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[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@Kirabook:

Nicely put! All true .

[narusakufan122]

I know a lot of you all say that the bench scene will be brought up and will help Sakura figure out that she loves Naruto but I don't see how because if even if Naruto gives her the same compliment word for word I don't think it would work because right after saying that "Sasuke" said "That sounds like something Naruto would say", now I'm not saying that I don't think that a complament about Sakura forehead would help I'm just saying that I don't think the bench scene will have anything to do with it.

Don't get how people can still not acknowledge that the bench scene will have a big influence on the narusaku relation.
Before they showed the Minato/Kushina history i didn't think much of it too but isn't it a bit too coincidental?
Naruto commenting on the one thing Sakura hated the most about herself and us finding out that Minato commented on thinking Kushina's hair was beautifull(the thing she hated the most about herself) and she stating that @ that moment she knew she loved Minato?
I think this bench scene will be the thing that will put everything into place and will make sakura realise she loves Naruto.

[FoolishYoungling]

Don't get how people can still not acknowledge that the bench scene will have a big influence on the narusaku relation.
Before they showed the Minato/Kushina history i didn't think much of it too but isn't it a bit too coincidental?
Naruto commenting on the one thing Sakura hated the most about herself and us finding out that Minato commented on thinking Kushina's hair was beautifull(the thing she hated the most about herself) and she stating that @ that moment she knew she loved Minato?
I think this bench scene will be the thing that will put everything into place and will make sakura realise she loves Naruto.

I think it might just be meant to show you how she felt a little better. A good compare of interest she had for Sasuke and Naruto at the start of the show. Will it come up, probably not. Will NaruSaku happen because of parallels like this? Yes. Anyway, welcome fresh meat. Hope you enjoy your stay here with the family.

[Don-kun]

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--incoming wall of text rambling--

Since I see confession being thrown around a little, can you guys look back to when the confession took place please? First, their village was literally obliterated from an attack by Pein. Sasuke, the friend both Naruto and Sakura are trying to drag back to Konoha has officially been dubbed an enemy of the village and a missing nin when tension and sadness is already high. Then, Kumo nins come in and proclaim that Sasuke is now their enemy, is a part of the Akatsuki, and if they see him they'll kill him.

In Naruto's case, he got a huge beat down, and later on Sai told Sakura that Naruto is practically sacrificing himself to keep the promise he made her, because he whole heartedly believes she still loves Sasuke that way. And because Naruto loves her, he'll do anything to keep it, to make her happy and if she's happy, he's happy. Was she really happy all that time? No, not really, she practically had a break down on the spot. Understandably so, things just keep piling on and on. Even if she doesn't love Sasuke that way, she's still at least trying to hang onto the idea that he's their friend. Their friend who is now a missing-nin and a target of another village.

All that is building up to her confession. She'd do anything to hold Naruto back as we saw. Was her confession when talking about her love for Naruto true? I personally think so, but we can't say it is for sure. Was the part where she said she doesn't care about Sasuke true? No, she doesn't believe that, Naruto doesn't believe that, no one believes that.

I would need a more stable translation to be sure, but she's either saying "I don't care about Sasuke anymore" or "There's nothing between Sasuke and me anymore". I'm more inclined to take the first translation because there was never anything between her and Sasuke, it was just her having a one sided crush. Then she goes on to say she's not sure what she was thinking liking someone like him and yada yada. That part might be true, but I don't believe the "I don't care" stuff was. She cares, but at the same time she realizes that she probably shouldn't like or have liked someone like Sasuke, she probably felt like she wasn't exactly thinking. But can she just drop her emotions just like that? No.

Now then, remember when I ranted about the build up to the confession? Well, that's important. As I said, the build up pushed her into making this confession half heartedly. After all that just happened, why would she suddenly give Naruto a "proper" confession and act super chipper about not caring about Sasuke anymore? Even everyone around her knew that just wasn't natural. Why do the confession this way? To make it more interesting. Would we be sitting here in deep thought puzzling over a manga if everything had gone smoothly? No, we would be content, which would be boring eventually. We shouldn't be content until the end, Kishi wants us to read more, not get full and leave early.

