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[ChocolatXVanilla14]

So, what's going on? What are we debating about? Someone please fill me in

[Liu bie]

So, what's going on? What are we debating about? Someone please fill me in

Almost everything about Narusaku, news, events, predictions, topics and more about Narusaku.

Edited by Liu bie, 02 September 2013 - 05:58 AM.

[ChocolatXVanilla14]

Almost everything about Narusaku, news, events, predictions, topics and more about Narusaku.

Oh thanks! ^_^

[Question22]

despite we dont have the advantage of numbers

 

We still are a popular pairing which is more likely to happen in the Naruto series

 

No couple stand a chance againts us.

[ChocolatXVanilla14]

despite we dont have the advantage of numbers
 
We still are a popular pairing which is more likely to happen in the Naruto series
 
No couple stand a chance againts us.

You're right. Though I hear we're pretty popular in Japan :)

[Chatte]

Even if Sasuke is redeemed, the point is... Sakura doesn't trust him. And in a relationship, trust is highly important. it would just not function.

[Question22]

Dont worry guys  i dont think Sakura isn't that stupid to fall for a criminal like Sasuke

 

SS is dead , NH is almost dead

 

NS alive forever!

[Superman333]

Even if Sasuke is redeemed, the point is... Sakura doesn't trust him. And in a relationship, trust is highly important. it would just not function.

not to mention the fact that Sakura has been showing that she loves Naruto subconsiouslyy though because of her lingering feelings for Sasuke . 

[Question22]

Anybody imagine a moment where Sasuke realises that Sakura has feelings for naruto?

 

But we all know Sasuke loves to break bonds *(Since Naruto is hes friend he cant break that bond but he obtained the mangekyu sharigan by taking itachi's eyes)

 

He will kidnap Sakura , and Naruto will fight Sasuke for Sakura!

 

Sasuke: insane laugh-

 

Naruto: Sasuke! Sakura is a fellow member of team 7!

 

Sasuke: Was a fellow member hahahah

 

Sakura: Naruto!!!

 

Sasuke: SILENCE!

 

Naruto: Sasuke you know Sakura loves you , more than me

 

Sasuke; Really? but i started to realise she starts having feelings for you!

 

Sasuke: I must break that bond

Edited by Question22, 02 September 2013 - 07:13 AM.

[morgaine4]

not to mention the fact that Sakura has been showing that she loves Naruto subconsiouslyy though because of her lingering feelings for Sasuke . 

 

That's especially important, because frankly something that's missed that should have been obvious to all the readers is that Sakura has never actually considered what her feelings for Naruto are.  Some people say that she tried to love him but failed when she confessed, but that's totally incorrect (and again, I'm not saying this because I'm wearing shipping glasses, this has been my stance since way before I decided I like this couple enough to *ship* them).

 

One thing that's important about the confession is that she literally was not thinking of herself, or of her feelings.  She was thinking about Naruto's burden, incorrectly hoping that the simplest solution she could think of would ease his burden, and she was thinking about Sasuke's extreme turn to the darkness --so extreme that he joined an organization which had a primary directive that would have resulted in Naruto's death.  She didn't think of herself, nor did she think of her feelings.  Sai, who though ignorant of emotions has gained an expertise in reading and studying Naruto and Sakura, noticed this.  That's why her flashbacks are important, not only do they show that she's concentrating on her vision of young Sasuke but she's not considering her feelings for Naruto at all.  Now, some will say that this is an indication that Sakura doesn't care romantially for Naruto to consider her feelings for him, but that ignores the number of times third characters have brought up her potential romantic feelings only to be interrupted.  Kishi is purposefully preventing Sakura from realizing her feelings too soon, because when she does for all intents and purposes the major romantic story is finished; after all, where Naruto stands is obvious, it's Sakura's feelings that are questionable.

