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#721 Gojira

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:11 AM

Oh I though you were just talking about pairings

Anyways who said it would follow this storyline? 

What other storyline would it follow?

 

Its not like GT you don't have the argument that its non-canon because Kishi is directly involved in this.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:25 AM

What other storyline would it follow?

 

Its not like GT you don't have the argument that its non-canon because Kishi is directly involved in this.

He can have a different storyline with the movie 


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:38 AM

Besides anything else today, I think its kinda funny and sad how some of the fandom in our part made too big a deal over the color spread or were scared when it doesn't mean kitten and yet there was no SS moment made from last chapter, it was otherwise just neutral and didn't answer or solve anything and yet today SS fans are going crazy by both the spread and otherwise saying something occurred when nothing was answered?

 

Well now I am just going to ignore the stuff thats outright foolish from the fandoms, aside from the usual banter of the other fandoms, when it comes to the worry of our own, yeah not really anything to be considered when its something foolish like thinking that SS is coming because of a color spread when in the story itself, nothing has actually erased or overcome the development or impacted the other events like the hint from 631 and the memory stuff of 663. While all other development is still there, I think this chapter should just be a state of where people remember what is important, nothing impacted NS, nothing helped or solved anything for SS, NH is still in the mud doing nothing, and the stuff for NS is still around and waiting to be used, that development and other stuff isn't going to vanish and some think it is, its not. Sakura has changed in regards to both naruto and sasuke and the stuff with sasuke is still an issue (the mistrust the negativity) so while some NS fans are either worried or SS fans are yelling like lunatics about somehow this being positive, it wasn't exactly answered nor solved so its still in effect, the negativity is still around, the mistrust is still around. Nothing has changed and the moment was neutral, he prevented sakura from falling on the floor and just thanked her and obito thats it, it didn't change his personality, he still doesn't love sakura and still theres no reason for him to. Sasuke loving Sakura is OOC and we all know this. So its not an issue, Sasuke never was an issue because he never posed an issue to NS, its only been sakura and her conflicted feelings for sasuke thats kept SS alive and even then its still changing and well, again it most likely declined or started to. SS doesn't need to die for NS to go canon, if anything Naruto can just become more important to Sakura herself in her heart where it matters and well, NS can go canon by events causing this change. Besides Sakura has for a fact had most of her greatest and most open moments with naruto, not sasuke and even then, for a relationship that naruto and sakura had that at the current point has been drastically different years ago, its not going to just stop at friendship it continues to change and its again, viable both ways that sakura could no longer love sasuke and just see him as a friend to save like naruto has for years or just as said before, naruto becomes more important to sakura where it matters, she can love both but the real love is for naruto, both are possible and logical ways NS could go canon.

 

But as I said before, this chapter should just serve as a calming and keep calm chapter, nothing happened from last chapter, nothing changed, sasuke is still an ass, he isn't sunshine and whatnot like people feared. Anytime people get scared at the silliest reasons, yeah I am going to just ignore that, we should all ignore the stupid reasons for being scared for NS.

 

The only things to fear are if Naruto gave up on sakura/looked at hinata more, something happened to the MK parallel, Sasuke started to love Sakura, or Sakura plain just never changing. With the exception of the last one, these first 3 are not bound to happen because they just make many puzzling questions and just well, make any result for another pairing underwhelming, as for the last of sakura never changing well this goes against everything for her development and includes rendering 675 null and void, if she never changed then kakashis words are wrong, but we know she changed and continues to, she most likely is falling out of love with him, seriously it would be shocking to think kishi did this whole story for sakura loving sasuke with the most faint of reasons and never even learn the difference of ideal vs real or even hell, she should at least learn it was naruto doing the compliments in chapter 3.

