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[kirabook]

Which is pretty messed up really. But hey, if Kishi feels the need to teach Naruto the lesson of never giving up over and over again at the expense of his development into a mature grown up ninja, then I guess he also feels the need to remind Sakura that Sasuke is no good and brings nothing but pain to herself and Naruto.

Kishi doesn't want the lesson to completely sink in for either of them yet, so I guess until then, Sakura is going to keep loving Sasuke and eventually, she'll finally let him go and move on. Whether she moves onto Naruto or not is the question, but all the hints indicate that chance is mighty high.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Which is pretty messed up really. But hey, if Kishi feels the need to teach Naruto the lesson of never giving up over and over again at the expense of his development into a mature grown up ninja, then I guess he also feels the need to remind Sakura that Sasuke is no good and brings nothing but pain to herself and Naruto.

Kishi doesn't want the lesson to completely sink in for either of them yet, so I guess until then, Sakura is going to keep loving Sasuke and eventually, she'll finally let him go and move on. Whether she moves onto Naruto or not is the question, but all the hints indicate that chance is mighty high.

Well, I would use the f word-up, myself, were I not trying to avoid such naughty words.

The rest we have already been through, no? The parts about how Sasuke was not always the incarnation of Lucifer himself and the baddest boy of the baddest boys, how NS hints can be interpreted in a different non-shippy way, how SS might be possible. New round?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 28 December 2012 - 11:40 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, I would use the f word-up, myself, were I not trying to avoid such naughty words.

The rest we have already been through, no? The parts about how Sasuke was not always the incarnation of Lucifer himself and the baddest boy of the baddest boys, how NS hints can be interpreted in a different non-shippy way, how SS might be possible. New round?

How SS might be possible if Sasuke didnt show any love interest regarding to Sakura and just look there are three guys who loves Sasuke not just Sakura.
Sakura has the highest chance to move on because of the bad things he did for her, the NS hints, that bridge scene when that was pretty obvious she had romantic feelings for Naruto, that was no different interpretation for that scene.

Sasuke will continue doing evil things because it's his role, he will try to do the same thing as Obito doing now.
He will go further and further into darkness so the chance of her letting it go it's high.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 28 December 2012 - 11:50 PM.

[Mathiasosx]

So what did Sakura's rose tinted view of Sasuke construct the murder attemps to be? Some sexy foreplay?

I have a hard time believing that Sakura would view Sasuke as some romance hero who has hardly done anything wrong. She tried to kill him because she thought he had gone too far. She temporarily gave up hope of ever getting him back. She knew he was tempted by promises of power from Oro. That is why she was waiting for him by that road back in the days of Sasuke retrieval. She doesn't think him in great light in ch 540, either. I think Sakura knows full well what Sasuke is like, how dark and messed-up. She just loves him anyway.

You make a very good point. That is probably the most ambiguous part of my post and I'm not sure I I should have written that. Still I feel that Sakura sees Sasuke as better than he is. That he can be redeemed. Right now he's better than he was but I'm not certain he is redeemable. I know Naruto also thinks Sasuke is redeemable and it may be possible and is debatable as if it will happen. Just as it is actually debatable weather Sakura still actually loves Sasuke or is grasping onto nostalgia in hope that he will see their side of things. To be honest there isn't a huge amount of evidence on this so I'll leave it there.

However I will say this a woman's heart and mind have different voices. Interpret that how you will.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

How SS might be possible if Sasuke didnt show any love interest regarding to Sakura and just look there are three guys who loves Sasuke not just Sakura.
Sakura has the highest chance to move on because of the bad things he did for her, the NS hints, that bridge scene when that was pretty obvious she had romantic feelings for Naruto, that was no different interpretation for that scene.

Sasuke will continue doing evil things because it's his role, he will try to do the same thing as Obito doing now.
He will go further and further into darkness so the chance of her letting it go it's high.

Yamato: Sakura, you really can't stand Naruto!
Sakura: hah, damn straight, my man!

