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[Sakura Blossoms]

Haha, Obama is finally actually talking tough instead of his usual passive-aggressiveness, and telling Republicans to:

Go for it

Though I'm not sure if those were the exact right words he should have used, as he comes of a just a tad bit condescending, but at least he's ready to talk and act tough on the whole matter.

[Dreamer]

Haha, Obama is finally actually talking tough instead of his usual passive-aggressiveness, and telling Republicans to:

Go for it

Though I'm not sure if those were the exact right words he should have used, as he comes of a just a tad bit condescending, but at least he's ready to talk and act tough on the whole matter.

I'm afraid that's only going to add more fuel to the fire between the two parties.

[Dark]

Senate Bill 6 passed in Florida.

Because it makes total sense to completely destroy the already crippled education system. Great idea guys.

[Nee-sama]

Senate Bill 6 passed in Florida.

Because it makes total sense to completely destroy the already crippled education system. Great idea guys.

Yeah, wow that sucks. Cuz standardized test scores that have nothing to do with how well a teacher reaches his/her students is a great way to determine their salary.
That puts a lot of responsibility on kids shoulder's who, for the most part, don't give a crap. Not that kids are bad, but they are more likely thinking about high school drama or family problems, rather than worrying about their teacher's cut in pay if they do bad on some standardized test they hate having to take in the first place.

[Sakura Blossoms]

And let's chalk up one more 'government takeover' from the Obama Administration. Honestly I can understand why so many Republicans are running scared from this Administration, even though a lot of their fears tend to be quite a bit misplaced. Obama and the Democratic-majority government *does* seem to be taking over everything little by little:

http://www.npr.org/t...p...ft=1&f=1001

[Dreamer]

And let's chalk up one more 'government takeover' from the Obama Administration. Honestly I can understand why so many Republicans are running scared from this Administration, even though a lot of their fears tend to be quite a bit misplaced. Obama and the Democratic-majority government *does* seem to be taking over everything little by little:

http://www.npr.org/t...p...ft=1&f=1001

It makes sense that everything else is taxed and it's no surprise that student government loans would go up as well. Man this country is falling apart.


Does anyone know what Obama was talking about with Russia's President this morning? I think it has something to do with Nukes.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Well, Obama seems to have gotten his professional swagger back on:

http://news.yahoo.co...sianuclearobama

[ciardha]

http://www.blackagen...ver-fake-reform

[Dreamer]

Well, Obama seems to have gotten his professional swagger back on:

http://news.yahoo.co...sianuclearobama

I go ahead and tell ya right now just because he passed a health care bill and Russia make a treaty with him (probably pretended) doesn't mean he's going to have any influence on Iran. Iran has been through several UN negotiations and they continue to build the facilities (satellite photos) and all diplomacy is doing is buying them more time.

http://www.blackagen...ver-fake-reform

That makes since, the pharmaceutical companies didn't complain much about the health care reform.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 March 2010 - 04:08 AM.

[Sakura Blossoms]

For those who want more info on how the new healthcare bill will affect you, here is an interesting top 10 list of the ways it will:

http://finance.yahoo...mily-love_money

[Pite]

I am highly disappointed with the Tea Party. Sarah Pailin? Really? That woman doesn't know what she's talking about. What the heck. European style healthcare?! Go to Europe woman and learn. Obama being a weak sauce? Really? He sent more drone made strikes against terrorists during his first year than Bush did his whole time in office. He used guns and bricks to fix the mess left over by Bush.

[Sakura Blossoms]

I am highly disappointed with the Tea Party. Sarah Pailin? Really? That woman doesn't know what she's talking about. What the heck. European style healthcare?! Go to Europe woman and learn. Obama being a weak sauce? Really? He sent more drone made strikes against terrorists during his first year than Bush did his whole time in office. He used guns and bricks to fix the mess left over by Bush.

Well what do you expect from the so-called 'Tea Party' and Sarah Palin, honestly.

[Pite]

I was hoping for them to be more like Dan Carlin... I expected more of them...

[Nee-sama]

I was hoping for them to be more like Dan Carlin... I expected more of them...

You shouldn't. Those are people who would shout racial slurs and other insults, leave death threats on answering machines, and shoot out windows in congressmen homes. They fully believe that the government is being taken over by socialist progressives aiming to take down our current capitalist republic. Rather than finding intelligent ways to make their opinions known, they find the most extreme and obnoxious ways to stand out because otherwise the media wouldn't give them the time of day. Comments like the one from Palin only encourage their childish behavior. My own father is just a plane ride away from joining them...

[Insurrection]

That's simply not true. The Health Care Summit is a case in point. They explained their opposition extensively. They have offered alterntives. The trope about them just saying no and offering nothing is pure garbage.

