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[六道仙人]

Well, it's hard when people know you're a Sakura fan and shove it down your throat every time they have the opportunity.

I know, they're so bothersome... Fortunately after a lot of years I learned to ignore them even though their statements get me upset quite a bit. I don't let anymore that they can gets me in the dumps.

[Chatte]

I know, they're so bothersome... Fortunately after a lot of years I learned to ignore them even though their statements get me upset quite a bit. I don't let anymore that they can gets me in the dumps.

Really now, it's like..they're pursuing you all over and shove it in your face things, you know?
I even had one last week, who sent me a message that he thought that I was a smart girl but every since I started liking Sakura, he lost respect for me.
I was like WHAT?! I liked Sakura every since the beginning... And now, everytime he sees me on a thread or something, he knows also, I am a NS, he keeps teasing that Sakura is a normal girl, she won't have any further role than a pairing fodder for Sasuke.
Really now, these people...

[六道仙人]

Really now, it's like..they're pursuing you all over and shove it in your face things, you know?
I even had one last week, who sent me a message that he thought that I was a smart girl but every since I started liking Sakura, he lost respect for me.
I was like WHAT?! I liked Sakura every since the beginning... And now, everytime he sees me on a thread or something, he knows also, I am a NS, he keeps teasing that Sakura is a normal girl, she won't have any further role than a pairing fodder for Sasuke.
Really now, these people...

here in Italy we say "Better an a**hole in less that one more"

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Note: The artist is/ was a Sakura fan, he's just disappointed at her lack of screentime.

Kishi will surprise everyone.

[六道仙人]

positively we hope

[TerrorKing]

Great chapter. It was nice seeing Lee getting some development from Neji's death and the way he was able to suddenly land a hit on Madara was quite awesome.

Like I said in the previous chapter thread, my main concern right now is Sakura. It really does seem like Kishi is going by the order of chapter 573, so hopefully this means that Sakura will get her time to shine and when that happens, it will hopefully make up for all the times she's been sidelined during this war (and the series in general). I'm still optimistic, because I just don't see why Kishi would do something like that. I don't see why he would make sure to have every character shine, but then go out of his way to not make Sakura shine.

So yeah, Sakura is still the heroine and I believe that she is either somewhere else attending to the kages or performing an as of yet unseen part of Shikaku's plan.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Hey, remember that chapter a while ago where they announced that different divisions were going to attack Obito and Madara? And we got hyped that Sakura was going to get some action?

Then the next chapter came and it turns out we were just speculating and being way too optimistic?

Yeah. That's why I'm hesitant to believe that Sakura's doing anything in the background right now. We can hype ourselves up all we want, but realistically, from past experience and disappointments, chances are she's just there and Kishi didn't bother drawing her. I guess I'm trying to make it easier for people when it inevitably happens. Just don't get too disappointed.

Call this negativity if you want, but I'm calling it having realistic expectations of Kishi.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 24 January 2013 - 02:38 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Hey, remember that chapter a while ago where they announced that different divisions were going to attack Obito and Madara? And we got hyped that Sakura was going to get some action?

Then the next chapter came and it turns out we were just speculating and being way too optimistic?

Yeah. That's why I'm hesitant to believe that Sakura's doing anything in the background right now. We can hype ourselves up all we want, but realistically, from past experience and disappointments, chances are she's just there and Kishi didn't bother drawing her. I guess I'm trying to make it easier for people when it inevitably happens. Just don't get too disappointed.

Call this negativity if you want, but I'm calling it having realistic expectations of Kishi.

Shes a main character, she cant be ignored the whole time.
I dont know what you have been expecting from her the whole time, but i bever had a problem with my expections. I dont really see any problem with sakura. Just because side characters get more screentime in this arc then her. Shes the main heroine and that cant be changed, she will get her screentime sooner or later.

As you see i havent been raging around about a chapter till now, since i dont see any problem in this manga till now.
If you reread the manga, like i did you will recognize that the time sakuras having no screentime seems pretty short.

[fireandice]

Hey, remember that chapter a while ago where they announced that different divisions were going to attack Obito and Madara? And we got hyped that Sakura was going to get some action?

Then the next chapter came and it turns out we were just speculating and being way too optimistic?

Yeah. That's why I'm hesitant to believe that Sakura's doing anything in the background right now. We can hype ourselves up all we want, but realistically, from past experience and disappointments, chances are she's just there and Kishi didn't bother drawing her. I guess I'm trying to make it easier for people when it inevitably happens. Just don't get too disappointed.

Call this negativity if you want, but I'm calling it having realistic expectations of Kishi.

