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#7561 Fenris

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Zeref there is no "If" in the story
@Fenris i think she loves him , she cound't kill him and she still has feelings for him her love is genuine .

i cant say if sakura will end up with sasuke or naruto because of her feelings , naruto has the advantage because he is growing in power and personality , sasuke is becoming more evil as the time passes we just have to wait and see.

Her love for him isn't genuine if she's ashamed of her feelings. Just because she couldn't kill him doesn't mean she loves him. He was her friend, I sure as hell wouldn't be able to kill a former friend even if he/she hated my guts.
if you ask me, her feelings for Naruto are genuine.
 
 
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Jan 1 2012, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Her love for him isn't genuine if she's ashamed of her feelings. Just because she couldn't kill him doesn't mean she loves him. He was her friend, I sure as hell wouldn't be able to kill a former friend even if he/she hated my guts.
if you ask me, her feelings for Naruto are genuine.

Like I've said several times before, I don't believe that Sakura has ever truly loved Sasuke. I think she just confused a mix of other feelings (an enormous crush being part of it) for love.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I've said several times before, I don't believe that Sakura has ever truly loved Sasuke. I think she just confused a mix of other feelings (an enormous crush being part of it) for love.

Yeah, and team 7
 
 
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#7564 Thomas

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:53 PM

when she was going to kill him , she didnt remind of the picture of the team 7 she reminds of her confession scene, she coundnt kill sasuke becasue she realized that was in love with him, and later she didnt was ashmad she was sad because he is a horrible guy and she is in love with him.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when she was going to kill him , she didnt remind of the picture of the team 7 she reminds of her confession scene, she coundnt kill sasuke becasue she realized that was in love with him, and later she didnt was ashmad she was sad because he is a horrible guy and she is in love with him.

She thinks that she's in love with him. Thinks.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She thinks that she's in love with him. Thinks.

She loves Naruto, and like Zac said, she thinks she's in love with Sasuke. Her "love" for Sasuke was bloomed from the forehead scene and a childhood crush that was boiled up from him being the popular guy and the school crush. She never realized she was in love with Sasuke in recent chapters, never. The only thing that has been shown in recent chapters was her wanting to move on from Sasuke.
 
 
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#7567 Thomas

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She thinks that she's in love with him. Thinks.

i disagree with u .
re-read manga 540 and her meeting with sasuke when she tried to kill him in any moment she thinks about the team 7.
the problem is she didnt grow up and i think kishi is up to do something with her

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i disagree with u .
re-read manga 540 and her meeting with sasuke when she tried to kill him in any moment she thinks about the team 7.
the problem is she didnt grow up and i think kishi is up to do something with her

...I'm sorry, I didn't really understand what you said there too clearly. Can you try to be more clear so I understand your intention more accurately? Sorry sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:17 PM

when she met sasuke and when she could not kill him the images that comes in her mind are not from the team 7 but her confession scene , so when she could not kill him she realized that she really loved him , her feeling for sasuke are still the same, in manga 540 kishimoto shows up that she is still in love with sasuke despite she barely got killed by him, but she realizes who sasuke really is , and it makes her feel sad.( she hopes for a happy ending for all)
if something should happen narusaku, kishimoto has to do something with her and make her to choose between naruto or sasuke.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when she met sasuke and when she could not kill him the images that comes in her mind are not from the team 7 but her confession scene , so when she could not kill him she realized that she really loved him , her feeling for sasuke are still the same, in manga 540 kishimoto shows up that she is still in love with sasuke despite she barely got killed by him, but she realizes who sasuke really is , and it makes her feel sad.( she hopes for a happy ending for all)
if something should happen narusaku, kishimoto has to do something with her and make her to choose between naruto or sasuke.