 

Anyways yeah, even then these reasons to fear are unlikely to come. NS isn't granted to happen, but its the most likely and theres also not much saying it won't happen aside from kishi having a sponaenous crazy episode to just say F-it with the story, but come on, even his writing isn't that bad even he isn't that bad. I mean again as you shouldn't get your hopes high all the time, you shouldn't ever put them so low either. I mean none of us even expected the result of 631 and that was a shocker and still a critical win in my opinion. 663 just added more fuel to help NS, nothing has changed this since then no matter how the fandom mocks it, NS is the most poential and theres really nothing major to worry about, for now anyways but with such development and hints, thats its own security right there, its not going to vanish or be sidelined, it will be taken care of in the future when needed, for now its just on hold and builds when it must, but nothing has happened to NS and nothing is likely to harm it. Its got a good future, every element is laid out and kishi has literally hundreds of ways to build it at this point. Its more likely to occur, than to not occur and thats saying it best. Because this is all development he chose, if it wasn't intended for a reason, it would not have gone this way.

 

I know no one here had dumb fears but I just felt like I had to say this just because well looking at all this stuff, it has to get an answer, NS having the longest development and most hints, critical ones even, thats the security in itself, if it was to go then kishi just voids some elements he made critical so yeah, its a bit of an important part in one sense on the story even on naruto in part, but thats again, its own security. Part of this subplot may revolve around part of narutos character and if NS is anything, then this is part of that security too. So its fine and unlikely to go away as much as haters hope it did. NS still goes on fine and untouched despite all the fear some NS fans get and all the ranting NH and SS fans do or try to put down on it. NS still holds the lead and is the most likely to occur no matter what others may feel.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:43 AM

I rather think of it all like this

Here was a chance for Sasuke and Sakura to get closer...

Did Kishimoto show them getting closer? No.
Did Sasuke confess anything and shown new information we didn't know before? No.
Did Sakura blush, confess her feelings, and shown interest in Sasuke again? No.
Did we get a moment at all? No
Did we have an opportunity to have a moment? Yes.

To me, this is worse than 615 because at least Naruto gave a response to Hinata in some way. Here, we have no interaction other than between Sasuke and Obito and then they came back. Nothing happened. End of story.

I am not going to say or bring up what they could have done "off panel" because then I could say the same about the wake up scene. "When they woke up after being almost dead, both Naruto and Sasuke could have confessed their love for Sakura and Karin respectfully off panel." Yeah, that doesn't fly does it? So, it either happens on panel or it doesn't. I use the same logic on even the cover art. Did it happen on panel? No? Then it doesn't count.

It is a simple logic to live by and it has made my life easier of sorts. So SS had a chance to grow...and it didn't.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:49 AM

I rather think of it all like this

Here was a chance for Sasuke and Sakura to get closer...

Did Kishimoto show them getting closer? No.
Did Sasuke confess anything and shown new information we didn't know before? No.
Did Sakura blush, confess her feelings, and shown interest in Sasuke again? No.
Did we get a moment at all? No
Did we have an opportunity to have a moment? Yes.

To me, this is worse than 615 because at least Naruto gave a response to Hinata in some way. Here, we have no interaction other than between Sasuke and Obito and then they came back. Nothing happened. End of story.

I am not going to say or bring up what they could have done "off panel" because then I could say the same about the wake up scene. "When they woke up after being almost dead, both Naruto and Sasuke could have confessed their love for Sakura and Karin respectfully off panel." Yeah, that doesn't fly does it? So, it either happens on panel or it doesn't. I use the same logic on even the cover art. Did it happen on panel? No? Then it doesn't count.

It is a simple logic to live by and it has made my life easier of sorts. So SS had a chance to grow...and it didn't.

I agree completely.
But I still think that the way cover was drawn is uncalled for. Mostly the fact that Sakura is blushing.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:52 AM

I agree completely.
But I still think that the way cover was drawn is uncalled for. Mostly the fact that Sakura is blushing.

 

Yeah well....we got the Road to Ninja movie where SS and NH were practically shutdown and I don't see us saying that was unnecessary. They get a cover art, we got a whole movie.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:14 AM

Actually I think the movie anouncement is a much larger threat to NS than the cover page is.

I understand, I think that contribute to this commotion.

The title movie is the last. Coming out at December. Showing older naruto sketch.

Thus Fandom conclude naruto will end in this year.
The chapter cover show western team 7 with ss riding together and sakura blush.
NS fan come to the conclusion that (kishi)sakura doesn't show a sign of degrading feeling toward sasuke, thus questioning kishi ability as a writer and the legitimacy of NS pairing.

