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#7421 Superman333

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:18 AM

Ahah you got me there for a moment xD

haha  It took me so long to do it . . I wish my scanner worked so it could be in clearer quality though it look all foggy . 


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:31 AM

haha  It took me so long to do it . . I wish my scanner worked so it could be in clearer quality though it look all foggy . 

Yeah taking a picture to the real page of the manga really takes a while....

C'mon pal, there is no need to keep this act up, that's not your drawing.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:03 AM

just for you Lady Gt I will put a video up on You Tube of me drawing it all over again and then I will put the link right in your inbox . 

Damn it you got me Heated . Now for that I'm going to draw more panels from Naruto and put them up on here just for you and just to prove you wrong plus I will make a video of me redrawing the NS Hug . You could sayits fake but what you gone say when I keep drawing panel after panel and it keeps on looking as Good as Kishi's work I mean damn don't I get some credit especially from a great artist like yourself .?


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:15 AM

 

nice tumblr post.

 

But I wonder what is Kishi planning.

 

Sometimes we focus on the pairings to much but we forget  that it's a manga with a story that isn't all about pairing. Now Narusaku had a pretty strong parallel the JiraTsu one but ever since Minakushi came into play it was a constant war. I remember Naruhina didn't one but when Minakushi it all transformed into parallels parallels. There are some Naruhinas probably a decent part of them that thing that this parallels are ridiculous or that the others failed because there wasn't a Hinata in the story. And also their the eternal  Naruto is Kushina so he needs to find someone like his father.

 

But never mind what NH thinks I'm wondering about why did Kishi find it necessary to have Minakushi look so similar to Narusaku and if hopefully Narusaku will have it's place in the plot (at least this war/juubi revival arc if not the rest of it)

 

 

Part of storytelling, Naruto inherited his father's mind in finding a love interest.

 

 

NS has taken all the parallels hasn't it?


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:26 AM

just for you Lady Gt I will put a video up on You Tube of me drawing it all over again and then I will put the link right in your inbox . 
Damn it you got me Heated . Now for that I'm going to draw more panels from Naruto and put them up on here just for you and just to prove you wrong plus I will make a video of me redrawing the NS Hug . You could sayits fake but what you gone say when I keep drawing panel after panel and it keeps on looking as Good as Kishi's work I mean damn don't I get some credit especially from a great artist like yourself .?


Edit: oh looks like you edited your original comment... It doesn't matter, here's my reply to it


Bashing won't resolve things, it just make it worse.

I'll be honest with you:
No, your drawings can't look like Kishimoto's, at least, not yet. And I'll tell you why: you haven't practice it enough to reach the level of lineworks/proportions/inking/texuring to make it look like that in just one night.
Your drawing skills are good but you still haven't mastered them enough.
Your draft is completely different from this one. Yours shows incoherence with proportions: the characters all look skewed, which ruins the balance magically "achieved" in the final product. The inking look nothing like the one you have on your other drawings and you were able to reproduce all the textures applied in the original manga....
All in just one night.

Odd, really odd.

What does it good to you to lie about it you are asking me?
How should I know? I really thought you weren't serious about it but meh, looks like you are.

Enjoy.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 02:42 AM

Edit: oh looks like you edited your original comment... It doesn't matter, here's my reply to it


Bashing won't resolve things, it just make it worse.

I'll be honest with you:
No, your drawings can't look like Kishimoto's, at least, not yet. And I'll tell you why: you haven't practice it enough to reach the level of lineworks/proportions/inking/texuring to make it look like that in just one night.
Your drawing skills are good but you still haven't mastered them enough.
Your draft is completely different from this one. Yours shows incoherence with proportions: the characters all look skewed, which ruins the balance magically "achieved" in the final product. The inking look nothing like the one you have on your other drawings and you were able to reproduce all the textures applied in the original manga....
All in just one night.

Odd, really odd.

What does it good to you to lie about it you are asking me?
I should I know? I really thought you weren't serious about it but meh, looks like you are.

Enjoy.

what .? I have been drawing all my life non stop . How can you tell me what i practiced enough .? The sexy jutsu drawing was done a few years ago when I first picked up inking and I decied to put it up I drew it with a skinny sharpie , The Rin drawing I did a while ago too , I got better . With this one I took my time I inked it with a G-Pen , I used pencil and paper ain't no reason for me to lie bout my drawings man . That won't do me no good at all lols . Thats why its called a draft lols , I already said it wasn't perfect it was a very fast sketch it wasn't meant to be perfect but to get into the feel of the drawing . Thats what I do before I do the actual piece , you can think what you want I took my time on this and regardless of what you say I feel damn good at that drawing I accomplished . But like i said I will put up my proof I will draw it all over again ON VIDEO just for you too see it . I have no reason to lie about my drawings it wouldn't hurt anyone but me lols . Like I said don't underestimate my REAL drawings for my sketches because when i draw for real its a whole different ball game lols .  and it took me more than a night it took almost more than half the day too . Just because you can't work as fast , don't try to downplay my stuff because it takes you longer . 


