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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:36 AM

lols my fault hope I didn't insult where you from . 

Nah, don't worry. ^_^

 

haha...hmmm I'll take that as a compliment :))

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:44 AM

 

 

Hehe why :P?

cause I'm not a dutch but it seemed I am because of the "wherein" and I think that's cool... :)) nah, forget it! haha



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:48 AM

^guys please this is turning like a chat, there are PMs for these things.


 
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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:54 AM

^guys please this is turning like a chat, there are PMs for these things.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:05 AM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:45 AM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

Impossible.

Would not only be incosistent but would go against the development he give to Sakura and more importantly, the reality checks and those stuff would be nothing.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:08 AM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

As impossible as it sounds there might be a chance lol. Sasuke is Kishi's favourite after all. Just look at all the asspulls and OP powers the Uchiha people get. Plus like somebody said Sasuke changes his thoughts/personality according to the story plotline, so its not very hard to imagine Kishi will continue doing that.

But of course I'd like her to end up with Naruto, lol.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:11 AM

As impossible as it sounds there might be a chance lol. Sasuke is Kishi's favourite after all. Just look at all the asspulls and OP powers the Uchiha people get.

But of course I'd like her to end up with Naruto, lol.

What SS has to do with Sasuke being Kishi's favourite.

Despite being his favourite he made Sasuke barely kill Sakura 2-3 times and always treated her bad when she showed concern over him.

All the development he gave to her was for her to move on, (Reality checks, Naruto loving her and Sasuke's bad actions towards her).

The fact is for me it's impossible for him to ress SS without pratically raping his own story.

(heck even on his own Movie (RTN) he still portraited SS as being bad)


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:15 AM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

i don't think so too



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

 

SS changes to be reedemed would only be at the end. Wouldn't be something new for them that's where they believe SS will happen anyway.

 

Unfortunately for SS to happen Naruto would have to die. That's SS only way of happening Naruto dies when Sasuke is redemeed and just like Kakashi promised Obito to protect Rin so will Sasuke but he will fall in love with her or something.



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

 

SS changes to be reedemed would only be at the end. Wouldn't be something new for them that's where they believe SS will happen anyway.

 

Unfortunately for SS to happen Naruto would have to die. That's SS only way of happening Naruto dies when Sasuke is redemeed and just like Kakashi promised Obito to protect Rin so will Sasuke but he will fall in love with her or something.

That's why i said, he would have to rape his own story, i mean Obito and Jiraiya had failed and Naruto who's meant to surpass them also fail?

Naruto who's like Minato and Sakura who's like Kushina also end up on a tragedy without a happy ending.

Sakura whising a happy ending for everyone and Naruto dies on the end or doesnt end up with the girl he loves which is his happy ending.

 

SS goes against the themes of the manga, and even the development.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:37 AM

SS happening is near impossible to do it with a proper story. The only way to do it is just say, "Oh they get along over time skip during epilogue so it's all good." Even then, it's incredibly bad move on any mangaka who has this story in their hand.

That said I doubt we have to worry about anything. If anything, the movie proves to me that he out there making SS as bad as it can be. No redemption. Heck, I would go far as say the same for this arc.

Oh, last time I checked, his favorite is now Chouji. So, ChouSaku?

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:52 AM

SS happening is near impossible to do it with a proper story. The only way to do it is just say, "Oh they get along over time skip during epilogue so it's all good." Even then, it's incredibly bad move on any mangaka who has this story in their hand.

That said I doubt we have to worry about anything. If anything, the movie proves to me that he out there making SS as bad as it can be. No redemption. Heck, I would go far as say the same for this arc.

Oh, last time I checked, his favorite is now Chouji. So, ChouSaku?

Agreed, most important why make Sakura like Naruto's mother at first place and states that they are like Minato/Kushina of the next generation.

It's all settled for them to be canon.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 11:54 AM

Agreed, most important why make Sakura like Naruto's mother at first place and states that they are like Minato/Kushina of the next generation.
It's all settled for them to be canon.

That's also true. It's only matter of time.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:10 PM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

 

That's far from possible , kishi would have created an incoherent subplot not in the sense of bad writing , but also pandering to what some fans want . Even if you convert the killing attempts from Sasuke's side that he was trying to give hidden messages about his feelings it would still make no freaking sense .

This pairing has nothing positive in 641 chapters nothing literally ,all of the positive development or any in fact should have happened in part 1 , that pairing died in chapter 3 at least for me , she made a terrible mistake making fun of Naruto for being an orphan in front of an orphan .........

She reached his feelings only once when she offered to go with him and help him with his revenge that's why she received the'' thank you''. That's it and that's why she remembers before she ''kills'' him or tried to anyway . The painful one sided love of hers and him cold and indifferent to her very existence..
 

 

 

SS changes to be reedemed would only be at the end. Wouldn't be something new for them that's where they believe SS will happen anyway.

 

Unfortunately for SS to happen Naruto would have to die. That's SS only way of happening Naruto dies when Sasuke is redemeed and just like Kakashi promised Obito to protect Rin so will Sasuke but he will fall in love with her or something.

