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[Question22]

645 is out! wohoho this just gave me a hope for a new NS moment

[Branden]

 

I'm not even sure why i am responding to you anymore ..... I gave you a reasonable explanation why i posted this  , because the tension level was rising and it felt utterly unlikely , but there you go again attacking me for no reason  yet again .

Now , tell me how am i hacking something ? Because i don't know the first thing about it nor what  mainframe(s) is/are  .

You seem angry. That's unfortunate, since I wasn't being serious in either of those posts. But since you've already chosen to respond so passionately the damage has already been done. So be it then, let this end on an awkward note for everyone.

[arian_rad]

Jesus what happened to this thread.....Can we please debate NaruSaku again?

[Branden]

Jesus what happened to this thread.....Can we please debate NaruSaku again?

I welcome this advice, the only problem is that I can't think of anything to discuss other than the recent chapter, and there's already a thread for that.

 

If there's anything on your mind that you would like to discuss you are more than welcome to discuss it with us here.

[Superman333]

He took a picture of the manga. Because of the angle of the camara, the picture can look "fatter" or distorted. A scan would not have this effect, thus the dissimilarities in both pictures 

uhm i took the picture from my phone and sent it to my email thats why it look like that  . Thats the way my camera is . Yall tryna find all excuses to downplay my God given skill huh .? I'ma put it to rest once i upload the video . 

Edited by Superman333, 04 September 2013 - 08:56 AM.

[Superman333]

lols its so funny , Its like everybody want my head because my drawing is too damn good to believe it .? Lols Its only one thang to do ... and thats to prove yall wrong . Just cause yall can't do it don't mean I can't do it lols .  God blessed me with God Like Skill thats the only reason why its so perfect . lols maybe I should have put mistakes in it just to please all the rest of the artists and spectators . lols hell nawl . 

Edited by Superman333, 04 September 2013 - 08:57 AM.

[Superman333]

I'm sorry Superman333, but I agree with LadyGT, this is a picture/scan of a manga page.  

gone head agree with her I hope you just prepared to apologize when prove yall wrong . God damn the world is such a damn ugly place when it comes down to somebody doin they thang and do it perfect at that . I ain't The Lord or Nothing but I put hard damn work into this piece this has got to be my best work ever and I brought it here to show yall what i did and this is what I get all this hate .? Its all good though I just hope you will be ready to apologize to me when I shove the accusations down yall throat and I'm not just talking to you Tsubaki I'm talking to everybody on here that is doubting me . 

[Psychox]

You seem angry. That's unfortunate, since I wasn't being serious in either of those posts. But since you've already chosen to respond so passionately the damage has already been done. So be it then, let this end on an awkward note for everyone.

Nah, but it sounded like your intentions were different , maybe I'm a little jumpy that's all . ^^ But we are heavily going off topic so ...

OT: What will Sasuke do next?

[Superman333]

Nah, but it sounded like your intentions were different , maybe I'm a little jumpy that's all . ^^ But we are heavily going off topic so ...

OT: What will Sasuke do next?

from the looks of it it seemed like he was getting jealous of Naruto's immense chakra control . It seemed to bother him that Naruto also improved . 

Edited by Superman333, 04 September 2013 - 09:01 AM.

[rocci]

Will obirin = NS parallel will happen in this volume or in the next volume or it will never happen?

[Psychox]

Will obirin = NS parallel will happen in this volume or in the next volume or it will never happen?

Obito thinking about Rin and a mass of flashbacks would lead to somewhere , if Obito lunches the Tsukoyami something is bound to happen .

[TouKen4Life3g]

Will obirin = NS parallel will happen in this volume or in the next volume or it will never happen?

Next volume as I said before. It will happen. Two chapters are too short for a farewell to a major villain and plus, the action is once again race against time. Lastly, Obito still hasn't changed, because look at him, still wanting that illusion. Time for lessons!

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 04 September 2013 - 09:28 AM.

[Chatte]

when i post my video up of me doing it all over again will i finally be innocent or will another accusation rise up against me .?

 

Cause obviously because I drew it perfectly and inked it right thats a problem for other artists . I guess I stole they dreams because my art is so similar to Kishi when I actually draw and put time and love into it .  Since its identical thats how i know I did my thang . 

