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#741 T XD

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 24 2013, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She's probably in the background healing some fodder ninja. After all, medical ninjas can't be fighting. It makes perfect sense.

I don't think she's going to just heal. She said that she's going to be with Naruto, like the others. I don't think by being together, she means just by being present in the battle field.

Like imagine that after a while, we got a panel of her healing !
It doesn't seem right. Kishi can't just throw this after making her absent for two chapters, and probably the upcoming 2 or 3 chapters.

Edited by T XD, 24 January 2013 - 07:30 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

Sure, it's obvious that Kishi hasn't forgotten about her. But that does not automatically mean that she's going to do something amazing. She's a medical heroine, I'm not expecting her to be out in the front lines like everybody else fighting. And I have every reason to not expect anything else from Sakura other than being a battery charger. Blame Kishi.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I know...that's why I have the wish. If it weren't be a thing known only by Tsunade, I wouldn't have wished it since I'd suspect Sakura knows it.
Really, this is soo annoying. She's the only one who doesn't have some hax jutsu.
Damn, Kishi...

What if Tsunade gives her that power up. With Sakura now, everything is possible.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

Its still so funny. When i read the chapter, i thought nice lee got some screentime as expected and sakura is obviously missing, seems like kishi is planing something. Result great chapter.
Then i come here and what do i see: "OMG hinata healed narutos shoulder, OMG sakura is missing" laugh.gif

Always so funny

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

Well, if there is one thing I have to gave Kishi, it's the fact that he can still surprise us.

Can you just picture someone commenting and saying that they think Hinata will slap naruto and "heal" him in upcoming chapters? back then, I would have thought that was just a complete fanfiction idea. but now here we are. dry.gif


Saying that tho, reminds me of something else...remember back when RTN seemed to NH and SS? and how we were all freaking out? laugh.gif At this moment, I can't help but get a feeling this is sort of a subtle repeat. ( kinda like the pain arc, but with more pairing drama... headscratch.gif )

Not sure if my comment is making sense... sweatdrop.gif What I mean is, I think Kishi is throwing a curve ball...It's LOOKS almost like he is going a Retcon. but I don't think he is. I think he plans on just making this as interesting as he can. after all, while you can say that was clear fanservice, and a good "NH" moment, at least from Hinata's side....still.. Naruto was thinking of Neji the whole time...I don't even think he had a romantic thought at all.

I just think that considering how much faith he gave people in the NS ship in Japan over that moive, will not go to waste. I believe that he has a plan. and in a way, it's really predictable. fu.png

Anyway, I just hope that this post brings back some hope to those of you who were worried. ( I even worried a bit, not for shipping reasons this time tho..) Like the rest of you, right now...I just don't want Sakura to be forgotten. and after his cover page, and I think I'm overeating. sweatdrop.gif


The main ship always has the MOST to overcome if he wants to do the pairing right. so....anyway I hope everyone feels better now! happy.gif

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 24 2013, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sure, it's obvious that Kishi hasn't forgotten about her. But that does not automatically mean that she's going to do something amazing. She's a medical heroine, I'm not expecting her to be out in the front lines like everybody else fighting. And I have every reason to not expect anything else from Sakura other than being a battery charger. Blame Kishi.

Probably, not quickly in the front lines but she can fight whenever she wants. That why Kishi can whenever he wants, surprise us with Sakura, especially now since he makes her absent.

Edited by T XD, 24 January 2013 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 24 2013, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its still so funny. When i read the chapter, i thought nice lee got some screentime as expected and sakura is obviously missing, seems like kishi is planing something. Result great chapter.
Then i come here and what do i see: "OMG hinata healed narutos shoulder, OMG sakura is missing" laugh.gif

Always so funny


me too... after I finished to read the chapter I thought simply "Interesting."... only that. Why? Because he didn't show Sakura here. He don't want to put here in a volume regarding Hyuuga's development. It's possible that Kishimoto want to put her in a arc only for her, a volume only for here with any meddlings from others? Possible imho.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 24 2013, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Probably, not quickly in the front lines but she can fight whenever she wants. That why Kishi can whenever he wants, surprise us with Sakura, especially now since he makes absent.


"Surprise"

That's the word that we have to use because that's what it's come to. It's that word that's truly embarrassing because Kishi has neglected this character so much that it has lead us Sakura fans to use the word "surprise".

Surprising, isn't it? That our expectations of our heroine has steadily plummeted. Is it possible to hand over the rights to Sakura's character? Preferably to Oda?

