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#701 T XD

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 21 2013, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt Naruto will talk to her. Since Hinata is just a side character her confession can be ignore and forgotten, it is not vital to the plot of the story to talk to her about her confession or anything romance related

Oh, yeah right. Probably her confession can be ignored. Manga don't side too much for talking about with the issues of the side characters.

I was putting a possibility that is open.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She needs to talk to him. It seems she's still not over him.
Naruto: I'm sorry, you're a nice girl and a good friend, but there is someone else I can't take my eyes off.

She needs a verbal rejection, so the message is clear to her. (and us.) I want him to answer her confession, he can't just leave it uncompleted. NH needs closure before NS becomes canon. Even if she is a side character, I want this story to be complete, with no holes.


As I said I doubt Naruto will talk to her and I doubt even more of Hinata doing the same. If she hasn't brought up her confession to him since he beat Pain, then she's not going to bother with it. Hinata seems to lack guts and motivation, when the going gets tough she shows those qualities (like she did facing Pain and giving Naruto the pep talk). But when it comes to her feeling she won't do a thing, it's the problem with her character even if she has changed she's still shy and insecure on the inside.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She needs to talk to him. It seems she's still not over him.
Naruto: I'm sorry, you're a nice girl and a good friend, but there is someone else I can't take my eyes off.

She needs a verbal rejection, so the message is clear to her. (and us.) I want him to answer her confession, he can't just leave it uncompleted. NH needs closure before NS becomes canon. Even if she is a side character, I want this story to be complete, with no holes.

Why he needs to reject her verbally?
This is a shounen not a shoujo there's a lot of things that kishi have to explain and dedicate panels of Naruto breaking Hinata's heart.
I prefer her witnessing Naruto's love for Sakura which is less painful and would make her think of Naruto's happiness first showing a selfless trait for once.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

After reading this chapter, I decided Kishi is a kitten. What a way to toy with pairing fandom lol.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (Uzumaki Naruto @ Jan 21 2013, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After reading this chapter, I decided Kishi is a kitten. What a way to toy with pairing fandom lol.

I said we should wait for 616 but some people start screaming "CANON CANON" even the NH and SS fans who were lurking on this website are hiding now.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She needs to talk to him. It seems she's still not over him.
Naruto: I'm sorry, you're a nice girl and a good friend, but there is someone else I can't take my eyes off.

She needs a verbal rejection, so the message is clear to her. (and us.) I want him to answer her confession, he can't just leave it uncompleted. NH needs closure before NS becomes canon. Even if she is a side character, I want this story to be complete, with no holes.

Exactly. That what I mean by the possibility of Naruto talking with Hinata cause it seems she's still not moved on or in the process.

I think we'll have to wait and see from her.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 21 2013, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. That what I mean by the possibility of Naruto talking with Hinata cause it seems she's still not moved on or in the process.

I think we'll have to wait and see from her.

This wont change nothing did you forgot that Hinata's nindo is the same as Naruto she would probably say "i wont give up".
witnessing Naruto's love for Sakura would make her desire his happiness.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 January 2013 - 06:28 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 21 2013, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why he needs to reject her verbally?
This is a shounen not a shoujo there's a lot of things that kishi have to explain and dedicate panels of Naruto breaking Hinata's heart.
I prefer her witnessing Naruto's love for Sakura which is less painful and would make her think of Naruto's happiness first showing a selfless trait for once.

Then she will witness Naruto and Sakura being happily married, watching them from afar and wondering why she never got an answer. Not because I think this is the right way to do it, I think this is what her character needs. I will not pity her if Naruto rejects her, then she has to deal with it. She wants Naruto to acknowledge her, and it is a good way to acknowledge her feelings for him. I know this is a shounen, but he's going so much back and forth. headscratch.gif

I thought Hinata was done in the Pain arc, when she smiled after Naruto returned. But we still get panels of her doubting herself, thinking lovely thoughts about Naruto's hand etc. This is what I bolded out, she has already done that. So she needs something more. The fandom does too, I agree with Uzumaki Naruto. After trolling the pairing fandoms so hard, I'm sure the NH fans will feel like Hinata gets more justice if she(and them) gets a direct response.

I heard what you said, Gravenimage. tongue.gif This is a response for both of you, I guess.

Edited by sushi., 21 January 2013 - 06:28 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:49 PM

Am I the only one thinkg that Naruto already said NO to Hinata ?
I mean, go reread the chapter where she said she will stop chasing him after war. It's kinda obvious to me that she knows that Naruto's heart already belong to another girl.
Her reaction during the hug scene, she knows, and it will not surprise me that they talked about the confession already.


Naruto is a good guy, that's why he will never ignore her, she's a precious friend to him now, but she's not the one he loves.

