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[BlueStarSaber]

Truth be told , they say that Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto that's why many don't care if Hinata doesn't end with Naruto they just want Sakura to suffer or at least that's the vibe i am catching from their arguments and posts . Another thing they degrade his love to ''fail crush'' and hoping that he has matured now and will come Hinata's way to return her love .

There are those who don't want him to be hanging on a chick that doesn't love him .

And again i see some of them want Hinata to be rewarded ...

Its not just about Hinata ,its the same pattern for Sakura

 

Ok their hate for Sakura has gone out of control if their are supporting those reasons to NH instead of NS and Hinata doesn't have to have Naruto to be rewarded.

 

I think we are just waiting for the right setup, if anything the Kushina stuff can come close to Minato because of what we know of Kushina's limited background and how its close to Sakura, well thats a key if anything relative can come up for now. Otherwise some connection could also come from Obito-Rin. The biggest stuff though we are waiting on is the Sasuke ordeal, basically how will 635 if anything develop off this and impact Sakura and Naruto? The Naruto vs. Sasuke fight is our ace in the hole, basically around that time expect Sakura to have everything in Naruto. I mean development is the most important thing, but we have a lot of additional evidence and potential just by Kushina due to her background, early interaction with Minato like Sakura to Naruto, and 631 (also helps that Naruto practically said he still loves her, I mean if he really thinks she is "more or less" his girlfriend then thats saying something). NS has everything set up, its laid out, kishi can exectute it anyway he feels, we just really need to see how Sasuke's trouble making impacts both Naruto and Sakura later on.

 

Hmm..... I wonder what Sasuke's next move is when it will come to team 7 since he see Naruto with all that power and he seems worried and afraid if you ask me. By the way Inforno I'm new here but I have seen what you have posted before mainly on fandoms and their demands as well as Zutara I have to ask is the information on this page http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Shipping is true or not?

 

Also getting back to my question if anyone wants to see Sakura punching Sasuke, let me add when and why?

[rocci]

I believe the next volume we will get NS moment but this time it's from naruto and it will silence the doubter of naruto's feeling.

[Psychox]

^ I personally think that the build up from 635 will impact Sakura more than Naruto and honestly i want her do act/do something very unexpected from the readers .

Some however believe that her words under the Samurai bridge will bring ''her'' Sasuke and happiness all at once . In all things that fake smile proves otherwise , if you ask me .
 

 

 

Ok their hate for Sakura has gone out of control if their are supporting those reasons to NH instead of NS and Hinata doesn't have to have Naruto to be rewarded.

Well , that is the ugly truth , just go to the anti Sakura anti NS on tumblr or w/e you'll begin to see .. There is that and a lot of them ship her with Sasuke when i read why , well ... its explainable , but not unexpected .

Edited by Psychox, 05 September 2013 - 12:14 PM.

[BlueStarSaber]

^ I personally think that the build up from 635 will impact Sakura more than Naruto and honestly i want her do act/do something very unexpected from the readers .

Some however believe that her words under the Samurai bridge will bring ''her'' Sasuke and happiness all at once . In all things that fake smile proves otherwise , if you ask me .

 

True I think we will see something from her that will involve Sasuke that will be a shocker to most of us mainly from the opposite pairing fans, anyway does anyone want to hear what she thinking of her feelings in general when it comes to Sasuke when the time comes?

[Psychox]

 

True I think we will see something from her that will involve Sasuke that will be a shocker to most of us mainly from the opposite pairing fans, anyway does anyone want to hear what she thinking of her feelings in general when it comes to Sasuke when the time comes?

Yes and no. Yes ,because of the opposition to prove once and for all that she isn't '' madly in love'' wish Sasuke  nor never was in fact , just because i'm sick and tired of that argument '' because she loves him '' .

No, for the reason its clear that to me at least that her ''love'' isn't real or ever existed in the first place . That imaginary Sasuke she thinks she loves is just ... meh.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

^ I personally think that the build up from 635 will impact Sakura more than Naruto and honestly i want her do act/do something very unexpected from the readers .