With that said, I look back at my clean slate Sakura vs cracked and slanted slate Sakura example. Right now she's still on the cracked one, which causes more harm than it helps and does nothing but cause misunderstandings. She NEEDS to let go of Sasuke completely before her and Naruto can take their relationship any further.

"But why still love Sasuke?" We can't say for sure, only speculate. My speculation is, as every human does... we dwell on big events in our life. She's dwelling over her childhood crush. Naruto is constantly telling her not to give up, he'll bring back Sasuke someday and things will be normal. Don't forget about him, I'll keep my promise and bring him back to you. It reminds me of someone who feels they HAVE to like something because someone worked so hard on it, you don't want to disappoint the person is doing it for you.

That, and I don't think Sakura really realizes she's probably no longer in love with Sasuke and that she could actually love Naruto just as much, if not more than Sasuke. (Best case scenario, sorry guys, it's now rambling realize, pfft Still relevant, but kinda everywhere) I feel like by now, she's forcing herself to be in love with Sasuke. She realizes then he's not a great guy at all of course and she probably shouldn't be in love with him. Along with that, we haven't actually seen her POV at all, we saw a glimpse into who she was thinking about, but that's it. No internal monologue, no hint of talking it over with someone else, as usual, Sakura is kinda... secretive somehow when it comes to Sasuke. I feel as if she reveals more of what she's thinking when it involves Naruto, but not Sasuke, which is probably intentional.

But reading the chapter again, I honestly don't feel that it hurts NaruSaku, not as much as you seem to want it to. It was shown, as we pretty much already knew prior to this chapter, that Sakura still has lingering feelings for Sasuke. But take a step back and look at the bigger picture, does this mean that she doesn't love Naruto? No, and you can definitely love more than one person at once. Does this negate the development that Naruto and Sakura have had up to this point? No, the development is still there, can't erase the past afterall. Is Naruto no longer in the picture? Obviously not, the manga isn't resolved, Sasuke is still... well Sasuke, and Naruto is still striving to bring him back. -though obviously has more important things to deal with- 540 doesn't need to be "necessary", it's there to make things interesting.

Now then, moving away from my thoughts on 540 and moving onto everything else.

Sakura's resolve shouldn't take more than 5 chapters if it's brought up to her attention and she must do it then and there. I bring up the procrastination example again. You wait and wait and wait until the very last moment when you can't wait anymore and you just do it or don't. It is a situation like that where I think Sakura will finally figure out her feelings for sure. It will probably happen when something else involving Naruto and Sasuke is going on.

And I'll repeat again, Kishi wants to make this interesting. To see some people question the pairing you went with this far down the line makes me question your resolve and reading comprehension. And I don't mean that as an insult, but this is a series. We can't look at each chapter as if they are standalone. Each chapter is either building up on something, answering something we weren't sure about, bring up new questions, or reinforcing something we already knew. The confession showed that Sakura is emotionally confused in regards to Sasuke, 540 further reinforced that idea.

Her feelings for Sasuke are causing cracks in her not new slate, which overshadows any new feelings she could have for someone else. No one wants to be in a relationship with someone else when they feel they might have feelings left over for someone else.


And I don't know what world you live in, but there are plenty of people like Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke. They had a friend who took a bad path. They do everything they can do to help their friend, offer up their homes, money, car, anything, and that person does nothing but burn them in the end. Yet even after being betrayed over and over, they feel obligated to 'help' their friend that doesn't want to be helped until their friend 'kills' them one day for money they had already offered up willingly. Something very similar happened in my family a while ago, but the difference was their "friend" was actually their own son.

This is a shounen manga, so I doubt it will end so tragically, but Naruto is stubborn. How many people have tried to talk him out of helping Sasuke now? He can't be convinced, he's the shounen hero. No matter what Sasuke has done up until now, Naruto will still somehow forgive him because he 'understands'. That's just how shounen goes, it's cliche, but oh well.

Very nice post. sadly I feel like your post was at me not fair, if that was at me them you're insulting my resolve and reading comprehension, in my post you will never read something like me doubting NS, I defend this pairing to heart and never doubt it, I spend hours justifying why I strongly believe in NS and why it will be the end game. I think all pairing have flaws some more than others, but I don'tdoubt NaruSaku at all.