If the movie is a canon continuation of manga. Will the pairing get enough resolution. Or maybe kishi will choose open ending!

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:21 AM

older naruto is virgin? :hm:



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:25 AM

older naruto is virgin? :hm:

Who knows :fu:

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:26 AM

what it's bothering me isn't the cover, it's fhe fact that seeing my NS felllows are pretty down and now it's like that only the faith can make NS canon. it's making me a bit nervous...  685 or 686 doesn't change anything, we're still near to the end of the manga. And there's a crucial clue that kishi has never showed: Naruto has NEVER confessed his love. NEVER.
 
And you know that all this means if Sasuke will come back to the village? It will be as Naruto is free from all burdnes that he has hold for years... And he will start a new life... Kushina "Someday you will want a girlfriend..."


You know i agree with you on the part he never confessed, remember when sai asked him wye he did not say it to sakura, and naruto replied i cant not yet not untill( sasuke js back) it would be wierd that he just wont do anything.

Lets say SS will be canon what rhen he just smiles at sakura when sasuke and sakura are nxt to eachother just not richt in my eyes.
And if NH would be canon Will naruto just go to hinata or other way around and say i like you and with naruto being Goofy self whaattt? Wierd too.

So my hopes for the end are still that naruto would confess,
But i do hope sai and naruto's talk was canon dont remember.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:26 AM

wow 37 pages in less then a day its amazing what small ns moments and a big blow moment for ss can do i never get tired of reading naruto's question to sasuke


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:35 AM

older naruto is virgin? :hm:

It's the Obito affect.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:37 AM

It's the Obito affect.

That mean sakura is dead.
How is that possible?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:38 AM

That mean sakura is dead.
How is that possible?

She was stabbed thanks to your prediction.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:40 AM

Pretty

 

I rather think of it all like this

Here was a chance for Sasuke and Sakura to get closer...

Did Kishimoto show them getting closer? No.
Did Sasuke confess anything and shown new information we didn't know before? No.
Did Sakura blush, confess her feelings, and shown interest in Sasuke again? No.
Did we get a moment at all? No
Did we have an opportunity to have a moment? Yes.

To me, this is worse than 615 because at least Naruto gave a response to Hinata in some way. Here, we have no interaction other than between Sasuke and Obito and then they came back. Nothing happened. End of story.

I am not going to say or bring up what they could have done "off panel" because then I could say the same about the wake up scene. "When they woke up after being almost dead, both Naruto and Sasuke could have confessed their love for Sakura and Karin respectfully off panel." Yeah, that doesn't fly does it? So, it either happens on panel or it doesn't. I use the same logic on even the cover art. Did it happen on panel? No? Then it doesn't count.

It is a simple logic to live by and it has made my life easier of sorts. So SS had a chance to grow...and it didn't.

 

This also they could have created a parallel if they wanted between Obito/Rin and Sasuke/Sakura but chose to have a parallel between Sasuke/Kakashi and Naruto/Obito instead and Sakura was concerned for Naruto without saying a peep to Sasuke. Not to mention the implication that Sasuke did not thank either Sakura nor Obito for their help.

 

Add that onto the ever growing list on why SS/NH will not happen.

 

Also from the looks of watching the anime again it seems NH mostly stemmed from the filler episodes of the anime. That's kind of sad. I hope these NH fans understand that filler is filler being irrelevant. If a NH fan ever brought up some filler as evidence then they need to go look at the definition of filler.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:48 AM

She was stabbed thanks to your prediction.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:50 AM

You know I actually had a person tell me that Naruto in canon finds Hinata a beautiful woman. He said it while she was naked and training by a waterfall. I almost didn't want to break it to them that the entire Bikoyou arc was filler....almost. :P



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:52 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

damm u rocci !! :hm:



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:05 AM

Tumblr, I have reason to believe the second is fanart. It mentions "Sakura's gloves" and "short hair" in English, the anatomy looks a bit off, etc.

 

I think that child is sakura and narutos kid. sakura must have passed her gloves down to her kid.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:18 AM

Obito at least better show he's in excruciating pain. 


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