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#7081 Superman333

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

 

I don't believe that Sasuke will attempt to gain the Rinnegan, He has too much pride in the fact that he is an Uchiha, having to rely on Senju cells to make him stronger would be admitting that the Uchiha are inferior, the reason Madara gained the Rinnegan is because he no longer had any pride in being an Uchiha since to him the Uchiha abandoned him, and Obito is a similar case.

 

Also if Kishi is going for a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke's fight with Hashirama and Madara's fight, no Rinnegan would be best as Madara did not get his Rinnegan until years later possibly after Hashi's death, and that is another reason against Sasuke gaining the Rinnegan Madara said that he didn't obtain the Rinnegan until years later and just having Senju DNA dose not guarantee that you will obtain the Rinnegan, as Danzo had both Senju and Uchiha DNA and yet he did not have any Rinnegans.

 

 

Technically there has been another arc, we are now in the second arc of the war the Ten-Tails Revival arc.

 

 

Personally I don't think Naruto needs to confess, after 631 you'd have to be an idiot to not see that Naruto is still interested in Sakura romantically.

I think he will use it because look at the lengths he went to get more power , he didn't rely on his power solely alone , he also used the power of the curse mark when need be , if the Rinnigan means him getting stronger , he wouldn't care . Pride or Not . 


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:17 PM

I think he will use it because look at the lengths he went to get more power , he didn't rely on his power solely alone , he also used the power of the curse mark when need be , if the Rinnigan means him getting stronger , he wouldn't care . Pride or Not . 

 

How will he get it though? If he tries to obtain it through Senju DNA it will still take years to develop Obito has had Hashirama's DNA for almost 18 years and he had to take Madara's eye from Nagato's corps. And if he ops to have Madara's transplanted into him, he will only have one and would lose either his ability to control Amaterasu and given how Obito cant change it back into a Shaingan, chances are it would be the same for Sasuke,


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:26 PM

 

I don't believe that Sasuke will attempt to gain the Rinnegan, He has too much pride in the fact that he is an Uchiha, having to rely on Senju cells to make him stronger would be admitting that the Uchiha are inferior, the reason Madara gained the Rinnegan is because he no longer had any pride in being an Uchiha since to him the Uchiha abandoned him, and Obito is a similar case.

 

Also if Kishi is going for a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke's fight with Hashirama and Madara's fight, no Rinnegan would be best as Madara did not get his Rinnegan until years later possibly after Hashi's death, and that is another reason against Sasuke gaining the Rinnegan Madara said that he didn't obtain the Rinnegan until years later and just having Senju DNA dose not guarantee that you will obtain the Rinnegan, as Danzo had both Senju and Uchiha DNA and yet he did not have any Rinnegan

Cursed seal, Neverland, Snakes, Orochimaru...

Put some senju cells it's less than that, and also coming from Kishi expect any asspull from Sasuke.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:37 PM

Cursed seal, Neverland, Snakes, Orochimaru...

Put some senju cells it's less than that, and also coming from Kishi expect any asspull from Sasuke.

 

Most of Sasuke's pride in being an Uchiha came after he learned the truth about Itachi, that is why prior to that the Uchiha crest was only on the back of his collar but not it is on the back of his shirt, he takes more pride in the fact the he is an Uchiha now then he used to, and I have stated before that I believe that Perfect Susanoo is enough for Sasuke to have an even fight with Naruto, plus Naruto already knows how to deal with the Rinnegan, but he has not had much experience when fighting the Mangekyo and has had no experience fighting Susanoo. so what would be a better choice a power that Naruto has fought and won against or a power which Naruto has only seen once just a few chapters ago.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:40 PM

After he fought Itachi, his fighting style became Uchiha central. He used to do many sword combat. Still there, but Susanoo and other Sharingan has been used lately. It's like his style was altered to be Madara 2.0 just to make it parallel in terms of history repeats itself, especially that Hashirama has Sage Mode, which Naruto happened to have one. The fight will be different but their relationship history will repeat.



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:54 PM

After he fought Itachi, his fighting style became Uchiha central. He used to do many sword combat. Still there, but Susanoo and other Sharingan has been used lately. It's like his style was altered to be Madara 2.0 just to make it parallel in terms of history repeats itself, especially that Hashirama has Sage Mode, which Naruto happened to have one. The fight will be different but their relationship history will repeat.

 

Yeah and I believe that their arsenal of jutsus will be similar to Hashirama and Madara's fight, only that instead of Wood Release Naruto has Kurama and and Wind Release and Sasuke has Lightning Release.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:05 AM

Yeah i know but i want a clear one not something NH fans always make arguments naruto was joking he doesnt love sakura!

 

I dont think Naruto would lie to hes own father since who knows when he will see him this is probably the last time

 

also they're trying to disapprove our couple with any invalid argument , but when it comes to the touchy moments they all have nothing to say haha

 

i think they know NS is the only most developt couple in the Naruto series


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:25 AM

 

How will he get it though? If he tries to obtain it through Senju DNA it will still take years to develop Obito has had Hashirama's DNA for almost 18 years and he had to take Madara's eye from Nagato's corps. And if he ops to have Madara's transplanted into him, he will only have one and would lose either his ability to control Amaterasu and given how Obito cant change it back into a Shaingan, chances are it would be the same for Sasuke,

Kishi will find some way to make it where he can develop it in a few days lols . 