That's what i've been hearing from SS fans too , Sasuke's redemption , Sasuke's redemption apparently has the influence and revert any previous character interaction to filler . Sasuke's redemption shall fill the gap where positive or any development should have been  . What about Sakura's hinted feelings for Naruto spread throughout the entire manga , what about her confession , what about her growth , what about Naruto's feelings, what about Karin?

That you'd be an epic fail of the epic fails ....


 

 

As impossible as it sounds there might be a chance lol. Sasuke is Kishi's favourite after all. Just look at all the asspulls and OP powers the Uchiha people get. Plus like somebody said Sasuke changes his thoughts/personality according to the story plotline, so its not very hard to imagine Kishi will continue doing that.

But of course I'd like her to end up with Naruto, lol.

He may be Sasuke's fan, but doing that to his own work spending to change a certain favorite of ours relationship for the better for thee who makes the leaves fly would be just incomprehensible .

That's why I'm telling a lot of SS fans remove the killing attempts , the negativity her feelings for Naruto and what do you got ? Obviously Chapter 3 Sakura hopelessly in love with SAsuke and he ? Doesn't give a kitten.

Another thing I've been hearing a lot lately that only Sakura's true love will fix Sasuke's broken heart ..
How is that even possible when Orochimaru and Kabuto had a conversation during the chuunin exams were talking about how Naruto is changing Sasuke's heart and goal which supports NaruSasu even more , now please someone tell me how did they missed that ?

Sakura doesn't know the first thing about Sasuke's pain or burdens nor about Itachi , which brings another question to think about , IF Sakura learn the truth about him how will that affect her ? My answer is not positives , she will start even hating him.
Because SS fans believe that that will change everything and she will love him even more and heal him .. But how will that change Sasuke's mind ?


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:12 PM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

It can't happen. It contradicts the manga. Even if Naruto dies and Sasuke somehow falls in love with her, although it can't happen with Sasuke for Sakura cause what the manga showed us is Sasuke can not even has an interest in her, afterwards is a bad move on the mangaka. The mangaka would be like killing the story and the development he made for the three characters, and at some point, it will affect the other characters as well.

 

Another way to know is by looking at the beginning of the manga. You would see that each of them has some things to improve in and move on with and learning things. How the characters are set at the beginning guide you how they'll be at the end of the manga as in guiding you through the story. So, if Naruto dies, Sasuke afterwards loving Sakura and Sakura by her showing to have put him in a spot where she sees him badly and doesn't trust him, which probably in the upcoming chapters there will be more than that also, and her showing that she's moving on from him, then all of a sudden at the end loving Sasuke... The least could be said, it doesn't make any sense.

 

It's what the mangaka had set and going through them in the manga like what we're seeing and following.


Edited by T XD, 31 August 2013 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:40 PM

That's why i said, he would have to rape his own story, i mean Obito and Jiraiya had failed and Naruto who's meant to surpass them also fail?

Naruto who's like Minato and Sakura who's like Kushina also end up on a tragedy without a happy ending.

Sakura whising a happy ending for everyone and Naruto dies on the end or doesnt end up with the girl he loves which is his happy ending.

 

SS goes against the themes of the manga, and even the development.

 

Exactly the story wouldn't be Naruto anymore. There are a lot of elements that suggest that even thou Naruto is in mortal danger he has to escape it and at the same time achieve all his objectives in life.

 

There's also one thing that Hashirama said about the village system or at least what he wanted.

For children to grow up to get to drink sake at 21. That's how he worded it but also it suggests that the final achievment is to create a system that let's people live up their lives. Having Naruto die for that dream after all those failures would turn the story into a bleak one.



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:45 PM

Kinda feel at this time, despite Sasuke being on the battlefield, everything with sakura in the last few chapter pertaining to how she sees naruto, or rather been supporting him, it's most likely how ns will end up, where nh and SS had "the right ingredients" at the start or model to be canon, ns developed as unintentionally for Sakura's view of naruto. Basically saying again how ns is part of the journey where the others are a destination and it's about the journey not the destination. Can't say I would be suprised for a small sequence of her remembering her good times with naruto and how she is still supporting him after her own trials in the land of iron. Heck we may get another suprise scene after the current fight like how no one saw her hug coming. Even naruto was suprised as she was never that gentle with him.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 03:54 PM

What a slow day.

So if 645 rumor were to be true, how do you think it will go down?

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 03:54 PM

I wanted to bring up a question here to ask cuz I have been curious about it lately. I want to know how the sasusaku pairing at this point considering how dead it is ATM could be brought back to life and made into a legitimate pairing again.

Do you guys think there is a way for kishi to go at it without it being a complete asspull on both Sakura to forgive sasuke and for Sasuke to suddenly show a romantic side for Sakura? Or is it way too far deep and it can't be brought back to a legitimate pairing anymore ?

 

Given how the character development is evolving so far I would say that's impossible. All characters are heading away from this ending: Sasuke is showing in every opportunity he's got he doesn't care at all about Sakura whether she dies or not. Sakura is having her reality check in this war, she knows Sasuke cannot be trusted and all the events are leading to an end where she realizes she cares more about Naruto than Sasuke. And finally Naruto always loved Sakura although he's stuck believing she only thinks about Sasuke, but in the end there are lots of possible outcomes for this war to show him that's not the case anymore. 

 

Simply speaking, SS goes against everything we have seen so far. 


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