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#6981 luffyq1

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:02 PM

 

Don't even say it, at the time Pein was wrecking everything I was like "man this is going to change the manga completely ..." but then Kishimoto had to take that Rinne Tensei thing out of his ass, I mean, why didn't Nagato used it when Yahiko died? 

yeah a lot of people were wondering the same thing. it was a convenient ass pull.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:04 PM

lol
That's something to think about, I never even got even a second of thinking that ending will be so horrible, there was 2 "bad" endings in my view, Naruto would sacrifies his life (even taking Sasuke with him) and that would be horrible, but in general it would be realistic way to stop circle of hatred I wonder what Sakura would do if she saw them both dead. Or Naruto winning but both Sasuke and Sakura dies, and ending would be in a way of Yakura 1 for PS2 was. 

Though the third game suggested that cop lady to be the one to fill the hole of love interest, but that only said in the intro. Lol. I guess that would be Hinata then? Oh god, scratch that...

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:05 PM

The end of the Pain arc sucked, but everything else before that was great. I actually consider it the last truly good arc in the series. Great fights plus good development for Naruto. His decision not to kill Pain despite his hatred showed great maturity on his part.

Shame that Pain was the last interesting and compelling antagonist.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:05 PM

Same. I loved the anime during part 1. Wind still makes me tear up. I stopped watching at the time skip filler though.

 

Ugh, I don't consider those stupid fillers part of Naruto part 1, seriously not even the NS themed one, they got me on my nerves


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:06 PM

Don't even say it, at the time Pein was wrecking everything I was like "man this is going to change the manga completely ..." but then Kishimoto had to take that Rinne Tensei thing out of his ass, I mean, why didn't Nagato used it when Yahiko died?

Because there was Hanzo, and he didn't know it yet? And sacrificing his life for Yahiko... I wonder what Yahiko would say, not even a clue what would say Konan, she was intrested character, not like any other female we saw in Naruto universe.

Though the third game suggested that cop lady to be the one to fill the hole of love interest, but that only said in the intro. Lol. I guess that would be Hinata then? Oh god, scratch that...

Yuck, I didn't go that far, but you get what I mean, right? He lost everything he ever cared for last 10 years, left with nothing. And for Naruto it would be this. In a game he was left with a daughter of his beloved one, I personaly hate this kind o story watch as Sasuke will be doing this, trolololo because it's pictures "fate" of someone you love tied up with you in a pretty f**cked up manner.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:09 PM

Because there was Hanzo, and he didn't know it yet? And sacrificing his life for Yahiko... I wonder what Yahiko would say, not even a clue what would say Konan, she was intrested character, not like any other female we saw in Naruto universe.

The weird part was that thing whatever that was, revived one of the Pain easily with no problem. I don't get it. He was going to be the guy to sacrifice his life for Madara, so what's the difference. In fact, Yahiko being revived over Madara would make more sense for Nagato. Hell, you can say why didn't he do that when reviving Konoha. Why not revive Jiraiya while you're at it.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:09 PM

Because there was Hanzo, and he didn't know it yet? And sacrificing his life for Yahiko... I wonder what Yahiko would say, not even a clue what would say Konan, she was intrested character, not like any other female we saw in Naruto universe.

 

Yeah this was a possibility, I wonder how he  discovered the secrets of the rinnegan like the Rinne Tensei , I'd guess Tobi must've told him or something like that, but then it begs the question of how madara learned about it and told Tobi since Madara was the first person with a Rinnegan since a long time... 

Agh anyway, thinking about Kishi's messy storyline gives me pain


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:11 PM

i thought the buildup towards the arc, pain destroying konoha, pain's speech and kakashi vs pain is what i enjoyed in the arc. naruto vs pain was kinda lackluster to me considering how good of a buildup it had, but i did enjoy his entrance and his training though. 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:11 PM

lol

That's something to think about, I never even got even a second of thinking that ending will be so horrible, there was 2 "bad" endings in my view, Naruto would sacrifies his life (even taking Sasuke with him) and that would be horrible, but in general it would be realistic way to stop circle of hatred I wonder what Sakura would do if she saw them both dead. Or Naruto winning but both Sasuke and Sakura dies, and ending would be in a way of Yakura 1 for PS2 was. 

Naruto and Sasuke dying would be better than that character assassination we had BUT, it wouldn't be good because, Naruto's story was first about him becoming Hokage and get everything he wants, I understand that Sasuke was "standing in the way"..

And imo, Kishi's error was to add that "cycle or hatred" in the story and all that destiny thing... to sum up, he should have stopped at the pain arc, add the naruto vs Sasuke thing and Naruto becoming hokage after being recognized by everyone, and marrying Sakura, and Naruto becoming friends with Kurama..that's how a shonen manga is supposed to end. He went too deep with all that peace thing, too much that kishi didn't even know the answer... 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:12 PM

The weird part was that thing whatever that was, revived one of the Pain easily with no problem. I don't get it. He was going to be the guy to sacrifice his life for Madara, so what's the difference. In fact, Yahiko being revived over Madara would make more sense for Nagato. Hell, you can say why didn't he do that when reviving Konoha. Why not revive Jiraiya while you're at it.

 

I think one of the reasons of Rinne Tensei is that you need to have the body right? so with edo tensei and rinne tensei you can revive pretty much anyone you like...talk about being OP 

 

I still wonder why Kabuto didn't use Jiraya in the edo tensei


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:13 PM

i thought the buildup towards the arc, pain destroying konoha, pain's speech and kakashi vs pain is what i enjoyed in the arc. naruto vs pain was kinda lackluster to me considering how good of a buildup it had, but i did enjoy his entrance and his training though. 