Edited by luffyq1, 24 January 2013 - 07:42 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

Really now, not to be kitteny or anything but... can we at least be a little more critical to Kishi? We are quite aware that he hasn't done so much things. Saying that "next time" he will, just to excuse his errors won't make it better, you know? He has done some huge mistakes regarding Sakura's character. And as much as I love Naruto, the manga, I can be quite objective with some things.
It's not whining about it, it's called criticism on the author for obvious reasons. And Sakura missing reaction wasn't because of this chapter, it was an overall thing.
As much as I hate the fact, he hasn't done such a good job with Sakura's character.

Edited by Chatte, 24 January 2013 - 07:44 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now, not to be kitteny or anything but... can we at least be a little more critical to Kishi? We are quite aware that he hasn't done so much things. Saying that "next time" he will, just to excuse his errors won't make it better, you know? He has done some huge mistakes regarding Sakura's character. And as much as I love Naruto, the manga, I can be quite objective with some things.
It's not whining about it, it's called criticism on the author for obvious reasons. And Sakura missing reaction wasn't because of this chapter, it was an overall thing.
As much as I hate the fact, he hasn't done such a good job with Sakura's character.

I'm critical, i think her medical skills should be a secondary ability, ofc she has a super strenght but would be better if she knew elemental jutsus and/or sealing jutsus, i wanted her healing skills to be a secondary ability not the main one to a point that makes her unable to fight on the front simply because she's a medic, about hinata she's only heroine around Naruto she's still the same fangirl and shy.

And i think kishimoto knows this to a point he said that it's easier to make hinata a heroine than Sakura, for Hinata you only need to put Naruto around her and she starts doing heroish stuff, with Sakura there's a lot of things that makes harder because she's not shallow.

Hinata never do things on her own everytime she appears is something regarded to Naruto, always, this war arc is an example of it, since she started showing it was about Naruto, Hinata is not the main heroine because of this reason, she's only about Naruto, on the entire part 2, and part 1 too.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now, not to be kitteny or anything but... can we at least be a little more critical to Kishi? We are quite aware that he hasn't done so much things. Saying that "next time" he will, just to excuse his errors won't make it better, you know? He has done some huge mistakes regarding Sakura's character. And as much as I love Naruto, the manga, I can be quite objective with some things.
It's not whining about it, it's called criticism on the author for obvious reasons. And Sakura missing reaction wasn't because of this chapter, it was an overall thing.
As much as I hate the fact, he hasn't done such a good job with Sakura's character.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 24 2013, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Surprise"

That's the word that we have to use because that's what it's come to. It's that word that's truly embarrassing because Kishi has neglected this character so much that it has lead us Sakura fans to use the word "surprise".

Surprising, isn't it? That our expectations of our heroine has steadily plummeted. Is it possible to hand over the rights to Sakura's character? Preferably to Oda?

By "surprise", I mean as for now, the fact that she's absent and she can pop up again in no time. We are using "surprise" for referring her reappearance again in the battle field.
But, yeah, the "surprise" word, sometimes, can be too by what you mean.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 24 2013, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm critical, i think her medical skills should be a secondary ability, ofc she has a super strenght but would be better if she knew elemental jutsus and/or sealing jutsus, i wanted her healing skills to be a secondary ability not the main one to a point that makes her unable to fight on the front simply because she's a medic, about hinata she's only heroine around Naruto she's still the same fangirl and shy.

And i think kishimoto knows this to a point he said that it's easier to make hinata a heroine than Sakura, for Hinata you only need to put Naruto around her and she starts doing heroish stuff, with Sakura there's a lot of things that makes harder because she's not shallow.

Hinata never do things on her own everytime she appears is something regarded to Naruto, always, this war arc is an example of it, since she started showing it was about Naruto, Hinata is not the main heroine because of this reason, she's only about Naruto, on the entire part 2, and part 1 too.


Exactly. I so much agree. Sakura, has no damn ability. As I like to say, flashy jutsus. And unfortunately, to have success on the audience, people need to be impressed visually. Yet, Sakura's got nothing of that.
And while Hinata is a centric character, she's there for the hero, has those visually appealing jutsu.
There are 2 points from the very start.
I know Hinata's flaws, don't worry, won't have to tell me this, but the majority doesn't see this. The majority sees her like the sweet-little angel.
We all need to look around and see the effects.
And we're seeing it. From a character that barely appeared in part 1, now she's got this huge fanbase just because of these shallow things.
But they work for the public.
Sakura failing to kill Sasuke and cry and make her think at him are 3 points zero for her character.
While I understand what he wants to emphasis with it, the majority doesn't.
People are simple minded.
And as I said, if we look around us, we see the results.