I disagree...it was one thing to think Sakura might be neglected, as in say, the Pain arc, where she didn't do the main fighting (other than her cool-ass punching and one-shotting the centipede summon).

But in this arc, we had all the Konoha 11 promising to fight, and Kishi's pattern in these past few chapters has been to rotate the spotlight so everyone gets a moment to shine. This chapter is Lee's turn.

Sai and Sakura are last. Sakura said she would fight with Naruto.

Why would Kishi not bother drawing her when normally he pays attention to showing where the participants are o the battlefield? If he didn't want her to do anything major he could easily have chucked her in one of the group shots or small panels getting Kyuubi chakra (Tenten got one). Furthermore, Sai, a member of Team 7 who also got a speech in 573 is missing along with Sakura.

I'm sorry, but I think some of this negativity/pessimism/being realistic here is really stemming too much from a sense that one needs to hedge and overcompensate to deal with any disappointment.

I too will be disappointed if Sakura really ends up doing nothing, but I'll view it as bad writing that didn't match up with what Kishi hinted (with all the rookies getting a moment in 573 etc). I'm choosing to be optimistic now because the evidence for now seems to me in Sakura's favour, and I see no point in dwelling in pessimism when we don't even KNOW yet whether she's really been neglected. She might be, but the fight hasn't ended! Cheer up.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Shes a main character, she cant be ignored the whole time.
I dont know what you have been expecting from her the whole time, but i bever had a problem with my expections. I dont really see any problem with sakura. Just because side characters get more screentime in this arc then her. Shes the main heroine and that cant be changed, she will get her screentime sooner or later.

As you see i havent been raging around about a chapter till now, since i dont see any problem in this manga till now.
If you reread the manga, like i did you will recognize that the time sakuras having no screentime seems pretty short.

You're right, she is the main heroine and that can't be changed. She will get her screentime sooner or later. But there's no good reason why she isn't getting any right now. Even if it was some off-panel amazing strategy and she's being Kamui'd, it's still not justifiable. The amount of main character screentime he's sacrificing (completely) for support characters is absolutely ridiculous, whether it's temporary or not; there is absolutely no reason why Sakura shouldn't have been drawn with the others, especially at such a crucial time. I wouldn't be complaining if he at least drew her, but...nope. Not even that.

Another reason I think this will happen to Sakura is because the same thing happened to Neji. He wasn't drawn at all, then suddenly he showed up like nothing happened. Like he was always there. Now, yes, Neji was a support character, but it still came across as forced, lazy, and dumb.

I disagree...it was one thing to think Sakura might be neglected, as in say, the Pain arc, where she didn't do the main fighting (other than her cool-ass punching and one-shotting the centipede summon).

But in this arc, we had all the Konoha 11 promising to fight, and Kishi's pattern in these past few chapters has been to rotate the spotlight so everyone gets a moment to shine. This chapter is Lee's turn.

Sai and Sakura are last. Sakura said she would fight with Naruto.

Why would Kishi not bother drawing her when normally he pays attention to showing where the participants are o the battlefield? If he didn't want her to do anything major he could easily have chucked her in one of the group shots or small panels getting Kyuubi chakra (Tenten got one). Furthermore, Sai, a member of Team 7 who also got a speech in 573 is missing along with Sakura.

I'm sorry, but I think some of this negativity/pessimism/being realistic here is really stemming too much from a sense that one needs to hedge and overcompensate to deal with any disappointment.

I too will be disappointed if Sakura really ends up doing nothing, but I'll view it as bad writing that didn't match up with what Kishi hinted (with all the rookies getting a moment in 573 etc). I'm choosing to be optimistic now because the evidence for now seems to me in Sakura's favour, and I see no point in dwelling in pessimism when we don't even KNOW yet whether she's really been neglected. She might be, but the fight hasn't ended! Cheer up.

Thing is, Lee's been drawn consistently into each chapter. Sakura hasn't. Going by that pattern, whether it's her "turn" or not, she should at least be illustrated with them. And if she's doing some secret thing, she should be shown leaving or something as simple as that. It's neglecting her, whether she's there or not.

And why would Kishi not bother drawing Neji when he previously paid attention to where everyone was on that battlefield? Then finally draw him only when he wanted him there to die? Bad writing. Sure, he got his "moment", but it doesn't matter. He popped up like he was there the whole time with everyone fighting, yet he wasn't visibly shown/drawn. It's laziness, and it's likely spread to Sakura now. If Kishi's pattern is to have a character mysteriously not be drawn before their "moment" happens, then I'm sorry, that's just plain lazy and, dare-I-say, stupid.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 24 January 2013 - 03:19 PM.