Some however believe that her words under the Samurai bridge will bring ''her'' Sasuke and happiness all at once . In all things that fake smile proves otherwise , if you ask me .
 

 

Well , that is the ugly truth , just go to the anti Sakura anti NS on tumblr or w/e you'll begin to see .. There is that and a lot of them ship her with Sasuke when i read why , well ... its explainable , but not unexpected .

I think she will do a great stuff for Naruto live saving his life or being a key support for him, unexpected because she might "prove" that she loves Naruto on the perfect moment to do that, i believe he's going to resolve this pairing issue shortly because after the Mina/kushi and Naru/Saku it got too much obvious.

It kinda revealed that even if you remove the buildup NaruSaku had it still be the pairing that has more chances to happen because it go obvious that NS is going to be canon due to character concept, Minato and Kushina were created to serve as a role model family of the manga for the hero, Kushina being created after Sakura already tell many things.

 

When i first saw Kushina i thought she was some kind of shy girl then a lot of chapters later it's revealed she was a tsundere.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 September 2013 - 12:49 PM.

[Superman333]

Truth be told , they say that Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto that's why many don't care if Hinata doesn't end with Naruto they just want Sakura to suffer or at least that's the vibe i am catching from their arguments and posts . Another thing they degrade his love to ''fail crush'' and hoping that he has matured now and will come Hinata's way to return her love .

There are those who don't want him to be hanging on a chick that doesn't love him .

And again i see some of them want Hinata to be rewarded ...

Its not just about Hinata ,its the same pattern for Sakura

well seeing that part of Sakura's character revolves around finding out what love is and who her the one is for her , then she won't suffer and she will end up with Naruto . And Naruto is the same in achieving his dreams I don't know if he personally made a goal to himself that Sakura will be his . But he wants her happiness so since Naruto is the source of her happiness then , he will be with her . 

Edited by Superman333, 05 September 2013 - 01:17 PM.

[Inferno180]

 

Ok their hate for Sakura has gone out of control if their are supporting those reasons to NH instead of NS and Hinata doesn't have to have Naruto to be rewarded.

 

 

Hmm..... I wonder what Sasuke's next move is when it will come to team 7 since he see Naruto with all that power and he seems worried and afraid if you ask me. By the way Inforno I'm new here but I have seen what you have posted before mainly on fandoms and their demands as well as Zutara I have to ask is the information on this page http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Shipping is true or not?

 

Also getting back to my question if anyone wants to see Sakura punching Sasuke, let me add when and why?

 

 

yeah the shipping stuff goes like that, just look up the main deal. but the aspect was that zutara was the biggest ship in ATLA and people thought it would come true but zutara never had that long ongoing development Aangtara had. Even after the end of season 2 people still thought that zuko and katara would make up but they only became friends. Basically people only assumed or brushed off the hints of aangtara and thought Zutara would come canon. I never took place in this shipping war but even I knew about it back in 07 and 08.

 

Even in the aftermath of canon with Aangtara, fans were outraged and wrote rants on why it should have happened depsite it just plain lacking the cohesive development it needed like Aangtara.

 

