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#721 Rathgar

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Posted 24 December 2004 - 07:26 PM

hear hear... seriously tho, i've searched in the net for fanfics with NaruSaku and it's like searching for a needle in a LARGE haystack.. wink.gif

The most i've seen are S****S***, NaruH****, NaruS***. Sheesh... dry.gif
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Posted 24 December 2004 - 09:35 PM

S***S*** - Sasuke realizes one day from out of nowhere that he's in love with Sakura. Sakura is still completely obsessed with Sasuke like she is in chapter 3 and continuously beats up Naruto who's become a horny letcher trying to get in Sakura's pants. Sasuke comes and sweeps Sakura into his arms and they live happily ever after.

Either that or they just push Naruto with Hinata and then throw Naruto away so that way the story can concentrate on Sasuke and Sakura. There is some Naruto bashing in the story and 9 times out of 10 Itachi usually appears and kidnaps Sakura for some unknown reason. Usually because he's fallen in love with her too. Or it'll be Neji or Gaara doing that. Oh and then Sasuke will save Sakura without even trying and THEN Sasuke and Sakura will live happily ever after

Oh and then there are the ones where they get drunk and Sakura get's pregnant by Sasuke thus enforcing S***S***.

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Posted 24 December 2004 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (AfterDeath @ Dec 24 2004, 02:35 PM)
*steps back away from the chaos* Maybe Ill just read wut you guys have to say tongue.gif I have nothing to say, because I dont read fanfics. Ive read maybe 2? yes that was not a type. thats 2. tongue.gif


I suggest reading the works listed under the NaruSaku FanFic listing. That's a good start. If you think my opinion is worth listening to, then I suggest you go to my FanFiction.net profile and read through my favorite authors list. That's some pretty solid work.

There are a few others that I could list. Yondaime-dono puts out good stuff, Red Crow is a must, Mizerable if you feel like turning off your logic center and reading something well written. red.junko is funny in an over-the-top sort of way. Girl-chama is brilliant, if she ever reposts 'East of the Sun.'

Thank you Alphabet, your praise has gone straight to my ego for processing. I never read 'Puppet in Pink,' because it looked awful just from the summary. Again, I can read 'Flower of Konoha' because I know I'm a better author than she is, and I must know how badly she butchers Itachi's characterization. I've read some very popular fanfics and found them to be fundamentally lacking in the plot or logic departments.
Examples include:
Logic-Eimii's 'Suriien' (not sure of the spelling)
Plot-The SOC Puppet's 'Bloodlines'
Logic and Plot-Mizerable's 'Wasted Years'
Everything-DameWren's 'Two Halves' (I think this is the title. The one where she teaches them to use chakra to clean the house.)

The first three are written so well that you don't really notice it until you sit down and think about it. I completely disagree wth Eimii on almost every point she makes about genjutsu, and I have stopped reading it because I don't approve of 'God-Mode'ing out Sakura. I think The SOC Puppet has completely missed the mark on his characterizations and I cannot stand Mizerable's ending for 'Wasted Years' because it's so implausible and the author heavily favors Sasuke. But they are worth reading because so few fics are written to this level of quality that we cannot afford to discard them. Not 'Two Halves' because it's another 'Learn from an uber-powered Self-Insert/Original Character' fic, and you know how much I hate those.

Next time, I'll take a shot at Mizerable's 'Wasted Years' but right now I have to wrap presents.

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Oh and then there are the ones where they get drunk and Sakura get's pregnant by Sasuke thus enforcing S***S***.

::maniacal laughter::

And I seem to get worse at wrapping presents with every passing year.
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Posted 27 December 2004 - 07:42 AM

Yeah I really hate those ones. I mean c'mon Sasuike will never fall in love and if he does he'll definately go for Ino or Hinata... or TenTen

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 10:42 PM

Ok, maybe it was obvious for some people but i was reading ALOT of Shinji/Asuka fics recently and i dont know why lol.

Well today someone in the fics post posted this fic that is suppose to going to be either NaruSaku or N***H*** ..Here..

Well anyways, that chapter somehow maded me think that it like the whole Shinji/Asuka situation lol. Strange heh? The girl rejects the guy but at the end, she regrets it? umm wonder if that could happen in the real show. Well either way, we will see.
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Posted 27 December 2004 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Faucon @ Dec 27 2004, 04:42 PM)
Ok, maybe it was obvious for some people but i was reading ALOT of Shinji/Asuka fics recently and i dont know why lol.

Well today someone in the fics post posted this fic that is suppose to going to be either NaruSaku or N***H*** ..Here..

