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[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm not 100% claiming NaruSaku is as good as canon because of RtN. Logically, that's a biased point of view and anything can still happen if Kishi wants it too. However, I will say that movie increased it's chances and makes it into a "If any other pairing happens, it'll be awkward" zone. I've always believed it'll be the canon couple for a while now, but this movie just increased my confidence more.

I mean, really? That NaruSaku/MinaKushi confirmation in Rtn? Parallel to 1st Kyuubi attack with NS this time instead of MK? That's just too damn obvious, it's what really implied NaruSaku being canon. Seriously, after something like that, part of me doesn't blame NaruSaku fans for saying it's almost canon or canon.

Agreed.

The only solution to kill NS is of course kill your writing. Honestly, that's the only option there is for Kishi. This movie is making it hard to think that NS won't be canon in the end while others are. I know the movie is not canon and all, but really, don't you think it will be hard to watch this movie if the pairing is not canon, let alone making Sasuke to Sakura as a no-no. Anyway, I sense the time is getting near.

[catsi563]

Know what? heres a thought. how about we just enjoy the movie isntead of worrying about canonincity. we have a movie focusing on our favorite couple and showing them kicking butt and having romantic interactions.

366 pages in and were still mired in an argument about who wrote what and whats canon and whats filler.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Know what? heres a thought. how about we just enjoy the movie isntead of worrying about canonincity. we have a movie focusing on our favorite couple and showing them kicking butt and having romantic interactions.

366 pages in and were still mired in an argument about who wrote what and whats canon and whats filler.

I'm not arguing, but you are right. In the end, Kishi did it, NS shine many times, and looks like really good movie.

Btw, someone got caught in NF that the person changed his mind asap. I wonder why...

[AzureWaters]

The movie should be enjoyed by us, since it does have NaruSaku. Although I don't agree that it raises NaruSaku's chances in canon. Whether its directed by Kishi or not, it isn't the manga.
If you think this could foreshadow development than that's perfectly fine, but we shouldn't be making this more than what it is at the present time. Once something like this happens in a chapter, then that would be different.

Edited by AzureWaters, 19 March 2013 - 01:21 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

The movie should be enjoyed by us, since it does have NaruSaku. Although I don't agree that it raises NaruSaku's chances in canon. Whether its directed by Kishi or not, it isn't the manga.
If you think this could foreshadow development than that's perfectly fine, but we shouldn't be making this more than what it is at the present time. Once something like this happens in a chapter, then that would be different.

The thing about Road to Ninja is that's it's true meaning about NS being canon or not is up to interpretation. NaruSaku got a lot of focus and Kishi was behind it so though the movie isn't canon, he was behind what happened. If we want to argue it shows author intent, then we can. It's a perfectly acceptable argument that no one can really debunk.

But it goes both ways. It's possible that RtN was just fanservice for NS and has absolutely no merit on the canon pairing at all, for all we know Kishi could make NH canon still. This is also a argument that is acceptable, since we can't really debunk it without bias either.

But I chose to believe, based on Kishi's track record in the manga, that it's foreshadowing of NaruSaku development and implies it being canon. This is because of all the attention and teases it's gotten, much more than any other pairing. It just makes a lot more sense to me story-telling wise. Doesn't increase NS's chances? I humbly disagree with that. True, it's not manga which is the offical source but NaruSaku got a movie dedicated to it's interactions and "understanding each other" concept. Remember, author's intent. So it does increase NS's chances in my book, especially that MK/NS comparision in the 6th movie, but it's just my opinion.

[Strangelove]

Well if Kishimoto's intent was NH, then how come Real Hinata wasn't there with Naruto...I mean she is basically his stalker, she should have been the one that got dragged into the Alternate reality.

Edited by Strangelove, 19 March 2013 - 01:43 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The thing about Road to Ninja is that's it's true meaning about NS being canon or not is up to interpretation. NaruSaku got a lot of focus and Kishi was behind it so though the movie isn't canon, he was behind what happened. If we want to argue it shows author intent, then we can. It's a perfectly acceptable argument that no one can really debunk.