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:17 AM

I'm sorry Superman333, but I agree with LadyGT, this is a picture/scan of a manga page.  


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:42 AM

Just because you can't work as fast , don't try to downplay my stuff because it takes you longer .

Oh you are right about that, taking photos from real scans is way faster.

Your drawing

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The final product of "your drawing"

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Real scan

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We have a saying in Italian and it pretty much says:

"The joke is funny when it lasts short."

Sorry Superman333, you tried but as I told you before, I don't like when people try to fool me and pretend to be right.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:11 AM

Lady, it might be an optical illusion on my part, either that or I am having a stroke. But the drawing doesn't look at all like his finished work...


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:33 AM

@LadyGT and @Superman333

 

Let me interfere before this get out of control. I made a line comparison between both pictures and here's the result:

 

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Despite the similarities the position of the bodies are different in each image.

 

So either Superman333 is telling the truth or he's some photoshop expert.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:36 AM

I'll take it a step further LadyGT. I stacked the pics on top of each other...
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I couldn't even line them up... Too big in some areas, too small in others. I don't care how good you are in inking... that is a dramatic change.
He draws really well, but he really shouldn't claim the manga drawings as his own... I am sure if he keeps at it however he can mimick kishi's drawings spot on


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

@LadyGT and @Superman333

 

Let me interfere before this get out of control. I made a line comparison between both pictures and here's the result:

 

2hmefpw.png

 

Despite the similarities the position of the bodies are different in each image.

 

So either Superman333 is telling the truth or he's some photoshop expert.

He took a picture of the manga. Because of the angle of the camara, the picture can look "fatter" or distorted. A scan would not have this effect, thus the dissimilarities in both pictures 


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:43 AM

I'll take it a step further LadyGT. I stacked the pics on top of each other...
TuFsiNY.png

I couldn't even line them up... Too big in some areas, too small in others. I don't care how good you are in inking... that is a dramatic change.
He draws really well, but he really shouldn't claim the manga drawings as his own... I am sure if he keeps at it however he can mimick kishi's drawings spot on

 

Isn't one of those pictures you stacked up the draft? He did say he the first draft was just to get a feel of the picture and after that he would start to work on the picture proper from scratch.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:56 AM

@LadyGT and @Superman333
 
Let me interfere before this get out of control. I made a line comparison between both pictures and here's the result:
 
2hmefpw.png
 
Despite the similarities the position of the bodies are different in each image.
 
So either Superman333 is telling the truth or he's some photoshop expert.


Redragon if you draw a line on Kakashi eye then do the same on the other one to see if they are similiar, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

Plus it's also about the camera angle but anyway it doesn't change the fact that it's taken from the manga.

I'm surprised to see that some of you can't tell the difference, maybe it's just me.
 
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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:56 AM

are we talking about whether those picture are the same or not?

 

cause they are. 

one is just a little zoomed in and cropped (the edges are cropped)

 

but they are both the same.

 

as an artist myself it is near impossible to get every single little detail the same. 

unless you're using a light tracer box.....and even then it's hard!

 

so unless I see a vid, those 2 pictures were made by kishi :)


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 04:57 AM

I don't see why any of this really matters.

 

Superman333 claimed he would upload video proof of his drawings. If you're really stubborn then just assume he is lying until he uploads that. Until then at least give him time to prove it. Who knows, maybe he's just a legend at copying things? It's not impossible, just highly unlikely.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:00 AM



He took a picture of the manga. Because of the angle of the camara, the picture can look "fatter" or distorted. A scan would not have this effect, thus the dissimilarities in both pictures 

 

I tried taking a picture like that to confirm, but it still gives me the same line cross. Apologies for the flash.

 

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:01 AM

I don't see why any of this really matters.

 

Superman333 claimed he would upload video proof of his drawings. If you're really stubborn then just assume he is lying until he uploads that. Until then at least give him time to prove it. Who knows, maybe he's just a legend at copying things? It's not impossible, just highly unlikely.

 

sorry I have a beef with artist who copy work.

 

I encountered one once......and it was annoying.

 

but if he can give a video then I'll believe him and even apologize ^_^


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:02 AM

Redragon if you draw a line on Kakashi eye then do the same on the other one to see if they are similiar, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

Plus it's also about the camera angle but anyway it doesn't change the fact that it's taken from the manga.

I'm surprised to see that some of you can't tell the difference, maybe it's just me.

 

What other one? I put both pictures there.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:08 AM

I'll take it a step further LadyGT. I stacked the pics on top of each other...
TuFsiNY.png

I couldn't even line them up... Too big in some areas, too small in others. I don't care how good you are in inking... that is a dramatic change.
He draws really well, but he really shouldn't claim the manga drawings as his own... I am sure if he keeps at it however he can mimick kishi's drawings spot on

it was a rough draft , i drew it on two different sheets of paper thats why its CALLED ROUGH DRAFT AND PERFECT COPY LOLS . The first one was not perfect I made sure and I stated that lols . 


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