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[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, that scarf is only valid in winter. Unless you're doing Sakura in Summer, Fall, and Spring, and Hinata in Winter, this shouldn't be game changers.

Just saying.

[luffyq1]

No if ns didnt happen it would be both their faults (depending on the circumstances of course) but if sakura choses sasuke that would make me think less of sakura. (But dont worry ill still love her). But if naruto ends up w/ hinata id feel the same.

thank you for seeing it both ways. 

[Slextrem]

that idea really disgusts me.

 

So if NH happened in The Last it would be based on a made up childhood flashback that was never implied in the manga?

 

Nope, sorry, I just can't take bullsh** like that seriously.

 

If the purpose of the flashback is just so that Naruto can encourage Hinata (for the umpteen time) then I get it. That would mean is just a closed event exclusive to the movie. But having a couple become canon in a movie is an event that would have ramification for the future, which is something I cannot accept.

 

Game changers like that shouldn't be done in the movie. The manga deserves that right.

 

The movie is supposed to be about Hinata's feelings reaching Naruto, so it makes sense to me that they would include the reason why she fell in love with him. It's just unfortunate that the moment appears to be based off of something fabricated from the studio, and not from Kishimoto. I actually see that as more reassurance that the film won't be about NH's road to canon, but rather Hinata finding closure. As you said, it doesn't make sense for something like this to be left in the movie but not included in the manga.

 

 

Oh god no offense but i really hope your wrong

 

I understand how you feel, but don't think I am. It makes more sense to me if the scene is about Hinata's reason for loving Naruto because the movie is all about her feelings. Why would she like him and want to give him a scarf because of a memory she has of him yelling at her and making her cry? Doesn't it make more sense that she would want to replace the scarf that he lost when he protected her?

 

hmm seems plausible

 

I think so.

Edited by Slextrem, 03 November 2014 - 05:42 PM.

[NSmakessense]

So if NH happened in The Last it would be based on a made up childhood flashback that was never implied in the manga?

 

Nope, sorry, I just can't take bullsh** like that seriously.

 

If the purpose of the flashback is just so that Naruto can encourage Hinata (for the umpteen time) then I get it. That would mean is just a closed event exclusive to the movie. But having a couple become canon in a movie is an event that would have ramification for the future, which is something I cannot accept.

 

Game changers like that shouldn't be done in the movie. The manga deserves that right.

Couldn't have said it better

[Ether]

There's no reason to hate Sakura if SS happens, she's not even real. lol

By that logic there's no reason to like her either, since she's fictional. I guess we should all be fine with NH/SS too, since it's fiction.

 

You know, that's the exact argument SS fans use to "defend" their pairing.

Edited by Ether, 03 November 2014 - 05:42 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
 
 
The movie is supposed to be about Hinata's feelings reaching Naruto, so it makes sense to me that they would include the reason why she fell in love with him. It's just unfortunate that the moment appears to be based off of something fabricated from the studio, and no included in the canon. I actually see that as more reassurance that the film won't be about NH's road to canon, but rather Hinata finding closure. As you said, it doesn't make sense for something like this to be left in the movie but not included in the manga.

It feels like a non-canon story, not filler but based on canon universe. Think as RtN, only here you can find a timeline since it's literally after the war. It is more about Hinata than Naruto, even with that CD cover. Naruto's role isn't exposed yet but maybe because his role is as much as any other movies that don't have him developed, like RtN. That's why I kept asking what's his role, but ironically, people fixated only on Hinata. I mean in the trailer, you got the closure inbound for Hinata while Naruto does his usual thing: friendship.

But who knows. I find the timing funny with Sasuke being revealed that he acknowledged Naruto when the chapter was released along with it.

[Nostradamus]

No. We'd hate Naruto because he hands waives mass murders away with a smile.

Yeah but the majority of people that read/follow Naruto don't really care about that.

The only with that matters are the pairings.

Naruto saying that Obito is a cool guy and let's Sasuke walk the world free. Who cares? It's just water under the bridge.

Naruto rejecting Hinata's wonderful feelings. All hell breaks loose.