But it goes both ways. It's possible that RtN was just fanservice for NS and has absolutely no merit on the canon pairing at all, for all we know Kishi could make NH canon still. This is also a argument that is acceptable, since we can't really debunk it without bias either.

But I chose to believe, based on Kishi's track record in the manga, that it's foreshadowing of NaruSaku development and implies it being canon. This is because of all the attention and teases it's gotten, much more than any other pairing. It just makes a lot more sense to me story-telling wise. Doesn't increase NS's chances? I humbly disagree with that. True, it's not manga which is the offical source but NaruSaku got a movie dedicated to it's interactions and "understanding each other" concept. Remember, author's intent. So it does increase NS's chances in my book, especially that MK/NS comparision in the 6th movie, but it's just my opinion.

I'm with you there. That can be said for any other movies from the original author. To me, it makes me remember that NS is really than just "Hey, you're my love interest, so be my lover without going deep." It makes me remember the reason why I ship a pairing in the first place. I don't ship pairing, though I do like them and like to point out who's going who. But for this one, it feels like something special and well, here I am.

Well if Kishimoto's intent was NH, then how come Real Hinata wasn't there with Naruto...I mean she is basically his stalker, she should have been the one that got dragged into the Alternate reality.

That's hilariously true.

[merryGOflava]

why would kishi waste his first movie making experience appealing to a ship that isn't gonna happen?

(thats to the assumption: that he only did narusaku in the movie because it's not gonna happen in the manga)

[Don-kun]

Know what? heres a thought. how about we just enjoy the movie isntead of worrying about canonincity. we have a movie focusing on our favorite couple and showing them kicking butt and having romantic interactions.

366 pages in and were still mired in an argument about who wrote what and whats canon and whats filler.

Completely agree with this, the movie was meant to be enjoy by all NS fans.

The movie should be enjoyed by us, since it does have NaruSaku. Although I don't agree that it raises NaruSaku's chances in canon. Whether its directed by Kishi or not, it isn't the manga.
If you think this could foreshadow development than that's perfectly fine, but we shouldn't be making this more than what it is at the present time. Once something like this happens in a chapter, then that would be different.

I also agree with this, the movie did not increase NS chance or decrease it since we believe in NS mostly because of their development and things that are still open to debate in the Manga, but right now we have to accept that pairing wise the Manga is kind of letting our throats kind of dry from the NS drought in the Manga.

Well if Kishimoto's intent was NH, then how come Real Hinata wasn't there with Naruto...I mean she is basically his stalker, she should have been the one that got dragged into the Alternate reality.

This is a great point since Kishi could do whatever he wanted in the Movie with out it seems odd since it was a AU universe, he could even add Hinata instead of Sakura, he could focus on NH with a this bold Hinata since there was no excuse for Naruto not to notice her or be dense about anything with her, he could also allow Sakura to tell Hinata that there wasn't anything between her and Naruto but he didn't
SS Sasuke was open for a relationship but what Kishi did instead, focus on Naruto and Sakura's bond, made Sakura acknowledge the fact that she made a error with Sasuke and give her the understanding that Naruto is truly the one on her side and the one she can always count on something that in many ways is a big plus for NS.

The only negative part about this is that there isn't any fallow up in the Manga where it really counts, while Kishi keep allowing the NH and SS fans to keep ignoring and downplaying so many NS events in the manga, even when they are justify because Kishi is doing the same by keeping Naruto and Sakura away from each other.

why would kishi waste his first movie making experience appealing to a ship that isn't gonna happen?

(thats to the assumption: that he only did narusaku in the movie because it's not gonna happen in the manga)

Because it's a silly excuse created by some who try to find any possible way to lessen the blow created by this movie, this movie was meant to be Kishi's way of showing the readers what will be the future couple of the Manga, by showing that deep down Sasuke haves feelings for Sakura and how Hinata and Naruto relationship will develop.

Edited by Don-kun, 19 March 2013 - 02:20 AM.

