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[Fenris]

Yay for the stupid ass filler ending. Sasuke holding Sakuras hand. Total BS.
Can someone make me feel better with the whole NS stuff? I feel like crap.
It does not make sense at all to have NS centric flashbacks and then have SS holding hands at the end.

I give up on faith in the majority of the Pierot team.

Edited by Fenris, 01 December 2011 - 04:08 PM.

[Don-kun]

I am a NS shipper and I think Sakura will question Naruto about Hinata, if this happens I am not the Mangaka but by reading this Manga for so long and if Kishi stay true to Naruto's feelings, I can only see this scenario.

Sakura To Naruto: you know about Hinata what about her Feelings "What's about Hinata?"

Naruto: "Huh? What's about Hinata?" What you mean Sakura chan?

with a surprise look.

"Hinata has always loved you, from far back when all of us used to look down on you. She has always treated you right. She's very beautiful, kind, sweet, strong, and she did not think one minute about sacrificing herself for you during the Pein fight…So, why?"

Naruto last replay

Naruto: "Because I don't lie to myself, Sakura chan.
"About Hinata…I'm really happy that a girl like Hinata has such feelings for me, and I truly regret that I can't give her what she wants.'' I'm not in love with her, I have high respect for her, for the person she is, but I don't love her that way. It would be unfair to both of we if I get with her, feeling the way he do. It would be out of obligation, and she deserves much better than that."

Naruto hate people who lie to themselves right what will that make Naruto?
(knowing that he wish one day Sakura could return his feeling but at the same time he knows Sakura like someone els and he respect that, he is trying to earn Sakura's Love the right way. By always been there for her, been her best friend, support her in her difficult times, and earn the title of the person she can rely on, and trust completely.)

I cannot say the same thing about Hinata and the way she approach Naruto. if she been watching him all this years she most know that he like Sakura she should anilyze or question his real feeling for Sakura that way Naruto would know that she really care about him and she is willing to sacrifice her own feelings for his happeness o try to earn his love Naruto will be awere, you see right there is a big difference between NS and NH and the biggest factor for them is also the mutual development between Naruto and Hinata. they don't have much panel time and a real understanding to form a relationship the couple is really cute but nothing els.

That's way many thing Sakura will return Naruto's feeling, it's because of the way he is trying to win her heart, by been selfless at all cost and Kishi has presented this to all his reader (selfish love vs. Selfless love)

Hinata is a wanderfull character like many others, but for me the only great thing about her is that she is nice, lovely, and sweet but not because of that I will down play how Naruto feel about her or try to forze a relationship between them it doesn't work that way.

If I'm honest with my self and true Naruto fan and ask myself this questions I will say

-Is Hinata the best person for Naruto? Yes she always admire him and like him.

-Is Sakura good for Naruto? Yes she change alot she did a total 180 from total hating Naruto to deep caring that says alot my friends.

-Will it be nice for Naruto is Sakura return his feeling? Yes after all what he has done for her and his selfless love.

-Will it be nice for Hinata is Naruto return her feelings? already expline why he will not lie to him self he like some one els.

-Will it be nice for Sakura is Sasuke return her feelings? No self respect.

-Will it be nice is Sakura love Naruto Back? her feelings or him are still unknown

-Is Hinata the person Naruto wish to be love by? No there is another girl in his heart.

-Is this story about Hinata and her dreams, Sakura and her dreams, or Naruto and his dreams? It's about Naruto.

NH vs. NS
NH is out of the blue to be honest and more about Hinata, NS is not is about Naruto and Sakura unknown feelings.

Because Sakura's behavior towars Naruto many has question her real feeling for him what Sakura really feel for Naruto but the answer is still unknown. Chapter 289 and 297.

No one has question Naruto's feelings for Hinata and why is that? because there is nothing to question he always been normal around her.
It's not the Same with Sakura chapter 457.


Many down play that alot because they love Hinata, Sasuke or other characters, and it's not bad to love other character it's ok, but it's bad to put Naruto 2nd he always come first the story is about him and what he want, not what the others want or what we think is better for him.

We all know that in Naruto's heart there is Sasuke his best friend and brother bond, Sakura his best friend and first and only crush, Kakashi Naruto Sensei. Team 7 bond is Naruto number one priority in this Manga. Hinata is not even and Naruto's top fifteen closest or important person, and neither the main character.

[Anguyen92]

Yep, that's a tough one to take, Fenris, but, you know, I would advise you to just stay away from youtube and tumbler for like a few days until the heat wears off on the release of the episode, and just know that its a filler and that Sai is absolutely 100%, without a shot of doubt, in full support for NS.

Sure he probably did put a little speed bump in their path, from the time approaching the confession to this stage in the manga, maybe he's the one that can subtly right this ship, like somehow nudge Naruto and Sakura into having that conversation with each other, only one on one, and only about themselves, with no interference whatsoever. Can Kishi give at least that?

Edited by Anguyen92, 01 December 2011 - 04:16 PM.

[Fenris]

Yep, that's a tough one to take, Fenris, but, you know, I would advise you to just stay away from youtube and tumbler for like a few days until the heat wears off on the release of the episode, and just know that its a filler and that Sai is absolutely 100%, without a shot of doubt, in full support for NS.

