blaming her, that was suicide mission for anyone, who would try it, guess I just didn't wrote that good enough.

 

 

No problem, guess this was just a general misunderstatement then 

[Khaleesi]

 

 

I do indeed! I played Persona 2 ( Innocent sin), 3 and 4

 The Persona 5 game had its trailer finally announced and it promises to be so awesome    , I just can't handle the hype 

Who is your fav character? 

 

That was a gift sent from the heavens.

It was amazing. But I still can't belive it.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

1. and 2. So if a character dies they're not happy? Then every single character-except for Hidan-aren't happy because they will all die.

Tell me. What is your biggest reason for declaring a character isn't happy?
Is it because they died? Or is it because they said so? Or is it your subjective opinion?

Unless I understand the reason of your claim this debate will be meaningless.

3. If a movie contradicts the manga then it's natural to take the manga facts > movie.
Going by the manga facts, nobody got what they really wanted in the end.

And I'm not trying to prove anything, I already stated that.

1. and 2. - can we say that thay got "happy ending" by the way they died? Both were killed. 

We could say that they had their "happy ending" by the meaning of their death. One saved Naruto, other died with belive in a future of Naruto.

3. Kishimoto really did a good job, he even draw 2 pages from the Last (that 699.5 thing), so... yeah, that's not clarifying anything for us. But you wrong, Hinata got all she wanted 

 

YES! Well, the Yumin story was really boring but I read it cause the food looked good, and I'm also reading Wallman right now. The other Yumin/Pickaxe story was good too, but the fanservice was amped up to 11.

I just read it up to ch.8 is there any plot details that could say what happend to Ken or Yumi? Because I only got that they destroyed clan of White Dragon, right?

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 02 March 2015 - 12:04 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Your LAP has been pretty awesome/

 

 

Indeed NS4L

Your LAPS just have been getting better and better, this pairing one was awesome and exactly on point

 

Thank you. :)

[RedFaction]

I see. Well, here's my LAP for anyone who's interested.

http://sparda3g.tumb...pter-3-pairings

Next one is coming tonight.

I read it and wow you've laid out all the problems this ending has created perfectly. I don't think you could have explained it any better, and I know I couldn't have done the same myself. But I will say it really shows how badly this ending sucked when it's possible to write this many LAPs about it.

[Pix]

 

 

What's the argument is "what he wanted"? 

Sakura wanted Sasuke, so she got him.

Ino wanted Sai or Sasuke, she got Sai.

Double standards.

Ah... what's my point. Talking about "sexism" in Kishimoto's writing, and mentioning only girls feelings and their issues, doesn't do much good. If their feelings, became major or even whole object of their characters, on other hand - not even single men in a service got justice in this part of their character at all. That's all. Not trying to justify Obito's doings or blaming Tsunade. 

 

I see what you're saying. Jiraya and Naruto didn't get the girls that they wanted, but the girls got what they wanted.   

 

But I also think this has something to do with horrible story writing. Because apparently, to Kishimoto, love is all that really matters in a girl. So why not give them what they want and make them happy? Even if it doesn't make sense. 

 

Now that I think about it, there weren't many "guy crushes" either. We only know of Shikamaru and Naruto? Wouldn't it have been interesting if Kiba had a crush on Hinata, or Shino had a crush on Tenten? Idk, just throwing things out there. 

 

I also wish there were more gay couples. :( Regardless of what people believe, everybody deserves representation. 

[ramenanmitsu]

And I'm not trying to prove anything, I already stated that.
1. and 2. - can we say that thay got "happy ending" by the way they died? Both were killed. 
We could say that they had their "happy ending" by the meaning of their death. One saved Naruto, other died with belive in a future of Naruto.

Okay.

3. Kishimoto really did a good job, he even draw 2 pages from the Last, so... yeah, that's not clarifying anything for us. But you wrong, Hinata got all she wanted 

My bad. Princess Hinata is too insignificant I forget her all the time.

Maybe Kishi isn't a sexist. He's just Hinatarian. No wonder the guy's feelings got ignored and the girl's are made to erase their accomplishments so they don't outshine her. Hyuuga Naruto had to go through all 70 volumes of adventure and fighting so he would be a decent enough man for his future waifu. But since Naruto flirted with a girl that isn't his future waifu he had to receive punishment of losing an arm for his infidelity. The other woman-aka home wrecker-had to marry an international criminal for she dare kissed Hinata's man. It all makes sense now.

[Nar123]

Who is your fav character? 

 

It was amazing. But I still can't belive it.

 

So many of them ! hahaha hold on a moment let me go fangirl fanboy over here

 

Off topic

 

Persona 2 

 

 

Maya:  man  I just like her personality so much, and the mystery behind her character is so awesome, the ending destroyed me. I'm looking forward to play P2: Eternal Punishment ( she is the main MC there) in the future

 

Special mention to the joker, what a badass mofo he was...

 

P3

 

 

Aigis: Who doesn't love Aigis, seriously ?. I also loved her S-link in P3:FES and how she became more and more human  , I also quite liked to play with her in battles, I made a party that suited her strong physical attacks and that was it for the shadows who dared to oppose me

 

I also liked the male and female MC too, their story by far is the most tragic one.

