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#6981 sushi.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

That's not the worst, Rock Lee was facepalming XXD

And btw, Mikoto doesn't look like a tsundere to me. She seems to be a calm and levelheaded person, and her husband doesn't seem to need a high tempered woman.

Edited by sushi., 21 December 2012 - 10:17 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:30 AM

About Mikoto i'm sorry but after all the scenes that she appears she's not a tsundere and does not get even close to it, she looks like Ino to me.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 21 2012, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont get why this scene could be significant. Its just a flashback to see what sakura told them right?
Or is there something that i dont know. Can some one tell me what you guys mean that this could mean for the future? I dont know anything.

I bought it up because the flashback ended with Sakura saying "And...", so I want to know what that additional piece of information could be.

Maybe it's relevant, maybe it isn't, but I want to know why did Kishi chose to withhold part of what she told to the rookies from the readers knowledge.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 21 2012, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I bought it up because the flashback ended with Sakura saying "And...", so I want to know what that additional piece of information could be.

Maybe it's relevant, maybe it isn't, but I want to know why did Kishi chose to withhold part of what she told to the rookies from the readers knowledge.

No i really doubt that it was something relevant. It dont know what special she could say to the rookies about naruto. For sure nothing including romance.
It could also be a wrong translation.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Dec 21 2012, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No i really doubt that it was something relevant. It dont know what special she could say to the rookies about naruto. For sure nothing including romance.
It could also be a wrong translation.

We know that this and.. is naruto.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:07 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 21 2012, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We know that this and.. is naruto.

What? laugh.gif Dont get it

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

Maybe Kishi could give us the entire confession some time, in a flashback. After all, it began when Naruto said "What did you say, Sakura?"
I don't get how Kishi can bring the "and" up again, but I feel like she just gave Naruto a list of reasons she could love him.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Dec 21 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Kishi could give us the entire confession some time, in a flashback. After all, it began when Naruto said "What did you say, Sakura?"
I don't get how Kishi can bring the "and" up again, but I feel like she just gave Naruto a list of reasons she could love him.

I dont think so the only thing i get there is that she's capable of really loving him someday.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:00 PM

The "and" in this scene means that she was demanding from Kiba and Lee and Sai to go with her. That or it was just the continue of her talk that she was giving which Kishi stopped the flashback of Kiba at this point.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:58 PM

Awsome posts man...took me a while to catch up...anyways, i was on NF y'know the narusaku FC that paptala owns, yeah so there was this guy that totally made a carbon copy of my first thread on icha icha narusaku, if you want go read it, its about the haruno symbol present on narutos latest kyuubi transformation.I FOUND THAT OUT FIRSTTTT rawr.gif but ahh what the heck hahaha lol.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:58 PM

So good easy to pwn a NH fan on my forum just with this

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he said that sakura didint have romantic feelings for naruto and she views him only as a friend.

I responded with this and more arguments and a sage to hurt his feelings.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:38 AM

I did somethingthat I shouldn't have done, I was on Sawyer7mage's video, and I was debating...It got out of hand...I can't believe the amount of people who think NH is so canon now, LOTS of people said I was crazy...that Kishi was clearly hinting at NH ...I tried to mention all the development of NS, but it's like....all they can recall is seeing Hinata lately....and her "holding his hand " comment... one person told me that team 8 all ship NH. th_twitchsmile.gif


Oh, and my fave... one person said that Neji gave his blessing for Naruto to marry Hinata.


There was also MANY comments about them naming their kid "Neji" with around 17 or more thumbs up... facepalm.png

I tried to be reasonable, explain all the things that they claimed made NS "not canon" Also...I don't know what it is... but I HATE it when I get replies from people who try to tell me I'm not clever, but they can't spell ANYTHING correctly...I....Have to hold myself back from saying something I would regret... heheelq7.png

I know what you all are most likely going to say... I should NOT have gone on that video and tried to counter some comments... for some reason, it was hard seeing hundreds of NH fans saying it's canon now....or ...saying that Naruto would be a complete ass if he doesn't love her back... ( pointing out that she saved his life twice...) I pointed out that Sakura has saved Naruto and Sasuke's life twice just in part 1 alone...but...well... I think at least 5 or more NH fans were all countering me at the same time....I actally held up well considering I think I lasted about 3 days... on and off. headscratch.gif well.. anyway...I'm not doing THAT again... let this message be a warning to all of you....Those NH fans are CRAZY right now... arg.gif wallbash.gif