Well anyways, that chapter somehow maded me think that it like the whole Shinji/Asuka situation lol. Strange heh? The girl rejects the guy but at the end, she regrets it? umm wonder if that could happen in the real show. Well either way, we will see.

yup i can see than in the fic, looks to me like its goin narusaku tho, since she said that "Hinata knew she could never win his heart" or sumthin like that
I worked on the railroad
For t'pence a day
Drank down one penny
The other I'd save
I hammered and I hammered
For God knows how long
Well into madness, with each setting sun
I put my head down and I dreamt you were here
With me by the ol' tree, where no one could care

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

Then the sun belched upon me
You were no longer here
Lyin' in your place was my hammer and my gear
We came to a mountain
Dynamite and she'll blow
A big hole in that rock
Like the one in my soul

With the heat I was melting
Into your sweet lips
Ah, your kiss takes me back
Takes me back from all this

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

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Posted 27 December 2004 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE (HinataFanBoy @ Dec 27 2004, 05:51 PM)
yup i can see than in the fic, looks to me like its goin narusaku tho, since she said that "Hinata knew she could never win his heart" or sumthin like that


Hah, you saw that too? That sentence also maded me think that too. Well it's good since i can keep it in my second fic account lol
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 12:33 AM

gah u know it sux, cuz i keep thinkin up ideas for fics but i cant get to my comp quick enough since im doin other stuff when the inspiration comes
I worked on the railroad
For t'pence a day
Drank down one penny
The other I'd save
I hammered and I hammered
For God knows how long
Well into madness, with each setting sun
I put my head down and I dreamt you were here
With me by the ol' tree, where no one could care

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

Then the sun belched upon me
You were no longer here
Lyin' in your place was my hammer and my gear
We came to a mountain
Dynamite and she'll blow
A big hole in that rock
Like the one in my soul

With the heat I was melting
Into your sweet lips
Ah, your kiss takes me back
Takes me back from all this

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 12:43 AM

HFB, carry around a pen and notepad with you. Personally, I scrawl ideas around the white edge of newspaper pages. And when I have an idea late at night, I write it on a sticky label and stick it to my bedroom door. Some are years old... tongue.gif

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 03:13 AM

eh i wrote these on the train when i was depressed

1) Iruka hates Naruto for housing Kyuubi and killing his parents
2) Kakashi blames Naruto for the death of his teacher
3) Haku kills Sasuke
4) Naruto looses to Kiba in the chuunin exams
5) Sakura dies at the hands of Gaara
6) Since Naruto is eliminated at from the chuunin exams, Neji stays bitter
7) Jiraya only trains Naruto because it was Yondaime?s dying wish
8) On the mission to find Tsunade, Shizune is killed
9) Tsunade reluctantly returns to Konoha as Godaime Hokage
10) Kyuubi, seeing his at corruption of his vessel as another means to gaining his/her (decide on a
gender) ?freedom? becomes Naruto?s teacher
11) Naruto falls into a deep depression and fakes his death
12) Kyuubi powered Kage Bushin is found dead with blood on his wrists and a red stained kunai
on the ground next to him
13) A note saying ?You?ve gotten what you wanted. The demon has been slayed.?
14) As Naruto secretly wanders the village, disguised by a powerful Kyuubi taught henge, he sees
the villagers and shinobi alike partying
15) However, Naruto notices that a certain raven haired, white eyed, Hyuuga heiress is not
present. On his way out of the village he sees Hinata crying under a tree.
16) Hinata is upset bout Narutos death but naruto decides its too late. he leaves
17) time passes and Naruto comes back and has his revenge on Konoha, Hinatas the only one who doesnt hate him (decide on whether she knows about Kyuubi or not), Naruto kills HInata and b4 she dies she tells him how she felt/feels.

Thats where i wanted it to go but i dunno how to have ending, heh yeah it was gonna b N***H***, but id rather have HInata die (just in the fic!! I LOVE YOU HINATA-HIME) so its more dramatic, then Naruto gets all pissed n depressed n crap like that, maybe then killing himself and Kyuubi or sumthin like that

so basically Naruto gets completely f***ed over
I worked on the railroad
For t'pence a day
Drank down one penny
The other I'd save
I hammered and I hammered
For God knows how long
Well into madness, with each setting sun
I put my head down and I dreamt you were here
With me by the ol' tree, where no one could care

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

Then the sun belched upon me
You were no longer here
Lyin' in your place was my hammer and my gear
We came to a mountain
Dynamite and she'll blow
A big hole in that rock
Like the one in my soul

With the heat I was melting
Into your sweet lips
Ah, your kiss takes me back
Takes me back from all this

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 06:38 AM

Eh that idea is done a lot in fanfiction though. Neji is bitter, Hinata dies tragically, etc.

Hmmm if you want to try writing a N***H*** fic why not make Hinata grow into something more than just a tragic heroine destined to die by Naruto's hand when he goes nuts.

I think that's what I liked about Hinata in Kyuubisensei. Despite the fact that it goes beyond the boundries of most morals and such. Hinata is actually a very strong and developed character. Also if anything Hinata and Naruto should I don't know be friends for a while before ANY sort of feelings get told. Most N***H***'s rush things by making Naruto fall for Hinata instantly just because she poured out her feelings to him. It just makes the story weak.

