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[Luna]

Sakura calling Sasuke out? That's funny.

And OCC

[TouKen4Life3g]

Movie info is out. And guess what...

I CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Boruto bumps to Sasuke. How original. kitten this.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh that means Sasuke isn't coming back then? Great! kitten this kitten! I'm going back to Soma. Art is kittening good. Goddamn it!

Ok I was just leaving in NC fashion but yeah, now I think Sasuke may not return. Best father, everyone!

[AHK]

Oh that means Sasuke isn't coming back then? Great! kitten this kitten! I'm going back to Soma. Art is kittening good. Goddamn it!
Ok I was just leaving in NC fashion but yeah, now I think Sasuke may not return. Best father, everyone!

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[LuckyChi7]

Oh that means Sasuke isn't coming back then? Great! kitten this kitten! I'm going back to Soma. Art is kittening good. Goddamn it!

Ok I was just leaving in NC fashion but yeah, now I think Sasuke may not return. Best father, everyone!

 

Sounds to be like a Neo-Naruto Jiraiya relationship.  Oh well it is what it is. 

 

 

I bet you this will cause Sarada to train under Naruto. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

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It sounds like Boruto will be bumping to Sasuke. Most likely outside Konoha. If that's the case, does that mean Sasuke once again go into the distance?

[Apollo]

I am very disappointed with Sasuke this chapter       Where was the loving Chidori to the heart or the constant barrage of insults     He's such a failure as a father and husband.

[Nostradamus]

I am very disappointed with Sasuke this chapter       Where was the loving Chidori to the heart or the constant barrage of insults     He's such a failure as a father and husband.

Don't worry in the next chapter he's going to Amaterasu her ass.

[Nar123]

What did Tobirama do that was racist? Keep in mind, the Uchiha's didn't get put into their own separate corner of the village until after Minato died, well after Tobirama died. Consider that Tobirama did more for the Uchiha than the Uchiha did for themselves. So how was he racist?

 

He segregated the Uchiha because he was a racist and distrustful, he thought all of them were bad and wanted them put up in a corner so he could spy on them in a more effective manner. Tbh, Tobirama's actions are one of the main reasons the Uchiha felt alienated in Konoha to begin with 

 

 

 

Of course he would be distrustful, he spent his entire childhood, and much of his adult life fighting the Uchiha. The Uchiha killed members of his family and his clan. Why shouldn't he be distrustful of them? It was assumed by Obito that Tobirama's motivation was to monitor them, but context matters. When he said that, he was trying to incite Sasuke against Konoha. When Sasuke called Tobirama out on it, Hashirama got angry at Tobirama. There might not have been a person that Tobirama respected more than Hashirama, yet when Hashirama got mad at Tobirama, he literally told Hashirama to shut the kitten up.

If Tobirama hated them so much, why would he even give them the police force? He consolidated the power of the bureaucracy and literally handed the Uchiha the second most powerful position in the village, short of only the hokage. If the Hokage's regime makes the laws, the police enact them. What good are laws if the people that enforce them choose not to? The police was made up entirely of Uchiha, which means the power to interpret laws and act on them rested in the hands of one group. They literally had all the power of the law in their hands, given to them by Tobirama out of the belief that they could help the village, and it wasn't enough for them.

 

Hashirama fought in the same war and wasn't as distrustful as Tobirama

 

Tobirama gave them the police force under the pretext it was something good, but truly it was a manner to keep them all secluded in one corner for some more efficient spy work

 

Just look

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second most powerful position?  Really?

 

 

 

What happened in the massacre was both the uchiha and konoha's fault 

stop trying to take the blame away from the second hokage's actions

Edited by Nar123, 22 May 2015 - 01:35 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Does it matter? Zetsu caused literally everything.

[AHK]

He segregated the Uchiha because he was a racist and distrustful, he thought all of them were bad and wanted them put up in a corner so he could spy on them in a more effective manner. Tbh, Tobirama's actions are one of the main reasons the Uchiha felt alienated in Konoha to begin with as Orochimaru pointed out
 
Hashirama fought in the same war and wasn't as distrustful as Tobirama
 
Tobirama gave them the police force under the pretext it was something good, but truly it was a manner to keep them all secluded in one corner for some more efficient spy work
 
Just look
 
 

 
 

 
 
 
Second most powerful position?  Really?
 