Unfortunately it's the true.

[natalieuciha]

and no one would hate naruto if he doesn't end up with sakura. it'll be all sakura's fault because of reasons.

why should i hate on him if ns doesnt becomes canon?first of all if ns doesnt bbecomes canon its  because of sakura (she still loves sasuke) so what should naruto do in these circumstances?should he mourn and cry and be a lonely wolf for the rest of his life?shouldnt he move on?..also,sakura choosing sasuke or still having feelings for sasuke after all this time she spent with naruto,and after all these oportunities she had to realise her feelings for him makes it all her fault for ns not happening...naruto might still have feelings for her at this point ,but after 2 years later still chasing after the same girl who doesnt have feelings for him seems rather unrealistic doesnt it?..id be more happy for him if he moves on ,but not happy if he chooses hinata though....if he ends up with ino i wont mind

[NarutoUzumaki01]

By that logic there's no reason to like her either, since she's fictional. I guess we should all be fine with NH/SS too, since it's fiction.

Then you shouldn't worry about manga in any way, it's fiction 

[Nefertieh]

 
 
The movie is supposed to be about Hinata's feelings reaching Naruto, so it makes sense to me that they would include the reason why she fell in love with him. It's just unfortunate that the moment appears to be based off of something fabricated from the studio, and no included in the canon. I actually see that as more reassurance that the film won't be about NH's road to canon, but rather Hinata finding closure. As you said, it doesn't make sense for something like this to be left in the movie but not included in the manga.

Kishimoto wrote this movie, just like RtN. Except he's stated explicitly that this movie is part of the manga universe. It's a retcon, but still canon.

[Slextrem]

It feels like a non-canon story, not filler but based on canon universe. Think as RtN, only here you can find a timeline since it's literally after the war. It is more about Hinata than Naruto, even with that CD cover. Naruto's role isn't exposed yet but maybe because his role is as much as any other movies that don't have him developed, like RtN. That's why I kept asking what's his role, but ironically, people fixated only on Hinata. I mean in the trailer, you got the closure inbound for Hinata while Naruto does his usual thing: friendship.

But who knows. I find the timing funny with Sasuke being revealed that he acknowledged Naruto when the chapter was released along with it.

 

I agree - the film seems to be entirely Hinata-centric. I think it's meant to give closure to her feelings, as that wasn't important enough to be covered in the manga itself.

[NSmakessense]

Yeah but the majority of people that read/follow Naruto don't really care about that.

The only with that matters are the pairings.

Naruto saying that Obito is a cool guy and let's Sasuke walk the world free. Who cares? It's just water under the bridge.

Naruto rejecting Hinata's wonderful feelings. All hell breaks loose.

Unfortunately it's the true.

I think this is an exaggeration. I believe a lot of people don't give much thought into pairings, and even if they do, some still discuss sh*tty stuff in the manga. I know that because I do it with some of my friends, whether NH or NS fans, in which the pairings aren't even mentioned in the talk normally.

Edited by NSmakessense, 03 November 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[FireFox]

 

 

 

The movie is supposed to be about Hinata's feelings reaching Naruto, so it makes sense to me that they would include the reason why she fell in love with him. It's just unfortunate that the moment appears to be based off of something fabricated from the studio, and no included in the canon. I actually see that as more reassurance that the film won't be about NH's road to canon, but rather Hinata finding closure. As you said, it doesn't make sense for something like this to be left in the movie but not included in the manga.

I thought she already gave the reason in her "confession"  so why change it completely   Sure it goes against NH bc it needs to happen the opposite like Hinata defending Naruto  as a means of him getting an epiphany or something like that for him to realize that he has feelings for her since the beginning  so this shuts down Nh and this scene completely  .

 

Either way I don't think that's the case and I think he's yelling at her for stalking but not saying a word to him  I think that offended Naruto  also I don't see any bullies in here or like Nauro has gotten himself into a fight . 

