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[tonga1]

So when did Kakashi notice Sakura was no longer in love with the sauce, I'd say probably the land of iron arc.

Personally I think she got over him when part 2 began. I think chapter 540 is still debatable

if that is true, the fodder ninja with the love letter..

what means?

[FireFox]

I still can't believe that SS went to butcher the English literature just so it can fit their needs 

Her love matured from crush to love for him but she's a sweet girl that wants to save him because its her duty not because she loves him ? I really don't know how can this make sense to them or anybody for that matter this is just so freaking sad    .

[Qia]

I'm starting to think that too. It's weird anime got it right. It's not that it's now an incredible source, but it begs the question: when did this happen? Say all you want about anime and such, but that's something you shouldn't really just mess with. Yes, over glory Hinata stuff, but it doesn't change the character's outlook with each other. That said did we miss the boat and that boat finally came back to tell us, "Where the hell have you been?"

*coughs* Here perhaps?Of course combined with how different she is in part 2 (so everything that's happened so far). Just a guess. 

Edited by Qia, 09 May 2014 - 11:31 PM.

[Strangelove]

So when did Kakashi notice Sakura was no longer in love with the sauce, I'd say probably the land of iron arc.

Personally I think she got over him when part 2 began. I think chapter 540 is still debatable

 

Uhmm...I think she got over him right around when Sai showed up...here is a guy who looks and acts close to Sasuke, but is not Sasuke...and she didn't develop any sort of feelings for him, that and Naruto seem to always try to defend Sasuke for Sakura's sake, and she got wind of this...of course so did Sai.

[AzureWaters]

What you guys think of this?

 

 

that would make it very SS IMO.

 

i cant wait for the raw really.

 

If that's the real raw then it will boost SasuSaku, or at least reaffirm Sakura's feelings for Sasuke (which is dangerous), instead of killing it like we orignially thought. Can't say I'd be too surprised-- Kishi likes his pairing drama afterall.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

If that's the real raw then it will boost SasuSaku, or at least reaffirm Sakura's feelings for Sasuke (which is dangerous), instead of killing it like we orignially thought. Can't say I'd be too surprised-- Kishi likes his pairing drama afterall.

The real raw doesn't exist yet. It's...crazy that we have fake ones. Let's just wait for the real one to be released. So far we have 3 sources, but none are from original source.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He saved her indirectly by her watching him and drawing strength from him she changed by watching him and barely interacting with him , and no its not the same with Kushina and Minato  Minato saved Kushina directly by complementing her the part she hated the most about herself and  by being there for her further more Kushina didn't aspire to be like Minato .  its not the same . Perhaps false love isn't the correct word for Hinata's love but as you say admiration love but still my point was that its not "true love" admiration love and  true love are two different things .

The same can be said for NS and all the other pairings, they arent meant to be a carbon copy but NH and MK, has similiraties and NS and MK too.
My point is every relationship has a theme, NS is mostly resolved aroudn their comradeship who turns into love, NH is admiration and how it changed her life, MK is the classic hero saves the girl, Obito/Rin comes around about sacrifice, Jiraiya and Tsunade has that childhood love who never gotten over, Sasu/Saku based on coolness and etc... the fact is all of them were portraited as a some for of genuine love, but despite the only one SS not having strong foundations to begin with but it's portraited as love anyway.

This whole true love, it's bs to me in all respect, true love would mean no flaws and all the pairings have flaws they are not perfect.

[Inferno180]

The same can be said for NS and all the other pairings, they arent meant to be a carbon copy but NH and MK, has similiraties and NS and MK too.
My point is every relationship has a theme, NS is mostly resolved aroudn their comradeship who turns into love, NH is admiration and how it changed her life, MK is the classic hero saves the girl, Obito/Rin comes around about sacrifice, Jiraiya and Tsunade has that childhood love who never gotten over, Sasu/Saku based on coolness and etc... the fact is all of them were portraited as a some for of genuine love, but despite the only one SS not having strong foundations to begin with but it's portraited as love anyway.

This whole true love, it's bs to me in all respect, true love would mean no flaws and all the pairings have flaws they are not perfect.

 

Though the difference is, NS has been given a lot of screentime development, and progression. It has merits and reason to go forward, NH much less, SS hardly any.

 

 

If that's the real raw then it will boost SasuSaku, or at least reaffirm Sakura's feelings for Sasuke (which is dangerous), instead of killing it like we orignially thought. Can't say I'd be too surprised-- Kishi likes his pairing drama afterall.

 

This wouldnt change the fact that theres still a lot of problems storywise for SS like how can it merit itself or otherwise still make sense in the short time remaining for the manga and also if it was just reaffirming sakuras love for sasuke, wouldnt this defeat the purpose of changed feelings? Something reaffirmed that was previously known to be the same wouldnt be a change now would it?

[Hiraishin]

Since when does true love mean no flaws? Of course the pairings have flaws, if they were perfect it'd be boring and unrealistic.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Though the difference is, NS has been given a lot of screentime development, and progression. It has merits and reason to go forward, NH much less, SS hardly any.

Yep, however it doesnt relate to my point, in the flaws notion inst about ending in a negative tone but rather the own problems in the relationship, Minato pursued Kushina, Jiraiya was rejected many times, Obito's confession didnt worked.
But what about Naruto?

Joke, Joke, Joke, Sasuke, Joke, Sasuke and Joke/Sasuke.
 

Since when does true love mean no flaws? Of course the pairings have flaws, if they were perfect it'd be boring and unrealistic.