It was still good though. Maybe less Rasengan would be ok, but none the less, I enjoyed it. Plus, it was pretty cool to have him toss that Rhino.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:14 PM

 
I think one of the reasons of Rinne Tensei is that you need to have the body right? so with edo tensei and rinne tensei you can revive pretty much anyone you like...talk about being OP 
 
I still wonder why Kabuto didn't use Jiraya in the edo tensei

I think so? Actually, Madara said why he was revived as Edo as to say, "Why am I not revived as a human being?" Pretty much saying that the Jutsu can revive anyone, presence or not. That's a loop hole.

And why Kabuto didn't revive Konan? I guess he was sexist as well.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:15 PM

 
I think one of the reasons of Rinne Tensei is that you need to have the body right? so with edo tensei and rinne tensei you can revive pretty much anyone you like...talk about being OP 
 
I still wonder why Kabuto didn't use Jiraya in the edo tensei


Kabuto pointed out to Obito that he couldn't because Jiraya's body sank all the way down to the bottom of the ocean. The water pressure would have crushed him

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:15 PM

Naruto and Sasuke dying would be better than that character assassination we had BUT, it wouldn't be good because, Naruto's story was first about him becoming Hokage and get everything he wants, I understand that Sasuke was "standing in the way"..

And imo, Kishi's error was to add that "cycle or hatred" in the story and all that destiny thing... to sum up, he should have stopped at the pain arc, add the naruto vs Sasuke thing and Naruto becoming hokage after being recognized by everyone, and marrying Sakura, and Naruto becoming friends with Kurama..that's how a shonen manga is supposed to end. He went too deep with all that peace thing, too much that kishi didn't even know the answer... 

 

Exactly, if he wanted to end simple he should have kept things simple, he went too deep and wasnt able to write accordingly 

 

 

i thought the buildup towards the arc, pain destroying konoha, pain's speech and kakashi vs pain is what i enjoyed in the arc. naruto vs pain was kinda lackluster to me considering how good of a buildup it had, but i did enjoy his entrance and his training though. 

 

The part I liked best was his fight while he was with that badass cloak ! 

I will forever lament the fact that Kishimoto didn't made that change permanent, Naruto would look so cool...


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:17 PM

Kabuto pointed out to Obito that he couldn't because Jiraya's body sank all the way down to the bottom of the ocean. The water pressure would have crushed him

 

Oh, I guess this was explained then. Thanks

 

 

I think so? Actually, Madara said why he was revived as Edo as to say, "Why am I not revived as a human being?" Pretty much saying that the Jutsu can revive anyone, presence or not. That's a loop hole.

And why Kabuto didn't revive Konan? I guess he was sexist as well.

 

Konan shouldn't have died like that in first place, period  :pimp:


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:19 PM

I had to come back from what I witnessed on tumblr & got an explanation (thanks to Konan-Sama) about shikamaru's novel.

Basically Sakura getting no credit as a legendary sannin or getting recognition as a heroine from the war. Only naruto, sasuke, & KAKASHI.... If that's not sexism I don't know what is. :zaru:

It's official. I hate Naruto. & I hate Kishimoto(even more if that's even possible)

Welp, sorry...but I'm unfollowing many blogs that are involved with naruto. Cause at this point I'm sick of seeing anything related to naruto.

 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:19 PM

The weird part was that thing whatever that was, revived one of the Pain easily with no problem. I don't get it. He was going to be the guy to sacrifice his life for Madara, so what's the difference. In fact, Yahiko being revived over Madara would make more sense for Nagato. Hell, you can say why didn't he do that when reviving Konoha. Why not revive Jiraiya while you're at it.

You mean what? That Hell Realm thing resurected only body structure, none of dead bodies was back to life. Rinne Tensei is thing that Nagato sacrificed his life for. He would never ressurect Madara, that was obvious from his POV. Rinne Tensei saving someone with body structure didn't ok in generaly. Yahika was dead long time ago, and Jiraiya was on the bottom of the sea, so he coudn't do it, other thing, he bring all of Kohona on his own chakra, I doubt that his chakra had enough power to go to another country and down into the sea.



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:20 PM

It was still good though. Maybe less Rasengan would be ok, but none the less, I enjoyed it. Plus, it was pretty cool to have him toss that Rhino.

rhino tossing was cool, but other than that i can't say i enjoyed it. i think the only naruto fights i enjoyed were vs gaara and vs sasuke lol.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:22 PM

I guess recent characters death shouldn't get revived. Right, Kisame, Konan?

I find it very bs that Kabuto happened to have people that was from the first arc or about everyone from the series and more. I mean Haku and Zabuza, what a catch.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:23 PM

You mean what? That Hell Realm thing resurected only body structure, none of dead bodies was back to life. Rinne Tensei is thing that Nagato sacrificed his life for. He would never ressurect Madara, that was obvious from his POV. Rinne Tensei saving someone with body structure didn't ok in generaly. Yahika was dead long time ago, and Jiraiya was on the bottom of the sea, so he coudn't do it, other thing, he bring all of Kohona on his own chakra, I doubt that his chakra had enough power to go to another country and down into the sea.

I guess. The confusing part is when Madara complained that he was revived as a edo rather than human.





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