 

Just to add this filler so BS F U SP so much  .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 November 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[ALEX SENJU]

Aha no probs Elmas There's a swing there so maybe Hinata wanted to go up and talk to him but Naruto took it as someone just staring at him again. It'd make sense since Naruto looks so mad and Hinata on the verge of tears

Hinata looks cute too! I wonder why SP decided to make Hinata look a little different. Hopefully we'll get her, Sasuke, kakashi, and hanabi's sketch this week. Choji and Ino look different too.

Watch her look different in the sketches

I agree, thats exactly what i think happens

[TsukiChan ♥]

Besides NaruSaku, well maybe ShikaTema but I don't like it much...

That's all.

 

There is nothing between Chouji and Ino.

 

haaaaate when people pair them :/

 

Even in Mugen Tsukuyomi - Ino wanted Sai/Sasuke for herself, Choji - random girl.

 

Ikr!

 

and also, no offense to Temari but...she's rarely even in the manga and like 3 years older than Shikamaru..I don't get why people ship them...like I prefer shikaino way more than shikatema honestly

 

lol even the animators want the same thing...thats probably why Temari isn't even animated yet for the movie

 

Also, sometimes I feel like shikaino almost parallels with narusaku, there was implications back in part 1 where Shikamaru was jealous of Sasuke and Chouji hinted he might have actually liked Ino..and being his best friend, he probably was aware of that..even telling Shikamaru unnecessarily that he thought he was cooler than Sasuke, a guy he knows Ino liked

 

I'm sure Ino was a very popular girl at the academy and very pretty too

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I agree - the film seems to be entirely Hinata-centric. I think it's meant to give closure to her feelings, as that wasn't important enough to be covered in the manga itself.

I think it's one of those "it's not that important to main plot, so I will do it elsewhere." Kishi did one for RtN, because even though it's a nice feel moment, it doesn't reflect that much of a plot. I mean yeah, character developed, but not groundbreaking, not Sasuke chapter 698 moment. It's just what it is.

[luffyq1]

why should i hate on him if ns doesnt becomes canon?first of all if ns doesnt bbecomes canon its  because of sakura (she still loves sasuke) so what should naruto do in these circumstances?should he mourn and cry and be a lonely wolf for the rest of his life?shouldnt he move on?..also,sakura choosing sasuke or still having feelings for sasuke after all this time she spent with naruto,and after all these oportunities she had to realise her feelings for him makes it all her fault for ns not happening...naruto might still have feelings for her at this point ,but after 2 years later still chasing after the same girl who doesnt have feelings for him seems rather unrealistic doesnt it?..id be more happy for him if he moves on ,but not happy if he chooses hinata though....if he ends up with ino i wont mind

so any circumstance that doesn't make ns happen, will be sakura's fault? ok. she's under obligation to return his feelings, got it. 

[Ether]

Then you shouldn't worry about manga in any way, it's fiction 

I was being sarcastic. There's no difference between feeling positive emotions and negative emotions towards fictional stuff.

 

So the "it's fiction" argument to justify not hating is stupid.

Edited by Ether, 03 November 2014 - 05:48 PM.

[redragon88]

By that logic there's no reason to like her either, since she's fictional. I guess we should all be fine with NH/SS too, since it's fiction.

 

You know, that's the exact argument SS fans use to "defend" their pairing.

 

Good job at cutting part of my post. I guess that's the only way you can argue your point.

 

And no, there's no reason to like her either. She's made up. What we like and dislike is the way the author has portrayed her in the story.

 

So the like or dislike of how a character is done is always connected to how it's creator chooses to show it.

[Nefertieh]

It feels like a non-canon story, not filler but based on canon universe. Think as RtN, only here you can find a timeline since it's literally after the war. It is more about Hinata than Naruto, even with that CD cover. Naruto's role isn't exposed yet but maybe because his role is as much as any other movies that don't have him developed, like RtN. That's why I kept asking what's his role, but ironically, people fixated only on Hinata. I mean in the trailer, you got the closure inbound for Hinata while Naruto does his usual thing: friendship.

Naruto has two confirmed lines so far. One was about having friends was what he realized was important (probably to the main villain), the other one was "wait for me, I have something important to tell you", to Hinata. Probably just before she gets kidnapped. .-.