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#7081 merryGOflava

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:59 AM

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:29 AM

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:40 AM

New topic for something Kishimoto did with Sakura. Why did Kishimoto never really give Sakura a clan? Reason why I was thinking about this is because of what marrying Naruto could do to people in clans, and the fact that Kishimoto put all the big characters or decent minor characters in clans.

Decent minor characters/big characters in clans (other than Naruto of course)- Chouji, Ino, Shikamaru, Shino, Kiba, Hinata(NH pwned), Kakashi (I think), Sai (I think too), Sasuke.. and mannnny many more. (Tenten for example isn't really a "decent" minor character, so she never really got one)

What I'm saying is that Kishimoto could have given Sakura a clan, but sense he was looking at the bigger picture for her (NS), he decided to leave out her family, and let her be a solo girl, so you know, she could date him and not worry about the clan not approving of her because it breaks their rules (Hyuuga clan for example). Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe Kishi just though it was too much work, but come on people, Sasuke and Naruto got clans, why wouldn't Sakura?

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:23 AM

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New topic for something Kishimoto did with Sakura. Why did Kishimoto never really give Sakura a clan? Reason why I was thinking about this is because of what marrying Naruto could do to people in clans, and the fact that Kishimoto put all the big characters or decent minor characters in clans.

Decent minor characters/big characters in clans (other than Naruto of course)- Chouji, Ino, Shikamaru, Shino, Kiba, Hinata(NH pwned), Kakashi (I think), Sai (I think too), Sasuke.. and mannnny many more. (Tenten for example isn't really a "decent" minor character, so she never really got one)

What I'm saying is that Kishimoto could have given Sakura a clan, but sense he was looking at the bigger picture for her (NS), he decided to leave out her family, and let her be a solo girl, so you know, she could date him and not worry about the clan not approving of her because it breaks their rules (Hyuuga clan for example). Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe Kishi just though it was too much work, but come on people, Sasuke and Naruto got clans, why wouldn't Sakura?

i thought of that too long time ago and i think of that is that kishi didn't do a clan or introduce us to her clan cause when she will be with naruto, he's going to meet her parents and her clan by making a chapter of it or a part in a chapter or something like this.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:29 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Nov 26 2011, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New topic for something Kishimoto did with Sakura. Why did Kishimoto never really give Sakura a clan? Reason why I was thinking about this is because of what marrying Naruto could do to people in clans, and the fact that Kishimoto put all the big characters or decent minor characters in clans.

Decent minor characters/big characters in clans (other than Naruto of course)- Chouji, Ino, Shikamaru, Shino, Kiba, Hinata(NH pwned), Kakashi (I think), Sai (I think too), Sasuke.. and mannnny many more. (Tenten for example isn't really a "decent" minor character, so she never really got one)

What I'm saying is that Kishimoto could have given Sakura a clan, but sense he was looking at the bigger picture for her (NS), he decided to leave out her family, and let her be a solo girl, so you know, she could date him and not worry about the clan not approving of her because it breaks their rules (Hyuuga clan for example). Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe Kishi just though it was too much work, but come on people, Sasuke and Naruto got clans, why wouldn't Sakura?

It's actually not confirmed whether Sakura comes from a clan or not, however people have just assumed that she doesn't come from one because of that reason, while others do speculate that she does, myself included, or else what the hell is that circle symbol doing on the back of her shirt? Usually shinobi that don't come from clans don't have symbols, such as Lee and Tenten, but Sakura seems to have one. Despite the fact that we don't know much about her family, it is assumed that she doesn't come from a clan. My guess is that maybe her father was a well known shinobi, although we don't know a single thing about her father either.

Or maybe it's possible that Sakura comes from a clan that doesn't have a specific kekkei genkai or something, thus it wouldn't really screw with the Uzumaki clan if she ends up marrying Naruto of whatever. Then again the Uzumaki clan doesn't have a known kekkei genkai either [or at least I can't recall if they have one]. Uzumaki Mito got married to Senju Hashirama with no problems with the whole kekkei genkai issue, and I don't think the Senju clan had any kekkei genkai abilities either, aside from the fact that Hashirama could use Wood Release, and was the only known Senju clan member who could do so, thus the Wood Release is ruled out. So there, I don't think it would be a problem if Naruto and Sakura get married since they don't have any known kekkei genkai in their respective clans [if Sakura comes from a clan].