Look, no need for you to get this arrogant yourself too. Be a humble person and if you are, then everyone will look at you with other eyes.
But you're contributing to this whole fiasco with your attitude, no offense.
Until you're going to prove your innocence or whatnot, why don't you talk on the subject? As in, NaruSaku? No offense but this is a debate thread for a pairing, not for art. Of course we do appreciate art and whatnot regarding our pairing but rather than derailing the topic, try to keep it on, ne?

Edited by Chatte, 04 September 2013 - 09:37 AM.

[LadyGT]

lols I will post proof its no problem with me , all your efforts like I said just proves to me how good a artist I am .

No Superman333, it just shows how little or nothing of an artist you truly are, because not a single painter, musician, composer and etc. would remotely auto proclaim themselves such.
They are aware to know that that decision is not theirs, but, it's in fact , the audience who does that.
An artist is defined an artist when people recognize or see a potential in his/her art. That "potential" is shown in the form of ideas, concepts, creativity, method, style, effort etc...

As part of the audience of your artwork, I can say that you definitely put all your efforts in taking a simple picture of the original manga page and posting it here. And in denying and lying, of course.

Make the video, do a livestream, do whatever you want. You want to prove that you are able to redraw a scan from the manga like that? Fantastic, go ahead and DO IT this time, but I expect you to draw it identical with the same inking style and screen tones.

I'm pretty sure you will handle everything in just one night.


Sorry guys I won't reply any further on this issue, I'll get back on topic

I'm sure we will get an ObiRin/NaruSaku parallel in few chapters. Looks like Obito's plan is moving really fast! I can't help but think about RTN here.

Edited by LadyGT, 04 September 2013 - 10:27 AM.

[Question22]

What you guys think of chapter 645? :c

[LadyGT]

^What's wrong with chapter 645?

[Branden]

What you guys think of chapter 645? :c

There's already a thread for this : http://www.narusaku....showtopic=13218

[Canadian_DJ]

@Canadian_DJ Naruto's thank you to Hinata was sincere, the problem is that all the NH fans exaggerated this moment beyond belief. They believe that this moment was a sign that Naruto loves her or that he will view her in a romantic light or whatever. When in reality it's just a sign of friendship, nothing more nothing less.

I didnt deny it for being sincere. He thanked her and neji for being by his side, whats so special?

[Inferno180]

What I find funny about how some nh fans are leaping on the minato comparing naruto to Kushina event is how they say it destroys ns mk relations and at the same time try to use it as proof of comparing 615 or are unaware how again the arguments they make can go back to bite them.

They said this event relates nh to mk and destroyed the ns mk arguments, so they try to argue that this event is like nh despite no similarities of hinata to minato even exist nor to Kushina. So unlike ns which has naruto compared to both parents and sakura to Kushina, they are using an arguement that has no proof yet of comparison to try and say this event destroyed ns?

You cannot disprove something with something else that has no connecting evidence, you can say naruto is like both parents and sakura is like Kushina due to 631 and her backstory, it connected because of 631 with minato to sakura.

Also they apparently don't realize how the naruto is like Kushina can bite them in the ass, yes naruto is like both parents but hinata is still not like any. Some still are still saying how naruto resembles one parent and how hinata is somehow like Kushina or even harder to believe minato yet there has never been any connection. Some even start again to use the whole comparing of scenes like this current one and 615 and use it as evidence yet they said ours with absolute closer relations don't count? So this with 615 counts but not the ones we try to use like naruto saving sakura like minato did to Kushina? That the similar backgrounds mean nothing either? Ugh just more double standard tight pairing goggle stuff as usual. Even saying ns is now just Kushina Kushina, oh god.

Truth is this and many don't realize it:

The nh crowd has been scrambled since 631, did 645 cause such a fallout? No. Many nh views had naruto as one or the other parent like hinata. So still who are they trying to pin as the one naruto is like and hinata? Naruto is like both parents but fans need to understand this, ns still works if naruto is like both parents and sakura is like Kushina, nh fans arguing this don't realize the folly of their statement, if naruto is like both parents and hinata is somehow like minato or Kushina, then the same freaking thing can apply to naruto and sakura.