--

Yamato: sakura, you really love Naruto!
Sakura: yeah... He is like a brother to me.

--

Yamato: (the same)
Sakura: yes, he has been such a good friend.

--

There you go. Some alternative interpretions from straight from the keypad of non-NH shipper herself.

[Qia]

So what did Sakura's rose tinted view of Sasuke construct the murder attemps to be? Some sexy foreplay?

I have a hard time believing that Sakura would view Sasuke as some romance hero who has hardly done anything wrong. She tried to kill him because she thought he had gone too far. She temporarily gave up hope of ever getting him back. She knew he was tempted by promises of power from Oro. That is why she was waiting for him by that road back in the days of Sasuke retrieval. She doesn't think him in great light in ch 540, either. I think Sakura knows full well what Sasuke is like, how dark and messed-up. She just loves him anyway.

But just because she still has feelings for him doesn't mean she'll want to BE with him. After she was unable to kill him, the only thing she states is that she'll have faith that the old team 7 will be back basically. Earlier Kakashi had stated that he was sorry that he made her believe team 7 could be happy together again, but Naruto restored that faith that they could when he comes and has that discussion with Sasuke. And it's also like this: If Naruto can give up on chasing Sakura despite his feelings, why can't Sakura give up on chasing Sasuke despite hers? Plus, they don't exactly seem that strong considering:

1. She gave up on him about 3 times. The first time was when Naruto failed to get him back in part 1. The second time was when Naruto was hurt after going 4 tails (she was willing to turn back even though this was the only lead they had on Sasuke in a long time), and three was after the confession.
2. Ever since part 2 began, she was never shown to be thinking of him in a romantic light. The times she HAD thought about him were only as team 7 trying to get him back.

But this is just my opinion of things

[kirabook]

Well, I would use the f word-up, myself, were I not trying to avoid such naughty words.

The rest we have already been through, no? The parts about how Sasuke was not always the incarnation of Lucifer himself and the baddest boy of the baddest boys, how NS hints can be interpreted in a different non-shippy way, how SS might be possible. New round?

But now, Sasuke is the incarnation of Lucifer himself and the baddest boy of the baddest boys. There's no way around that, no excuses because he chose that path, no sympathy from mostly everyone except Naruto and Sakura (and maybe Kakashi). Not sure how he will go to that, be forgiven for everything he's done (Not by Sakura or Naruto, but by everyone else), being 'good' again, and then developing any romantic feelings for Sakura at all. Relationships are two sided, just like with NH, SS is not possible until Sasuke develops feelings for Sakura. Sasuke's redemption will not spawn feelings of love for Sakura.

The next step will most likely be another future confrontation or thoughts of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke not being good yet again, but no actual conclusions about said feelings revealed to the audience until who knows when. The manga won't be resolved without the resolution of Sakura feelings for Sasuke, Naruto's feelings for Sakura, and lastly, Hinata's feelings for Naruto, which might be happening right now.

If I had to put it into order:

- Hinata's feelings and character arc are finally being resolved. If that will make her disappear or not, time will tell, but this is her climax.
- Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are probably going to be brought up next, and I think they will be resolved next as well. They will probably be brought up again ages before they are resolved.
- The last relationship that will be resolved is Naruto's and Sakura's. I don't think this will happen until Sasuke and Naruto are on an "even" plane for Sakura to finally pick who she feels is right for her. This situation could very well be resolved at the same time as her feelings for Sasuke are resolved. (Either her choosing to go with Sasuke anyway, or her going for Naruto, not because he is second best, but because he is truly the one for her now that she can see everything in once place so to speak)

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

You make a very good point. That is probably the most ambiguous part of my post and I'm not sure I I should have written that. Still I feel that Sakura sees Sasuke as better than he is. That he can be redeemed. Right now he's better than he was but I'm not certain he is redeemable. I know Naruto also thinks Sasuke is redeemable and it may be possible and is debatable as if it will happen. Just as it is actually debatable weather Sakura still actually loves Sasuke or is grasping onto nostalgia in hope that he will see their side of things. To be honest there isn't a huge amount of evidence on this so I'll leave it there.