Sure he probably did put a little speed bump in their path, from the time approaching the confession to this stage in the manga, maybe he's the one that can subtle right this ship, like somehow nudge Naruto and Sakura into having that conversation with each other, only one on one, and only about themselves, with no interference whatsoever. Can Kishi give at least that?

I agree. It's just so idiotic of Pierot to do this to us just after a filler of saying he's going to try his best to win Sakura over and with the whole filler girl thing: "Will you tell the girl you love her when you get back to your village?" Ugh. It makes no sense.

I'm probably going to take your advice, though, but the only thing with youtube is I'm going to spam the hell out of it with NS videos.

I do know that Sai is 100% without a doubt supporting NS, though. And tell me, does this make any sense of Pierot? Sai does not know Sasuke at all besides that one meeting that time, and Sasuke was a total prick to him. So how would he know, guess, or even imagine, without any observation at all - that Sasuke even came close to liking Sakura? Because Sasuke doesn't. He doesn't like her, and I really don't get this whole deep emotional secret bond they have with eachother that all the SS fans say they have. "Sasuke would be deeply hurt if he lost her."

Kage Summit Arc.

SS Pwned.



As much as it'd hurt her, I hope whenever they meet up again, Sasuke says something liek: "I never liked you, you annoying ____" Sure it'd hurt her, but it's what she needs to snap her out of it -__-

Edited by Fenris, 01 December 2011 - 04:20 PM.

[Anguyen92]

I'm probably going to take your advice, though, but the only thing with youtube is I'm going to spam the hell out of it with NS videos.

I do know that Sai is 100% without a doubt supporting NS, though. And tell me, does this make any sense of Pierot? Sai does not know Sasuke at all besides that one meeting that time, and Sasuke was a total prick to him. So how would he know, guess, or even imagine, without any observation at all - that Sasuke even came close to liking Sakura? Because Sasuke doesn't. He doesn't like her, and I really don't get this whole deep emotional secret bond they have with eachother that all the SS fans say they have. "Sasuke would be deeply hurt if he lost her."

As much as it'd hurt her, I hope whenever they meet up again, Sasuke says something liek: "I never liked you, you annoying ____" Sure it'd hurt her, but it's what she needs to snap her out of it -__-

All right, fair enough, for the first bolded, I just hope that they don't post in the comments about any crap, or at best, you write in the description that you don't post any bashing in the comments of any kind.

As for the rest, I was thinking about the whole what does Sai know about Sasuke and Sakura's dynamic in his POV. As for the 2nd bolded, the whole would be deeply hurt if he lost her, I agree with you that I don't agree with that statement. The one person that would more hurt than anyone else would be Naruto, but of course, Sakura is not the one going down, so obviously, we don't think like that much or at all.

Edited by Anguyen92, 01 December 2011 - 04:28 PM.

[Don-kun]

Yay for the stupid ass filler ending. Sasuke holding Sakuras hand. Total BS.
Can someone make me feel better with the whole NS stuff? I feel like crap.
It does not make sense at all to have NS centric flashbacks and then have SS holding hands at the end.

I give up on faith in the majority of the Pierot team.

Pierot team right they are playing Devil but don't worry the question you should ask yourself.
why pierot make a Naruto and Hinata centric episode, but not a Sasuke towars Sakura episode niether a Sakura towars Sasuke after he try to kill her? because it will destroy the pairing

Look at the low amount of NS filler vs. NH SS the already make it clear to the audience in the filler that Sakura like Naruto and Naruto love Sakura.
We win the other pairing in filler, movies and we beat them by far in the manga canon.

[Fenris]

You guys are right. I guess I overreacted a bit.
I didn't really take the time to consider that we have so much above the opposite fandoms. Like, so much!
Especially Yamatos unfinished sentence, the hug scene, the parallels, Sakuras worry for Naruto, the land of waves arc where she realizes she's developed feelings for Naruto that she cannot yet reconize, the fanbooks.. Everything, and so much more.

Edited by Fenris, 01 December 2011 - 06:16 PM.

[T XD]

Look at the low amount of NS filler vs. NH SS the already make it clear to the audience in the filler that Sakura like Naruto and Naruto love Sakura.
We win the other pairing in filler, movies and we beat them by far in the manga canon.

yup my exact thought, they are making a low amount by making a hint to show us a part of the ending.
but here's something i have it always in my mind, do you think kishi will leave us on a cliffhanger ( i don't know if it is the right word actually ) for the couple thing, like there is no couples at the end and he will leave it to our own imagination for what he could had meant ?

[Fenris]

yup my exact thought, they are making a low amount by making a hint to show us a part of the ending.
but here's something i have it always in my mind, do you think kishi will leave us on a cliffhanger ( i don't know if it is the right word actually ) for the couple thing, like there is no couples at the end and he will leave it to our own imagination for what he could had meant ?

Eh, I don't think so. There's been too much development for it not to be settled finally. It ain't a movie (Like say, The Children 2008, it was left to be under your own imagination: whether she got sick from the virus or not, or she was just traumatized. The way it ended either could of happened.) I don't think a manga would end like that... it'd be too disappointing for the readers.