I honestly feel that NH and SS shippers should take a good look and I mean a real good look at the past with this pairing war. SS is more popular as is NH over NS in terms of those who ship it, but that means nothing even kishi most likely doesnt pay attention to the shipping stuff like the avatar creators actually did to a small degree. They messed with their fans like that on purpose, Kishi doesn't but the anime team does (to a small degree manily by fillers) and espcially the rock lee SD series does. Likewise NH thinks it will just happen because of well Hinata, but when so much more emphasis was put on Naruto's for Sakura and Sakura beocming more concerned for Naruto and espcially now starting to view Sasuke with distrust, well what are we to expect? 631 was just another hint. All its saying is hint hint, Sakura could become Naruto's girlfriend, maybe this girl like kushina is referring to something we saw in the confinement arc. Its that simple yet others brush it aside. Its like many still suspect Sasuke to be overcome with magical happy feelings all at once when there was never any real high moments for SS, rather it was only simple friendship, Sasuke never thought of Sakura as something more than a friend and then just well left and later tried to kill her twice and still hasn't apologized. People expect Sakura to never change. Hey if anything SS would just seem like a gaint middle finger to naruto falling back to the worst aspects of the characters we saw early on, it would literally be a pointless reversion that ruins the entire concept and trials of change and growth team 7s members had to indivually falling back to the dynamic we first saw. Sasuke accelced in everything while Naruto didn't, so why should Naruto go through so much trial in part because of Sakura, with her trying to help at those times because of this, only for her to stay loving Sasuke and/or somehow he falls for Sakura for no reason and just gets SS like that, you know no effort or emphasis at all, let Sasuke just win by default AGAIN LIKE HE ALWAYS DID, ALWAYS GETTING HIS WAY WITH NO F***s given to others like Naruto who actually had to try. See how dumb that is? Why should the heroes meirts be for nothing for the one he tries for? Naruto did a lot for Sakura but why should he not accomplish what he set out ot do for her and have some merit in the end? It would be like just a complete ripoff, just dumb after all the emphasis put on it for NS to be nothing but friendship. Its like why in all these years if Kishi made it to be just simple friendship, why so much and not enough on NH at least? NH already has very little yet that should just become canon because it exists? There is so much manga material showing hints and development of Naruto and Sakura growing closer, not to mention Kushinas foreshadow hinted an end pairing and 631 is the only progress so far that exists beyond the already established early interaction similarities Sakura and Kushina had with Naruto and Minato, Sakura=Kushina, only girl so far like her and people still don't listen. Its like just be aware of the clues and think logically, if all this stuff is there then maybe it exists for a good end reason like yes there is some NH stuff, but going by just plain screentime, what has more emphasis, focus, and importance to the plot underneath many other elements? NS does. NH just doesn't have that consistency and only appears in every 50 or so chapters often leaving stuff behind or going unused, even hinata herself had no importance in part 2 until the pain event and even then the confession to Naruto from her goes unaddressed even longer, only notion was when naruto had a short flashback, but for stuff like 615 being all canon, funny how there was an unusual panel of sakura in 615 and then came 631, with Naruto still being in love with Sakura and people act like "Huh wait doesn't he love Hinata now?" when there was never even any god damned notion of him suddenly turning to Hinata or actually being over Sakura, even a filler of him ep 235 saying he still loves her appears and nothing mangawise about his feelings towards Hinata have appeared at all, we still see that notion of him loving Sakura in 631 if he really thinks of her as his girlfriend and the whole Kushina thing as well. I mean just really, at this point with Naruto still loving Sakura and Sakura possibly changing away from Sasuke, what more evidence is needed to say simply, "perhaps NS is the end pairing, there is a good amount of notion for it." Yet many ignore it cause well, they simply hate Sakura. Kishi could have written 631 any other way, put it on Hinata, or left it for later, yet this is what we see. So what are we to go on? Assume NH is just magically filled in all at once when theres plenty of development for NS to state many answers for why it has potential and can come forward? A simple thing I can say for NS, the ending of team 7 is the oppsite of when we first met them: Naruto was a loser and had no talent only dreamed of hokage, being loved by Sakura, and acknowldged by Sasuke. Sakura was nothing special, only smart, hated Naruto, only had eyes for Sasuke, Sasuke was a revenge driven emo kid who hated everyone. So in the end shoundn't it be somehting like this: Naruto is hokage, acknowldged by Sasuke, a great ninja, and loved by Sakura, Sakura is a talented ninja, respects Sasuke, but loves Naruto (growing up mainly over the difference of ideal love she used to have for Sasuke towards the real thing like for Naruto possibily) and Sasuke is back in the village, has a better future, and calls team 7 his family. Can't anyone just see a simple opposite ending like that? its just full circle development, many stories and manga do this so why is it so hard for others to just imagine Sakura loving Naruto? Is it that hard? Apparently for others it is. But NS has evidence and many shippers ignore it yet when something like 631 came along, they raged and questioned why when we had the arguements and kishi laid the evidence out and still just ignoring a simple fact like Sakura=Kushina as the only girl compared so far, well if they ignore it and another NS moment of them going closer comes up, well What the hell are they going to expect? Its like a street sign saying warning sharp turn slow down and then someone goes too fast and the car goes off road, its like, well what the hell were they expecting? to turn easily going that fast? No of course not. Even 12 year olds this managa is made for can pick up the 631 relation so how is it so hard for the older audience? Hey when a future NS moment comes, if its like 631 again, then they will rage harder and question how kishi is ruining his manga depsite the clues of intent already being present. There are a few NS ones and ones that relate NS to MK yet others ignore it. It would be like Zutara again when they chose to ignore the Aangtara clues and then stand mouth a-gape when a moment comes that disproves stuff they assumed AGAIN.