I didn't say that they the standard party of no, that's putting words into my mouth. I said that the more stupidity they spout over coherent thought the more likely it will be picked up by the fight happy mainstream media. They have terrible spokemen and current leadership. I've watched C-SPAN the night of the vote and before that during the summit, they may have offered alternatives but their primary goal was to oppose the bill.

That's a good one. Seriously, it is. A significant number of liberals still haven't gotten over 2000 election or George W. Bush, and yet, here they are.

I don't know who this guy is. But if he is a Democrat or liberal, then it is the dispensing of advice from someone who obviously doesn't have your best interest at heart. I'd be like Barack Obama asking for re-election advice from Karl Rove.

Same thing if he supported the bill.

Rothenberg says he's not affiliated with either party, but just another pundit to me.

[socermania2]

http://www.msnbc.msn...cs-white_house/

I think he's finally growing some balls.

[Nate River]

You shouldn't. Those are people who would shout racial slurs and other insults, leave death threats on answering machines, and shoot out windows in congressmen homes. They fully believe that the government is being taken over by socialist progressives aiming to take down our current capitalist republic. Rather than finding intelligent ways to make their opinions known, they find the most extreme and obnoxious ways to stand out because otherwise the media wouldn't give them the time of day. Comments like the one from Palin only encourage their childish behavior. My own father is just a plane ride away from joining them...

Actually, the media is happy to give them the time of day, so long as they can use the opportunity to discredit them and portray them as extremists. Like constantly calling them "teabaggers," a slang term for a certain type of gay sex.

As far as the slurs...hasn't Andrew Breitbart offered a $10,000 for proof that those were actually shouted at James Clyburn? I haven't looked, but has anybody be able to do that yet?

Or the claim where rocks were allegedly thrown through his office window (report in a prominent Seattle newspaper), which turned out to be a complete lie. Or the coffin incident, which was warped into a death threat that never was? Or the spitting incident, which was similarly warped? And Stupak seems fine highlighting the threats he got after he sold out, but the media and many others seems to have forgotten the threats he was getting from the other side because he was refusing the vote for the thing.

Of course, I don't recall them making the same kind of noise about the shots that were fired at Eric Cantor's office (in fact no one in this thread has mentioned it all) nor the death threats that have been aimed at Republicans. Or the incident last August when SEUI members beat the crap out of a black man at a town hall meeting? But they did give plenty of play to they person who damaged that NY Congressman's office...that is until they found out she was a liberal. And who can forget them trying to painting the Austin man as a Tea Partier despite his post referring to the Communist Manifesto and damning capitalism in his final post. Same with Amy Bishop.

That said, for those who have issued threats...I don't condone them. Violence isn't the answer. And issue such threats do nothing, its morally wrong and it only gives ammunition to a opportunist media looking for it. I'm not a part of the movement and I don't give a crap about Palin. But I'm a little tired at the selective memory of a lot people and the holier than thou attitude by a number of pundits and politicians who are either too blind or dishonest to look in a mirror.

Republicans getting chastised for incitement by a bunch of people who cheered when Alan Grayson said Republicans wanted people to die? I might need ObamaCare sooner than I thought, because I'm about to die laughing.

I didn't say that they the standard party of no, that's putting words into my mouth. I said that the more stupidity they spout over coherent thought the more likely it will be picked up by the fight happy mainstream media. They have terrible spokemen and current leadership. I've watched C-SPAN the night of the vote and before that during the summit, they may have offered alternatives but their primary goal was to oppose the bill.

I though Paul Ryan did a great job shredding the economics and faulty assumptions underlying the CBO score. Besides if the Dems spokesmen were so great, why do so many people hate the bill?

Obviously, that night the Democrats were voting on their own bill. What would have been the point focusing primarily on proposals that weren't currently up for a vote?

They don't have the votes to pass their own proposals and the Democratic leadership has never been genuine about working with them or considering their proposals. Well, except for a few token gestures.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Of course, I don't recall them making the same kind of noise about the shots that were fired at Eric Cantor's office (in fact no one in this thread has mentioned it all) nor the death threats that have been aimed at Republicans. Or the incident last August when SEUI members beat the crap out of a black man at a town hall meeting? But they did give plenty of play to they person who damaged that NY Congressman's office...that is until they found out she was a liberal. And who can forget them trying to painting the Austin man as a Tea Partier despite his post referring to the Communist Manifesto and damning capitalism in his final post. Same with Amy Bishop.

Well, you're right. I've never heard of any of this before reported by the media.

[Nate River]

Bipartisanship.


http://www.huffingto...y_n_515746.html (Liberal blog)

http://hotair.com/ar...rst-movie-ever/ (Conservative Blog).

[Sakura Blossoms]

Bipartisanship.


http://www.huffingto...y_n_515746.html (Liberal blog)

http://hotair.com/ar...rst-movie-ever/ (Conservative Blog).

Hehehe, for once they all agree XD