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:28 AM

Yeah i know but i want a clear one not something NH fans always make arguments naruto was joking he doesnt love sakura!

 

I dont think Naruto would lie to hes own father since who knows when he will see him this is probably the last time

 

also they're trying to disapprove our couple with any invalid argument , but when it comes to the touchy moments they all have nothing to say haha

 

i think they know NS is the only most developt couple in the Naruto series

let em run they mouf man . 


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:52 AM

Kishi will find some way to make it where he can develop it in a few days lols . 

 

Alright then explain why it would be a good idea for Sasuke to try and gain the Rinnegan when Naruto has already proven he can beat someone with the Rinnegan.

 

Oh and you need to stop double posting, there is a edit button for a reason.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:54 AM

 

Alright then explain why it would be a good idea for Sasuke to try and gain the Rinnegan when Naruto has already proven he can beat someone with the Rinnegan.

 

Oh and you need to stop double posting, there is a edit button for a reason.

if thats the case then maybe something along the line of perfect Susanoo would be better . 


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:28 AM

I don't believe that Sasuke will attempt to gain the Rinnegan, He has too much pride in the fact that he is an Uchiha, having to rely on Senju cells to make him stronger would be admitting that the Uchiha are inferior, the reason Madara gained the Rinnegan is because he no longer had any pride in being an Uchiha since to him the Uchiha abandoned him, and Obito is a similar case.

 

Also if Kishi is going for a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke's fight with Hashirama and Madara's fight, no Rinnegan would be best as Madara did not get his Rinnegan until years later possibly after Hashi's death, and that is another reason against Sasuke gaining the Rinnegan Madara said that he didn't obtain the Rinnegan until years later and just having Senju DNA dose not guarantee that you will obtain the Rinnegan, as Danzo had both Senju and Uchiha DNA and yet he did not have any Rinnegans.

 

If you look at how Sasuke refused to transplant his brother's eyes at first to achieve the EMS but decided to do it anyway after briefly fighting with Naruto, you'll see how he would never place pride over his main objectives. Fleeing the Leaf to train with Orochimaru is another clear example. If he realizes he can't beat Naruto in his current level, nothing will stop him to achieve more power. He doesn't necessarily need to get the Rinnegan but it is a very reasonable option.

 

The Rinnegan is the ultimate evolution of the Sharingan and the exact requirements to achieve it were never shown, but we can still develop some theories based on Madara's story. There are three factors to consider: the first two are the Senju cells and most importantly the EMS. No one besides him have ever had those two together, that's why Obito and Danzou weren't able to awaken the Rinnegan.

The final factor is when Madara finally achieved it, near the end of his lifespan.

 

About Sasuke: he has Orochimaru as a potential ally which make things a lot easier if he ever considers using the Senju Cells, and he has the EMS which makes him the second Shinobi to ever achieve those eyes.

The last one is where things get a little complicated: we don't know exactly what if a person needs to have a certain age before achieving the Rinnegan or if  the trigger is simply a near death experience.

 

So no one can know for sure if or how Sasuke will get the Rinnegan but all I can say is he definetly is the perfect candidate: He is the only one that has the right eyes, the cells are obtainable and a near death experience (if it's the case) is something very plausible in a war or against Naruto at the final fight. Not to mention he is a main character after all, he will need a power boost and he evolved his Sharingan to the near ultimate level so why would he stop there? 

 

And of course this is just my opinion. ;)


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:45 AM

 

If you look at how Sasuke refused to transplant his brother's eyes at first to achieve the EMS but decided to do it anyway after briefly fighting with Naruto, you'll see how he would never place pride over his main objectives. Fleeing the Leaf to train with Orochimaru is another clear example. If he realizes he can't beat Naruto in his current level, nothing will stop him to achieve more power. He doesn't necessarily need to get the Rinnegan but it is a very reasonable option.

 

The Rinnegan is the ultimate evolution of the Sharingan and the exact requirements to achieve it were never shown, but we can still develop some theories based on Madara's story. There are three factors to consider: the first two are the Senju cells and most importantly the EMS. No one besides him have ever had those two together, that's why Obito and Danzou weren't able to awaken the Rinnegan.

The final factor is when Madara finally achieved it, near the end of his lifespan.

 

About Sasuke: he has Orochimaru as a potential ally which make things a lot easier if he ever considers using the Senju Cells, and he has the EMS which makes him the second Shinobi to ever achieve those eyes.

The last one is where things get a little complicated: we don't know exactly what if a person needs to have a certain age before achieving the Rinnegan or if  the trigger is simply a near death experience.

 

So no one can know for sure if or how Sasuke will get the Rinnegan but all I can say is he definetly is the perfect candidate: He is the only one that has the right eyes, the cells are obtainable and a near death experience (if it's the case) is something very plausible in a war or against Naruto at the final fight. Not to mention he is a main character after all, he will need a power boost and he evolved his Sharingan to the near ultimate level so why would he stop there? 