[HauntedCake]

So if the infinite tsukuyomi is enguaged then maybe every member of alliance will be sent to an individual world where all their dreams come true (sakura -> sasuke???) Hinata - > Naruto???? Naruto - > sasuke return + getting sakura?

[Chatte]

So if the infinite tsukuyomi is enguaged then maybe every member of alliance will be sent to an individual world where all their dreams come true (sakura -> sasuke???) Hinata - > Naruto???? Naruto - > sasuke return + getting sakura?

That's why I am afraid some big kitten is gonna come if that happens...

[TouKen4Life3g]

So if the infinite tsukuyomi is enguaged then maybe every member of alliance will be sent to an individual world where all their dreams come true (sakura -> sasuke???) Hinata - > Naruto???? Naruto - > sasuke return + getting sakura?

I don't think it works that way. It works like the matrix if go by the movie. Naruto and Sakura are real to each other and don't have different journey. They have their wish, but still in one world. I guess one way you can do is make someone "married" like Sakura would ask herself, "Why my name is Uzumaki Sakura???" I don't think you can change emotions of a real being, just status. Madara shows that you can change age wise at the very least, as well as creating own system like no war, peace, working government or no government at all, and so on. So pretty much it's the matrix. Utopia that you're not aware of outside.

 

Edit: Just reread the chapter and it would seem many of you got the wrong idea. What I said is correct for the most part.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 05 September 2013 - 05:57 PM.

[Psychox]

If the AU version in the manga happens equivalent to RTN and its something like the movie ,oh no doubt we will be expecting a kitten storm.

[arian_rad]

That's why I am afraid some big sh*tstorm is gonna come if that happens...

Which is why it most likely won't, kishi wrote the plot to RTN mostly to show readers what the infinite tsukuyomi is all about and how it takes you to a world of what you want to be in your life. Doubt he would take the route to do it in the manga honestly specially since he stated Naruto is reaching it's climax. It would make things somewhat repetitive and uninteresting. However, I don't think people would go to their own world but they would all go TOGETHER into this AU world.

Edited by arian_rad, 05 September 2013 - 06:42 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

One thing people may have missed is that it's up to Obito or Madara to give it a go. Going back to the old chapter, it was said that there's one host and that host will be the one to determined how the world would operate. Madara shows Obito his world but it's blank because he hasn't written one. He wants everyone to be in one world.

That said what makes you think Obito would give a crap for love of others. He's only in for himself. Hell, he offered Naruto to be Hokage in the world Obito was creating and he's the on that dreamt it too. All he wants is Rin. The point is if you want this or that, Obito is the man to ask. Again, he most likely won't even listen. In the movie, he did it to make Naruto weak since it's something he doesn't have: parental love. When the time was right, he will be off-guard and bye bye to Kuruma. Of course it backfired.

So yeah, now I see why Madara is worried. Because remember, Obito is now on his own, which he can do whatever he wants, which he can make Madara...well, his female dog let's just say that. Pretty much, their "partnership" is already broken so now, it's now or never Madara.

[Liu bie]

That's why I am afraid some big sh*tstorm is gonna come if that happens...

NaruSaku is in dangerous waters.

 

Edward Kenway: we are outnumber.

 

Blackbeard: It is not the first time Kenway and it won't be the last.

(sorry i have say it AC4 Black Flag is coming soon.).

