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[Quinny52]

@ StriderC - Don't be too down, Hou. Slex gets the win from me, but yours is cool too. Makes me have thoughts about submitting something for the Winter Contest, it'd be a first for me.

But to get back on topic, sushi's post puts things into perspective. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke (whatever they may be and how deep they go) are consistently shown to have no benefit to her character. In honesty, I see them as a handicap, doing nothing for her except holding her back. When Sasuke first left Konoha, Sakura, both physically and character wise, improved considerably. She now had the physical capabillities to make her a critical part of the team, and not an unwilling burden that she was for the most part in Part 1. Her character benefitted because, instead of suppressing what she really felt and acting in a way she assumed Sasuke wanted, she was free to express herself fully, with no worry for what Sasuke thought (which, from what I've seen, I don't think he cared either way). Sasuke leaving is one of the best things to happen to Sakura, but until she can come to a conclusion over Sasuke, she can't therefore conclude her relationship with Naruto (again, whatever those feelings are, and how deep they go). The Sasuke situation must be finished with before the next stage of her character development can begin. One day, we are going to find out where she stands with Naruto, without any doubt or ambiguity hanging over it, but first we must find where she stands with Sasuke. The bond will always remain in some form, but unil she finds closure she'll never be free.

That's my take on things, anyway.

Edited by Quinny52, 31 December 2012 - 11:17 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

@ StriderC - Don't be too down, Hou. Slex gets the win from me, but yours is cool too. Makes me have thoughts about submitting something for the Winter Contest, it'd be a first for me.

But to get back on topic, sushi's post puts things into perspective. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke (whatever they may be and how deep they go) are consistently shown to have no benefit to her character. In honesty, I see them as a handicap, doing nothing for her except holding her back. When Sasuke first left Konoha, Sakura, both physically and character wise, improved considerably. She now had the physical capabillities to make her a critical part of the team, and not an unwilling burden that she was for the most part in Part 1. Her character benefitted because, instead of suppressing what she really felt and acting in a way she assumed Sasuke wanted, she was free to express herself fully, with no worry for what Sasuke thought (which, from what I've seen, I don't think he cared either way). Sasuke leaving is one of the best things to happen to Sakura, but until she can come to a conclusion over Sasuke, she can't therefore conclude her relationship with Naruto (again, whatever those feelings are, and how deep they go). The Sasuke situation must be finished with before the next stage of her character development can begin. One day, we are going to find out where she stands with Naruto, without any doubt or ambiguity hanging over it, but first we must find where she stands with Sasuke. The bond will always remain in some form, but unil she finds closure she'll never be free.

That's my take on things, anyway.

Even for your take on things, Quinny, you're not wrong =) I mean, let's face it, Sakura tried to hold back too much when it came to her feelings to Sasuke, while around Naruto, she never needed to hold back at all since he always believed in her, even when she was feeling like a burden as she did before the end of Part 1 of the manga. After all, it's because of how he felt for her and his faith in her that made him see Sakura was strong already, even when she was put down by Sasuke, or when she felt useless.

[CreamPuffCreamCake]

I have recently read the newest Naruto chapter and I thought that it didn't make Naruhina cannon. But then on youtube i saw that people reviewing 615 putting titles "Naruhina confirmed!" or "Naruhina biju mode" and now im getting pretty scared that my least favourite kitten has become cannon and kishi has just thrown the narusaku development in the trash.
please, please tell me that this isnt the end and that NS will preveal

[sushi.]

I think this should be posted in Icha icha NS

On-topic, yes. I will think they are canon until Naruto tells Hinata he loves her, then they make out. Btw, you should make a poll! ^^ With more than two alternatives, of course.

[AnaHatakechan]