Aside from the Senju and Uzumaki clans, I think most clans don't marry outsiders, so it would keep their bloodline clean. Although no one knows for sure if this applies to the Aburame, Inuzuka, Yamanaka and Uchiha clans, it definitely applies to the Hyuuga clan. See, if Naruto were to marry Hinata, despite the fact that the Uzumaki clan doesn't have a known kekkei genkai, the Hyuuga clan would be screwed, and the bloodline would no longer be clean now that someone of the Hyuuga clan has married a non-Hyuuga. Or worse, the Hyuuga clan would be even more screwed if she married someone of the Uchiha clan, because then the kid's dojutsu ability would be a mix of the Byakugan and Sharingan abilities. And we all totally wanna know what's gonna come out of that. /sarcasm

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Kim @ Nov 26 2011, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with you. It's possible Sakura comes from a clan(because of the symbol on her back) but it's not very famous or powerful. Kishi probably didn't want her to be from some super-powerful clan because he wanted to make her more relatable. Althought in that case I'm not sure why gave her a symbol in the first place...


she received that symbol in the shippuuden's arc , i do not see that symbol in classic i think it have something to do with medical ninjas

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Nov 26 2011, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she received that symbol in the shippuuden's arc , i do not see that symbol in classic i think it have something to do with medical ninjas

Actually she's had that symbol on her back since Part I. Or at the very least, somewhere on her attire.

But enough about clan symbols, the real issue here is that if Naruto and Sakura get married, they're not gonna screw with each other's clan bloodlines, if Sakura comes from a clan with no kekkei genkai, as opposed to Naruto marrying Hinata or something...

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Nov 26 2011, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually she's had that symbol on her back since Part I. Or at the very least, somewhere on her attire.

But enough about clan symbols, the real issue here is that if Naruto and Sakura get married, they're not gonna screw with each other's clan bloodlines, if Sakura comes from a clan with no kekkei genkai, as opposed to Naruto marrying Hinata or something...


i dont think it will scre up kekkei genkais , and ino? who do u think she will get? her clan is from yamanaka and appears that do not have problem her marrying sasuke

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Nov 26 2011, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont think it will scre up kekkei genkais , and ino? who do u think she will get? her clan is from yamanaka and appears that do not have problem her marrying sasuke

i think ino can marry any person and not to forget that her family and shikamaru's family are very close but i don't think in the " you should marry" thing in the manga have an importance to kishi to talk about the rules of the marriage of each clan. however it could be brought up later or something.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE (T XD @ Nov 26 2011, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think ino can marry any person and not to forget that her family and shikamaru's family are very close but i don't think in the " you should marry" thing in the manga have an importance to kishi to talk about the rules of the marriage of each clan. however it could be brought up later or something.


i dont think they have rules , itachi has a girlfriend and kishimoto did not showed her.
but i think she was from the clan , because he kills her too.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Nov 26 2011, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont think it will scre up kekkei genkais , and ino? who do u think she will get? her clan is from yamanaka and appears that do not have problem her marrying sasuke

Well we're not sure if the other clans only marry within their clans to keep their bloodlines clean. We only know that the Hyuuga clan does this.

By the way, I was thinking that since the kekkei genkai for the Hyuuga clan is the Byakugan, which is a dojutsu, maybe the Uchiha clan follows the same tradition as the Hyuuga clan, since they have a kekkei genkai that is also a dojutsu [the Sharingan]. So maybe even the Uchiha clan members only marry within the clan to keep their bloodline clean as well. Note the word maybe, because there's no proof about it really. It's just a possibility since the Uchiha and Hyuuga clan are similar in a way.

I know that it doesn't really have much to do with NS, but if the Uchiha clan has the same traditions as the Hyuuga clan, then SS probably wouldn't happen either because of this reason. They might think that Sakura would screw up their clan, despite the fact that she doesn't have a kekkei genkai or whatever.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 02:45 PM

Lol so what you guys ar saying is that the Hyuuga clan would be screwed either way if NH was to happen.

Nh pwned.

Ns is really the only option for Naruto - and I believe an only option he'd want. pictureem0.gif

If sakura has a clan, its obvious, being a main character, that Kishi has had no reason to get into it for it wouldn't screw with the bloodlines either way when Sakura/Naruto .. *ahem.* Get married. whatthekitten.gif What'dyou think I was saying? pictureem0.gif


So either way, Nh is screwed. Thank you bloodlines.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:27 PM

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Lol so what you guys ar saying is that the Hyuuga clan would be screwed either way if NH was to happen.

Nh pwned.

Ns is really the only option for Naruto - and I believe an only option he'd want. pictureem0.gif

If sakura has a clan, its obvious, being a main character, that Kishi has had no reason to get into it for it wouldn't screw with the bloodlines either way when Sakura/Naruto .. *ahem.* Get married. whatthekitten.gif What'dyou think I was saying? pictureem0.gif


So either way, Nh is screwed. Thank you bloodlines.