My complain is mostly against Kishi and the fact that he is forcing Naruto and Sakura to be devoted to Sasuke.
My complain about Kishi favoritism towards Sasuke, my complain that the manga revolve around Sasuke.
My complain is that we all know Sakura has stronger feeling for Naruto and the fact that she already chose Narutos over Sasuke.
My complian is that Naruto has make all kind off amazing sacrifices for Sakura, he's always there for her, he means everithing to her, but Kishi refuses to let her drop those feelings for Sasuke, those feeling are not real, Sakura has grown a lot from the little fangirl, he just keep hurting her character more and more.
I'm a NaruSaku fan yes, but I'm a Sakura & Naruto fan first.
I don't agree with some negative post against this pairing or someone bashing Sakura.

I did read another user comment and it was very negative, so if your rant was directed at him then I get where you're coming from I was there before.

If your post is not at me then I'm sorry, I deeply sorry. Also I do agree 100% with what you say minus the Sasuke part, in my opinion Naruto and Sakura should already question the value of thier friendship with Sasuke, the reason why I dislike Sasuke is because he thinks he is better than everyone because hee is an Uchiha, he doesn't care for anyone that isn't an Uchiha, he hurt Naruto and Sakura a lot and more important he betrayed them his friends his first bond even after he agree with Obito speech.

Also the fact that many justify his action and say things like Naruto & Sakura should always remaings devoted to him because they have a bond, drives me crazy. Sasuke have a bond with them he should remaing devoted to them too, but he doesn't care about them at all. That is not fair for Naruto and Sakura, why only those two need to cherish the bond they had before?
Just because Naruto and Sakura are not whining about revenche doesn't obligate them to stay loyal to him. Sasuke is not special, he made his own choice and he should pay for them.
Gaara did wrong and he die.
Nagato did wrong and he die.
Kabuto, Madara, and Tobi did wrong Sasuke did wrong too, but he will be the only one to get a slap in his back since he is Kishi special character.

So to be honest with you Sakura romantic feelings towards Sasuke is stupid, she and Sasuke never have a deep relationship between each other, what you say that many people still love someone even after they has been mistreated, that's truth but the key point (they already start a relationship) problems, jealousy mens been that way by nature creates those events, but again they started a relationship. Sakura and Sasuke never have that and the fact that he never acknowledged her meke it worse.

Kishi should use the next chance he get to make her get rid of those feeling, they only cause her pain on hurt additionaly it degrades her character.
He already kill that pairing a long time ago.

[kirabook]

I usually do not quote people cause I never just talk to one person directly. The reading comprehension was not an insult in general, but I think there are a few people who forget what has already happened in the manga and let new sudden events cloud the past as if it never existed. That is kind of what extremist NaruHina fans do, they glaze of the fact that there is no previous anything for their couple when something new happens with Hinata. As a fan, all of us should always based our opinions on what has happened already, those are hard cold facts, and we should not let speculation make us anxious.

Now then, moving on.

Sasuke, I don't really care for Sasuke. But like many other characters, he has his problems. Personally, I don't want him to be redeemed, he's already crossed the lines that I feel should be there many times over consciously. But we also can't overlook the fact that Naruto and Sakura, or at least Naruto, will not give up on him. They just won't let him go, even after he demanded it, hurt them for it, scorned them for it, nearly killed them for it, it's not going to happen. Not anytime soon anyway. No matter how much we dislike it, we can't deny that it's happening.

To this day, even though I'm 20 years old, I still remember my first crush all the way from Kindergarten. He would always suck his thumb and never talked to me directly, and though I can remember his face clearly, I can't remember his name. XD Things like that really do stick with some people, some worse than others. I do think she and Hinata take their first love stuff too far, but again, this is a shounen manga, it's there to make things interesting.

I don't think it degrades Sakura's character at all, it makes her all the more real and human to me. Yes, Kishi could put an end to all this silly pairing war stuff if he wants to, but he won't. It's a big part of his manga now, whether he intended it or not. Though I never really read the manga expecting more pairing fodder, it's everywhere in the fanbase.

[lord287]

I don't think it degrades Sakura's character at all, it makes her all the more real and human to me. Yes, Kishi could put an end to all this silly pairing war stuff if he wants to, but he won't. It's a big part of his manga now, whether he intended it or not. Though I never really read the manga expecting more pairing fodder, it's everywhere in the fanbase.