 

And about Sakura's trust issues when it comes to Sasuke are important.  The opposition will say that the level of her current mistrust isn't important, because once Sasuke has redeemed himself through Naruto's TnJ, Sakura's mistrust will go back to default and the thing is, they're absolutely right.  The problem in terms of the SS pairing, however, is that Sakura's mistrust of Sasuke isn't new, Sakura never completely trusted Sasuke.  At the begining of part 1, Sakura was under the impression that she couldn't be herself to get Sasuke to like her, she didn't trust Sasuke enough to be her unguarded self (to be her inner-self).  (She was herself when Sasuke complimented her forehead, that made her comfortable enough to do so, the only problem of course is that that wasn't Sasuke but Naruto).  Then, her mistrust of Sasuke reached a far deeper level after Orochimaru placed his curse mark and she was exposed to how the temptation of power could change Sasuke; it's funny, some act as if Sakura was nothing but a Sasuke fangirl in part 1, and frankly at first she was...but that changed pretty quickly.  After all, Naruto and Kakashi both had faith that Sasuke would choose the path of a protector and stay in the village, Sakura did not trust Sasuke enough to make the decision.  It's why she was waiting for him at the bench, it's why she gave her (awful) confession (I wonder if she'll ever realize that had she been willing to be Sasuke's friend, and hadn't annoyed him with romantic overtures, she might have made a deeper impact on Sasuke's character...that if she'd been herself, and concentrated on training rather than her feelings for Sasuke back before Sasuke's defection, she might actually have affected him at least on the level Karin seems to do so.).  The point is, unless there are several more arcs (and Kishimoto has indicated that the manga is closing up at this point), the best case scenario is that Sakura's level of mistrust will default to part 1, she'll love him, she'll care about him, she and Sasuke will bond once again as team 7 (and probably over the depth of their feelings for Naruto), but will she be able to fully trust him?  If she didn't trust him before his defection, before the multiple times he tried to kill her, and worse, before the multiple time she tried to kill Naruto, before he went so far as to join the organization that hunted Naruto (and there's no question if Sakura would choose to save Naruto or Sasuke, she has chosen Naruto several times...even if Kishimoto never has Sakura realize romantic feelings for Naruto, at this point her feelings for Naruto are deeper than her feelings for any other person)...then how much will she be able to trust him after all that, whether or not he's chosen to work toward redemption?  Let's not forget, she's a thinker, she's a medic/physician, wouldn't she wonder when his next mental episode could occur?  (All this is if Kishimoto remains consistent in terms of romantic development, and honestly contrary to popular opinion -at least in the Western fandom, I wonder if it's different in the Japanese fandom- Kishimoto has always been consistent in terms of the romantic storyline...almost too consistent).

Edited by morgaine4, 02 September 2013 - 07:43 AM.

[Question22]

 

That's especially important, because frankly something that's missed that should have been obvious to everyone is that Sakura has never actually considered what her feelings for Naruto are.  Some people say that she tried to love him but failed when she confessed, but that's totally incorrect (and again, I'm not saying this because I'm wearing shipping glasses, this has been my stance since way before I decided I like this couple enough to *ship* them).

 

One thing that's important about the confession is that she literally was not thinking of herself, or of her feelings.  She was thinking about Naruto's burden, incorrectly hoping that the simplest solution she could think of would ease his burden, and she was thinking about Sasuke's extreme turn to the darkness --so extreme that he joined an organization which had a primary directive that would have resulted in Naruto's death.  She didn't think of herself, nor did she think of her feelings.  Sai, who though ignorant of emotions has gained an expertise in reading and studying Naruto and Sakura, noticed this.  That's why her flashbacks are important, not only do they show that she's concentrating on her vision of young Sasuke but she's not considering her feelings for Naruto at all.  Now, some will say that this is an indication that Sakura doesn't care romantially for Naruto to consider her feelings for him, but that ignores the number of times third characters have brought up her potential romantic feelings only to be interrupted.  Kishi is purposefully preventing Sakura from realizing her feelings too soon, because when she does for all intents and purposes the major romantic story is finished; after all, where Naruto stands is obvious, it's Sakura's feelings that are questionable.