 

P4

 

P4 is really an exception because I liked most of the characters there, they were all so funny and entertaining, I can't really separate them but if I had to choose I guess I'd  pick Kanji, Nanako, Naoto and Chie  . Agh see? I can't pick just one  

 

But if I have to pick one I quite disliked I'd have to say Teddie, I found him to be annoying at certain times

 

Edited by Nar123, 02 March 2015 - 12:18 AM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Maybe Kishi isn't a sexist. He's just Hinatarian. No wonder the guy's feelings got ignored and the girl's are made to erase their accomplishments so they don't outshine her. Hyuuga Naruto had to go through all 70 volumes of adventure and fighting so he would be a decent enough man for his future waifu. But since Naruto flirted with a girl that isn't his future waifu he had to receive punishment of losing an arm for his infidelity. The other woman-aka home wrecker-had to marry an international criminal for she dare kissed Hinata's man. It all makes sense now.

Wow... you just pointed it out, practicaly... whole story was about Naruto developing enough to be suited for Hinata-hime 

I see what you're saying. Jiraya and Naruto didn't get the girls that they wanted, but the girls got what they wanted.   
 
But I also think this has something to do with horrible story writing. Because apparently, to Kishimoto, love is all that really matters in a girl. So why not give them what they want and make them happy? Even if it doesn't make sense. 
 
Now that I think about it, there weren't many "guy crushes" either. We only know of Shikamaru and Naruto? Wouldn't it have been interesting if Kiba had a crush on Hinata, or Shino had a crush on Tenten? Idk, just throwing things out there. 
 
I also wish there were more gay couples. :( Regardless of what people believe, everybody deserves representation.

Kishimoto's work could now become a book for kids to teach about "missed opportunities".

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 02 March 2015 - 12:15 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Like you didn't already know that?

Why does Kishi hate me? Is it because I wrote the ending better than him? 

Edited by NaruSaku fan in Kentucky, 02 March 2015 - 12:16 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I read it and wow you've laid out all the problems this ending has created perfectly. I don't think you could have explained it any better, and I know I couldn't have done the same myself. But I will say it really shows how badly this ending sucked when it's possible to write this many LAPs about it.

I forgot to include the "red herring" though I do believe I already mentioned in the old LAPs.

[ramenanmitsu]

Wow... you just pointed it out, practicaly... whole story was about Naruto developing enough to be suited for Hinata-hime 

Hyuuga Naruto's life revolves around Hinata now. His character value is determined by how good of a husband material he is to his waifu.

[luffyq1]

And you said it how many time? Oh yes, one time after I pointed that you ignored it every time when mention sexism 

 

Alright, guess it's my bad. Tsunade indeed sent him of, technicaly, but all of us saw that it was Jiraiya's suggestion, and he only came to Tsunade to confirm it.

And I didn't wrote that as blaming her, that was suicide mission for anyone, who would try it, guess I just didn't wrote that good enough.

so now you have a problem with how many times i point out sexism towards men? will saying men's feelings are ignored three times make you feel better? 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Hyuuga Naruto's life revolves around Hinata now. His character value is determined by how good of a husband material he is to his waifu.

He actually failed, by ch.700 

so now you have a problem with how many times i point out sexism towards men? will saying men's feelings are ignored three times make you feel better?

lol
Just you writing every 2nd message about sexism and picturing girls by Kishimoto, and ignoring mentioning other half by yourself, makes you hypocrisy a little. But other than that, do what you wanted to do =)

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 02 March 2015 - 12:22 AM.

[Pix]

Okay.
My bad. Princess Hinata is too insignificant I forget her all the time.

Maybe Kishi isn't a sexist. He's just Hinatarian. No wonder the guy's feelings got ignored and the girl's are made to erase their accomplishments so they don't outshine her. Hyuuga Naruto had to go through all 70 volumes of adventure and fighting so he would be a decent enough man for his future waifu. But since Naruto flirted with a girl that isn't his future waifu he had to receive punishment of losing an arm for his infidelity. The other woman-aka home wrecker-had to marry an international criminal for she dare kissed Hinata's man. It all makes sense now.

Or maybe he became a Hinatarian. Cause if he really liked that bish then he would have made her the center of attention a long time ago. 

 

But then again half of the story was about Sasuke and he literally said that Sasuke was the type of person he hated the most. 

 

Ugh Kishimoto is a living and breathing contradiction. I seriously don't understand him.

Why does Kishi hate me? 

Cause he's jealous of you. You flawless. 

[RyohkiFan]

Heyyy, how is everyone? What's happening?

[Nar123]

I see what you're saying. Jiraya and Naruto didn't get the girls that they wanted, but the girls got what they wanted.   

 

But I also think this has something to do with horrible story writing. Because apparently, to Kishimoto, love is all that really matters in a girl. So why not give them what they want and make them happy? Even if it doesn't make sense. 

 

Now that I think about it, there weren't many "guy crushes" either. We only know of Shikamaru and Naruto? Wouldn't it have been interesting if Kiba had a crush on Hinata, or Shino had a crush on Tenten? Idk, just throwing things out there. 

 

I also wish there were more gay couples. :( Regardless of what people believe, everybody deserves representation. 

 

Gay couples in shonen is totally unusual, well Ymir x Christa from SnK is almost there but that would be a first

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Cause he's jealous of you. You flawless. 

Aww.... Thank you. 

[Khaleesi]

 

Gay couples in shonen is totally unusual, well Ymir x Christa from SnK is almost there but that would be a first

It is unusual, and that's why it would be refreshing. But some people believe HakuxZabuza is canon, wth.

Edited by theunburnt, 02 March 2015 - 12:25 AM.