Then why people only brings up that NS is true love, and forget about Obito/Rin and hiswill to see her happy(inst somewhat similar to NS) what about Hinata's love for Naruto(her admiration and even people criticizing the fact she only thinks about Naruto which is valid to me and is negative on my view, she indeed was willing to sacrifice her life to Naruto not once but twice), inst true love aswell?
Minato and Kushina and etc...

I only take out any pairings that start with Sasuke from the list.

Either it has no flaws or accept that there's many true loves on the manga, this whole false love doesnt make sense to me.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 May 2014 - 12:33 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This feels like Phoenix Wright. One answer does actually answer all, but they want to stretch it, so you got to keep proving that he/she is the criminal until all are freshed out. They're the "villains", and we have to keep doing objections. Seriously, if it NS edition, this kitten wouldn't happen. This is just pathetic. No, I have no more sympathy. Screw that. You killed it.

[luffyq1]

Since when does true love mean no flaws? Of course the pairings have flaws, if they were perfect it'd be boring and unrealistic.

That's why I think NH is boring because there's no conflict in the pair.  And no, I don't want the kind of conflict that SS & SK have. Verbal arguments would do just fine with me.

[Gojira]

if that is true, the fodder ninja with the love letter..
what means?

If we go by MP's translation it can be argued that the one she was originally referring to wasn't Sasuke but once he said the line "if its somebody you love then there bound to be a great person" it made her sad because it reminded her of how not a great person Sasuke is now (standing in flames in kitten is hardly being put in a romantic light) now if you'll excuse me i'll be hiding in the bomb shelter to shield myself from Grave's rage that I brought up 540 again

To be fair in SS defense Kakashi was hardly straightforward with his dialogue (throwing words around like "feelings" and "still like him but in the same way")

Edited by Pepsi, 10 May 2014 - 12:45 AM.

[FireFox]

The same can be said for NS and all the other pairings, they arent meant to be a carbon copy but NH and MK, has similiraties and NS and MK too.
My point is every relationship has a theme, NS is mostly resolved aroudn their comradeship who turns into love, NH is admiration and how it changed her life, MK is the classic hero saves the girl, Obito/Rin comes around about sacrifice, Jiraiya and Tsunade has that childhood love who never gotten over, Sasu/Saku based on coolness and etc... the fact is all of them were portraited as a some for of genuine love, but despite the only one SS not having strong foundations to begin with but it's portraited as love anyway.

This whole true love, it's bs to me in all respect, true love would mean no flaws and all the pairings have flaws they are not perfect.

By your logic then even NaruGaara is similar to MK and almost everybody that Naruto has changed indirectly and directly , what makes someone relationship similar is by the way they interact with each other an do for one another  . If you are trying to say that every relationship is love  i agree but i was arguing from the aspect of the nature of that love that NH it's not a romantic one or represents one "true love"  if you want me to be precise and i will say it again admiration love doesn't equal romantic love or true love . And i don't know how did you came to the conclusion that true love means no flaws  you thinking its bull that's another thing .  

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 May 2014 - 12:55 AM.

[luffyq1]

If we go by MP's translation it can be argued that the one she was originally referring to wasn't Sasuke but once he said the line "if its somebody you love then there bound to be a great person" it made her sad because it reminded her of how not a great person Sasuke is now (standing in flames in kitten is hardly being put in a romantic light) now if you'll excuse me i'll be hiding in the bomb shelter to shield myself from Grave's rage that I brought up 540 again

That's why I love the pairing wars because you have NH who wants to take that scene at face value so that it may favor them, and then you have NS who looks underneath the underneath so that it may favor them. It's a never ending cycle of who's right and who's wrong. 

Edited by luffyq1, 10 May 2014 - 12:57 AM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Well everyone its true many SS fans think that this was pro for their pairing and that Sakura still loves Sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I feel like they should accept it before it gets worse in the manga.

[rikakim94]

So, to sum everything up: the concept of "love" in the Narutoverse is generally an absolute mess.

 

I actually made a topic of how much of the love triangle is utter mess a what makes matter worse kishi never had any pairing in mind to began with.   

Edited by rikakim94, 10 May 2014 - 01:20 AM.

[rikakim94]

That's why I think NH is boring because there's no conflict in the pair.  And no, I don't want the kind of conflict that SS & SK have. Verbal arguments would do just fine with me.

 

Hinata needs to care about others not just naruto i can't imagine her dumping her clan just for naruto. And naruto dosen't seem all that interested in her he's nice and respectful towards her but it never goes to a romance route. I just don't find this pairing interesting as of now its just like what you said its kinda redundant and boring....

[FireFox]

If we go by MP's translation it can be argued that the one she was originally referring to wasn't Sasuke but once he said the line "if its somebody you love then there bound to be a great person" it made her sad because it reminded her of how not a great person Sasuke is now (standing in flames in kitten is hardly being put in a romantic light) now if you'll excuse me i'll be hiding in the bomb shelter to shield myself from Grave's rage that I brought up 540 again

To be fair in SS defense Kakashi was hardly straightforward with his dialogue (throwing words around like "feelings" and "still like him but in the same way")

LOL about the @Grave thing 

 

To be fair no matter how they twist it it still doesn't make any sense let me put it this way . What they are saying is that Kakashi is admiring the fact that even though he realizes that her love evolved/grown she still wants to save Sasuke . Now tell me does that makes any sense at all  ? To them that makes more sense then Kakashi admiring of Sakura's compassion the fact that she moved on but still cares enough to save him .

I feel like they should accept it before it gets worse in the manga.

You know they won't i'm not sure if they will ever realize it they are in the delulu land for a very long time now

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 May 2014 - 01:27 AM.