 

And about Sakura's trust issues when it comes to Sasuke are important.  The opposition will say that the level of her current mistrust isn't important, because once Sasuke has redeemed himself through Naruto's TnJ, Sakura's mistrust will go back to default and the thing is, they're absolutely right.  The problem in terms of the SS pairing, however, is that Sakura's mistrust of Sasuke isn't new, Sakura never completely trusted Sasuke.  At the begining of part 1, Sakura was under the impression that she couldn't be herself to get Sasuke to like her, she didn't trust Sasuke enough to be her unguarded self (to be her inner-self).  (She was herself when Sasuke complimented her forehead, that made her comfortable enough to do so, the only problem of course is that that wasn't Sasuke but Naruto).  Then, her mistrust of Sasuke reached a far deeper level after Orochimaru placed his curse mark and she was exposed to how the temptation of power could change Sasuke; it's funny, some act as if Sakura was nothing but a Sasuke fangirl in part 1, and frankly at first she was...but that changed pretty quickly.  After all, Naruto and Kakashi both had faith that Sasuke would choose the path of a protector and stay in the village, Sakura did not trust Sasuke enough to make the decision.  It's why she was waiting for him at the bench, it's why she gave her (awful) confession (I wonder if she'll ever realize that had she been willing to be Sasuke's friend, and hadn't annoyed him with romantic overtures, she might have made a deeper impact on Sasuke's character...that if she'd been herself, and concentrated on training rather than her feelings for Sasuke back before Sasuke's defection, she might actually have affected him at least on the level Karin seems to do so.).  The point is, unless there are several more arcs (and Kishimoto has indicated that the manga is closing up at this point), the best case scenario is that Sakura's level of mistrust will default to part 1, she'll love him, she'll care about him, she and Sasuke will bond once again as team 7 (and probably over the depth of their feelings for Naruto), but will she be able to fully trust him?  If she didn't trust him before his defection, before the multiple times he tried to kill her, and worse, before the multiple time she tried to kill Naruto, before he went so far as to join the organization that hunted Naruto (and there's no question if Sakura would choose to save Naruto or Sasuke, she has chosen Naruto several times...even if Kishimoto never has Sakura realize romantic feelings for Naruto, at this point her feelings for Naruto are deeper than her feelings for any other person)...then how much will she be able to trust him after all that, whether or not he's chosen to work toward redemption?  Let's not forget, she's a thinker, she's a medic/physician, wouldn't she wonder when his next mental episode could occur?  (All this is if Kishimoto remains consistent in terms of romantic development, and honestly contrary to popular opinion -at least in the Western fandom, I wonder if it's different in the Japanese fandom- Kishimoto has always been consistent in terms of the romantic storyline...almost too consistent).

 

 

Damn so much Pro Narusaku-ish

 

We all know the cool guys never get the girl , the idiots do lol

[Psychox]

It's all edited minus the "Naruto's close but as expected she loves Sasuke".

 

 

"As long as we live under the same sky, silently and strongly, for that day I wait"

Cover 269 : Editor's Note.

http://s70.photobuck...8fa2c9.png.html

 

http://www.gaiaonlin...=7827053&page=1

[source]

All editor's note.

 

Funny how they are frozen in time, the editor who did this doesnt work for kishi anymore and they ignored the further development after those covers the last one being on 363.

 

If Editors note can count then i can count this as 

http://i5.mangareade...uto-1210373.jpg

Proof of Anti-SS.

 

 

What do you mean its all edited ? It was altered by the fans  to work in SS favor?     

Anyways ,  i wonder how much Sakura will love Sasuke when he hurts Naruto , some say it depends on the context , i say she will feed Sasuke his teeth .

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

That's especially important, because frankly something that's missed that should have been obvious to all the readers is that Sakura has never actually considered what her feelings for Naruto are.  Some people say that she tried to love him but failed when she confessed, but that's totally incorrect (and again, I'm not saying this because I'm wearing shipping glasses, this has been my stance since way before I decided I like this couple enough to *ship* them).

 

One thing that's important about the confession is that she literally was not thinking of herself, or of her feelings.  She was thinking about Naruto's burden, incorrectly hoping that the simplest solution she could think of would ease his burden, and she was thinking about Sasuke's extreme turn to the darkness --so extreme that he joined an organization which had a primary directive that would have resulted in Naruto's death.  She didn't think of herself, nor did she think of her feelings.  Sai, who though ignorant of emotions has gained an expertise in reading and studying Naruto and Sakura, noticed this.  That's why her flashbacks are important, not only do they show that she's concentrating on her vision of young Sasuke but she's not considering her feelings for Naruto at all.  Now, some will say that this is an indication that Sakura doesn't care romantially for Naruto to consider her feelings for him, but that ignores the number of times third characters have brought up her potential romantic feelings only to be interrupted.  Kishi is purposefully preventing Sakura from realizing her feelings too soon, because when she does for all intents and purposes the major romantic story is finished; after all, where Naruto stands is obvious, it's Sakura's feelings that are questionable.