Like I said, either I like it or not, he screwed her.

If he'd kept her emotional like she is, but more fight-focused... as in Sasori arc, he wouldn't had made this image of her.

And I had seen these reactions all over the places I've been. And here I am not talking about the silly haters, I am talking about some real mature individuals with whom I came in contact that said that they would've loved to like more Sakura, but it's just not appealing as a heroine. All she does is cry cry and no action.
And if we balance things, it's kind of true. Wether we like it or not, I repeat myself.

It's all about how you publicize your characters.

take the most basic example: One Piece.

No arguings in the fandom, no pairing wars, the sales compared to Naruto are HUGE. And in One Piece's favor, not Naruto's.

Why? Because the author took proper care of the character development and especially, the heroes.

Kishi? Well... we can see the results.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 24 2013, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 24 2013, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By "surprise", I mean as for now, the fact that she's absent and she can pop up again in no time. We are using "surprise" for referring her reappearance again in the battle field.
But, yeah, the "surprise" word, sometimes, can be too by what you mean.


But why use "surprise" at all? She's the heroine of this series, there's simply no go reason for her to be absent like this.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:18 PM

What surprise? Really now? If I see her I'll be like "Thanks God, finally! Was about time!".
Surprise is when she's constant and then BAM! Something big happens.
But when she's treated like this... Sorry, that's no surprise.
At least for me.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

Im just wondering, if you already gave up and just insult kishi for bad writing, why are you writing it again and again in this thread? I think you already said it about 50 times laugh.gif

You guys are the worrier kinds right?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 24 2013, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im just wondering, if you already gave up and just insult kishi for bad writing, why are you writing it again and again in this thread? I think you already said it about 50 times laugh.gif

You guys are the worrier kinds right?


Excuse me, but how is that I am insulting Kishi? By saying that with Sakura, overall, he didn't do such a great thing when he, himself, realized it when he said "but she's become such a character", meaning, he finally understood that he didn't do a good job with her?

And how is a critic an insult? I fail to see it. As far as I know writers, movies, anything... got to be that famous because critics were there to point out wrongs. That's why the criticism exists! That's why people do reviews on different things.

Sorry if I am that reader that won't be satisfied like a dog getting thrown a bone. OR however the expression was.

Really now, agreeing with all that Kishi does, ass-kissing him (not saying you do, overall speaking), excuse my language, please... it's like, insulting my own intelligence.

I agree that on other aspects he has done a great job but with Sakura, he failed most of the times.

And I am talking from the heroine-stand point. Not from NS stand-point.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

If people like Ino and Lee are getting alot of screentime, I highly doubt Sakura isn't going to get a major role soon. Just be patient.

After all, she was the last one to have a monologue in 573. Kishi already got Hinata, Shikamaru, Ino, Neji, Chouji and Lee out of the way.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now, not to be kitteny or anything but... can we at least be a little more critical to Kishi? We are quite aware that he hasn't done so much things. Saying that "next time" he will, just to excuse his errors won't make it better, you know? He has done some huge mistakes regarding Sakura's character. And as much as I love Naruto, the manga, I can be quite objective with some things.
It's not whining about it, it's called criticism on the author for obvious reasons. And Sakura missing reaction wasn't because of this chapter, it was an overall thing.
As much as I hate the fact, he hasn't done such a good job with Sakura's character.


I agree that Kishi has really messed up on Sakura character, but we have to remember that he's guilty of doing this with the hero of the story as well. We all know that the manga Naruto is notorious for constantly leaving out the main character. It's not a surprise to me that he's yet again guilty of doing that to the story's heroin as well.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 25 2013, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But why use "surprise" at all? She's the heroine of this series, there's simply no go reason for her to be absent like this.

Every manga has its heroine, and they have to disappear sometimes. Now, I know that Sakura is somewhat not like the others in that thing. But, in the end, it's all the same thing in the meaning of the heroes stepping aside.

Kishi has somewhat overdone it in this with her in the past, and now we don't know if it's the same thing cause, seriously, if it ends with Sakura doing nothing in this fight, then I or we can say that it wasn't right from Kishi to do this.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 25 2013, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What surprise? Really now? If I see her I'll be like "Thanks God, finally! Was about time!".
Surprise is when she's constant and then BAM! Something big happens.
But when she's treated like this... Sorry, that's no surprise.
At least for me.

I guess you're right in the meaning of surprise in this. But what other word can we use XD

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