That's the thing: flashing back to the confession doesn't prove that she loves him. It proves that she thinks that she loves him, but not that she truly loves him. I can tell you with the utmost certainty that a large crush is not the same as love, and a large crush is all that she's displayed so far. It's difficult for her to get over simply because it's her first enormous crush, her first "love" according to her.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the thing: flashing back to the confession doesn't prove that she loves him. It proves that she thinks that she loves him, but not that she truly loves him. I can tell you with the utmost certainty that a large crush is not the same as love, and a large crush is all that she's displayed so far. It's difficult for her to get over simply because it's her first enormous crush, her first "love" according to her.


i disagree, u say she "thinks" this is so vague...
she loves him and she proves it, the problem is she didnt grow up despite other characters like naruto,ino,shikamaru etc.. she do not have an experience like then , she still thinks that in the end everything will be ok , that sasuke will return and etc , she stills a child and rely on naruto.
but she likes naruto too not in same same intensity like sasuke when she make her fake confession she said a lot of reasons for a girl to fall in love with naruto but despite it she could not ,
she wanted to flee with sasuke after that fake confession but it failed because sasuke's main objective is to destroy konoha then she wanted tried to kill sasuke because she could not betray naruto.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:43 PM

Thomas is right Fenris

Sakura did not say that she have a boyfreind but we all know Kishi was aiming to that.
She say she there is someone when in reality she had no one she need to fix her confession with Naruto and she clearly know Sasuke don't like her that should be clear o her by now.

I can say that I have a strong feeling that there will be a NaruSaku end, but right know there is only one think Naruto cannot beat Sasuke with and that is with Sakura heart, for crying out laoud she just confess her love to Naruto
why Kishi did that to his heroine we all could still think she like Sasuke but Kishi had to make it clear to all reader after her confession.

There are three event killing her character

1-Not hurting Sasuke when she was close to hurt him.

2-Thinking that there will be a happy endind for Team 7 by putting her faith in Naruto and Sasuke, not Naruto both when Sasuke in less than half an hour ago was trying to kill her twice.

3-540 she just tell Naruto she love him but then she turned around and Say there is still someone that someone been Naruto but still needing to be clear about her feeling will make a lot of sense sinse she confess and argued strongly that she loved him.

Even if she say sorry there is someone I like, but in her mind she say he hurt me in the past I connot think about love right know, that will make even more sense.

Edited by donjoseph19, 01 January 2012 - 09:47 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i disagree, u say she "thinks" this is so vague...
she loves him and she proves it, the problem is she didnt grow up despite other characters like naruto,ino,shikamaru etc.. she do not have an experience like then , she still thinks that in the end everything will be ok , that sasuke will return and etc , she stills a child and rely on naruto.
but she likes naruto too not in same same intensity like sasuke when she make her fake confession she said a lot of reasons for a girl to fall in love with naruto but despite it she could not ,
she wanted to flee with sasuke after that fake confession but it failed because sasuke's main objective is to destroy konoha then she wanted tried to kill sasuke because she could not betray naruto.

She does not think that everything will be ok; this is proven when she tried to kill Sasuke.

Also, she did not want to flee with Sasuke; which manga are you reading? She lied and tried to trick him so that she could kill him behind his back. She was there to kill him in the first place, not to join him.

In addition, list your reasons for her proving that she truly loves him. Reasons that can't be misinterpreted as crush material, by the way, and that can't be proven wrong.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She does not think that everything will be ok; this is proven when she tried to kill Sasuke.

Also, she did not want to flee with Sasuke; which manga are you reading? She lied and tried to trick him so that she could kill him behind his back. She was there to kill him in the first place, not to join him.

In addition, list your reasons for her proving that she truly loves him. Reasons that can't be misinterpreted as crush material, by the way, and that can't be proven wrong.


Exactly she agreed to go with him for a chance to kill him.


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

I don't know if anyone argue in this.

We all know that sakura still have a lingering feelings for sasuke,And she call those feelings love but it's not,And once again we know that she have some feelings for naruto and confused about the feelings,Have anyone thought why she is confused about them?
The answer is that Sakura's feelings that she have for sasuke is not more then a crush,The feelings she have for Naruto is love but she don't know that yet.