[Chatte]

Still it's disappointing. Why? He drew all the main cast, even if they didn't had so much attention, all of them. But we had Naruto, Kakashi and Sasuke. No Sakura...

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Hey, remember that chapter a while ago where they announced that different divisions were going to attack Obito and Madara? And we got hyped that Sakura was going to get some action?

Then the next chapter came and it turns out we were just speculating and being way too optimistic?

Yeah. That's why I'm hesitant to believe that Sakura's doing anything in the background right now. We can hype ourselves up all we want, but realistically, from past experience and disappointments, chances are she's just there and Kishi didn't bother drawing her. I guess I'm trying to make it easier for people when it inevitably happens. Just don't get too disappointed.

Call this negativity if you want, but I'm calling it having realistic expectations of Kishi.

Ditto. While Kishi's storylines may be a tad bit predictable now, he always surprises me in the characters he uses to further his storylines.

Case in point: A Whole arc about Sasuke. There's also Neji and Hinata jumping in front of Naruto. The creation of new characters introduced in almost an instant.
Although, it always feels like he uses Hinata to cause drama and tension, like the Pein arc.

Ah well. I don't expect any characters I want to pop up...to pop up. If Sakura shows up, that's cool. If she doesn't show up, ah well. I just read the manga and comment on it as it arrives. Doesn't cause all this...unneeded negativity that's permeating this "Where's Sakura?" thread.

[sushi.]

You're right, she is the main heroine and that can't be changed. She will get her screentime sooner or later. But there's no good reason why she isn't getting any right now. Even if it was some off-panel amazing strategy and she's being Kamui'd, it's still not justifiable. The amount of main character screentime he's sacrificing (completely) for support characters is absolutely ridiculous, whether it's temporary or not; there is absolutely no reason why Sakura shouldn't have been drawn with the others, especially at such a crucial time. I wouldn't be complaining if he at least drew her, but...nope. Not even that.

Another reason I think this will happen to Sakura is because the same thing happened to Neji. He wasn't drawn at all, then suddenly he showed up like nothing happened. Like he was always there. Now, yes, Neji was a support character, but it still came across as forced, lazy, and dumb.

I am not disappointed of Kishi's work on Sakura because of this war, it's just the overall Shippuden. I want her to be "one of the three". If Kishi placed Sakura in a Kamui, I would be OK with it, but he could've done some more foreshadowing. But then it makes sense why she's not there. Because she is not there, on the battlefield. If she is there, Kishi failed as a writer. I dare to bet on her, because he has flat out stated several times that she will shine. I'll keep the last interview and the colorpage in the back of my head. The consequences of disappointment are not that heavy for me. I'll just say.. "Really..Kishi..really? ". Then I'll go read fanfiction. Seriously, someone should've rewritten the series in a fanfic from the Kage summit arc.

I still understand you though. I don't blame you at all, for not expecting Sakura. Heck, I don't expect anyone to even care about her, when it looks like Kishi doesn't.

Edited by sushi., 24 January 2013 - 03:35 PM.

[六道仙人]

Still it's disappointing. Why? He drew all the main cast, even if they didn't had so much attention, all of them. But we had Naruto, Kakashi and Sasuke. No Sakura...

then we've at least two reason because of this behavior

1)Kishi was serious when during the jump fest of the last year said that Sakura just slipped through his mind.
2)Since she was the last rookie drawned in the 573 he wants she hold on until a certain point as a trump card. Everyone, except Sai and Sakura, are shining now. This is Very very much suspect, at least to me...

Neji wasn't drawn at all, I also thought that Sakura could have ended up like Neji ma still hope he don't has something like this.

If i read the chapter and I notice that even Akamaru got his little time in the spotlight.... well my umor gets a little positive, you know...

Or maybe I'll be strange but I think that this chapter is even more positive than negative regarding Sakura... We're at beginning of the battle, Obito and Madara still begin to fight, the Juubi still hadn't its last transformation... Obito want just to cause more despair in the Alliance. Sakura might be reserved for last and decisive round of the battle. I know that mine are only hopes but I believe that there isn't other explanation.

Edited by 六道仙人, 24 January 2013 - 03:26 PM.

[PhenixElite]

You're right, she is the main heroine and that can't be changed. She will get her screentime sooner or later. But there's no good reason why she isn't getting any right now. Even if it was some off-panel amazing strategy and she's being Kamui'd, it's still not justifiable. The amount of main character screentime he's sacrificing (completely) for support characters is absolutely ridiculous, whether it's temporary or not; there is absolutely no reason why Sakura shouldn't have been drawn with the others, especially at such a crucial time. I wouldn't be complaining if he at least drew her, but...nope. Not even that.