 
 
What happened in the massacre was both the uchiha and konoha's fault

Once again, he didn't segregate anybody. The Uchiha didn't get sent to their corner of the village until after Obito attacked and Minato died, that was well after Tobirama died. He had every right to be distrustful, but that doesn't mean that he was a racist. Once again, Tobirama's intentions weren't to intrude on them, he wanted to incorporate them into the village structure. It was after Tobirama died that they started to keep an eye on the Uchiha. He was trying to help them. But it wasn't enough for them. Yes, the bureaucracy is extremely power, for the reasons I've already mentioned. The problem is that the Uchiha are all power hungry, it wasn't enough for them.

I've already said on many occasions that I believe your last line to be true.

Does it matter? Zetsu caused literally everything.

Yup, because the Uchiha were arrogant and stupid enough to place all of their faith in a tablet that gave them an entitlement complex, and because of it they placed value of their clan over millions of people.

Edited by AHK, 22 May 2015 - 01:41 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't get it. Sasuke saw Sarada, but questioned her. He saw her Uchiha crest. Isn't that easy to purchase one?

[TouKen4Life3g]

And that's another thing. How does Uchiha even know what the tablet said if they need to acquire the Rinnengan to read them all?

[rocci]

And that's another thing. How does Uchiha even know what the tablet said if they need to acquire the Rinnengan to read them all?

You could still read it with just ordinary three tomoe sharingan.
But you can understand more if you obtain ms or rinnegan.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

He segregated the Uchiha because he was a racist and distrustful, he thought all of them were bad and wanted them put up in a corner so he could spy on them in a more effective manner. Tbh, Tobirama's actions are one of the main reasons the Uchiha felt alienated in Konoha to begin with 

 

 

 

 

Hashirama fought in the same war and wasn't as distrustful as Tobirama

 

Tobirama gave them the police force under the pretext it was something good, but truly it was a manner to keep them all secluded in one corner for some more efficient spy work

 

Just look

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second most powerful position?  Really?

 

 

 

What happened in the massacre was both the uchiha and konoha's fault 

stop trying to take the blame away from the second hokage's actions

 

In the long run, I like to think too that Tobirama did what he did also was due to his hatred, since he had more of it than Hashirama did for all the Uchiha, which is what makes things so tragic in the long run.

[AHK]

I don't get it. Sasuke saw Sarada, but questioned her. He saw her Uchiha crest. Isn't that easy to purchase one?

You could read more and more with each stage of the eye you unlocked. Without the sharingan, you could read a bit, with it you could read a bit more, with a Mangekyo you could read even more, with an EMS you could read even more still, and with the rinnegan you can read all of it. It was like that to encourage growth of the eyes, and once you got the Rinnegan, Zetsu's version told you how to perform the IT.

[rocci]

Why rikudo doesn't make it like Moses ten command is beyond me.
Why would the tablet so hard to read that you need to go through sacrifice and bloodshed

[Nar123]

Once again, he didn't segregate anybody. The Uchiha didn't get sent to their corner of the village until after Obito attacked and Minato died, that was well after Tobirama died. He had every right to be distrustful, but that doesn't mean that he was a racist. Once again, Tobirama's intentions weren't to intrude on them, he wanted to incorporate them into the village structure. It was after Tobirama died that they started to keep an eye on the Uchiha. He was trying to help them. But it wasn't enough for them. Yes, the bureaucracy is extremely power, for the reasons I've already mentioned. The problem is that the Uchiha are all power hungry, it wasn't enough for them.

I've already said on many occasions that I believe your last line to be true.
 

 

Man I just put the panels up there, really

 

He put the Uchiha in the outskirts of the village because he was distrustful and didn't like them, that's segregating

Didn't you read the panel? Tobirama put them there!

 

Ugh, I'm putting them again

 

 

Thanks to Tobirama, Madara sympathizers grew strong within the clan. It's his fault

The  majority of Uchiha weren't exactly power hungry for ruling Konoha, they just felt they were being excluded from it

 

 

 

 

This shows his intention was not to" unite the uchiha with the village more", he just wanted to outright spy on them

[Nar123]

Does it matter? Zetsu caused literally everything.

 

Zetsu played with Madara's mind, but Tobirama's distrust was also part of why Madara defected

 

 

 

 

 

See? Madara tried to persuade the other Uchiha they didn't listen to him  because they had nothing to be angry for and Madara was more or less the only Uchiha who knew what happened within Hashirama's council

 

 

 

 

 

In the long run, I like to think too that Tobirama did what he did also was due to his hatred, since he had more of it than Hashirama did for all the Uchiha, which is what makes things so tragic in the long run.

 

Yeah, basically Konoha's (AKA Tobirama's)  distrust is to blame too for the tragic events that unfolded during the Uchiha massacre

Edited by Nar123, 22 May 2015 - 02:10 AM.

[Shashank95]