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#7301 FreakySandra1995

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

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Okay let me start by saying I don't believe he will give us open ending. Why? Let me elaborate on this first.

 

First of all people argue that NH fans will know the ending so they won't watch the movie, vive-versa for NS fans. This argument, althought not stupid, I don't think there's much reason to it. In the first place people who want to know the pairing will know either through others who watched the movie or through the supposed premiere on November that some fans will attend to. So, the problem with this argument is that we're expecting Kishi to milk the pairing by doing what: 1 month of slightly more merchandise sellings and a few more people in the first session of the movie? Really? Like this is enough to make a difference in 10+ years of working and bringing money home :zaru:

 

And yes I'm saying slight difference in money because I firmly believe that most Naruto fans aren't that much concerned with pairings, and mainly because, supposedly (so I heard from people here) NS fans are a bigger fanbase in Japan. And where's the movie again? Japan, sursprise! :ninja:

 

Then some also mention this: Oh! But the NH fans are a bigger fanbase in western countries... Yeah so? SS is bigger than NH/NS (again according to some members in here) in Japan (and is also kittening big in western countries) and I don't see them milking the pairing, so what's the point in this argument then? And by believing in this argument your basically saying you believe in NH happening :err:  Want to know why? Because those fans will know the ending before the movie gets to their cinemas, so what's the point I ask you? If this is how it's supposed to be then there's nothing stopping Kishi in making NH in the epilogue :roll:

 

So in the end the benefits from TROLLING your readers aren't enough to compensate the costs (1st principle of economics: the agent is rational). I believe there will be a pairing, most likely NS, but there will be one. Of course I don't exclude open ending because there's also another "principle" my teacher thought me in college: "Don't underestimate human stupidity".

It just wouldn't make sense to leave an open ending if we have an epilogue in my opinion. After all, isn't that what an epilogue is for? :/ But I also won't deny that possinility. I just think we will get something conclussive in the original work.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

Of course I don't exclude open ending because there's also another "principle" my teacher thought me in college: "Don't underestimate human stupidity".

Your teacher is smart person, there is quote of Alber Einstein:

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

Oh... I thought that all already understand that it will be biggest a**pull in history. Okay, have your own opinion =)
 

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:57 PM

 
In Narutoverse it doesn't happen yes, but that kinda goes against Hinata's character who always wore baggy clothes and had a shy personality.  She's not the kind of woman shows off her body. 


Perhaps I have been desensitised by RtN!Hinata, but Hinata's new design doesn't look look like it's shockingly revealing to me.
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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:58 PM

That is the very definition of a retcon, which has already happened. You learn something new everyday.

You made me laught at myself, thank you  :lol:



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:59 PM

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Some NH fan i think? Would love to see his videos :D



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 06:59 PM

 
We still havent see Kishi's sketch of Hinata.
My guess is that it could be possible that this is Studio Pierrot that dressed her like that.

It's not possible, Kishimoto has been confirmed to be the designer.

If it was Perriot, they'd out her in that red, tight Chinese qipao dress they forced her in in the fillers. The one that couldn't contain her breasts.

Edited by Nefertieh, 03 November 2014 - 07:02 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:01 PM

Hinata just decided to wear these clothes. There's nothing in them that says desperate, freak or whatever.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:01 PM

If it was Perriot, they'd out her in that red, tight Chinese qipao dress they forced her in in the fillers. The one that couldn't contain her breasts.

What? Where, I think I miss something D:



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:02 PM

Let it be for God's sake... Let it be :fu:

Yeah but it makes me feel weird.

 

 

ummn ...silence before sh*tstorm ..surely!


But I want that sh*tstorm now
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Lol.Let the final countdown begins!

 

Well once you hit rock bottom there is only up.

Yup.

 

Lol dont worry give it a few hours and it will turn into another freakout session

I don't want sweetie NS fans to panic.

 

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:02 PM

 

We still havent see Kishi's sketch of Hinata.

My guess is that it could be possible that this is Studio Pierrot that dressed her like that.

 

Huh? That would be way too much from SP. 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

All the girls got revealing designs. Even Tenten who was covered up big time in part 2 got real revealing. 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

It just wouldn't make sense to leave an open ending if we have an epilogue in my opinion. After all, isn't that what an epilogue is for? :/ But I also won't deny that possinility. I just think we will get something conclussive in the original work.

I always thougt we would be getting a conclusive ending like you said :D. The fact that some people kept on bringing money in this issue made me want to elaborate on the matter.

 

 

Your teacher is smart person, there is quote of Alber Einstein:

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

 

He was not mistaken in that statement :yes:


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:04 PM

What? Where, I think I miss something D:


A filler upskirt shot SP made, featuring Hinata.
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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

In Japan, people know it's NS. The ones from other countries who will know what the movie is when reading on the internet will get the slap.

 

Yes It's because it's clear with Japanese culture in your head.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:06 PM

They are in winter,right?And on mission they are dressed like that.Or is it me?My memory is f**cked up.Anyways I'd be frozen if I dressed like them.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:06 PM

 

We still havent see Kishi's sketch of Hinata.

My guess is that it could be possible that this is Studio Pierrot that dressed her like that.

They still haven't released Sasuke's either even if he's only having a small role. Why ?



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:06 PM

They are in winter,right?And on mission they are dressed like that.Or is it me?My memory is f**cked up.Anyways I'd be frozen.

 

.... Naruto is wearing shorts lol 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:07 PM

 

.... Naruto is wearing shorts lol 

He's hot.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:08 PM

That is the very definition of a retcon, which has already happened. You learn something new everyday.

Not in a story such as big as this  you have to pull a retcon of massive proportions  for it to happen and "flashback" like this doesn't even  cut it and that on itself is ridiculous not even an amateur would do that . Granted Kishis has retcons but  mostly when it comes to powers in this manga . But doing such a retcon while you have given all moments to another couple and develop it for 700 chapters makes no sens whatsoever  .  

 

Sure everything can be accomplished by an asspull but then what's the point of telling a story in the first place especially when it comes to developing relationships . 


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