U r wrong I think! At least if the girl I love tried to kill me I won't just sit back but I will like to do something about it! Sakura is not doing anything like that! Sasuke tried to kill her twice and yet she is CONFUSED about her feelings! When someone tries to kill u specially if he is not very close relative(like real brother,mother or father) u can't just sit back and just think should I get over with him or not! Their is no question saying I am done with you , but no kishi wants to make sakura have feelings for sasuke(probably still romantic one)! In real life I don't imagine a scenario were if ur love tries to kill u but u still love him/her back! I will definitely seeing sakura character degrade a lot because of this! wasn't the part 1 sakura enough that now kishi is again making her think about sasuke in highly possible romantic sense!

Believe it or not people, most of the neutral fans and SS/NH fans are already having good time saying sakura still loves sasuke! I am an NS and I have some belief that the confession was true and chapter 540 was not an anti-NS moment but all other people except NS fans see those things as complete anti-NS!

I asked my brother who is 14 year old and have no interests in pairings say that Naruto won't be with sakura because sakura still loves sasuke! He told me earlier it looked like Sakura have developed feelings for naruto but after her confession and chapter 540, he also said chapter 573 might be anti-NS since if she says all will be together it means she wants to be just friends with Naruto and chase sasuke as her love, it is becoming more and more clearer that sakura still loves sasuke! I hope that kishi didn't make those chapters thinking that he might make narusaku crack in the end after so much development but I can see him doing it! After all Romance was mainly put in this manga for fans and going by fandom narusaku is pretty behind sasusaku if not naruhina atleast! I just want kishi not to get sold to fans and do what seems more sensible which is uptil now definitely narusaku but if sakura's feeling remains in confused state their won't be much time needed when NS will be same or even in deeper depths of sinking than SS/NH!

Edited by lord287, 10 May 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

U r wrong I think! At least if the girl I love tried to kill me I won't just sit back but I will like to do something about it! Sakura is not doing anything like that! Sasuke tried to kill her twice and yet she is CONFUSED about her feelings! When someone tries to kill u specially if he is not very close relative(like real brother,mother or father) u can't just sit back and just think should I get over with him or not! Their is no question saying I am done with you , but no kishi wants to make sakura have feelings for sasuke(probably still romantic one)! In real life I don't imagine a scenario were if ur love tries to kill u but u still love him/her back! I will definitely seeing sakura character degrade a lot because of this! wasn't the part 1 sakura enough that now kishi is again making her think about sasuke in highly possible romantic sense!

Believe it or not people, most of the neutral fans and SS/NH fans are already having good time saying sakura still loves sasuke! I am an NS and I have some belief that the confession was true and chapter 540 was not an anti-NS moment but all other people except NS fans see those things as complete anti-NS!

I asked my brother who is 14 year old and have no interests in pairings say that Naruto won't be with sakura because sakura still loves sasuke! He told me earlier it looked like Sakura have developed feelings for naruto but after her confession and chapter 540, he also said chapter 573 might be anti-NS since if she says all will be together it means she wants to be just friends with Naruto and chase sasuke as her love, it is becoming more and more clearer that sakura still loves sasuke! I hope that kishi didn't make those chapters thinking that he might make narusaku crack in the end after so much development but I can see him doing it! After all Romance was mainly put in this manga for fans and going by fandom narusaku is pretty behind sasusaku if not naruhina atleast! I just want kishi not to get sold to fans and do what seems more sensible which is uptil now definitely narusaku but if sakura's feeling remains in confused state their won't be much time needed when NS will be same or even in deeper depths of sinking than SS/NH!

So many others believe that Sakura loves only Sasuke because they except the obvious interpretation without going much into it. Looking "underneath the underneath". I've seen some neutral fans say that Sakura does love Naruto. There are many hints throughout and one panel(540) plus random moments of Hinata thinking about Naruto doesn't affect everything that happens. Honestly, I believe Sakura loves both Sasuke and Naruto. It's rather obvious to me. NARUSAKU IS NOT BEHIND SASUSAKU IN LIKELIHOOD. SasuSaku is dead. It died the moment Sasuke tried to kill Sakura. SasuSaku is the least of my worries right now. I see that pairing as no threat because I know Sakura won't end up with Sasuke. Too out of character. Same with NaruHina. My only doubts are Sakura not realizing her feelings for Naruto and there being no pairings or open-ended(If it's open-ended, I will be seriously pissed). That's all I worry about. I don't think Sakura's feelings are degrading her character either. Admittingly, I'm not exactly thrilled that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke but I realized it means her character development isn't finished. That's exactly what Kishimoto is doing.