As of now it's hard to tell. Apart of me says yes and another says this is it.
But NaruHina is NOT canon, not at the moment anyway. We need to think logically to what this chapter actually means. This chapter I find is for development to Hinata's character not just for NaruHina. This is the only moment where NH has mutual development so I don't blame them for being thrilled but they are jumping to conclusions and will skip and forget important facts.
I also find that this chapter lacked a romantic atmosphere and was rushed, out of character for both Naruto and Hinata not to mention forced. Hinata gave a speech to Naruto but she wasn't speaking of her own personal feelings for Naruto we are reminded of her feelings when she states that Naruto's hand is big and strong or what ever it said. Naruto didn't say he had ANY feelings toward Hinata in the slightest but because Hinata loves Naruto they asume that this moment was for NaruHina becoming canon. It was romantic on Hinata's behalf but with Naruto it's a different case. We have to consider Naruto's feelings in all of this. From what we can gather Naruto is still in love with Sakura because we haven't been told other wise.
Naruto holding Hinata's hand can be away of showing her acknowledgement because Hinata has always want to be Naruto's equal and fight along side him. This could lead to romantic feelings but I don't see Naruto falling for Hinata just like that and I don't think he will forget about his feelings for Sakura. Some said in another thread that Hinata may be next to Naruto at this moment in time but Sakura will always be in front of Naruto.
Think about the panel where we are given an insight to Sakura's reaction to something.
We just have to see what Kishimoto is trying to pull from this. I don't think he'll just throw away the NS development just like that.

[HalfStarStudios]

A chance, yes. Is that chance smaller than NH's chance of being canon? Yes.

[Serenity Namikaze]

A chance, yes. Is that chance smaller than NH's chance of being canon? Yes.

I don't see why NH has better chances then NS with this ONE chapter. I admit that this chapter has mutual NH moment, a big one. To tell if it's romantic or not depend on the reader's view but for me the only hint that show romance is Hinata's comment about Naruto's hand. Naruto may have been the one that initiate the hand holding but I don't see any sign of romantic developement on his part. He did that to give her his chakra the same way Kurama transfer chakra to Kakashi.

To make NH a bigger treat to NS, Naruto has to show that he might consider Hinata as more then friend and to make NH cannon we have to see resolution on his feeleing toward Sakura. Until that happen, NS still have a bigger chances since they have more mutual development and the last hint of romance on Naruto's side was toward Sakura and we all know that even if she still have some feeling for Sasuke, she's stilll confuse about her feeling toward Naruto as been told in the latest Naruto databook.

For now, I'll say that NH took a big step but is still far for being consider as a real treat to NS.

Edited by Serenity Namikaze, 31 December 2012 - 05:53 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

. He did that to give her his chakra the same way Kurama transfer chakra to Kakashi.

I'm only going to reply to this because I don't feel like arguing about which one has more chances or not(because I'm not in denial).

You cannot state that as a fact because it's not. It's just an assumption. I valid one but just an assumption.

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 31 December 2012 - 06:05 PM.

[sushi.]

I'm only going to reply to this because I don't feel like arguing about which one has more chances or not(because I'm not in denial).

You cannot state that as a fact because it's not. It's just an assumption. I valid one but just an assumption.

Giving Hinata chakra was the main reason he held her hand. It is unknown if there is an ulterior motive.

But I just can't imagine him doing it for romantic purposes. Naruto was OOC this chapter, but him thinking "I need Hinata's hand to keep me down on earth, she is my angel and she will guide me to maturity" is just waay over the top. If he was thinking that, it would be so OOC that I would divide Naruto into two characters.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Can we all please stop creating separate threads for NaruSaku discussion, when we already have a perfectly good and active thread for that. Also, this thread was created in the wrong section. Supposed to be in Icha Icha NaruSaku not in Ninja Enrollment. Threads merged.

[sushi.]

^To Creampuffcream-chan's defense, she is new. ^^

I don't think she'll do the same mistake again. Sorry

[StriderC]

It's super cute, right? :3


Yay!


Don't worry, Strider! Yours is still amazing, even if it's second best. c:

Ohhh hush up! Slex. You don't have to rub it in. T_T

Quinny. I thought you of all people would pick mine.

[Liu bie]

I think this should be posted in Icha icha NS

On-topic, yes. I will think they are canon until Naruto tells Hinata he loves her, then they make out. Btw, you should make a poll! ^^ With more than two alternatives, of course.

The bad thing is Naruto type is a Shounen, Romance in this typeof manga sometimes are not clarify well. Even Holding hands will tell you that a couple are together and you will know until the end. It will difficult to see a scene Naruto telling Hinata that loves her, even it will more difficult with Sakura. To that is more possible will have a random comedy scene and then the fans have to figure out what happened.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The bad thing is Naruto type is a Shounen, Romance in this typeof manga sometimes are not clarify well. Even Holding hands will tell you that a couple are together and you will know until the end. It will difficult to see a scene Naruto telling Hinata that loves her, even it will more difficult with Sakura. To that is more possible will have a random comedy scene and then the fans have to figure out what happened.