However I will say this a woman's heart and mind have different voices. Interpret that how you will.

I just don't see how her love for Sasuke can be debated. I can see how you can believe that she will move on, sure she can. But that she might not love Sasuke and at the same time not see him as he is? I don't get it. I think those instances I listed are pretty certain evidence against Sakura having too good picture of Sasuke. Well, I think that Sasuke is definitely redeemable and am about 95% sure he will be redeemed. If Sasuke won't be redeemed and will go down wicked dark evil, then maybe Sakura and Naruto did have too rosy a picture of him. Have to see the whole manga before concluding that, thought.

Heart, mind, what?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 29 December 2012 - 12:04 AM.

[Qia]

Yamato: Sakura, you really can't stand Naruto!
Sakura: hah, damn straight, my man!

--

Yamato: sakura, you really love Naruto!
Sakura: yeah... He is like a brother to me.

--

Yamato: (the same)
Sakura: yes, he has been such a good friend.

--

There you go. Some alternative interpretions from straight from the keypad of non-NH shipper herself.

I think why a lot of NSers may see it as more of a romantic implication is because of the way Sakura's reacted with Naruto before that scene happened. Like, asking him if she looked more like a woman now? Then admiring how strong he seems and then again how amazing he's become? I don't know...it doesn't come across as just a brother thing, but I could be wrong.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

But just because she still has feelings for him doesn't mean she'll want to BE with him. After she was unable to kill him, the only thing she states is that she'll have faith that the old team 7 will be back basically. Earlier Kakashi had stated that he was sorry that he made her believe team 7 could be happy together again, but Naruto restored that faith that they could when he comes and has that discussion with Sasuke. And it's also like this: If Naruto can give up on chasing Sakura despite his feelings, why can't Sakura give up on chasing Sasuke despite hers? Plus, they don't exactly seem that strong considering:

1. She gave up on him about 3 times. The first time was when Naruto failed to get him back in part 1. The second time was when Naruto was hurt after going 4 tails (she was willing to turn back even though this was the only lead they had on Sasuke in a long time), and three was after the confession.
2. Ever since part 2 began, she was never shown to be thinking of him in a romantic light. The times she HAD thought about him were only as team 7 trying to get him back.

But this is just my opinion of things

1. She truly gave up on him once, by my count: when she judged him too far gone to live in the summit arc. The other examples are willingness to set Sasuke aside for a while so Naruto doesn't die chasing after him. Three years gone, what is a few more weeks? Failing to get Sasuke back in part one... Didn't Naruto and Sakura vow to get him back? I don't really see how that's giving up?

2. Had you said in positive romantic light, I might have agreed. She has thought about him several times. Once pretty clearly as someone she is in love with: the infamous ch 540.

As for the rest, agreed. Sakura sure can get past Sasuke. Even if NH is canon, that won't automatically mean SS will be as well.

[T XD]

I think why a lot of NSers may see it as more of a romantic implication is because of the way Sakura's reacted with Naruto before that scene happened. Like, asking him if she looked more like a woman now? Then admiring how strong he seems and then again how amazing he's become? I don't know...it doesn't come across as just a brother thing, but I could be wrong.

This scene was cut off from Yamato's mouth for a reason, if it was just to show a brother-sister care, we would have seen Yamato saying it cause it won't have an effect on anything.
Kishi is just delaying this moment as a dialogue like this from a character to a main chatacter means that there's something regarding from the main character spoken to.

Edited by T XD, 29 December 2012 - 12:15 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

1. She truly gave up on him once, by my count: when she judged him too far gone to live in the summit arc. The other examples are willingness to set Sasuke aside for a while so Naruto doesn't die chasing after him. Three years gone, what is a few more weeks? Failing to get Sasuke back in part one... Didn't Naruto and Sakura vow to get him back? I don't really see how that's giving up?