They say whoever naruto is like more and hinata is like more, well naruto possess traits from both his parents, the opposite effect would always be present yet these people saying this never realize that. If anything now we can say naruto is canonically like both parents and sakura is still like Kushina therefore narusaku still has reasons and flexibility associated with minato Kushina. Even again when was hinata ever compared to any of the parents? 631 at least connected and opened potential between naruto and sakura relating to their parents. When has hinata ever been compared to either parent? Not to mention now some fans are using similar scenes as evidence for nh like in this current chapter? When they were saying we were wrong for doing that in ns-mk rescues scenes and so on like kushinas flashback? Dear god it's just one string of unfounded arguments followed double standards. If people want to argue pairings better make sure these claims have good reasons or that logic isn't able to be turned on them, cause when it comes to claiming who is like narutos parents, only naruto has both of their traits and sakura is the only one compared to Kushina, even as minor as it is, with the backstory it's still been connected in manga and has a load of more evidence over any similarities hinata has to either parent which has yet to be proved.

As it stands:
Naruto is like both parents, his minato traits and Kushina traits can make him work with anyone sakura or hinata by any logic if people want to claim this stuff of him being like either parent and the girl as the other. Otherwise Kushina Kushina no longer applies.

Sakura is still the only girl compared to Kushina canonically, kushinas backstory, foreshadow, and minatos input from 631 are still up and active. Kushina said find a girl like her, minato made that comparison sakura a girl like Kushina. This is still loads of content and evidence in which naruto and sakura relations have been connected to minato and Kushina ones, not everything is to be taken word for word, stuff like the foreshadow and backstory of Kushina and how she first thought of minato, that's stuff for the reader to figure out. If people still cannot see the similarity or ignore how Kushina first viewed minato compared to say chapter 3 in this manga, that's just denial.

Hinata has yet to have any comparison to either parents of naruto, even then the chances of any similarities are slim especially given what was seen before hand and considerably still presents many obstacles for it like naruto still loving sakura, sakura starting to not trust Sasuke, 631 and all the past development, hinatas infrequency of screentime and development, nh goi g unaddressed for so long, just still present many issues for it, not to mention character development story structure, etc. nh still has many issues to contend with.

Sakura can be argued like Kushina because that event has been connected even as minor as it was to some, it's still the only girl to Kushina relation shown, what else do we have to go on? Nothing hinata related has come up ever towards any parent, even the the whole concept of this scene with minato and naruto in 645 can be said to be like when hinata and Kushina were kidnapped by the cloud ninja, yet it's a similar scene without any real connection. See the difference? Ns at least has a connection with those scenes we have argued in the past, 631 made the connection, rather it stands to reason 631 still left an open rift for future ns development, I mean is the forehead compliment still seem like an impossibility to others? Rather sakura changing to love him? Apparently some still think so. If anything minatos scene this chapter was about naruto inheriting kushinas determination.

Biggest point of all, this was nothing pairing related, despite any claims people make, shapes and setups don't effect development. The scenes are similar but paralleled scenes are only simple references and don't cause anything for development, even then where does hinata somehow fit into this like people are saying? Not that it had anything ns related either but for minato to see Kushina in both naruto and sakura, well that didn't change much on their mentalities now did it? Naruto still loves sakura so even as a Kushina Kushina, well screw the arguement then, otherwise it still makes sense for narutos minato ness working with Sakura's kushinaness.

Nh is still just having no parallels, you cannot make an arguement when there's no basis for it, this scene is not nh related or in model at all. The set up can be seen like 615 but it's not the same. Ns can at least argue we have an established connection for mk to ns, naruto has been compared to minato plenty of times too by jiriaya, Kakashi, tsunade, ay, and others. We can at east argue our scenes have a connected basis now because of 631. Nh cannot. Kushina having a freaking background like sakura and connected by minato as a girl like her, the only one so far to Kushina is still enough. 631 was not overshadowed or overtaken/undermined as people are trying to say.

This all goes back to the start of this post, you cannot make an argument or claim when your own reasoning is flawed or has too many holes in it that can be countered or even have the same thing used against you. Ns just has all the evidence, I don't know why some fans are leaping on this comparison but hinata still has nothing related towards either parent, I mean if 631 really would be threatened then there would be an actual comparison of hinata to Kushina or somehow minato but I doubt that's going to happen it hasn't happened yet. Especially given who Kushina has a similar background too, one scene like this isn't going to destroy 631 as much as fans claim. Especially when that scene has nothing related directly to nh, especially with a character not compared in anyway.