I doubt even if it's a shounen we got an entire arc dedicated to romance the kage summit when the climax was Sakura, Naruto is not super generic when it comes to romance, he has reasons to love Sakura and Sakura have feelings for Naruto, Hinata loves Naruto but Naruto does not love her back because his heart is with Sakura all along, like i said for Nh to be canon SS must come first.
I doubt there will be a comedy scene i think it will be dramatic Naruto stated many times he would confess, it may be that his confession be a comedy scene like everyone knowing that Naruto would confess and they are hiding awaiting for Naruto to finish his confession.
It's even possible.
And moreover that Nh fan said that Sai's flashback was before the confession, but when sai told to Naruto that he told Sakura about his feelings he did not reject what Sai's said.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 December 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I doubt even if it's a shounen we got an entire arc dedicated to romance the kage summit when the climax was Sakura, Naruto is not super generic when it comes to romance, he has reasons to love Sakura and Sakura have feelings for Naruto, Hinata loves Naruto but Naruto does not love her back because his heart is with Sakura all along, like i said for Nh to be canon SS must come first.
I doubt there will be a comedy scene i think it will be dramatic Naruto stated many times he would confess, it may be that his confession be a comedy scene like everyone knowing that Naruto would confess and they are hiding awaiting for Naruto to finish his confession.
It's even possible.
And moreover that Nh fan said that Sai's flashback was before the confession, but when sai told to Naruto that he told Sakura about his feelings he did not reject what Sai's said.

I always think the confession from Naruto will go down the same route as FMA but more of a serious route when Naruto talks from the heart. It will start off comedy with Sakura knowing that he loves her thanks to Sai and Naruto may go all mad at Sai (while not in presence). It makes you wonder, why Sakura doesn't tell him that she knows about his feelings? That could be addressed in many ways.

[merryGOflava]

if naruto returned hinata's feelings it's gonna make that 235 filler when he confesses his love for sakura awkward XD LOL

[Chucky-kun]

if naruto returned hinata's feelings it's gonna make that 235 filler when he confesses his love for sakura awkward XD LOL

It would mean that Naruto got over Sakura off panel.
This would mean that kishi's writing is shi*t
And if NH can accept kitten writing just to make their couple canon, then fine by me.

[Arachnia]

I always think the confession from Naruto will go down the same route as FMA but more of a serious route when Naruto talks from the heart. It will start off comedy with Sakura knowing that he loves her thanks to Sai and Naruto may go all mad at Sai (while not in presence). It makes you wonder, why Sakura doesn't tell him that she knows about his feelings? That could be addressed in many ways.

well i pretty much liked FMA ending and not the old 1 but i mean brotherhood well i gess if that would happen in naruto something what you just said it would be awsome but lets keep our fingers X it still aint looking sunny for us

[Dark Desire]

When I first read the new chapter, I was scared that NH would become canon. But after thinking about it and consulting with my brother (Mathias OSX), I found that I didn't care any longer. I don't think that one event like this would change Naruto's mind after he fancied Sakura for so many years. Also, considering how dense Naruto is, I don't think he even realises exactly what Hinata is trying to say. Another thing is that if Kishimoto wants to make NH canon, then why did he give Sakura a panel? There was no need to for the story, and it didn't affect the plot. But, I'm new to this so whatever. That's just what I think.

[TouKen4Life3g]

well i pretty much liked FMA ending and not the old 1 but i mean brotherhood well i gess if that would happen in naruto something what you just said it would be awsome but lets keep our fingers X it still aint looking sunny for us

Yeah, of course. The brotherhood one is what I'm referring to. It's the only one that confirm the pairing. Don't worry, when the arc ends, we look back and see it in a different light.

When I first read the new chapter, I was scared that NH would become canon. But after thinking about it and consulting with my brother (Mathias OSX), I found that I didn't care any longer. I don't think that one event like this would change Naruto's mind after he fancied Sakura for so many years. Also, considering how dense Naruto is, I don't think he even realises exactly what Hinata is trying to say. Another thing is that if Kishimoto wants to make NH canon, then why did he give Sakura a panel? There was no need to for the story, and it didn't affect the plot. But, I'm new to this so whatever. That's just what I think.

I admit, the more I read, the more I'm ok with it being the development for her. If there's any more than that, romance wise, then it's too much asking for, but doubt it. Timing is bad.