 

And of course this is just my opinion. ;)

 

There is no tactical advantage for Sasuke to have the Rinnegan since Naruto already knows how he can counter the Rinnegan's abilities, plus even with the Rinnegan Sasuke would never be able to match Nagato's abilities with it because he dose not have the experience nor the Chakra supply to rival Nagato's mastery with it let alone Madara's.

 

Perfect Susanoo on the other hand, Naruto has never faced he has only seen regular Susanoo twice, once when he Itachi and B fought Nagato and then when Sasuke was plowing through the Jubi clones. Because of this Naruto would have a harder time dealing with Perfect Susanoo then he would the Rinnegan.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:54 AM

^ Plus, We've never seen a clear image of Sasuke's evolved Susanoo.  From what we gather when he eliminated those Zetsu, that thing is capable of firing Amaterasu from its palms. We have yet to get to good look at that thing and know all its abilities.  Also, Sasuke has kept that thing in reserve ever since then, hinting that when he uses it, it's going to be of major plot relevance. 


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:56 AM

Naruto won't exactly confes and say "I love you " but he will kiss Sakura's forehead and tell her " I always wanted to do that " since he told Sakura that both him and Sasuke will die . Sakura will cry and she will tell him she is in love with him .

that's a good ending. i really like to see that

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:06 AM

 

There is no tactical advantage for Sasuke to have the Rinnegan since Naruto already knows how he can counter the Rinnegan's abilities, plus even with the Rinnegan Sasuke would never be able to match Nagato's abilities with it because he dose not have the experience nor the Chakra supply to rival Nagato's mastery with it let alone Madara's.

 

Perfect Susanoo on the other hand, Naruto has never faced he has only seen regular Susanoo twice, once when he Itachi and B fought Nagato and then when Sasuke was plowing through the Jubi clones. Because of this Naruto would have a harder time dealing with Perfect Susanoo then he would the Rinnegan.

 

I agree in parts. The Rinnegan would be a plausible and helpful boost despite Naruto having already fought against it but I see what you meant when it comes to chakra.

 

The Perfect Susanoo part I completely agree. Madara though only used the Perfect Susanoo after he activated the Rinnegan against he Hokages. This could be an evidence that the Rinnegan is indeed a Sharingan evolution and so it would boost it's skills to a higher degree like Madara's Susanoo.

^ Plus, We've never seen a clear image of Sasuke's evolved Susanoo.  From what we gather when he eliminated those Zetsu, that thing is capable of firing Amaterasu from its palms. We have yet to get to good look at that thing and know all its abilities.  Also, Sasuke has kept that thing in reserve ever since then, hinting that when he uses it, it's going to be of major plot relevance. 

 

I still think he would be outmatched. Not to mention Naruto so far only has half of the Kyuubi's chakra and his father present will probably have something to do with it (and his birthday which is tomorrow). 


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:14 AM

@darkness
Actually there's a way to achive near death experience. If you remember how sasuke gain his version 2 cursed seal, that's how sasuke gain it, by once again (fake) death.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:46 AM

 

I agree in parts. The Rinnegan would be a plausible and helpful boost despite Naruto having already fought against it but I see what you meant when it comes to chakra.

 

The Perfect Susanoo part I completely agree. Madara though only used the Perfect Susanoo after he activated the Rinnegan against he Hokages. This could be an evidence that the Rinnegan is indeed a Sharingan evolution and so it would boost it's skills to a higher degree like Madara's Susanoo.

 

I still think he would be outmatched. Not to mention Naruto so far only has half of the Kyuubi's chakra and his father present will probably have something to do with it (and his birthday which is tomorrow). 

 

@Bolded: that is debatable as we don't know if it was perfect Susanoo that Madara used to cover Kurama during his Fight with Hashirama or not. Plus we can't tell the difference between Perfect Susanoo and a complete reglular Susanoo at this point.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:43 AM

You know what... I was thinking... Naruto thanked almost everybody, told them his appreciation for them because, yadda yadda...

But I noticed that he kinda never did it with Sakura, that way....

I was thinking, maybe he'll do it in the confession? I mean, look at NH fandom. They're all... Whoaa even Naruto noticed she's been there for him the whole time.
And I can't help to think... Naruto, you dumbass, what about Sakura?!
What do you think? [it was a thing that went through my mind as I was falling asleep last night, lol]


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:48 AM

You know what... I was thinking... Naruto thanked almost everybody, told them his appreciation for them because, yadda yadda...

But I noticed that he kinda never did it with Sakura, that way....

I was thinking, maybe he'll do it in the confession? I mean, look at NH fandom. They're all... Whoaa even Naruto noticed she's been there for him the whole time.
And I can't help to think... Naruto, you dumbass, what about Sakura?!
What do you think? [it was a thing that went through my mind as I was falling asleep last night, lol]

Lol I got to sleep myself.

 

Anyway, Naruto sees her in a much more special light in his heart. In fact, he can thank her in the confession or whenever they finally get together. One heart-warming thank you from him is all it takes. Remember, Naruto still needs to show the level of his love for her. That day awaits.






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