Oh, and they talk about Sakura like she is Satan's daughter or something... dry.gif And Hinata is this pure angel that can do no wrong... th_twitchsmile.gif

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:44 AM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Dec 22 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did somethingthat I shouldn't have done, I was on Sawyer7mage's video, and I was debating...It got out of hand...I can't believe the amount of people who think NH is so canon now, LOTS of people said I was crazy...that Kishi was clearly hinting at NH ...I tried to mention all the development of NS, but it's like....all they can recall is seeing Hinata lately....and her "holding his hand " comment... one person told me that team 8 all ship NH. th_twitchsmile.gif


Oh, and my fave... one person said that Neji gave his blessing for Naruto to marry Hinata.


There was also MANY comments about them naming their kid "Neji" with around 17 or more thumbs up... facepalm.png

I tried to be reasonable, explain all the things that they claimed made NS "not canon" Also...I don't know what it is... but I HATE it when I get replies from people who try to tell me I'm not clever, but they can't spell ANYTHING correctly...I....Have to hold myself back from saying something I would regret... heheelq7.png

I know what you all are most likely going to say... I should NOT have gone on that video and tried to counter some comments... for some reason, it was hard seeing hundreds of NH fans saying it's canon now....or ...saying that Naruto would be a complete ass if he doesn't love her back... ( pointing out that she saved his life twice...) I pointed out that Sakura has saved Naruto and Sasuke's life twice just in part 1 alone...but...well... I think at least 5 or more NH fans were all countering me at the same time....I actally held up well considering I think I lasted about 3 days... on and off. headscratch.gif well.. anyway...I'm not doing THAT again... let this message be a warning to all of you....Those NH fans are CRAZY right now... arg.gif wallbash.gif

Oh, and they talk about Sakura like she is Satan's daughter or something... dry.gif And Hinata is this pure angel that can do no wrong... th_twitchsmile.gif


The mistake here was reading the comments on Sawyer7mage videos reviewing a chapter that Hinata had even the slightest amount of panel time with Naruto. I haven't watch Sawyer's reviews in three weeks. I knew if I did, I would end up debating and then getting pissed off. I figured they'd be shouting "NaruHina Canon!" to the hills on his video so I decided not to even bother. Looks like I was right.facepalm.png I regret nothing.

I realized I'm not really bothered by Sawer7mage's NaruHina bias. He's not a hardcore NH fan, just some preference. It's his followers that make me go apes*t. dry.gif

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:07 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 23 2012, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So good easy to pwn a NH fan on my forum just with this

http://i22.mangaread...naruto-5799.jpg

he said that sakura didint have romantic feelings for naruto and she views him only as a friend.

I responded with this and more arguments and a sage to hurt his feelings.

I swear all NH fans never read this chapter

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:23 AM

Oh gosh. I haven't watched a video from Sawyer7mage in years. He's so biased, I just can't bring myself to watch anymore. I don't know why he has such a huge following. I used to be alright with watching his videos, but there was one he made where he was subtly attacking NS fans, but trying to cover it up at the same time, and at the end he said he didn't want to hear any responses to his comments. I thought that was really immature and cowardly. StriderCrestone, lordofice72, and myself ended up making a response video just to point out his hypocrisy. I haven't watched any of his videos since.

If you want to see a well thought-out chapter review without all of the pairing arguments, I recommend TwilightLink21xx's channel. He's a NaruSaku fan, so there is a little bit of bias in his reviews, but it's not nearly as bad as Sawyer7mage. He actually discusses what's going on in the series instead of re-capping the chapters or shoving pairing fodder down your throat. For each chapter, he looks at character development, where Kishimoto is taking the story, how the plot is developing, hypothesis' as to why it's developing that way, the artwork, etc... He also refers to the official translations, which is lovely. Just another step to avoid any bias, because let's face it, fan translations always have bias. He is very good at making videos and deserves to have a lot more people watching! So, if anyone is sick of crappy chapter reviews, go check him out and see what you think. smile.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 23 December 2012 - 04:57 AM.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:29 AM

Oh my dears, Naruto could kiss, propose and make babies with Sakura-chan and it would make no difference to them..

Oh, and Yusuke, next time you're in a debate.. Allow me to join; I've p.o'd more than a few of them. (Oh, I enjoy the rush of debating with.. people.. who've no comprehension of a "pairing" moment.)

Seeing as they've never had a moment.