Itachi said to Kabuto that you're chasing someone in order to grow up. Hinata's last developpement to grow up is War arc.
She will follow her own way after that, and that is without Naruto.

That's how I see the whole thing.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I the only one thinkg that Naruto already said NO to Hinata ?
I mean, go reread the chapter where she said she will stop chasing him after war. It's kinda obvious to me that she knows that Naruto's heart already belong to another girl.
Her reaction during the hug scene, she knows, and it will not surprise me that they talked about the confession already.


Naruto is a good guy, that's why he will never ignore her, she's a precious friend to him now, but she's not the one he loves.

Itachi said to Kabuto that you're chasing someone in order to grow up. Hinata's last developpement to grow up is War arc.
She will follow her own way after that, and that is without Naruto.

That's how I see the whole thing.

I think if she witness Naruto's love for Sakura on this arc then she will find a way without him, but her wish on 573 was clearly romantic and the chasing was the fact that when Naruto saved both Sakura and Hinata, she said she was all the time trying to be strong to look after Naruto.
The chase means that she will stop that, and her romantic desires didnt turned to be as she expected.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I the only one thinkg that Naruto already said NO to Hinata ?
I mean, go reread the chapter where she said she will stop chasing him after war. It's kinda obvious to me that she knows that Naruto's heart already belong to another girl.
Her reaction during the hug scene, she knows, and it will not surprise me that they talked about the confession already.


Naruto is a good guy, that's why he will never ignore her, she's a precious friend to him now, but she's not the one he loves.

Itachi said to Kabuto that you're chasing someone in order to grow up. Hinata's last developpement to grow up is War arc.
She will follow her own way after that, and that is without Naruto.

That's how I see the whole thing.

I think the same, but the thing is that there's a possibility for him to talk to her cause she still show affection. It can be in a way other than talking to her about her confession.
So, if Naruto didn't talk to her than Kishi chose to not talk about it for a side character issue. Whereas if he talks her or whatever, then he just wants to show us the closure.

Edited by T XD, 21 January 2013 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

^I thought so too. ermm.gif "I will stop chasing after you, and be walking with you". Honestly, it's sounds like she's talking about her big brother, and how she always looked up to him. Now she wants to be equal to him. I know many NH fans think NS is sibling-like, but I think it's the other way around. wot.gif

Then 615 happened. Naruto held Hinata's hand all by himself, and it was not a romantic intention, but as many have mentioned here it was a romantic gesture. At least from Hinata's side. Her reaction was romantic. That is why I think she needs more than a view of Naruto and Sakura's love for eachother. I want her to be happy for them, but I hope she'll be happy for herself too.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^I thought so too. ermm.gif "I will stop chasing after you, and be walking with you". Honestly, it's sounds like she's talking about her big brother, and how she always looked up to him. Now she wants to be equal to him. I know many NH fans think NS is sibling-like, but I think it's the other way around. wot.gif

Then 615 happened. Naruto held Hinata's hand all by himself, and it was not a romantic intention, but as many have mentioned here it was a romantic gesture. At least from Hinata's side. Her reaction was romantic. That is why I think she needs more than a view of Naruto and Sakura's love for eachother. I want her to be happy for them, but I hope she'll be happy for herself too.

She already is that's why she was the only one aside from Ino-SHika-Chou that received the kyuubi's chakra, the thing is all of her desires were granted but without any romantic intentions.

It's like how to find a way to develop Hinata's character without developing NH romantically?
And at the same time giving fanservice?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 21 2013, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's like how to find a way to develop Hinata's character without developing NH romantically?
And at the same time giving fanservice?

By adding more reasons for her to wake up in the morning, it's like she needs Naruto more than oxygen. Make her fight for her village, her clan. Make her a suitable Hyuuga clan leader.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She needs a verbal rejection, so the message is clear to her. (and us.) I want him to answer her confession, he can't just leave it uncompleted. NH needs closure before NS becomes canon. Even if she is a side character, I want this story to be complete, with no holes.

You know, I don't think Naruto will speak to her about it, nor do i think that he will have to give her a verbal rejection.

I think Kishimoto is going to do something for Hinata that wraps up her storyline nicely. He will somehow shift her focus from Naruto onto whatever is meant for her (be it heading up her clan, catching the eye of another hyuuga or both), and then let her fulfill that goal. Then she will let go of her crush on Naruto naturally without either of them having to address it.

'Cuz I'm tellin' ya right now - Naruto ain't never gonna address it! lol!

The path has been cleared for Hinata to take over the clan, now that Neji is dead. There is no one else. Now all she needs is some other love interest....

And yeah, I fully think that Kishimoto will spend that extra time on her. She may have been a side character, but her importance has just been bumped up. We know her wants and desires. She has gained more fans. Kishimoto now has an obligation to write an ending to her story.