Sakura give up, only Naruto is trying to pursue it since the promise is broken.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

But now, Sasuke is the incarnation of Lucifer himself and the baddest boy of the baddest boys. There's no way around that, no excuses because he chose that path, no sympathy from mostly everyone except Naruto and Sakura (and maybe Kakashi). Not sure how he will go to that, be forgiven for everything he's done (Not by Sakura or Naruto, but by everyone else), being 'good' again, and then developing any romantic feelings for Sakura at all. Relationships are two sided, just like with NH, SS is not possible until Sasuke develops feelings for Sakura. Sasuke's redemption will not spawn feelings of love for Sakura.

Ah, but surely even Sasuke himself did not strangle kittens as a baby. Seriously, thought, Sasuke was basically a good guy in part one, a good guy with some unpleasent personality traits and destructive obsession, but someone pretty decent anyway. I think Sasuke's redemption is necessary for SS. That is probably pretty obvious. He did many things wrong during his dark times. If redemption, then time to revalueate his life. Sakura is a great girl. Maybe the new and improved Sasuke will see that, too.

The next step will most likely be another future confrontation or thoughts of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke not being good yet again, but no actual conclusions about said feelings revealed to the audience until who knows when. The manga won't be resolved without the resolution of Sakura feelings for Sasuke, Naruto's feelings for Sakura, and lastly, Hinata's feelings for Naruto, which might be happening right now.

That, or SS.

If I had to put it into order:

- Hinata's feelings and character arc are finally being resolved. If that will make her disappear or not, time will tell, but this is her climax.
- Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are probably going to be brought up next, and I think they will be resolved next as well. They will probably be brought up again ages before they are resolved.
- The last relationship that will be resolved is Naruto's and Sakura's. I don't think this will happen until Sasuke and Naruto are on an "even" plane for Sakura to finally pick who she feels is right for her. This situation could very well be resolved at the same time as her feelings for Sasuke are resolved. (Either her choosing to go with Sasuke anyway, or her going for Naruto, not because he is second best, but because he is truly the one for her now that she can see everything in once place so to speak)

To me:
-NH canon, or close as. Agree on Hinata being resolved now. But she will get Naruto, not rejected.
-Sasuke redemption. Will it happen, will he live? The SS will depend on these two things, the way I see it, assuming of course that NH is already canon.
-fate of SS. Will Sakura still want Sasuke if he gets redeemed and wants Sakura to be his new honey?

Sakura give up, only Naruto is trying to pursue it since the promise is broken.

Yep, in the summit arc Sakura temporarily gave up on Sasuke. She was reassured that there is still hope for him during the same arc.

T XD, yes, it was cut off for a reason: Kishi didn't want to reveal too much at that time. Why? Because it would hint too much that NS will be canon, or because he was only misleading the readers? Something else entirely?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 29 December 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[Qia]

1. She truly gave up on him once, by my count: when she judged him too far gone to live in the summit arc. The other examples are willingness to set Sasuke aside for a while so Naruto doesn't die chasing after him. Three years gone, what is a few more weeks? Failing to get Sasuke back in part one... Didn't Naruto and Sakura vow to get him back? I don't really see how that's giving up?

2. Had you said in positive romantic light, I might have agreed. She has thought about him several times. Once pretty clearly as someone she is in love with: the infamous ch 540.

As for the rest, agreed. Sakura sure can get past Sasuke. Even if NH is canon, that won't automatically mean SS will be as well.

1. I'm having trouble seeing part 1 as not giving up, considering she told Naruto it was alright. But then Naruto encouraged her and told her that he would keep his promise. If he hadn't she would have given up, considering she believed that he was the only one that could bring Sasuke back and he'd failed. But then he said he wouldn't go back on his word, and she saw how injured he was and told him they would do it together. But honestly, if Naruto wasn't hadn't been so strong willed with that promise, she would have. Sakura did have weak will even then. And about her putting aside Sasuke, if she'd been allowed to put him aside then and they'd gone back, who knows how long they would have gotten more information. But I can see how that wouldn't be considered giving up. It does really emphasize how much she cares for Naruto though.