Edited by Fenris, 01 December 2011 - 06:22 PM.

[T XD]

Eh, I don't think so. There's been too much development for it not to be settled finally. It ain't a movie (Like say, The Children 2008, it was left to be under your own imagination: whether she got sick from the virus or not, or she was just traumatized. The way it ended either could of happened.) I don't think a manga would end like that... it'd be too disappointing for the readers.

i thought the same thing but then i have said to myself:"well, what if he wanted to do this, he's the writer after all ". but yeah you are right, after all this development it would be disappointing to end like this

[Fenris]

Thought it was debateable:

''The pairing in my opinion with the least chemistry is NaruSaku. Naruto had a crush on her in the beginning of course, but she has never felt anything more than a brotherly/sisterly relationship with him if you pay attention. As they grew older, he realized it was a waste of time to go after her, even though she did confess she loved him. Naruto knew she was just saying that, that her heart was still with someone else.

I could never see this pairing going anywhere, they both would end up unhappy if it was to happen.''

[T XD]

''The pairing in my opinion with the least chemistry is NaruSaku. Naruto had a crush on her in the beginning of course, but she has never felt anything more than a brotherly/sisterly relationship with him if you pay attention. As they grew older, he realized it was a waste of time to go after her, even though she did confess she loved him. Naruto knew she was just saying that, that her heart was still with someone else.

I could never see this pairing going anywhere, they both would end up unhappy if it was to happen

???
i have no comment when someone talk like this , i think this statement that i now made is understandable

Edited by T XD, 02 December 2011 - 07:24 AM.

[Anguyen92]

Thought it was debateable:

''The pairing in my opinion with the least chemistry is NaruSaku. Naruto had a crush on her in the beginning of course, but she has never felt anything more than a brotherly/sisterly relationship with him if you pay attention. As they grew older, he realized it was a waste of time to go after her, even though she did confess she loved him. Naruto knew she was just saying that, that her heart was still with someone else.

I could never see this pairing going anywhere, they both would end up unhappy if it was to happen.''

Hmmmm, well, I guess to a certain extent there is some sort of truth to this. My only question to that comment is on how does he feel right now in the timeline? He still loves her, and that 235 filler reinforces it. Even though its filler, its probably still safe to assume that he is still in love with her and is still want to do his best to win her over even if he thinks its still a long shot with or without Sakura "loving" Sasuke. Besides, if Naruto does not want to win over Sakura, then who does he want to win over? Besides, I think there are numerous occasions and moments where she does feels the same way and that eventually, she will return those feelings that Naruto has given her, for 100% real.

But the whole both would be unhappy, I, of course, doubt that. If Naruto and Sakura can't make each other happy, then who can make them happy? And no, I don't think that its Hinata and Sasuke with all due respect.

I just don't get it. They want Naruhina and Sasusaku which probably doesn't make sense in personality and development, and they deny probably the only pairing that does make sense in like everything (personality, interaction, development, and I see a good future between NaruSaku). That's probably another thing, do they see a good future in Naruhina and Sasusaku that benefits everyone, all sides, no one gets the, what I call, butt-end of it where they regret being with that person? And if so, I want to know why.

Edited by Anguyen92, 01 December 2011 - 07:47 PM.

[T XD]

That's probably another thing, do they see a good future in Naruhina and Sasusaku that benefits everyone, all sides, no one gets the, what I call, butt-end of it where they regret being with that person? And if so, I want to know why.

from what i know and experienced, some of them have reasons of their own that they hold on to no matter what .

[LegendaryArcanine42]

Guys... Please go into the comments section of this Youtube Video where I'm doing battle with a rabid NaruHina fan...

(This is not bashing btw, I'm stating a fact here... I just wanted people to comment on this person's views...)

The Video + The Details --Click here to view--

Me=densetsuhadouken116 (my commenting account)
NH Fan= Midnight-Twilight or something...

[Fenris]

Guys... Please go into the comments section of this Youtube Video where I'm doing battle with a rabid NaruHina fan...

(This is not bashing btw, I'm stating a fact here... I just wanted people to comment on this person's views...)

The Video + The Details --Click here to view--

Me=densetsuhadouken116 (my commenting account)
NH Fan= Midnight-Twilight or something...

I' helping ya. I'm xwolfeh426x Boy they are rabid..

Edited by Fenris, 01 December 2011 - 10:01 PM.

[LegendaryArcanine42]

I' helping ya. I'm xwolfeh426x Boy they are rabid..

Ikr? This guy got so angry with me, that I kinda had to get in his face too...

I really didn't want too either

[LegendaryArcanine42]

For the sake of double posting... It's really nice to have a debate with an actual NaruHina fan, it gives me a chance to exercise my NaruSaku muscles

[Fyuria'sLeo]

LA no double posting. Just edit your last post.

Edited by Fyuria'sLeo, 01 December 2011 - 10:57 PM.

[Fliss]

That's why I never comment on a NaruHina video xD

It's an awesome amv, though.