But oh well at least the N***H***'s don't pull out the Hinata and Naruto get drunk and get their groove on causing Hinata to get pregnant... like they do with Sakura in MANY a S***S*** fic. Heck I've even seen LeeSaku fics use the same formula.

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 04:51 PM

was there a fic that had all that in it though? I mean i think that stuff f***ed Naruto over in a ton of ways.

yeah i know it shudnt b quick, ruins it most of the time, thats y i loved dave-d's fic "where eagles dare" it kept Naruto and HInata in character very well and it really takes its time b4 HInata is Naruto's special person
I worked on the railroad
For t'pence a day
Drank down one penny
The other I'd save
I hammered and I hammered
For God knows how long
Well into madness, with each setting sun
I put my head down and I dreamt you were here
With me by the ol' tree, where no one could care

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

Then the sun belched upon me
You were no longer here
Lyin' in your place was my hammer and my gear
We came to a mountain
Dynamite and she'll blow
A big hole in that rock
Like the one in my soul

With the heat I was melting
Into your sweet lips
Ah, your kiss takes me back
Takes me back from all this

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 08:43 PM

Has anyone here read all of Viz's translations of Naruto? I'm sad to say, that's how I got hooked on Naruto, since I get Shonen Jump every month (even though I shouldn't. . . ). Well, I don't like what they're doing. They're creating stupid names for all the attacks, being too liberal with their translations, and they seem to be ardent Sasu Saku and Naru Hina shippers.

Seriously. In their little character blurbs before each segemt every month, they say Sakura's number one goal is to get the love of Sasuke, and ninja training cannot compare to the power of first love, all while mentioning nothing of Naruto's crush on Sakura. They view Naruto's love as a shallow crush, having him call her 'hot stuff' and 'babe' and such. There's no mention of him actually, you know, falling in love with her, which is how Inane (and many others) interpret his actions from the start to now. It seems to be nothing more than superficial crush - all for her looks - and they even go so far as to twist certain scenes so that they're not NaruSaku anymore. dry.gif

I'm not saying that they're out to kill the pairing, it's just that they need to start maybe translating the manga a little better. They seem obsessed with making Naruto (and many other titles) 'cool' and 'hip', while ignoring the fact that the majority of the Naruto fans don't like it that way. Damn Viz always rips people off. dry.gif
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 08:46 PM

Right. That does it. The Naruto manga is one manga I'm not buying. I don't care how much extra it costs me, but I'm gonna print it all out and stick the pages in a binder.

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 08:48 PM

lol sounds like Naruto is more rude
I worked on the railroad
For t'pence a day
Drank down one penny
The other I'd save
I hammered and I hammered
For God knows how long
Well into madness, with each setting sun
I put my head down and I dreamt you were here
With me by the ol' tree, where no one could care

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

Then the sun belched upon me
You were no longer here
Lyin' in your place was my hammer and my gear
We came to a mountain
Dynamite and she'll blow
A big hole in that rock
Like the one in my soul

With the heat I was melting
Into your sweet lips
Ah, your kiss takes me back
Takes me back from all this

Far Away Boys, Far Away Boys
Away from ya now
I'm lyin' with my sweetheart
In her arms I'll be found

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Posted 28 December 2004 - 08:56 PM

He is. He's crass, almost to the point of not being likable, and if there's anything to be said about Naruto, it's that he's a damn likable guy.

They also translate Shikamaru's 'troublesome' to 'pain in the butt', instead of using the actual translation, which is the preferred one (by far) by the fans.

And, of course, you can't forget translating Ino's technique into the 'Valentine' (do they not realize that Ino's father uses that attack?) and the Byakugan into 'Evil Eye', both being exasperating.
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 02:49 AM

Very true... I saw in the Shonen Jump that they actually mistranslate some of the stuff just to make it more acceptable for kids instead of manga otakus. Some the sentences were like for kids in junior high... early junior high.. dry.gif
The year's at the spring
And day's at the morn;
Morning's at seven;
The hill-side's dew-pearled
The lark's on the wing;
The snail's on the thorn;
God's in his Heaven -
All's right with the world!

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Posted 30 December 2004 - 03:36 AM

"I RULE AND YOU DROOL!"

"Oh man, I'm so screwed!"

Both from the first chapter. Both branded into my memory for eternity. *sighs*

ETA - Oh yeah, can't forget Sakura lamenting about being shorthanded in the 'T&A Department'. I kid you not. That is how Viz translated it.
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Posted 30 December 2004 - 06:53 AM

I. Hate. Viz.

They translated "Shikigami" to "Possessed Zombies" in X.

>.<

not only that, but I'm still pissy over the "evil eye"

*rants*

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Posted 30 December 2004 - 07:09 AM

lol "Evil Eye" is funny somehow..

They maded it like it's a very EVIL thing! ahhh
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