Naruto is like both parents but the minato one is still seen as dominant because of how frequently we see it, and who naruto himself aspires to become like. Not to mention minato has shown plenty of personality ones too like naruto.

Sakura is like Kushina, canonically compared in 631, has an easy to tell backstory as similar to compare to sakura, not the exact same but still enough that it renders a good amount of evidence. Kushinas find a girl like her is for all reasons sakura right now, 631 simply said hint hint this girl sakura may become narutos girlfriend a simple continuation of kushinas foreshadow.

Hinata isn't like any parent if narutos, no comparison so far.

Naruto practically showed still loves sakura being thrilled or considering her his girlfriend. sakura can start to turn away for sasuke for what 635 did. It's just character development plain and simple.

Any Arguements of ns as Kushina Kushina are void because if hinata is like any parent then what's to stop us from saying nh is a minato minato or another Kushina Kushina? Arguements like this can flow both ways, but these arguments either exist for both or do not exist at all. You cannot have it your way and the opposite for the other. Even then narutos traits from both parents are still don't do anything to mentality for characters, he still loves sakura now doesn't he. Claims like Ns as a kushina Kushina are pointless because real world logic need not apply for the mentality of characters or claiming how their relation would be,otherwise obito wouldn't be as crazy as ip he became. The only logic for the naruto universe is the logic of the story structure and what's allowed, comparisons like this don't effect it at all. Even the the same claim would have it so narutos minato side can work with the Kushina side of sakura. Either ns and nh are open to these Arguements or the arguements are invalid and pointless under these conditions.

Ns has a manga connection to mk, 631 stands as proof of that by kushinas backstory and the early interaction of them. There's a lot of potential for it to come in the future as the foreshadow is still in effect, it's not gone or changed. Ns still has a lot in common with mk despite what 645 displayed. There is an entire manga with development, hinting, and growth for ns, the parallels are just a side bonus. They still exist. All I have said is simple, if the reasons people use to claim one arguement is no longer valid (ns like mk in this case as they tried) they better be sure the reasons are good because the whole scene comparisons as trying to boost nh, no it just doesn't because hinata is still not compared to any parent, nh has no confirmed relations to mk, and many of the same arguements can be turned on nh itself. Ns still has plenty if evidence and potential, many things still point to it, one scene even then could not undermine the similarities of ns to mk no matter how its argued. Especially when nh itself is using arguments which don't exist against ns ones that so, sakura still is like Kushina, naruto is like both parents but minato is still seen as the dominant one and rather who naruto himself aspires to be like. If naruto himself wants to be like minato as he has shown before, then that's basically him saying he is going to become more like minato and which is basically him saying his minato side is bigger than the Kushina side. Remember no one determines who you are, only you do, so if naruto is aspiring to be like minato the. Naruto is predominantly minato aside from the more frequent comparisons of naruto to minato. So naruto is like minato and sakura is like Kushina, end of story. Well that was a lot text, share this to any part of the Internet you feel. I'm sick of the double standard flawed arguement stuff, pep,e really need to think of their Arguements before saying them. Because like in this case, as I found flawed reasons in a claim, peole need to remember, the worst thing in any arguement is not being countered, it's how your own arguement t can be flawed and turned against you and this is essentially what can happened with ns arguement this chapter trying to say ns is no longer like mk or that nh somehow is now or that 631 was undermined. No just no it wasn't, ns is still on top and has a load of evidence and potential. This scene had rather nothing to do with hinata, it was just made related to her by fan preception. Ns at least has clues and connections towards mk because of back stories and 631, we actually have a valid case for arguing similar scenes because certain connections have been made, nh cannot do this by default epically because those parallels they claim exist still have not proven in any way that they do, when in fact thy still have not. Ns remains strong with potential and still has correlation with mk, this is a fact.

[bthug]

One problem, Kushina's hair is red not pink. That's why her nickname in the Academy was Tomato.

Tomato TOmato

 

Also  I hope he does launch the infinite tuskeyomi (spell check, to lazy to check) so that we could have a few chapters similar to movie 6 and hopefully some really passionate NS moments.

 

Anyone else think Minato recebt comparison of Naruto to Kushina could give new hope to NH because they think Hinata is like minato and naruto is like Kushina