[BlueStarSaber]

 

 

yeah the shipping stuff goes like that, just look up the main deal. but the aspect was that zutara was the biggest ship in ATLA and people thought it would come true but zutara never had that long ongoing development Aangtara had. Even after the end of season 2 people still thought that zuko and katara would make up but they only became friends. Basically people only assumed or brushed off the hints of aangtara and thought Zutara would come canon. I never took place in this shipping war but even I knew about it back in 07 and 08.

 

Even in the aftermath of canon with Aangtara, fans were outraged and wrote rants on why it should have happened depsite it just plain lacking the cohesive development it needed like Aangtara.

 

I honestly feel that NH and SS shippers should take a good look and I mean a real good look at the past with this pairing war. SS is more popular as is NH over NS in terms of those who ship it, but that means nothing even kishi most likely doesnt pay attention to the shipping stuff like the avatar creators actually did to a small degree. They messed with their fans like that on purpose, Kishi doesn't but the anime team does (to a small degree manily by fillers) and espcially the rock lee SD series does. Likewise NH thinks it will just happen because of well Hinata, but when so much more emphasis was put on Naruto's for Sakura and Sakura beocming more concerned for Naruto and espcially now starting to view Sasuke with distrust, well what are we to expect? 631 was just another hint. All its saying is hint hint, Sakura could become Naruto's girlfriend, maybe this girl like kushina is referring to something we saw in the confinement arc. Its that simple yet others brush it aside. Its like many still suspect Sasuke to be overcome with magical happy feelings all at once when there was never any real high moments for SS, rather it was only simple friendship, Sasuke never thought of Sakura as something more than a friend and then just well left and later tried to kill her twice and still hasn't apologized. People expect Sakura to never change. Hey if anything SS would just seem like a gaint middle finger to naruto falling back to the worst aspects of the characters we saw early on, it would literally be a pointless reversion that ruins the entire concept and trials of change and growth team 7s members had to indivually falling back to the dynamic we first saw. Sasuke accelced in everything while Naruto didn't, so why should Naruto go through so much trial in part because of Sakura, with her trying to help at those times because of this, only for her to stay loving Sasuke and/or somehow he falls for Sakura for no reason and just gets SS like that, you know no effort or emphasis at all, let Sasuke just win by default AGAIN LIKE HE ALWAYS DID, ALWAYS GETTING HIS WAY WITH NO F***s given to others like Naruto who actually had to try. See how dumb that is? Why should the heroes meirts be for nothing for the one he tries for? Naruto did a lot for Sakura but why should he not accomplish what he set out ot do for her and have some merit in the end? It would be like just a complete ripoff, just dumb after all the emphasis put on it for NS to be nothing but friendship. Its like why in all these years if Kishi made it to be just simple friendship, why so much and not enough on NH at least? NH already has very little yet that should just become canon because it exists? There is so much manga material showing hints and development of Naruto and Sakura growing closer, not to mention Kushinas foreshadow hinted an end pairing and 631 is the only progress so far that exists beyond the already established early interaction similarities Sakura and Kushina had with Naruto and Minato, Sakura=Kushina, only girl so far like her and people still don't listen. Its like just be aware of the clues and think logically, if all this stuff is there then maybe it exists for a good end reason like yes there is some NH stuff, but going by just plain screentime, what has more emphasis, focus, and importance to the plot underneath many other elements? NS does. NH just doesn't have that consistency and only appears in every 50 or so chapters often leaving stuff behind or going unused, even hinata herself had no importance in part 2 until the pain event and even then the confession to Naruto from her goes unaddressed even longer, only notion was when naruto had a short flashback, but for stuff like 615 being all canon, funny how there was an unusual panel of sakura in 615 and then came 631, with Naruto still being in love with Sakura and people act like "Huh wait doesn't he love Hinata now?" when there was never even any god damned notion of him suddenly turning to Hinata or actually being over Sakura, even a filler of him ep 235 saying he still loves her appears and nothing mangawise about his feelings towards Hinata have appeared at all, we still see that notion of him loving Sakura in 631 if he really thinks of her as his girlfriend and the whole Kushina thing as well. I mean just really, at this point with Naruto still loving Sakura and Sakura possibly changing away from Sasuke, what more evidence is needed to say simply, "perhaps NS is the end pairing, there is a good amount of notion for it." Yet many ignore it cause well, they simply hate Sakura. Kishi could have written 631 any other way, put it on Hinata, or left it for later, yet this is what we see. So what are we to go on? Assume NH is just magically filled in all at once when theres plenty of development for NS to state many answers for why it has potential and can come forward? A simple thing I can say for NS, the ending of team 7 is the oppsite of when we first met them: Naruto was a loser and had no talent only dreamed of hokage, being loved by Sakura, and acknowldged by Sasuke. Sakura was nothing special, only smart, hated Naruto, only had eyes for Sasuke, Sasuke was a revenge driven emo kid who hated everyone. So in the end shoundn't it be somehting like this: Naruto is hokage, acknowldged by Sasuke, a great ninja, and loved by Sakura, Sakura is a talented ninja, respects Sasuke, but loves Naruto (growing up mainly over the difference of ideal love she used to have for Sasuke towards the real thing like for Naruto possibily) and Sasuke is back in the village, has a better future, and calls team 7 his family. Can't anyone just see a simple opposite ending like that? its just full circle development, many stories and manga do this so why is it so hard for others to just imagine Sakura loving Naruto? Is it that hard? Apparently for others it is. But NS has evidence and many shippers ignore it yet when something like 631 came along, they raged and questioned why when we had the arguements and kishi laid the evidence out and still just ignoring a simple fact like Sakura=Kushina as the only girl compared so far, well if they ignore it and another NS moment of them going closer comes up, well What the hell are they going to expect? Its like a street sign saying warning sharp turn slow down and then someone goes too fast and the car goes off road, its like, well what the hell were they expecting? to turn easily going that fast? No of course not. Even 12 year olds this managa is made for can pick up the 631 relation so how is it so hard for the older audience? Hey when a future NS moment comes, if its like 631 again, then they will rage harder and question how kishi is ruining his manga depsite the clues of intent already being present. There are a few NS ones and ones that relate NS to MK yet others ignore it. It would be like Zutara again when they chose to ignore the Aangtara clues and then stand mouth a-gape when a moment comes that disproves stuff they assumed AGAIN.

