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#7481 Darth Krypt

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 24 2011, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read that as well and was shocked at their ignorance. Maybe they just don't know what filler is?


Exactly. Most NH fans are anime watchers. There's rarely a NH fan who only reads the manga. If you think about it, the way the anime potrayed NH, it looks like they aimed for people to support the couple. So blame the source itself?

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Dec 24 2011, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't, but when they do, they will be like "oh, no wonder we never had a chance". tongue.gif


I doubt so. People rarely change their beliefs once they found out they were wrong. Its psychologically difficult.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Dec 24 2011, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't, but when they do, they will be like "oh, no wonder we never had a chance". tongue.gif

I can see it now...

Them: Naruto said she'd make a good wife!
Me: Filler.
Them: What does that even mean?
Me: It didn't happen in the manga, where the real story is going on.
Them: ...what?
Me: Yeah.
Them: ...uh... Well, Hinata put up an epic fight agajnst Pein protecting him, and he saw it all!
Me: A big pile of filler. In the manga, she was one-hit-KOed.
Them: He protected her against bullies!
Me: Filler.
Them: ...uh... T-the waterfall scene!
Me: Very inappropriate filler.
Them: ...crap...
Me: Anything else?
Them: ...NH is still the best!
Me: I rest my case.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 24 2011, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can see it now...

Them: Naruto said she'd make a good wife!
Me: Filler.
Them: What does that even mean?
Me: It didn't happen in the manga, where the real story is going on.
Them: ...what?
Me: Yeah.
Them: ...uh... Well, Hinata put up an epic fight agajnst Pein protecting him, and he saw it all!
Me: A big pile of filler. In the manga, she was one-hit-KOed.
Them: He protected her against bullies!
Me: Filler.
Them: ...uh... T-the waterfall scene!
Me: Very inappropriate filler.
Them: ...crap...
Me: Anything else?
Them: ...NH is still the best!
Me: I rest my case.


LOL so true.
 
 
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 24 2011, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can see it now...

Them: Naruto said she'd make a good wife!
Me: Filler.
Them: What does that even mean?
Me: It didn't happen in the manga, where the real story is going on.
Them: ...what?
Me: Yeah.
Them: ...uh... Well, Hinata put up an epic fight agajnst Pein protecting him, and he saw it all!
Me: A big pile of filler. In the manga, she was one-hit-KOed.
Them: He protected her against bullies!
Me: Filler.
Them: ...uh... T-the waterfall scene!
Me: Very inappropriate filler.
Them: ...crap...
Me: Anything else?
Them: ...NH is still the best!
Me: I rest my case.

If they were mature, I see this happening, but they would probably just bash Sakura instead... dry.gif

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 24 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can see it now...

Them: Naruto said she'd make a good wife!
Me: Filler.
Them: What does that even mean?
Me: It didn't happen in the manga, where the real story is going on.
Them: ...what?
Me: Yeah.
Them: ...uh... Well, Hinata put up an epic fight agajnst Pein protecting him, and he saw it all!
Me: A big pile of filler. In the manga, she was one-hit-KOed.
Them: He protected her against bullies!
Me: Filler.
Them: ...uh... T-the waterfall scene!
Me: Very inappropriate filler.
Them: ...crap...
Me: Anything else?
Them: ...NH is still the best!
Me: I rest my case.


Just say Filler aren't worth S***. cool.gif we acknowledge it even with that Cute Shippuden episode 235.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:06 PM

235 might be filler but it gives us the obvious general idea that Naruto STILL and obviously loves Sakura even after her supposed 'fake' confession.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Dec 24 2011, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha one guy commented on that vid, "If Naruto dates/married/gf Sakura, I'm gonna stop watching naruto =/". That comment got 90 likes and is the top comment.


I'm probably too late to say this, but whatever, if that person stops watching because of NaruSaku, then he/she just doesn't really care about the main plot, in the first place, which obviously is most people's main reason for watching/reading in the first place. The ending pairing is just 2nd to that.

I mean do we watch/read because of pairings, for the main reason? No. I just watch/read just to see this one bloke tries to achieve everything in his mind, that seems unattainable, at the start of the series, but somehow at this stage of the series, all of those things he wanted achieve (becoming Hokage, making Sakura really happy, this part doesn't mean pairing stuff, its just something he wants to do) is becoming really close to being at its endpoint.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Dec 24 2011, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
235 might be filler but it gives us the obvious general idea that Naruto STILL and obviously loves Sakura even after her supposed 'fake' confession.

Exactly. It's following the lines and general idea of canon material.

Edited by Fenris, 24 December 2011 - 06:49 PM.

 
 
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:43 PM

i was talking in an portuguese forums , there are a lot of NH fans and seven of them says
Hinata looks like Kushina ( obvously should be sakura) i dont know , but i cant find anything in hinata that makes her looks like kushina .

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Dec 24 2011, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i was talking in an portuguese forums , there are a lot of NH fans and seven of them says
Hinata looks like Kushina ( obvously should be sakura) i dont know , but i cant find anything in hinata that makes her looks like kushina .


Boy, I don't know how you can sway them to think differently, but, you know, at least, there's the part where the moment Naruto first met Kushina, in 498?, on how he assumed that she was the Kyuubi's true form, and therefore acting like his usual idiotic self, that Kushina clobbered him in a manner, that Sakura would do if Naruto made a comment like that to Sakura.

Besides, you compare Naruto to Minato and Sakura to Kushina, and you can see the similarities in their appearance (and those Nh can't give that crap about the long hair bit, because, uhhh, Sakura had long hair at one point) and we can definitely assume, for sure, that Kushina would love Naruto to be with someone that has the characteristics that Kushina possesses, like Sakura.