Of course. It's common knowledge that the SasuSaku and NaruHina fandom is larger than NaruSaku...in the west. In Japan, NaruSaku is even more popular than NaruHina. Honestly, I doubt Kishimoto cares about what western fans say about pairings. He only pays attention to Japan. We don't need fandom number. Kishimoto already has his story planned out, including which pairing becomes canon. He said himself nothing is going to change his mind about the ending which includes fan pressure. Just have faith in Kishimoto's storyline and writing. He's going in the NaruSaku direction . 573 isn't anti-NS. Sakura's still confused about her feelings so don't expect her to spout another love confession in her head. She's not Hinata. Sakura is still an conflicted individual so be patient with her. It will be worth it in the end

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 10 May 2012 - 09:22 AM.

[redragon88]

I think I once heard that Kishimoto in an interview about the beginning of Part 2 said that he'll at least make one love reciprocated. Since when it comes to the main pairings it's generally assumed that either 2 loves are returned (NaruHina and SasuSaku) or 1 love is returned (NaruSaku), do you think this might have been an indirect message from Kishimoto?

[kidNinja]

He said himself nothing is going to change his mind about the ending which includes fan pressure.

I really hope so.

Edited by kidNinja, 10 May 2012 - 11:36 AM.

[kirabook]

Again, you must live in a very small bubble. Haven't you ever heard of the abusive relationships where even after the woman has been beaten and nearly killed, she still goes back to them because she loves them? Love can be a blessing or a curse. In this case, Sakura is still clinging onto it, desperately to me, and you just can't deny that it's happening.

But does this hurt NaruSaku? No. I already said I don't think it does. Nothing has changed at all with NaruSaku other than Sakura's feelings finally being brought to the center almost. At some point soon she'll have to deal with it. I'm not worried about SasuSaku because Sasuke OBVIOUSLY has no interest in romance, especially romance with Sakura. But I think you're caring too much about what other shippers think. Of course they'll try to make anything positive negative and cheer when something negative happens. :/

I'm also tired of seeing "This is an anti-NaruSaku moment!" type crap. I don't feel like repeating myself, but we just CAN'T look at every chapter for face value. Ever chapter has previous chapter and previous build up that we must take into consideration. If you look at 540 not for the number, but for how it fits in with what has already happened, it means nothing. We already knew that Sakura had conflict over Sasuke. We can't even call it a pro-SasuSaku moment because one side wasn't even present or thinking about Sakura at all. It wasn't any moment other than Sakura dwelling over Sasuke, her first love.

Do you know what I consider anti-pairing moments? When one or both sides lays it down permanently that something can't happen. For example, the moment that Minato sealed Kurama and Kushina died, that is an anti-life moment. Silly I know, but that's the best way I can explain it. It's permanent, and cannot be changed or fixed.

Any moment where 2 characters are together and do something together that hints at romance, positive or negative, it is probably a pro-pairing moment, as long as both sides are actually communicating. Which is why I still consider Sakura's confession a "pro" moment as people say. Naruto and Sakura can't always have good times, no couple does. Naruto hadn't really argued like that with Sakura before, I thought it was exciting and very couple like. But... maybe I was alone with that.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Again, you must live in a very small bubble. Haven't you ever heard of the abusive relationships where even after the woman has been beaten and nearly killed, she still goes back to them because she loves them? Love can be a blessing or a curse. In this case, Sakura is still clinging onto it, desperately to me, and you just can't deny that it's happening.