 

Whoa thanks for asking my question, you sure know how to answer. I must admit I am quite surprised that Zutara was the popular  when I first saw your topics about it, I never got into the fandom of Avatar TLA but I was a Katang supporter from watching the show and I could tell Katang was gonna happen thanks to episode 14 I think the one with the fortune-teller. Though I didn't really like that episode still I could tell that Kataang was most likely to happen from their, the only reason I new zutara was even a thing was when I saw some fanart of them I and thought it as crack pairing (though I didn't really know all the shipping things were called back then).

 

Sadly I wish I could of said the same with NS at first but since I watched the anime I thought NH and SS would be canon cause of the fillers, Biased wiki's and YouTube Revivers, though part of me always thought NS might be canon but I didn't know how at the time. It wasn't until I actually decided to join in the fandom on the Naruto base were the hate for Sakura and over worship for Hinata put me for her character and NH completely. Then I looked at what you NS fans put mainly Chatte I decided to look it up more and then I definitely saw that development and parallels to make it happen I became a supporter.

 

Boy it's kind of sad when a 12 year olds can pick up something that should be obvious and someone older can't. Even when I don't get something I look it up, otherwise I would be here posting.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Whoa thanks for asking my question, you sure know how to answer. I must admit I am quite surprised that Zutara was the popular  when I first saw your topics about it, I never got into the fandom of Avatar TLA but I was a Katang supporter from watching the show and I could tell Katang was gonna happen thanks to episode 14 I think the one with the fortune-teller. Though I didn't really like that episode still I could tell that Kataang was most likely to happen from their, the only reason I new zutara was even a thing was when I saw some fanart of them I and thought it as crack pairing (though I didn't really know all the shipping things were called back then).
 