And no, I never thought Hinata gave up. Even after Sakura's hug. Hinata's crush on Naruto has been shown to be long lasting. Her love for him has only grown as Hinata has gained more self-confidence.

And here's the tricky part: What she likes about Naruto's nindo is that he never gives up. But to move on from Naruto and love someone else would mean she would have to go back on that nindo. What would make her do that, and still look like a strong character? I don't know....

Kishimoto has written in double standard here. Naruto's love for Sakura is deep and abiding. And for him to succeed would support his nindo of never giving up. But the same applies to Hinata. So in NS's case the nindo works, but for that to work, then Hinata cannot succeed in her love for Naruto.

I think Kishimoto will have to fill out her storyline to remedy this and make everyone feel okay about this doublestandard — yes, she's leaving behind her love for Naruto, but she's moving on to something she didn't realize she wanted more.

Before 615 I could have believed that Kishimoto might have let Hinata fade away. But not now. He's written waaaay more into her storyline than almost anyone else. And he'll have to attend to that in the end. (And we've yet to see other people's reactions to their closeness on the battlefield. Regardless of whether he gave chakra to others, they still shared an intimate moment that restarted his engines.) The waves from Hinata's public actions will still be felt in the bigger plot, even when Hinata is not around. Sakura's astonished look is proof of that.

I'm just hoping that this moment with Hinata is a gateway to more focus on Sakura. *fingers crossed*



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I the only one thinkg that Naruto already said NO to Hinata ?


You know, it's funny you mention that because the chapter where Naruto saved her from the two Zetsu clones was the chapter I thought he might have said no.

The whole "see it in your eyes thing" kind gave me the sense of him telling her that he wasn't into her. He talks about the Pein Arc, but never mentions the confession and he tells her that she doesn't really need him to be powerful. She has confidence in herself.

I don't know, Naruto flat out rejecting Hinata is not something that I see happening. A lot of people claim that Hinata has too much time on screen that she needs a resolution, but is it really necessary? The only problem I see is the NH fan having a fit and hating Naruto, but then again I don't think most respected Naruto anyway. If they did, then they wouldn't ignore Naruto not reciprocating Hinata's feelings.

Then again, even a rejection is not good enough for some pairing fans. How many times has Sasuke rejected Sakura and some still believe they will get together? I don't see what importance Hinata could play. She has no connection to Sasuke and her being in that battle would feel even more forced than she is now.

I don't know, maybe I have just gotten jaded about Hinata. All the times she is on screen, she never really does anything and even when she does do something important it feels like jumping two steps back just to get that development to her. She feels more like a hindrance to the story and to get her that "resolution" feels like a waste of space.

I am just tired of Hinata now. Tired of always being disappointed by her.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 January 2013 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

James and tricksie, you bring up good points, so good that I don't know what I think anymore. tongue.gif Maybe it's just too OOC for Naruto to reject her. headscratch.gif

Maybe Hinata's closure will be that we see an entire new side of her. One that Kishi might have been hiding for the right moment. I said so in my last post, maybe she'll finally be the leader the Hyuuga needs. Especially now that Neji's dead. She's had plenty of chances to cherish that side of her, but chose not to. She has nothing to do with the main plot. I could care less what happens to her, she is not interesting. But in terms of the story, I hope she finds happiness, not just in terms of "I'm happy for you, Naruto-kun", but also as in "I'm happy for myself".

Edited by sushi., 21 January 2013 - 08:12 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jan 21 2013, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And here's the tricky part: What she likes about Naruto's nindo is that he never gives up. But to move on from Naruto and love someone else would mean she would have to go back on that nindo. What would make her do that, and still look like a strong character? I don't know....

I'm just hoping that this moment with Hinata is a gateway to more focus on Sakura. *fingers crossed*


That's a good point. But, can't it still be said that she's not giving up on finding someone who loves her, and she him. What if...she finds someone like Naruto but better in their own way, so she's not really giving up on love, especially since Naruto would be happy with the one he loves like she would want him to be. Does this make sense? tongue.gif I won't imagine her as a weak character if she does that...considering you can't force someone to love you, can you? There's always a limit to that nindo. I swear there was a technique that even Naruto couldn't do and he gave up on before. huh.gif

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

^Maybe she'll always love him, but not always be in love with him. Hinata's feelings for Naruto has been described as "she loves him" and "she admires him". Of course she is currently in love, but as long as she will love him forever in a platonic way+make him acknowledge her, I think she'll be alright.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

you know.... in chapter 443, Shikamaru told similar words regarding Naruto as his father remember ("When I'm with Naruto... He makes me...want to walk at his side")... of course he didn't say he wanted handle his hand too tongue.gif


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