But does this hurt NaruSaku? No. I already said I don't think it does. Nothing has changed at all with NaruSaku other than Sakura's feelings finally being brought to the center almost. At some point soon she'll have to deal with it. I'm not worried about SasuSaku because Sasuke OBVIOUSLY has no interest in romance, especially romance with Sakura. But I think you're caring too much about what other shippers think. Of course they'll try to make anything positive negative and cheer when something negative happens. :/

I'm also tired of seeing "This is an anti-NaruSaku moment!" type crap. I don't feel like repeating myself, but we just CAN'T look at every chapter for face value. Ever chapter has previous chapter and previous build up that we must take into consideration. If you look at 540 not for the number, but for how it fits in with what has already happened, it means nothing. We already knew that Sakura had conflict over Sasuke. We can't even call it a pro-SasuSaku moment because one side wasn't even present or thinking about Sakura at all. It wasn't any moment other than Sakura dwelling over Sasuke, her first love.

Do you know what I consider anti-pairing moments? When one or both sides lays it down permanently that something can't happen. For example, the moment that Minato sealed Kurama and Kushina died, that is an anti-life moment. Silly I know, but that's the best way I can explain it. It's permanent, and cannot be changed or fixed.

Any moment where 2 characters are together and do something together that hints at romance, positive or negative, it is probably a pro-pairing moment, as long as both sides are actually communicating. Which is why I still consider Sakura's confession a "pro" moment as people say. Naruto and Sakura can't always have good times, no couple does. Naruto hadn't really argued like that with Sakura before, I thought it was exciting and very couple like. But... maybe I was alone with that.

[Don-kun]

Again, you must live in a very small bubble. Haven't you ever heard of the abusive relationships where even after the woman has been beaten and nearly killed, she still goes back to them because she loves them? Love can be a blessing or a curse. In this case, Sakura is still clinging onto it, desperately to me, and you just can't deny that it's happening.

But does this hurt NaruSaku? No. I already said I don't think it does. Nothing has changed at all with NaruSaku other than Sakura's feelings finally being brought to the center almost. At some point soon she'll have to deal with it. I'm not worried about SasuSaku because Sasuke OBVIOUSLY has no interest in romance, especially romance with Sakura. But I think you're caring too much about what other shippers think. Of course they'll try to make anything positive negative and cheer when something negative happens. :/

I'm also tired of seeing "This is an anti-NaruSaku moment!" type crap. I don't feel like repeating myself, but we just CAN'T look at every chapter for face value. Ever chapter has previous chapter and previous build up that we must take into consideration. If you look at 540 not for the number, but for how it fits in with what has already happened, it means nothing. We already knew that Sakura had conflict over Sasuke. We can't even call it a pro-SasuSaku moment because one side wasn't even present or thinking about Sakura at all. It wasn't any moment other than Sakura dwelling over Sasuke, her first love.

Do you know what I consider anti-pairing moments? When one or both sides lays it down permanently that something can't happen. For example, the moment that Minato sealed Kurama and Kushina died, that is an anti-life moment. Silly I know, but that's the best way I can explain it. It's permanent, and cannot be changed or fixed.

Any moment where 2 characters are together and do something together that hints at romance, positive or negative, it is probably a pro-pairing moment, as long as both sides are actually communicating. Which is why I still consider Sakura's confession a "pro" moment as people say. Naruto and Sakura can't always have good times, no couple does. Naruto hadn't really argued like that with Sakura before, I thought it was exciting and very couple like. But... maybe I was alone with that.

Again Nice post, but like I stated before. Don't justify Sakura's feeling with a real life relationship, only a crazy person will get together with a men/girl that abuse them in thier first date.
I don't care about SS at all (well maybe Kishi writing) but logicaly SS is the worse pairing is worse than a crack paring. NS & NH only covers 15% off all the negative SS present.

Abusive relation are wrong but they do have something when it started, a two side commitment and a mutual affection, at sometime in the relationship there was love.
With Sasuke>>>>Sakura there was never love he was a wild doberman when ever Sakura try to get too close, that is why I call SS the worse excuse of a pairing. It's just not possible for me to believe a pairing with this much abuse can even be considered even a possible crack pairing.

I find that SS on a lower level than a crack pairing because I think I've seen crack pairings have more love than SS has. Somehow though, when Sasuke beating on Sakura is considered a SS moment, that makes me wonder if SS is supporting the ordinary girl with dark brooding guy, or is it supporting guys beating on girls?