 

And about Sakura's trust issues when it comes to Sasuke are important.  The opposition will say that the level of her current mistrust isn't important, because once Sasuke has redeemed himself through Naruto's TnJ, Sakura's mistrust will go back to default and the thing is, they're absolutely right.  The problem in terms of the SS pairing, however, is that Sakura's mistrust of Sasuke isn't new, Sakura never completely trusted Sasuke.  At the begining of part 1, Sakura was under the impression that she couldn't be herself to get Sasuke to like her, she didn't trust Sasuke enough to be her unguarded self (to be her inner-self).  (She was herself when Sasuke complimented her forehead, that made her comfortable enough to do so, the only problem of course is that that wasn't Sasuke but Naruto).  Then, her mistrust of Sasuke reached a far deeper level after Orochimaru placed his curse mark and she was exposed to how the temptation of power could change Sasuke; it's funny, some act as if Sakura was nothing but a Sasuke fangirl in part 1, and frankly at first she was...but that changed pretty quickly.  After all, Naruto and Kakashi both had faith that Sasuke would choose the path of a protector and stay in the village, Sakura did not trust Sasuke enough to make the decision.  It's why she was waiting for him at the bench, it's why she gave her (awful) confession (I wonder if she'll ever realize that had she been willing to be Sasuke's friend, and hadn't annoyed him with romantic overtures, she might have made a deeper impact on Sasuke's character...that if she'd been herself, and concentrated on training rather than her feelings for Sasuke back before Sasuke's defection, she might actually have affected him at least on the level Karin seems to do so.).  The point is, unless there are several more arcs (and Kishimoto has indicated that the manga is closing up at this point), the best case scenario is that Sakura's level of mistrust will default to part 1, she'll love him, she'll care about him, she and Sasuke will bond once again as team 7 (and probably over the depth of their feelings for Naruto), but will she be able to fully trust him?  If she didn't trust him before his defection, before the multiple times he tried to kill her, and worse, before the multiple time she tried to kill Naruto, before he went so far as to join the organization that hunted Naruto (and there's no question if Sakura would choose to save Naruto or Sasuke, she has chosen Naruto several times...even if Kishimoto never has Sakura realize romantic feelings for Naruto, at this point her feelings for Naruto are deeper than her feelings for any other person)...then how much will she be able to trust him after all that, whether or not he's chosen to work toward redemption?  Let's not forget, she's a thinker, she's a medic/physician, wouldn't she wonder when his next mental episode could occur?  (All this is if Kishimoto remains consistent in terms of romantic development, and honestly contrary to popular opinion -at least in the Western fandom, I wonder if it's different in the Japanese fandom- Kishimoto has always been consistent in terms of the romantic storyline...almost too consistent).

Part 1 wasnt a matter of trust, the difference is that she knew Sasuke, she was awake on the parts where Orochimaru, seduced Sasuke with power, Naruto and Kakashi wasnt there, she knew Sasuke enough that he would leave the village for power, Naruto didnt knew that so you cant judge that they trusted Sasuke, they believed he would chose the correct part due to what they see on him, like Sasuke saving his life and stuff, Naruto didnt saw the parts where Sasuke awakened his seal or Sasuke vs Orochimaru.

 

It was all a buildup for that moment, Sakura does that awfull confession ofc, she was selfish and she wanted to make Sasuke happy at the cost of her own (dignity[ betraying the village, kill people and etc...]) for someome who doesnt care about her.

 

This part she is different because everyone knows about Sasuke bad action, and not only Sakura distrust Sasuke because he tried to kill her, but also Shikamaru, Sai, Kiba, Lee, Tenten heck even Shino hates Sasuke, when you see a guy like Shino hating Sasuke is because he went too far.

[T XD]

Anyways ,  i wonder how much Sakura will love Sasuke when he hurts Naruto , some say it depends on the context , i say she will feed Sasuke his teeth .

I think she'll be angry and give some talk to him, but I don't think she'll punch him. I don't see that. Though, it's possible that she can do that  if she increased her speed and punched him all of a sudden showing her interfering between them cause I think she'll interfere in a way or another at some point to show that she got Naruto's back.