[kirabook]

They are canon once they are in a mutual romantic relationship, which they aren't in the manga. They can't be canon if they aren't together. Yes, this movie reinforces the idea and belief that Kishi will make NS canon in the END, but Naruto and Sakura are still mid journey in the manga canon. Their relationship isn't canon and I don't think we should go around saying it is.

Either way, rejoicing is good. It means more fanart/gifs/general material to make interesting things of (videos). Hey, maybe some one will make an interesting AU fic (with the parents! 8D) based on this movie.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

They are canon once they are in a mutual romantic relationship, which they aren't in the manga. They can't be canon if they aren't together. Yes, this movie reinforces the idea and belief that Kishi will make NS canon in the END, but Naruto and Sakura are still mid journey in the manga canon. Their relationship isn't canon and I don't think we should go around saying it is.

Either way, rejoicing is good. It means more fanart/gifs/general material to make interesting things of (videos). Hey, maybe some one will make an interesting AU fic (with the parents! 8D) based on this movie.

Agreed 100%. NaruSaku isn't canon, but if we like, we can argue that it's chances of happening increased through this movie because of author's intent. That's good enough for me. After all, the manga is the most important.

I really can't wait to watch NaruSaku AMVs with the Road to Ninja scenes. I've seen so many gifs lately on tumblr, I'd love to see an AMV now!

[Gravenimage]

some people here are saying it's just fanservice after all and to not take it too seriously.

Wish the manga could follow up on this and we can get those juicy NS moments, we've been waiting for years.

Two words: author's intent" the movie is Kishi taking an alternate route from the current manga story line but making it shorter obviously. I can say it's canon from Kishi's perspective but not canon in general with the manga. Still it's enough the story and the movie was directed by Kishi it goes to show you yet again that he supports NS.

[FrenchMyToast]

I love that this shows that Kishi is serious about the NS bond. Yeah, of course, it's definitely not canon yet, but no pairing is. At least Kishi is shutting the door on that whole NaruHina = MinaKushi argument and cementing that NS = MK. And I understand that this movie came out last year in Japan, but if Kishi wanted NH to become official I would think that he would try to fit in NH moments everywhere possible. Including the one movie he directly worked on. I mean really, NH doesn't have too much, so if he gave them a movie it would at least boost their chances to some degree. But no, he goes the NaruSaku route.

On a side note, I only skimmed the movie. I saw the badass Sakura scenes and all, but I'm saving most of it for when it's got subtitles.

[archangel]

I love that this shows that Kishi is serious about the NS bond. Yeah, of course, it's definitely not canon yet, but no pairing is. At least Kishi is shutting the door on that whole NaruHina = MinaKushi argument and cementing that NS = MK. And I understand that this movie came out last year in Japan, but if Kishi wanted NH to become official I would think that he would try to fit in NH moments everywhere possible. Including the one movie he directly worked on. I mean really, NH doesn't have too much, so if he gave them a movie it would at least boost their chances to some degree. But no, he goes the NaruSaku route.

On a side note, I only skimmed the movie. I saw the badass Sakura scenes and all, but I'm saving most of it for when it's got subtitles.

I can agree with you more. In my book, a movie directly having kishi work on and showing support for narusaku might not be canon, bu show where the author intend to go. Not the first movie it happen either(3rd movie too). The manga and the 3rd movie(didn't see road to ninja so not gonna talk about it) imply that Sakura have feeling for Naruto but not fully realize it yet, (blushing and Naruto mess up, circumstance that Naruto never there and a 3rd person imply it).

Out of subject:P (By the end of the manga.she need to overcome her feeling for sasuke 1st, which to me since Sasuke gone really deep in darkness is the biggest obstacle she must overcome(Just like Naruto but not on the same level) . We don't see her much in the war but I think the whole love letter scene is a beginning to her eye opening that Sasuke is not the guy she loves. Especially after the guy use to describe the man who got her affection(that don't fit the image of Sasuke in her mind at all, but would have fit Naruto to perfectly)

[PhenixElite]

The movie should be enjoyed by us, since it does have NaruSaku. Although I don't agree that it raises NaruSaku's chances in canon. Whether its directed by Kishi or not, it isn't the manga.
If you think this could foreshadow development than that's perfectly fine, but we shouldn't be making this more than what it is at the present time. Once something like this happens in a chapter, then that would be different.