Yep, the bloodlines will not get screwed, and that kid is going to bring nothing but positives, because, unless traits skip a generation, which is not the case for Naruto since he has his dad's resourcefulness and his mom's personality, Naruto's and Sakura's kid is not going to have any downside to his/her abilities. That kid is going to be smart, good-looking, have a good amount of stamina, and going to have a good amount of personality, compared to the NH kid or worst, the SS kid, but let's not dwell on those.

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I know that it doesn't really have much to do with NS, but if the Uchiha clan has the same traditions as the Hyuuga clan, then SS probably wouldn't happen either because of this reason. They might think that Sakura would screw up their clan, despite the fact that she doesn't have a kekkei genkai or whatever.


Well, the thing is that the Uchiha clan is all but dead, except one and a zombie Itachi and Madara, so uhhhhh, that blows the screwing up their clan idea theory out of the water. Not picking their side on it, just pointing that fact out.

Edited by Anguyen92, 26 November 2011 - 06:38 PM.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 26 2011, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the thing is that the Uchiha clan is all but dead, except one and a zombie Itachi and Madara, so uhhhhh, that blows the screwing up their clan idea theory out of the water. Not picking their side on it, just pointing that fact out.

I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that comment. happy.gif

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 26 2011, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, the bloodlines will not get screwed, and that kid is going to bring nothing but positives, because, unless traits skip a generation, which is not the case for Naruto since he has his dad's resourcefulness and his mom's personality, Naruto's and Sakura's kid is not going to have any downside to his/her abilities. That kid is going to be smart, good-looking, have a good amount of stamina, and going to have a good amount of personality, compared to the NH kid or worst, the SS kid, but let's not dwell on those.


but naruto's father was smart, intelligent , a strong personality his mother too, and naruto is stubborn , imature, smart(only in battles), only have a good of stamina and a strong personality he doesnt like to read books unlike his mother and father.
so i think it does not make sense

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE (Thomas Narusaku @ Nov 26 2011, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but naruto's father was smart, intelligent , a strong personality his mother too, and naruto is stubborn , imature, smart(only in battles), only have a good of stamina and a strong personality he doesnt like to read books unlike his mother and father.
so i think it does not make sense


All right, fair enough, if what you think, I wrote, doesn't make sense, then it is what it is. In my opinion, I think what I wrote makes somewhat sense to me but then again, I am somewhat of an idiot that does not really look or see all of the minor details and personalities traits like most of the good people here does. I just somewhat make deductions from what I see and if I'm wrong, which is often, then it is what it is and should just be ignored and not be quoted on just to see my failure in quotes.

So anywho, yep, I wonder if the NH fans actually look at the bloodlines situation, or they would rather just not look at the details of that one and just ignore it?

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 26 2011, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right, fair enough, if what you think, I wrote, doesn't make sense, then it is what it is. In my opinion, I think what I wrote makes somewhat sense to me but then again, I am somewhat of an idiot that does not really look or see all of the minor details and personalities traits like most of the good people here does. I just somewhat make deductions from what I see and if I'm wrong, which is often, then it is what it is and should just be ignored and not be quoted on just to see my failure in quotes.

So anywho, yep, I wonder if the NH fans actually look at the bloodlines situation, or they would rather just not look at the details of that one and just ignore it?

i said it the sons do not inherit their parents personalities , naruto only inherited the strong personality.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 26 2011, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right, fair enough, if what you think, I wrote, doesn't make sense, then it is what it is. In my opinion, I think what I wrote makes somewhat sense to me but then again, I am somewhat of an idiot that does not really look or see all of the minor details and personalities traits like most of the good people here does. I just somewhat make deductions from what I see and if I'm wrong, which is often, then it is what it is and should just be ignored and not be quoted on just to see my failure in quotes.

So anywho, yep, I wonder if the NH fans actually look at the bloodlines situation, or they would rather just not look at the details of that one and just ignore it?

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Nov 27 2011, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the thing is that the Uchiha clan is all but dead, except one and a zombie Itachi and Madara, so uhhhhh, that blows the screwing up their clan idea theory out of the water. Not picking their side on it, just pointing that fact out.

Yeah, well. Maybe the Uchiha followed that tradition before the massacre perhaps?

Oh but that's right, Sakura only started liking Sasuke after the massacre took place. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Nov 26 2011, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, well. Maybe the Uchiha followed that tradition before the massacre perhaps?

Oh but that's right, Sakura only started liking Sasuke after the massacre took place. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

What do you mean by this?

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