2. The only times I remembered her thinking about him was when it came to her and Naruto getting him back, but it was never just him in a romantic light until 540. That's why I don't think her feelings are as strong as some people think personally.

Edit: When it comes to Yamato's words this is what I think: If it's so obvious to everyone that they have a brother/sister bond, even to Naruto and Sakura, then why did he bother pointing it out unless it's much stronger than that? Why did he bother stressing on the STRENGTH of her FEELINGS? Why didn't he just say that it's more important how much she cared for him? I don't know, it's just the way it's phrased that makes it seem...not platonic. But again my view.

Edited by Qia, 29 December 2012 - 12:38 AM.

[StriderC]

I don't know if anyone here has seen "The Perks of being a Wallflower but there's something that rang to me. I just thought about how Naruto relates to this line. In regards to Sakura, he's always put her happiness before his, but I wonder if he's ever thought that he's the one could very well make her happy. He IS the one that makes her happy.

They have one of the strongest bonds in NaruVerse, and it's just as Dragon says. I'll accept NH if it's flat out a legit reason for him loving her so suddenly. Otherwise, like Dragon said, his feelings for Sakura are what is a part of him just like for me, Sakura's bond with Naruto is what's part of her. He plays a big part in her character development.

I also see a parallel between Naruto and Sakura. Don't know if it's legit or not but the face he makes when Sakura hugs Sasuke and the face she makes when she realizes that Hinata risked her life for Naruto. I think that says something and then this face she's making right now. Even though her expression is vague, it could be that she's in Naruto's shoes at the moment. She's seeing what he saw with her and Sasuke... But that's not saying Naruto loves Hinata. Thing is, who knows what's going through her head. Is she thinking, "But I thought he loved me?", or "Why do I feel like this?". A lot of possibilities with that one panel...

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

1. I'm having trouble seeing part 1 as not giving up, considering she told Naruto it was alright. But then Naruto encouraged her and told her that he would keep his promise. If he hadn't she would have given up, considering she believed that he was the only one that could bring Sasuke back and he'd failed. But then he said he wouldn't go back on his word, and she saw how injured he was and told him they would do it together. But honestly, if Naruto wasn't hadn't been so strong willed with that promise, she would have. Sakura did have weak will even then. And about her putting aside Sasuke, if she'd been allowed to put him aside then and they'd gone back, who knows how long they would have gotten more information. But I can see how that wouldn't be considered giving up. It does really emphasize how much she cares for Naruto though.

2. The only times I remembered her thinking about him was when it came to her and Naruto getting him back, but it was never just him in a romantic light until 540. That's why I don't think her feelings are as strong as some people think personally.

1. My reading is that she didn't hate Naruto for failing hence the "it's alright". She understood that Naruto had done everything to get Sasuke back and coudn't ask for more. She was upset hearing about Sasuke being gone. she did not get over him minutes after he left. She then goes to promise to help him to get Sasu back. Would she have done so if Naruto hadn't wanted to try again? I think she eventually would have. I don't think she has a weak will. She is just so unsure of herself, insecure. But she is also very stubborn and after all this still loves Sasuke. I think she is pretty strong willed.

Well, I can't see Sakura wanting Sasuke with any price. She is not willing to let her friends die just to get him back.

2. We see her being upset and missing Sasuke several times. She wants to still go get him back until the summit arc. Kakashi, Sai and Naruto also comment on her love for Sasuke. And then there is the entire time when she tried to kill him partially out of desire to help him and couldn't because he was still her old friend and someone she loved, despite everything.
And she did hit Sai for insulting Sasuke, bless her.

Edit. Yamato thing: I'm thinking more why Kishi as the writer put the scene in. Two options I come up with are 1. Hint for NS or 2. Deliberate red herring.

They have one of the strongest bonds in NaruVerse, and it's just as Dragon says. I'll accept NH if it's flat out a legit reason for him loving her so suddenly. Otherwise, like Dragon said, his feelings for Sakura are what is a part of him just like for me, Sakura's bond with Naruto is what's part of her. He plays a big part in her character development.