 

Other than this way, I think it will be a comic relief and this one can't work to be a comic relief for how to show Sakura if she punched him. But, I think that it's more possible for Sakura to not punch him.

[Dalton.T.R]

 

 

What do you mean its all edited ? It was altered by the fans  to work in SS favor?     

Anyways ,  i wonder how much Sakura will love Sasuke when he hurts Naruto , some say it depends on the context , i say she will feed Sasuke his teeth .

It would be nice, but I don't think so. If she punches him is could be considered as comic relief. This is one of the moments in the manga where it needs to be serious. Maybe she could slap him real hard, but not punch him. Besides, slapping him would tell the readers (even NH and SS fans in denial) that she's extremely pissed off.

[Canadian_DJ]

kishimoto said in the ToCs' comments about the volume 66 "It's been a long time since I enjoyed to draw a volume cover"... Guess that he doesn't give anything of volume 64

Well duuhhh, hinata isnt his favourite or anything... (there are people who say that kishi said he enjoys writing hinatas character, please he never said that.)

He obviously favours team 7 alot.

[Canadian_DJ]

well first of all , I don't get what the two pictures have to do with each other , doesn't Naruto and Killer Bee do what Naruto and Minato did .?

Desperate Duuuuuuuuudddeeeee NO COMMENT!!!!

MoonStar from chapter thread wants to shut the fans and while I don't want to sound bashful, but she's right. Enough is enough. End this, Minato. That's right, him. That's all I can say. Why? Because it's sad.
 
Oh and fyi, works much more with Sakura, especially if you considered 558.

This, 'nuff said.

Hinata isnt similar to any of those characters. Not sasuke, not sakura not ino NOT MINATO. Period. Sakuras thr only female like minato.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 02 September 2013 - 04:37 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Absolutely agree with you both - all I really want is for Naruto to take the time to tell Sakura how much she means to him and how much he appreciates all that she's done for him.  Because she's done a whole hell of a lot for him over the course of the entire manga.  I don't think that Naruto takes her for granted necessarily, but perhaps that he simply doesn't think its something he needs to tell her (because he thinks its so obvious).  If Sakura were to say anything along the lines of what she said to Yamato, about not being able to help him much, I could see it sparking such a speech from Naruto to her (again, right before the final battle with Sasuke or at the end of the war seems a likely time for such a conversation to take place).
 
Either way, since Hinata got such sincere gratitude twice over now, and Sasuke got two speeches from Naruto talking about what he means and how much he means to Naruto, I would sincerely hope that Sakura gets one - not only because she deserves it, but because as far as we know, Sakura still doesn't realize how much she's really helped him.
 
It really would tie in perfectly with a confession from Naruto, but I could see it being a stand alone thing as well.  Regardless, I really do hope that Naruto tells Sakura something like we've all laid out.

C'mon guys really? You guys think naruto gave hinata his sincere thank you's? No just no im sorry. Naruto only gave hinata a normal thanks in 615, but hey guess what? He also gave a thank you to neji in a more serious manner.

Naruto has showed mich of his gratitude towards sakura throughout the manga and vice versa.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

C'mon guys really? You guys think naruto gave hinata his sincere thank you's? No just no im sorry. Naruto only gave hinata a normal thanks in 615, but hey guess what? He also gave a thank you to neji in a more serious manner.

Naruto has showed mich of his gratitude towards sakura throughout the manga and vice versa.

He did, and rejecting this is being in denial, his thank you was serious in form of acknowledgement not on a romance gesture.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 September 2013 - 05:27 PM.

[Psychox]

I think she'll be angry and give some talk to him, but I don't think she'll punch him. I don't see that. Though, it's possible that she can do that  if she increased her speed and punched him all of a sudden showing her interfering between them cause I think she'll interfere in a way or another at some point to show that she got Naruto's back.

 

Other than this way, I think it will be a comic relief and this one can't work to be a comic relief for how to show Sakura if she punched him. But, I think that it's more possible for Sakura to not punch him.

 

It would be nice, but I don't think so. If she punches him is could be considered as comic relief. This is one of the moments in the manga where it needs to be serious. Maybe she could slap him real hard, but not punch him. Besides, slapping him would tell the readers (even NH and SS fans in denial) that she's extremely pissed off.

 

 

I was talking in the context of  a more serious matter ,he trying to pull a fast one on Naruto aiming to  kill him .