Edited by Anguyen92, 24 December 2011 - 10:02 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:16 PM

yeah but.. they say that hinata has more similarities with kushina than sakura

they know what filler is and they say that NS is dead..

Edited by Thomas Narusaku, 24 December 2011 - 10:17 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:24 PM

^^ Hmmmm, well then, then, at this point, there's really no arguing with them, and if they say why you support NS being canon, when they say its dead, then just say "I just want to for various reasons. You wouldn't want me to say to not support Nh because of the same reasons, would you?"

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Dec 24 2011, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah but.. they say that hinata has more similarities with kushina than sakura

they know what filler is and they say that NS is dead..



They say that a lot on Youtube, I completely destroyed this guy in a debate regarding who Kushina is more like. What I fail to get is If Kishimoto was making Kushina like Hinata, then why did he make her violent. Hinata ain't violent , This was a direct link to Sakura. Also many say " Kushina told Naruto not to pick the weird one and since Kushina was weird that would mean that Naruto should not pick the normal one, since Normal would be weird to Kushina", So I pointed out that Kushina never called herself weird, And Since Kushina is a women that fusses over her appearance and takes great pride in herself, to her anyone who was not like her would see a little weird. So that part has no link to Hinata or Sakura, However Since HInata is the lesser Kushina double. Then Hinata's chances go way down.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:27 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Dec 24 2011, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
235 might be filler but it gives us the obvious general idea that Naruto STILL and obviously loves Sakura even after her supposed 'fake' confession.


It does, but can't rely on that though,pal. Cause obviously We can not use filler evidence if we laugh our heads off when NH fans use filler evidence. we have to be fair on that playing field, neither side refers to it smile.gif

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Dec 24 2011, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm probably too late to say this, but whatever, if that person stops watching because of NaruSaku, then he/she just doesn't really care about the main plot, in the first place, which obviously is most people's main reason for watching/reading in the first place. The ending pairing is just 2nd to that.

I mean do we watch/read because of pairings, for the main reason? No. I just watch/read just to see this one bloke tries to achieve everything in his mind, that seems unattainable, at the start of the series, but somehow at this stage of the series, all of those things he wanted achieve (becoming Hokage, making Sakura really happy, this part doesn't mean pairing stuff, its just something he wants to do) is becoming really close to being at its endpoint.


HUH, shouldn't call himself a fan then dry.gif Though I admit I might see myself doing the same thing if NS didn't happen either, BUT my case is justified because Kishimoto actually developed that pairing and they literally looked like they were MADE for each other, then he squashes it. right?

QUOTE (Fenris @ Dec 24 2011, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. It's following the lines and general idea of canon material.


THEY don't see it that way of course, -__- they just want their PRECIOUS GODDESS to "get laid" by her dream man like a s** toy rolleyes.gif besides only when WE get a NS filler moment do they get the "fillers don't count" slap in the face facepalm.png

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Dec 24 2011, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i was talking in an portuguese forums , there are a lot of NH fans and seven of them says
Hinata looks like Kushina ( obvously should be sakura) i dont know , but i cant find anything in hinata that makes her looks like kushina .


They have no NH evidence so they're making one up. To each their own I guess.....

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 December 2011 - 03:32 PM.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Dec 26 2011, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It does, but can't rely on that though,pal. Cause obviously We can not use filler evidence if we laugh our heads off when NH fans use filler evidence. we have to be fair on that playing field, neither side refers to it smile.gif

We wouldn't really need to use 235 as evidence anyways. When you think about it [pfft you should know rolleyes.gif], Naruto's speech is stuff we've heard before in the manga, which is canon evidence, we can always look back on those chapters that specifically include those parts. 235 is basically canon stuff repeated in a filler episode, so we wouldn't really need to use it.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Hey I was on a random Youtube video just a few days ago, and according to one user, in the official translation of the Naruto chapter Kushina said " Don't choose the first girl that comes your way "

Is this true.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (God of All Shinobi @ Dec 26 2011, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey I was on a random Youtube video just a few days ago, and according to one user, in the official translation of the Naruto chapter Kushina said " Don't choose the first girl that comes your way "

Is this true.

She said: "Don't pick a weird one, find someone like your mom."
 
 
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (God of All Shinobi @ Dec 26 2011, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey I was on a random Youtube video just a few days ago, and according to one user, in the official translation of the Naruto chapter Kushina said " Don't choose the first girl that comes your way "

Is this true.


Hmmm, I remember that, but I think it was a mistranslation or something. I can't really remember, it was discussed when the chapter came out.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Dec 26 2011, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, I remember that, but I think it was a mistranslation or something. I can't really remember, it was discussed when the chapter came out.


Who really knows if it was a mistranslation or not? I guess, in order, to really verify it is to have Kushina pop up in Naruto's mind, again, and somehow, build up the conversation to the point where Sakura's name get mentioned, and its verified, and we'll see if Kushina approves of her or not (I'm sure she will, but I have that "I just can't count my chickens until they hatch" mentality, so yeah).

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:42 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Dec 26 2011, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who really knows if it was a mistranslation or not? I guess, in order, to really verify it is to have Kushina pop up in Naruto's mind, again, and somehow, build up the conversation to the point where Sakura's name get mentioned, and its verified, and we'll see if Kushina approves of her or not (I'm sure she will, but I have that "I just can't count my chickens until they hatch" mentality, so yeah).

Even if it was a mistranslation it points to NS, anyway. Hinata was the first girl to come his way.
 
 
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