And no SS is not = to a real life relationship where the girl/buy still love their abuser, that relation did have love at some time, SS never had that. SS is like a Virus you can't get rid of.

[kirabook]

Every abusive relationship is different. Some start off with love and go sour, some were always sour and get worse, and some are forced relationships where one is too afraid to break it off. Not every abusive relationship is the same or involves love from both parties at all. In fact, many of these said relationships involves 1 party just using the other for what they want and throwing them away when they are no longer of use.

Sakura's relation to Sasuke is more like the middle option, but of course it does not fit perfectly. There was never anything between Sakura and Sasuke in the first place, but Sakura is kind of like a woman who will love her abuser no matter what. Right now anyway.

I personally don't believe she is actually in love with Sasuke right now and she feels she should be, due to Naruto's insistence that Sasuke can come back, but that is just my interpretation.

Real life has many different forms of the same thing, so you can't say that their current situation has not happened IRL, because is has.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q...g their abusers

[Master_Naruto]

Don't forget that Kushina and Minato apparently argued all the time too. When they were both stabbed by the nine tails, Kushina said something about Minato being right for the first time. Having conflicts in a relationship doesn't end the relationship.

Edited by Master_Naruto, 10 May 2012 - 11:56 PM.

[Paptala]

@kirabook: You make excellent points, especially about the fact that we need to look at the manga in its entirety rather than take each chapter by itself. Kishimoto has been building up Naruto and Sakura's relationship this entire time, and the fact that he's taken the time to do so gradually gives it more realism in my opinion.

I think that Sakura honestly doesn't know what she feels right now - for Sasuke or Naruto. I honestly believe that she is in love with Naruto, and that her feelings for him are stronger than her feelings for Sasuke - Kishimoto has shown us this through Sakura's actions time and time again over the course of the manga. I just think that Sakura hasn't realized that herself yet. She's just so used to believing that she's in love with Sasuke that it's probably a difficult thing to overcome. The fact that she's literally only seen Sasuke face to face twice in all of three (probably closer to four now) years, and all she's really holding onto is this memory of a person that she had built up into a fantasy when she was younger.

Even more important is that throughout all of this, when has Sakura really had the chance to just sit down and introspect on her feelings for anyone? She began to rethink her stance on Sasuke in 540 though it seemed. Hopefully, we'll see more insight into Sakura's thought process in future chapters.

I also agree that Naruto and Sakura's argument at the summit wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It certainly gives more realism to the relationship, and it showed that they are balanced well. Neither backed down from the other (showing that neither one is going to just walk all over the other), and they were fighting in the interests of each other too - Sakura for Naruto's safety and feelings, and Naruto for Sakura to be true to herself (even if he was mistaken, he believed her to be lying to herself at the time).

Edited by Paptala, 11 May 2012 - 02:06 AM.

[narusakufan122]

I think it might just be meant to show you how she felt a little better. A good compare of interest she had for Sasuke and Naruto at the start of the show. Will it come up, probably not. Will NaruSaku happen because of parallels like this? Yes. Anyway, welcome fresh meat. Hope you enjoy your stay here with the family.

Thanks

[narusakufan122]

Fact of the matter is that out of the three main pairings (NH, SS, NS) NS is the only pairing to have been steadily developing.
All three pairings start out the same where we know that the one side loves the other but we're unclear on the other side.
But then look what happens. NH = 0 development. Nothing has happened. We know Hinata loves Naruto but Naruto never thinks about Hinata and there not even that close .
SS=this pairing has actually backpeddled. From going to being certain that Sakura loved Sasuke to being uncertain if she really does anymore. Sasuke has never given her a thought and if that wasn't enough, he tried to kill her. TWICE!!

NS= They are the only pairing that has been developing. From going to finding Naruto annoying Sakura has gone to respecting him, trusting him and they would both go through hell and back for eachother. There are just to many parallels, too many moments where Sakura has looked at Naruto in a way that surpasses close friendship,for this pairing not to happen.

[ichaichamaster]

so i want to talk about narusaku hints in kishi interviews. i have never read one. do you have any info on that stuff?

[Gravenimage]

@kirabook: You make excellent points, especially about the fact that we need to look at the manga in its entirety rather than take each chapter by itself. Kishimoto has been building up Naruto and Sakura's relationship this entire time, and the fact that he's taken the time to do so gradually gives it more realism in my opinion.