I also agree with this, the movie did not increase NS chance or decrease it since we believe in NS mostly because of their development and things that are still open to debate in the Manga, but right now we have to accept that pairing wise the Manga is kind of letting our throats kind of dry from the NS drought in the Manga.

I dissagree with the statement that this movie didnt increase the chance of NS becoming canon. First of all this movie shows kishis intention, that said he could have also made the movie without any romantic moments between naruto and sakura. So some people now like to say that he has done this because of fanservice, but seem to forget that this movie indeed includes a NS supporting canon fact, the MinaKushi and also Kushina Sakura parallel.

This parallel is strongly NS supporting in the manga, and Kishi pretty much confirmed this parallel with the help of the current movie. So i indeed see that as increasing the cances of NS becoming canon.

[soraandven]

624 is out

[AzureWaters]

I dissagree with the statement that this movie didnt increase the chance of NS becoming canon. First of all this movie shows kishis intention, that said he could have also made the movie without any romantic moments between naruto and sakura. So some people now like to say that he has done this because of fanservice, but seem to forget that this movie indeed includes a NS supporting canon fact, the MinaKushi and also Kushina Sakura parallel.

This parallel is strongly NS supporting in the manga, and Kishi pretty much confirmed this parallel with the help of the current movie. So i indeed see that as increasing the cances of NS becoming canon.

That's jumping the gun. The reason I say it doesn't increase its chances is because the development seen in the movie hasn't currently happened in the manga. With it being in theatres last year, we've seen what the chapters have to offer after that, and there hasn't been much NaruSaku. I'll change my tune if/when there's a pairing moment between the two.

I don't think that's too unreasonable.

[PhenixElite]

That's jumping the gun. The reason I say it doesn't increase its chances is because the development seen in the movie hasn't currently happened in the manga. With it being in theatres last year, we've seen what the chapters have to offer after that, and there hasn't been much NaruSaku. I'll change my tune if/when there's a pairing moment between the two.

I don't think that's too unreasonable.

As said nothing needs to happen yet in the manga for the movie to increase the chances since it fist of all shows kishis intentions about NS and also has something that can be taken as canon proof (parallel between Kushina and sakura). Just remember kushinas words.

It would be an asspull if kishi shows sakura similar to kushina in the manga and even confirms this in his movie, just to make it meaningless in the manga later. Kushinas words are very supporting for NS, and the movie puts sakura as the one kushina ment with her dying words to naruto.

[kirabook]

It didn't truly increase the chances of becoming canon because the movie events did not happen in the manga. Are any events that happen outside of manga canon relevant to the events in manga canon? Not at all.

Yes, you can predict that this movie proves Kishi's intentions of making NS canon in the end, but in no way did this movie make manga Naruto and manga Sakura closer or make their relationship more romantic.

[PhenixElite]

It didn't truly increase the chances of becoming canon because the movie events did not happen in the manga. Are any events that happen outside of manga canon relevant to the events in manga canon? Not at all.

Yes, you can predict that this movie proves Kishi's intentions of making NS canon in the end, but in no way did this movie make manga Naruto and manga Sakura closer or make their relationship more romantic.

If it is like that, tell me why kishi showed sakura similar to kushina as well as NS in similar situations as MK?
Just for fanservice, if the manga also shows kushina beeing a parallel to Sakura? I guess not.
We know what kushina told naruto before she died and this movie again showed how similar kushina is to sakura.

If it wasnt made by kishi, then yeah it means nothing, but its made by him. It didnt bring naruto and sakura closer in the manga, but it indeed serves as forshadowing and shows his intentions, hence increasing their chances of becoming canon.

Edited by PhenixElite, 19 March 2013 - 02:46 PM.