Another reason I think this will happen to Sakura is because the same thing happened to Neji. He wasn't drawn at all, then suddenly he showed up like nothing happened. Like he was always there. Now, yes, Neji was a support character, but it still came across as forced, lazy, and dumb.


Thing is, Lee's been drawn consistently into each chapter. Sakura hasn't. Going by that pattern, whether it's her "turn" or not, she should at least be illustrated with them. And if she's doing some secret thing, she should be shown leaving or something as simple as that. It's neglecting her, whether she's there or not.

And why would Kishi not bother drawing Neji when he previously paid attention to where everyone was on that battlefield? Then finally draw him only when he wanted him there to die? Bad writing. Sure, he got his "moment", but it doesn't matter. He popped up like he was there the whole time with everyone fighting, yet he wasn't visibly shown/drawn. It's laziness, and it's likely spread to Sakura now. If Kishi's pattern is to have a character mysteriously not be drawn before their "moment" happens, then I'm sorry, that's just plain lazy and, dare-I-say, stupid.

We cant say now that he just didnt want to draw her. Maybe he had a reason not to draw her we just dont know it yet, but it seems very likely that hes planning something for her since her missing in the last to chapters was just too obvious. I mean why should naruto give his chakra to everyone except sakura? I think that also shows that sakura is something special and not just a side character. If she also got chakrea and attacked with the rest it would just seem like shes nothing special compared to the rest.

[Gravenimage]

then we've at least two reason because of this behavior

1)Kishi was serious when during the jump fest of the last year said that Sakura just slipped through his mind.
2)Since she was the last rookie drawned in the 573 he wants she hold on until a certain point as a trump card. Everyone, except Sai and Sakura, are shining now. This is Very very much suspect, at least to me...

Neji wasn't drawn at all, I also thought that Sakura could have ended up like Neji ma still hope he don't has something like this.

If i read the chapter and I notice that even Akamaru got his little time in the spotlight.... well my umor gets a little positive, you know...

Or maybe I'll be strange but I think that this chapter is even more positive than negative regarding Sakura... We're at beginning of the battle, Obito and Madara still begin to fight, the Juubi still hadn't its last transformation... Obito want just to cause more despair in the Alliance. Sakura might be reserved for last and decisive round of the battle. I know that mine are only hopes but I believe that there isn't other explanation.

This^. Exactly the real fight hasn't started yet Kishi is just giving a taste of things to come and while he's at it he's going to focus/develop the rookies all of them. He's going to the order of their speeches from 573 meaning Sakura will be last. Now can we stop whining and complaining that Sakura hasn't shown up yet? Pretty please because its getting tiring and annoying to hear you people whining just because she's absent in one chapter. Like I said Kishi is finally focusing on secondary characters that haven't gotten any development in hundreds of chapters or never at all (I'm talking to you Tenten and Shino).

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

then we've at least two reason because of this behavior

1)Kishi was serious when during the jump fest of the last year said that Sakura just slipped through his mind.
2)Since she was the last rookie drawned in the 573 he wants she hold on until a certain point as a trump card. Everyone, except Sai and Sakura, are shining now. This is Very very much suspect, at least to me...

Neji wasn't drawn at all, I also thought that Sakura could have ended up like Neji ma still hope he don't has something like this.

If i read the chapter and I notice that even Akamaru got his little time in the spotlight.... well my umor gets a little positive, you know...

Or maybe I'll be strange but I think that this chapter is even more positive than negative regarding Sakura... We're at beginning of the battle, Obito and Madara still begin to fight, the Juubi still hadn't its last transformation... Obito want just to cause more despair in the Alliance. Sakura might be reserved for last and decisive round of the battle. I know that mine are only hopes but I believe that there isn't other explanation.

Sai?
Didnt he got his development?
He sais he knows now what friends really are and moreover he even met his "brother" again.
For me his development is done.

[Gravenimage]

Sai?
Didnt he got his development?
He sais he knows now what friends really are and moreover he even met his "brother" again.
For me his development is done.

It doesn't mean Kishi is going to give him his time to shine during the fight with Madara and Obito.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It doesn't mean Kishi is going to give him his time to shine during the fight with Madara and Obito.

Didnt he shine already when he kicked ass on the ambush team division?

[Gravenimage]

Didnt he shine already when he kicked ass on the ambush team division?

Good point forgot all about that, that was almost at the beginning of the war arc.