Yes, but lack of better wording on my end. Basically, plot hole like Kaguya's plan and maybe even past is missing to explain, as bad writing would be Kakashi managed to get full Susanoo in a matter of seconds. That's what I mean. Example like those though. I guess you can say the series could have little plot holes, but the writing itself has a lot of bad ones.Isn't plot hole part of bad writing?
If I should choose, I will choose plot hole over bad writing.
Since plot hole could be address.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 01:28 PM
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 01:32 PM
Question:
Would you rather have: plot hole or bad writing?
Well a plot hole is bad writing. But I know that's not what you meant and I understood your question.
So to answer your question, I would rather have a plot hole than bad writing. The best solution of course is neither.
Edited by Nostradamus, 27 May 2015 - 01:34 PM.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 01:46 PM
Question:
Would you rather have: plot hole or bad writing?
They tend to go hand in hand, a bad writer usually has gaping big plot holes.
Usually I'd go for plot holes over Bad writing but I've also found that if the plot hole is too big I am seriously put off, and will rage much more than bad writing, because if the writing is bad I've usually already given up on the story.
Bad Writing can be accredited to lack of talent and practice can improve your skill, plot holes is just lack of planning and lazy writing.
Though above all I really dispise the WTF endings, it's been my biggest issue recently. When an ending does not coincide with the content of the story I find that unforgivable.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 01:57 PM
@harry
You must hate gainax lol.
You must hate gainax lol.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 02:01 PM
Why? Because of the endings?@harry
You must hate gainax lol.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 02:41 PM
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You must hate gainax lol.
I'm guessing you are talking about the original Evangelion ending? I've not watched the series, but I do know there were some series backlash to the end, and this was when the internet was in it's infancy, and social media was AIM and Yahoo email. Didn't they redo the ending? I think the original was due to restriction in time or something, or they ran out of money.
But I probably would have been part of the mob if I did watch it....at the moment I'm more painstakingly waiting for the movies to get released. As well as the Blu-ray release for 3.03 in the UK.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:38 PM
Spoilers:
http://nishibee.tumb...00-5-the-future
an SS person is like "Sasuke is gonna get punched!" like... okay you keep believing that Sakura would stand up to sasuke lol. it never ceases to amaze me how they bash a certain pairing yet seem to want SS to be just like it.
http://nishibee.tumb...00-5-the-future
an SS person is like "Sasuke is gonna get punched!" like... okay you keep believing that Sakura would stand up to sasuke lol. it never ceases to amaze me how they bash a certain pairing yet seem to want SS to be just like it.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:46 PM
Some pages of chapter 5 are out : http://imgur.com/a/7otxV
Lol, he really didn't recognize his own daugher first.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:46 PM
Sasuke did something bad or something? Sorry, I didn't look because eh, not my worth time.Spoilers:
http://nishibee.tumb...00-5-the-future
an SS person is like "Sasuke is gonna get punched!" like... okay you keep believing that Sakura would stand up to sasuke lol. it never ceases to amaze me how they bash a certain pairing yet seem to want SS to be just like it.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:02 PM
Wow so my funny dialog from a couple of days ago was sort of true. ChoCholina really said "You're my father" to Sasuke.
I'm calling it right right now Sasuke made that kid with Karin then killed her (after the baby was born of course) because that's how Uchiha's show love, then took the baby and left her to Sakura.
Edited by Nostradamus, 27 May 2015 - 05:02 PM.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:02 PM
Well, now that Sarada meetup with Sasuke and Sakura is finally awake, we should get some answers about Sarada's birth in this chapter.
This will either be a victory or defeat for the SS fans
This will either be a victory or defeat for the SS fans
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:20 PM
Some pages of chapter 5 are out : http://imgur.com/a/7otxV
LOL The Sauce missed Salad's heart and failed to show her his true love well kitten me that's a first time he misses to pierce a girl's heart 
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Well, now that Sarada meetup with Sasuke and Sakura is finally awake, we should get some answers about Sarada's birth in this chapter.
This will either be a victory or defeat for the SS fans
The victory is long gone there's no saving grace in here only rabid fanatics will see it like that no matter what 
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:21 PM
Please Kishi at least do us this favor and mess up SS even more.
I wish I could have the powers of Superman so I could save protect the world under God's will.
Always have the spirit and the guts to never ever give up no matter what.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:21 PM
No matter what happens now, SS is damaged for me. But no worry Olaya, Kishi will retcon that and SS gonna have a happy ending ... Pfff..
Pretty much.
I guarantee that in the movie NH and SS, for all the problems they seem to be having now, will be retconned into being perfect, happy families with no problems whatsoever.
Just you watch, it's going to happen.
LOL The Sauce missed Salad's heart and failed to show her his true love well kitten me that's a first time he misses to pierce a girl's heart
The victory is long gone there's no saving grace in here only rabid fanatics will see it like that no matter what
I agree, but they will take anything they can get at this point.
The SS fandom has continued to make excuses for Sasuke's behavior and I see no reason why that will change after this.
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:25 PM
Pretty much.
I guarantee that in the movie NH and SS, for all the problems they seem to be having now, will be retconned into being perfect, happy families with no problems whatsoever.
Just you watch, it's going to happen.
I agree, but they will take anything they can get at this point.
The SS fandom has continued to make excuses for Sasuke's behavior and I see no reason why that will change after this.
I know that nothing new its why they're the epitome of illogical fu*kery and everything that's wrong with this fandom it makes me sick 
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:27 PM
In case anyone wants to have the translation for the chapter:
http://www.narutofor...ad.php?t=527462
Translation Progress starts here:
Title: The Future
Page 1:
Splash--> Sarada finally finds her father, but....
Kyah!
Papa!
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Page 2 :
Sasuke: It's....
Sasuke: It's you, Sarada?
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Hm....
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Sasuke: I see...
Mmm....
Sarada: As for me, I knew right away that you were my father.
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Page 3:
Naruto: So you were here?
Chou-Chou: Sarada, You're really doing whatever you want (=Fix by OldMonkey for this slang~ --> "You were seriously doing as you please"
Naruto: Sorry Sasuke for arriving a bit late.
Sasuke: Naruto! You owe me an explanation!
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Page 4:
Sasuke: Why did you come here with these children?
Naruto: I didn't plan on it when I left, but....
Sarada: I wanted to meet you!
Chou-Chou: I know! As for this great man who's so alluring....could he be my father!?
Sarada: I knew that the Hokage was leaving to meet with you, and so...I followed him. It was absolutely necessary that I ask you a question
Sasuke: About what?
Sarada: Hm.. it's about the topic of my mother....Page 5:
Sarada: Is she really my mother?
Shizune: She had that old photo from the Hawk era. I'm wondering if she didn't go find her father to ask him.
Sakura: ... That girl is impossible.
Sakura: In this case, we just have to go to that tower.
Shizune: From what Shikamaru said to us, it's probably the way she took.Page 6:
Chocho: What?
Chocho: What are you talking about?
Sasuke: Did something happen that I don't know?
Sarada: You're... wondering what happened?
Sarada: Oh come on, you never came back home! Why did you abandon Mom? You even forgot your daughter's face, and that's all it does to you?!Last page:
Sarada: Who is this girl next to you wearing the same glasses as me?! You honestly believe that I can ask this of mom?!
Chocho: …?
Naruto: …
Sarada: Mom never speaks on the subject, and you, you are never there!! Anyway, how could I believe you?! My life is a nightmare!!
Sarada: …
Sarada: Plus I never know where you are nor what you are doing!!
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 05:30 PM
In case anyone wants to have the translation for the chapter:
Now die 
The missing line from Sarada.
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