I think that Sakura honestly doesn't know what she feels right now - for Sasuke or Naruto. I honestly believe that she is in love with Naruto, and that her feelings for him are stronger than her feelings for Sasuke - Kishimoto has shown us this through Sakura's actions time and time again over the course of the manga. I just think that Sakura hasn't realized that herself yet. She's just so used to believing that she's in love with Sasuke that it's probably a difficult thing to overcome. The fact that she's literally only seen Sasuke face to face twice in all of three (probably closer to four now) years, and all she's really holding onto is this memory of a person that she had built up into a fantasy when she was younger.

Even more important is that throughout all of this, when has Sakura really had the chance to just sit down and introspect on her feelings for anyone? She began to rethink her stance on Sasuke in 540 though it seemed. Hopefully, we'll see more insight into Sakura's thought process in future chapters.

I also agree that Naruto and Sakura's argument at the summit wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It certainly gives more realism to the relationship, and it showed that they are balanced well. Neither backed down from the other (showing that neither one is going to just walk all over the other), and they were fighting in the interests of each other too - Sakura for Naruto's safety and feelings, and Naruto for Sakura to be true to herself (even if he was mistaken, he believed her to be lying to herself at the time).

You're right as always but the problem is a lot of people likes to twist this logic point into something negative and bad. It's better to think that she's still loves Sasuke destroying the possibility for NS to become canon I see it as a bunch of BS. Why do they have to keep saying that if Sakura has feelings for Sasuke she's in love with him. When it comes to Sakura and feelings concerning Sasuke it has to be of love but it can't be said the same thing when it's about Naruto God forbid that (the hypocrisy amazes me). What if those feelings she has for him are about friendship? Why can't they reason that hose feelings are formed from the deep bond team seven has, Sakura probably sees Sasuke the same way Naruto sees him, as an important friend and former teammate. The team seven bond is even stronger than the ones the sanin had ciardha has pin pointed out this so many times I get annoyed when it's mentioned again.

Instead it is balanced her feelings for Naruto- nothing but pure friendship

Her feelings flor Sasuke- pure undying love.

But this can be turn around and this is how I see it.

Feelings for Naruto- powerful selfless love.

Feelings for Sasuke- first crush and long lost friend.

It is cleared she loves Naruto more than Sasuke I have gotten tired of Kishi always rubbing it in my face or slapping it with the many paralels he has done to prove his pairing of choice. However I have come to see it that there are 3 things more like barriers that are keeping Sakura from forming a relationship with Naruto.

1. Fear of hurting him- this is obvious from 459 when Sai told her that the POAL was like a curse that was hurting Naruto and Sakura saw it as the one who gave him the burden and the pain. To hurt him again will crush her forever she might never forgive herself.

2. Her bond with Sasuke- we can see this clearly with hesitating to kill him, crying for him and 540 makes her to think of those old feelings when she used to be a fan girl fantasizing that he was the perfect, great guy.

3. Naruto himself- this is because Naruto doesn't want to admit that she has changed moving on from any romantic feelings towards Sasuke and is now in love with him, Also that he has shown that until he saves Sasuke and ends the war he won't be making a move on her (if he can have the courage to tell her his feelings, I doubt he will though).

Edited by Gravenimage, 11 May 2012 - 04:30 PM.

[Don-kun]

Fact of the matter is that out of the three main pairings (NH, SS, NS) NS is the only pairing to have been steadily developing.
All three pairings start out the same where we know that the one side loves the other but we're unclear on the other side.
But then look what happens. NH = 0 development. Nothing has happened. We know Hinata loves Naruto but Naruto never thinks about Hinata and there not even that close .
SS=this pairing has actually backpeddled. From going to being certain that Sakura loved Sasuke to being uncertain if she really does anymore. Sasuke has never given her a thought and if that wasn't enough, he tried to kill her. TWICE!!

NS= They are the only pairing that has been developing. From going to finding Naruto annoying Sakura has gone to respecting him, trusting him and they would both go through hell and back for eachother. There are just to many parallels, too many moments where Sakura has looked at Naruto in a way that surpasses close friendship,for this pairing not to happen.

Agree with this.