Excuse me if I come as a bit heated.. It's just been one of those days.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Dec 23 2012, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh my dears, Naruto could kiss, propose and make babies with Sakura-chan and it would make no difference to them..

Oh, and Yusuke, next time you're in a debate.. Allow me to join; I've p.o'd more than a few of them. (Oh, I enjoy the rush of debating with.. people.. who've no comprehension of a "pairing" moment.)

Seeing as they've never had a moment.

Excuse me if I come as a bit heated.. It's just been one of those days.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 22 2012, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you want to see a well thought-out chapter review without all of the pairing arguments, I recommend TwilightLink21xx's channel. He's a NaruSaku fan, so there is a little bit of bias in his reviews, but it's not nearly as bad as Sawyer7mage. He actually discusses what's going on in the series instead of re-capping the chapters or shoving pairing fodder down your throat. For each chapter, he looks at character development, where Kishimoto is taking the story, how the plot is developing, hypothesis' as to why it's developing that way, the artwork, etc... He also refers to the official translations, which is lovely. Just another step to avoid any bias, because let's face it, fan translations always have bias. He is very good at making videos and deserves to have a lot more people watching! So, if anyone is sick of crappy chapter reviews, go check him out and see what you think. smile.gif


Oh my gosh I watch his reviews all the time. Honestly keeps me going sometimes :3. I remember when Sakura's confession came out and I was a little down, but his videos and lordofice's ones made me feel a little better tongue.gif So yes I second this. sleep.gif

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 23 2012, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh gosh. I haven't watched a video from Sawyer7mage in years. He's so biased, I just can't bring myself to watch anymore. I don't know why he has such a huge following. I used to be alright with watching his videos, but there was one he made where he was subtly attacking NS fans, but trying to cover it up at the same time, and at the end he said he didn't want to hear any responses to his comments. I thought that was really immature and cowardly. StriderCrestone, lordofice72, and myself ended up making a response video just to point out his hypocrisy. I haven't watched any of his videos since.

If you want to see a well thought-out chapter review without all of the pairing arguments, I recommend TwilightLink21xx's channel. He's a NaruSaku fan, so there is a little bit of bias in his reviews, but it's not nearly as bad as Sawyer7mage. He actually discusses what's going on in the series instead of re-capping the chapters or shoving pairing fodder down your throat. For each chapter, he looks at character development, where Kishimoto is taking the story, how the plot is developing, hypothesis' as to why it's developing that way, the artwork, etc... He also refers to the official translations, which is lovely. Just another step to avoid any bias, because let's face it, fan translations always have bias. He is very good at making videos and deserves to have a lot more people watching! So, if anyone is sick of crappy chapter reviews, go check him out and see what you think. smile.gif

Top comment on Chapter 614 review for Sawyer7mage: "Please kill SAKURA I'm sick of her can anyone say burden and useless"
Sigh....... so, fkn, delusional

Edit: OH GOD ITS VJ! He just referred to himself in the third person....

Edited by Chucky-kun, 23 December 2012 - 10:43 AM.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Dec 23 2012, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The mistake here was reading the comments on Sawyer7mage videos reviewing a chapter that Hinata had even the slightest amount of panel time with Naruto. I haven't watch Sawyer's reviews in three weeks. I knew if I did, I would end up debating and then getting pissed off. I figured they'd be shouting "NaruHina Canon!" to the hills on his video so I decided not to even bother. Looks like I was right.facepalm.png I regret nothing.

I realized I'm not really bothered by Sawer7mage's NaruHina bias. He's not a hardcore NH fan, just some preference. It's his followers that make me go apes*t. dry.gif

I cant imagine Naruto's kids being a hyuuga for real.
I simply cant, it's ugly, and does not have chemistry.

I dont like debating because i dont like to force my thoughts on others but seriously the ammount of retarded arguments are so huge and the people re-writing it all the time.
One time a guy told me that Naruto and Sakura does not have logic, i replied with did you see Minato and Kushina do you know that they are based on the Naruto and Sakura relationship do you know, then i complete with " what does not have logic is since chapter 3 naruto loves sakura and reinforced with sai's flashback and suddenly with no reason he falls in love with Hinata".
My luck is 3 Ns fans joined the debate but we were 8 people debating we all got 1 week of ban for shipping.
Reason of my ban : "Sakura still loves sasuke and Naruto is a Beta".
NH ban reason : "Hinata got friendzoned and she's useless".

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 December 2012 - 11:07 AM.

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