He does. Sakura evolves from a girl who can barely stand Naruto into a girl who is willing to fight in a war with him, supporting him. She hated him in a childish way but now she loves him, but I don't think in a romantic way.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 29 December 2012 - 12:57 AM.

[Don-kun]

Poison I understand that you really like SS, but If I were you, just like we NS fans, we try not to get engage with the NH side, because the have the focus right now, SS is the lease likable pairing even if Sasuke is redeemed NaruSaku, LeeSaku could still top it look at the show, they really trying to make that pairing appealing to the fans, even SasuKarin has more chances at this point than SS, Sasuke represents Sakura's weakness and if she cannot be angry at Sasuke the way Karin is then SS will never happen, also remember NH has a lot of focus now but Naruto still haven shown any romantic progress toward her and Kishimoto for some odd reason is Keeping Sakura and Naruto chat out of the way for the moment.

If I were you I would of enjoy with other SS fans the beauty of SS, because doing it somewhere else you will only be told the cold hard fact, Sasuke does not love Sakura, the relationship is negative, he tried to kill her 3 times and even if Sakura still harbor feelings for his it was painted in a bad light.

Like I say enjoy your pairing and wait to see if there will be any hint in the near future for the pairing.

Now if you want to say what about NS, just remember two things Naruto has not made clear his current status with Sakura, two Sai, Kakashi or even Kurama could ask him what is going on between him and Sakura and he could make it very clear that he still love her but he wants to rescue Sasuke before they can talk about them, them all NH canon talk will be gone just like that.

I can even picture Sakura feeling Sad that she might lose Naruto based on her reaction based and Yamato's speech, Sai question Sakura's behavior and chapter 442.

Can you guarantee that Sasuke regrets what he did to Sakura and also loves her?

Or give us a lot o what if but nothing solid from the Manga?

Edited by Don-kun, 29 December 2012 - 01:25 AM.

[Qia]

1. My reading is that she didn't hate Naruto for failing hence the "it's alright". She understood that Naruto had done everything to get Sasuke back and coudn't ask for more. She was upset hearing about Sasuke being gone. she did not get over him minutes after he left. She then goes to promise to help him to get Sasu back. Would she have done so if Naruto hadn't wanted to try again? I think she eventually would have. I don't think she has a weak will. She is just so unsure of herself, insecure. But she is also very stubborn and after all this still loves Sasuke. I think she is pretty strong willed.

Well, I can't see Sakura wanting Sasuke with any price. She is not willing to let her friends die just to get him back.

2. We see her being upset and missing Sasuke several times. She wants to still go get him back until the summit arc. Kakashi, Sai and Naruto also comment on her love for Sasuke. And then there is the entire time when she tried to kill him partially out of desire to help him and couldn't because he was still her old friend and someone she loved, despite everything.
And she did hit Sai for insulting Sasuke, bless her.

Edit. Yamato thing: I'm thinking more why Kishi as the writer put the scene in. Two options I come up with are 1. Hint for NS or 2. Deliberate red herring.

1. I never said she got over him and suddenly didn't have feelings though. I saw that "it's alright" like that too, but also as a sign of her giving up on chasing after him if Naruto failed. I can't see her going up to him after and saying "you can try again later and get hurt again most likely". It was Naruto's encouraging that gave her hope, and then she decided that they would do it together and get stronger. But she ONLY decided to do this after Naruto insisted that he wouldn't give up. And no even Sakura states that when it comes to Sasuke she's had weak will, and this was in the recent team 7 reunion.

2. Just because she wants Sasuke back doesn't make it romantic though. Even Naruto wants him back. And just because Kakashi, Sai, and Naruto make those comments doesn't mean it's exactly true. Her love may not be AS strong as they're insinuating. Because, for one thing, Naruto's flashbacks of Sakura was about how she was in the past. Sai to me is just going off what Naruto said. And Kakashi and Yamato don't comment about her love. Their comments are all about why she would do what she did. What was she up to? (Kakashi states that she probably plans on killing him herself). But that's it.