Sadly I wish I could of said the same with NS at first but since I watched the anime I thought NH and SS would be canon cause of the fillers, Biased wiki's and YouTube Revivers, though part of me always thought NS might be canon but I didn't know how at the time. It wasn't until I actually decided to join in the fandom on the Naruto base were the hate for Sakura and over worship for Hinata put me for her character and NH completely. Then I looked at what you NS fans put mainly Chatte I decided to look it up more and then I definitely saw that development and parallels to make it happen I became a supporter.
 
Boy it's kind of sad when a 12 year olds can pick up something that should be obvious and someone older can't. Even when I don't get something I look it up, otherwise I would be here posting.

Welcome to my world. Well not 12 year old part. Or how I saw SS and NH at first but mainly other things. The on thing I didn't like that episode you mentioned is it almost said that Kataara must be with Aang because he's that "Great Bender". So it's like match making in the work. Luckily there were developments so whatever.

[Paptala]

Hasn't the Infinite Tsukuyomi always been refered to as just a mass illusion in the manga?  I thought that the "transports you into an alternate world/dimension" was just from the movie only (not to mention that Obito said that it was an imperfect version of the jutsu as well in the movie).

 

So I always thought everyone would just be in their own illusions, not interacting with anyone else's fantasy - because if everyone shares the same fantasy world, there's no way everyone is going to get what they want because so many people's desires conflict with one another.

 

Either way, if the jutsu is actually cast, this is how I could potentially see it going down:

 

We've kind of agreed that Naruto and Bee would be immune because of their Jinchuuriki status yes?  And that Sasuke would be immune because of his sharingan, and the edo tensei hokages would be similarly immune because they're not actually alive?

 

If that was actually the case, I could see Kishimoto focusing on Sakura's illusion, and using that as an opportunity to fully explore her feelings (since her character development is so intertwined with the development of her feelings).  It would start with Sasuke loving her, and then Sakura eventually realizing that this isn't what she really wants, that the one who really makes her happy now, the one who she really wants by her side is Naruto - this would be sort of similar to the girl character (Tsuyu I think her name was) from the Gutsy Ninja novel realizing Naruto is the one that makes her happy.

 

Cue Sakura breaking free of the illusion upon her realizing this and helping to either break the illusion for the rest of the alliance or fight alongside her team members in order to break the illusion on the alliance.  The only problem with this is is that it kind of shoves the entire rest of the alliance into non-action where Kishimoto has indicated through Shikamaru that they were all waiting for an opportunity to jump in and play their part.

 

We’ll see how it goes – honestly, I think the more likely option that we’re going to see is the jutsu being interrupted before it can be fully cast (most probably by Madara’s trump card) and then the fighting continues as it has been.

 

In regards to the seemingly inexplicable logic of pairing fans, I think this particular concept from psychology explains it perfectly:

“...we have a tendency to look for information that will confirm our prior beliefs and assumptions and to ignore or downplay information that does not conform to those beliefs and assumptions...the human tendency to seek out information that confirms what is already believed is known as the confirmation bias...”

 

“...rather than calling the belief into question, apparently contrary evidence is interpreted to appear consistent with the belief. This willingness to apply a different post hoc (after-the-fact) explanation to reconcile observations with belief leads to an unparsimonious patchwork quilt of explanations that lack generality, fail to produce testable predictions about future findings, and often require that one assume the common occurrence of highly unlikely events.”

Edited by Paptala, 05 September 2013 - 07:16 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@Paptala: well if you go back to the chapter, I forgot what number, Madara said that there's one host and that's the caster. Madara partnered up with Obito, so they can achieve it and most likely or not, Madara would grant Obito to be with Rin. But now, Obito got the power and he's on his own, which is why Madara is worried. He can make Madara his lap dog for all we know, so yeah, it's one world.

[BlueStarSaber]

Welcome to my world. Well not 12 year old part. Or how I saw SS and NH at first but mainly other things. The on thing I didn't like that episode you mentioned is it almost said that Kataara must be with Aang because he's that "Great Bender". So it's like match making in the work. Luckily there were developments so whatever.

 

Oh yeah I forgot they had that lol, I also could tell further with episodes of them in that love cave (man Sokka is the king of funny), Avatar Day were aang got advice from prisoners, and the guru episode and of course season 3 if it weren't that obvious then I don't know what is.