(Iam not so good at debating so i may be wrong once again.)

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

Wrong!
after putting everyone to sleep she arrives and says



its does not prove anything lets go to the next page



after realizing sasuke true intention , if her true plan is to kill sasuke why she had doubts and say this



after this , its proved that she does not have a plan , she was trying to convince herself she didnt come with a plan she wanted to go with sasuke but she could not because of sasuke's intentions.



i think i dont need to explain this

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jan 1 2012, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She does not think that everything will be ok; this is proven when she tried to kill Sasuke.

Also, she did not want to flee with Sasuke; which manga are you reading? She lied and tried to trick him so that she could kill him behind his back. She was there to kill him in the first place, not to join him.

In addition, list your reasons for her proving that she truly loves him. Reasons that can't be misinterpreted as crush material, by the way, and that can't be proven wrong.



Until this day I still think Sakura don't really love Sasuke as she always think again there is no reason likk him only to hate him, what Kishi is doing to Naruto and Sakura is very cruel and humiliating for a Heroine and a Hero of if story only because he is more fun of Sasuke.

They ask her I really don't know if this was filler but she say somthing like she like him because all the other girls do.

But in Manga Sasuke is cool and hot that is her main reason for lovin him and in 568 chapters that's all we see Sakura lovin Sasuke for. This is a stupid 8 years crush and why stupit because she has zero pride after all what he did to her to still think about him that way.


But to be honest she was using Naruto's feeling to get Sasuke back, she try to stop but she start using then again after she say because of Naruto there can still be a happy ending for everyone, but Naruto that if they fight they will both Die.

Edited by donjoseph19, 01 January 2012 - 10:20 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

@Thomas
Dude. It was explained by Sai before she even arrived there what her true intentions were. She expressed shock just because it was the first time that she heard directly from Sasuke what he really planned to do. Hearing it directly from him shocked her, even though she knew his basic intentions already.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Jan 1 2012, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong!
after putting everyone to sleep she arrives and says


its does not prove anything lets go to the next page


I thought it was pretty obvious that she was lying. She brought poisoned kunai with her for a reason, and I doubt she just decided to kill him on the spot. She already knew he was dangerous, so I don't see how she could have been originally planning to join him, and only change her mind after she realized he was really dangerous. I'm not saying it's impossible, but that's not how I read that scene, and I haven't seen any strong evidence to irrefutably support that conclusion.

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after realizing sasuke true intention , if her true plan is to kill sasuke why she had doubts and say this

after this , its proved that she does not have a plan , she was trying to convince herself she didnt come with a plan she wanted to go with sasuke but she could not because of sasuke's intentions.

Planning to kill old friend/crush is much different than actually attempting it. I'm sure she ran the idea through her head multiple times en route to Iron Country, but thinking it over doesn't make it any easier. Both of those scenes were introspective moments on Sakura's part, reminding us for the millionth time just how strong the Team 7 bond was.
In any case, it's kind of a stretch to assume she was planning to join him simply because she couldn't kill him.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:25 PM

This is getting odd. mellow.gif Sakura was obviously lying to Sasuke about coming with him to get CLOSE to him in order to kill him right there on the spot. She couldndt just go wandering up to him without a intention to make him somewhat "trust her" or he would of killed her then and there before she even got the chance to try to kill him.
Are we getting the whole ''She tried to kill him four times'' and ''Did everything for the safety of Naruto", "Never wants to see Naruto get hurt," "Wants to protect Naruto" thing? dry.gif Sakura has no real reason to love Sasuke. Sasuke choking her and nearly slitting her throat with a kunai sure as hell knocked some sense into her if she's now viewing her feelings for him in a bad light.

Edited by Fenris, 01 January 2012 - 10:26 PM.

 
 
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