And if that's a deliberate red herring then Sai's words are a red herring as well. But honestly, they're words come across very true with Sakura's actions to me.

Oh by the way can someone tell me what Kakashi might have said here: http://www.narutobas...a/Naruto/469/14

I'm not trying to make it seem like anything by the way, I'm just genuinely wondering lol xD.

Edited by Qia, 29 December 2012 - 01:14 AM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Sasuke represents Sakura's weakness and if she cannot be angry at Sasuke the way Karin is then SS will never happen, also remember with all that NH has a lot of focus Naruto still haven shown any romantic progress

See, this is the way you see things. Many others, me included, do not agree. You think Sasuke represents Sakura's weakness that she needs to overcome. I do not, in any way. You think that SS can never happen because she didn't give up on Sasuke. I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You thin that Naruto hasn't shown romantic feelings for Hinata, some NH shippers declared it canon. You are not stating facts, you are stating your opinions. That's perfectly fine, but please remember the difference between a fact and an opinion.

If I were you I would of enjoy with other SS fans the beauty of SS, because doing it somewhere else you will only be told the cold hard fact, Sasuke does not love Sakura, the relationship is negative, he tried to kill her 3 times and even if Sakura still harbor feelings for his it was painted in a bad light.

You know, I actually am aware of this cold hard fact. Not only that: I loved all of those moments. sorry.

Can you guarantee that Sasuke regrets what he did to Sakura and also loves her?

Are you asking if I am secretly Kishi? Well, yes, I am. Have some spoilers: Naruto becomes an icecream man after realizing the amount of paperwork in the hokage business. Sakura opens a spa and marries Neji's corpse.

Nah, can't guarantee anything. Can hope, though. And Sasuke being redeemed would def. mean him feeling sorry for all that he has done. If he doesn't, well, worst redemption ever.

Qia, we are probably gonna have to agree to disagree on the strength of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. I honestly don't remember the weak willed part on the recent reunion so I can't really comment on that. As for Kakashi panel... Well, Kakashi goes to figure out Sakura's whole plot so I think he is trying to figure her actions out.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 29 December 2012 - 01:26 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Poison I understand that you really like SS, but If I were you, just like we NS fans, we try not to get engage with the NH side, because the have the focus right now, SS is the lease likable pairing even if Sasuke is redeemed NaruSaku, LeeSaku could still top it look at the show, they really trying to make that pairing appealing to the fans, even SasuKarin has more chances at this point than SS, Sasuke represents Sakura's weakness and if she cannot be angry at Sasuke the way Karin is then SS will never happen, also remember with all that NH has a lot of focus Naruto still haven shown any romantic progress toward her and Kishimoto for some odd reason is Keeping Sakura and Naruto chat out of the way for the moment.

If I were you I would of enjoy with other SS fans the beauty of SS, because doing it somewhere else you will only be told the cold hard fact, Sasuke does not love Sakura, the relationship is negative, he tried to kill her 3 times and even if Sakura still harbor feelings for his it was painted in a bad light.

Like I say enjoy your pairing and wait to see if there will be any hint in the near future for the pairing.

Now if you want to say what about NS, just remember two things Naruto has not made clear his current status with Sakura, two Sai, Kakashi or even Kurama could ask him what is going on between him and Sakura and he could make it very clear that he still love her but he wants to rescue Sasuke before they can talk about them, them all NH canon talk will be gone just like that.

I can even picture Sakura feeling Sad that she might lose Naruto based on her reaction based and Yamato's speech, Sai question Sakura's behavior and chapter 442.

Can you guarantee that Sasuke regrets what he did to Sakura and also loves her?

Or give us a lot o what if but nothing solid from the Manga?

Bolded QFT

You know, I actually am aware of this cold hard fact. Not only that: I loved all of those moments. sorry.

...oh. Wow. Uh. O..k..then.. well, if abusive relationships are... your thing, then I guess we can't really argue more at this point, that's just what you're into.. so..

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 29 December 2012 - 01:23 AM.