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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:11 PM

btw, chatte.... you're pretty sure that a NS momenti will be incoming after this, isn't?

Yup.. :) And I fear that's gonna be a huge one but not the last. After we're done with NH and SS (cause I still think we're not totally done), it will come the ones that will come to full circle in regards to Sakura -> Naruto moves.

Mark my words that the definitive one will be the forehead kiss!

 

For who doesn't believe it, I'll just say few things: Kishi is using a lot of Japanese typologies which seem of course, okay cuz in the end it's his manga, but in the love department, he'll do exactly like it happened in Heroes with Hiro and that girl (can't remember her name) with Takezo Kensei's story. The Sakura revelation or NaruSaku revelation will be exactly played like it happened there with Hiro and Kensei;s story.

Let me see if I'll find a video. :)

But mark my words: forehead kiss will bring chaos and destruction of all other pairings and will set NS for canon.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:16 PM

Sorry guys, I really don't have the courage and the time to read those 34 pages ! LOL

 

I loved this chapter I knew it that Sakura would force Sasuke to recognize her and she was badass removing her clothes quick and I love everything she said to Obito. Now Sasuke is forced to be thankful to her and Obito.

I was surprised that the real Naruto didn't get into the dimension, I really thought so ^^ But I knew it was a clone in front of Kaguya

 

I don't know what to say and I don't have much time to talk right now.

I'm sure SS fans will be bragging around about this chapter. LOL

I personally think it's very good because Sasuke will acknowledge Sakura now and he might be less rude to her. That's good.

 

Also, what Obito said was a subbtle NaruSaku hint. Like those Kishimoto made in the past with Yamato and Sai. Someone say something about Sakura's feelings to Naruto, and she react with a " ? " as if she doesn't understand what the person is talking about. It's fuelling AGAIN the fact that Sakura doesn't really know what are her feelings about Naruto.
And it's also about Rin and Obito. IMO

The fact that's Obito that is saying that to her, with that kind of a face, it's really telling a lot about his understanding about Rin's real feelings for him.

For those who are doubting Obito was talking about Naruto, to me it's obvious because Sakura talked about how Naruto failed just before, but how he give them a chance to succeed. What Obito said was a response about it.

 

Also, Naruto understood that Obito and Sakura are in the core dimension, and he put all his faith in them to find Sasuke because he just want to prevent them to be found by Kaguya. He's not planning anymore to go himself. He's planning to keep her engaged enough for her to stay with him in the ice dimension. He's protecting them.

 

I think Sakura's jacket is in the desert because Sasuke exchange his position with the position of the jacket.

Universe is about equilibrium. You just can't go somewhere like that without exchanging with something else. It's common in a lot of japanese stories.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:19 PM

Glad to know everyone has calm down the suppose "SS moment". Some have already pointed that Sasuke has finally come to acknowledge, and I see it in the same matter as Naruto acknowledging Hinata. There's no love and I believe Sasuke's acknowledgement is positive for NS. With this Sakura can finally move on and embrace her feelings for Naruto. I don't care what the fandom says we all know that in this manga one panel of physical contact doesn't make a pairing canon. SS fans are jumping the gun just like NH fandom.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:20 PM

I really enjoyed this chapter, Sakura was outstanding!


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:22 PM

I just found the girl's name: Yaeko. Only that I don't find on YouTube that particular scene... But it plays something like this: Takezo Kensei is a guy who was supposed to be a big legend only that he's not so Hiro, in order to save the legend, takes up as Takezo Kensei, only that he wears a mask. Does something really cute for Yaeko, only that under the mask of Kensei. So she believes that all those nice things were done by Kensei, the real one who was actually Adam, a guy stuck in the past. 
Anyway, the point is, that guy Adam doesn't fulfill his duties as Takezo Kensei and as I said, Hiro takes his place.. They fight together, at a point, Adam, the guy who's supposed to be the "real" Takezo Kensei gets kidnapped, so then, Yaeko and Hiro swore to fight to bring him back...

Long story short, with some complications in-between (Adam really gets to like Yaeko in the end although at first he acted like a douche, but in the end it's too late), Yaeko asks Takezo to take out his mask (aka Hiro). SO in the end, she realizes that all those beautiful things done to her were done by Hiro actually, not Adam and all the things she loved in Adam came from Hiro and so, all this time, without knowing, her heart belonged to Hiro.

Same here... Sakura will realize that all the things she loved in Sasuke (aka the forehead kiss which made her think it was Sasuke) were from Naruto and that all along she actually loved Naruto...


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:28 PM

This atmosphere is more like it. Granted, early yesterday, people seem to be in great spirit. Then somewhere down the line, they just went bipolar (just a way of saying complete change, no offense to those who are) and chaos ensue. But trust me when I say that 615 was way, way worse. Ask any veteran here. That said I like what I see.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:32 PM

Well, I didn't find the exact scene but I found an AMV. You'll get the point


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:33 PM

Yup.. :) And I fear that's gonna be a huge one but not the last. After we're done with NH and SS (cause I still think we're not totally done), it will come the ones that will come to full circle in regards to Sakura -> Naruto moves.

Mark my words that the definitive one will be the forehead kiss!

NH is prettty much done after the IT dream but there will be more twists in SS case. Sakura may start trusting Sasuke again but it will be at breaking point when he will tries to kill Naruto and its pretty guaranteed he will attempt that. I'm hoping at that moment she will land a punch or two on Sasuke-koon ,maybe beat Tsunade's 100 metre record  :plots:


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

I just found the girl's name: Yaeko. Only that I don't find on YouTube that particular scene... But it plays something like this: Takezo Kensei is a guy who was supposed to be a big legend only that he's not so Hiro, in order to save the legend, takes up as Takezo Kensei, only that he wears a mask. Does something really cute for Yaeko, only that under the mask of Kensei. So she believes that all those nice things were done by Kensei, the real one who was actually Adam, a guy stuck in the past. 
Anyway, the point is, that guy Adam doesn't fulfill his duties as Takezo Kensei and as I said, Hiro takes his place.. They fight together, at a point, Adam, the guy who's supposed to be the "real" Takezo Kensei gets kidnapped, so then, Yaeko and Hiro swore to fight to bring him back...

Long story short, with some complications in-between (Adam really gets to like Yaeko in the end although at first he acted like a douche, but in the end it's too late), Yaeko asks Takezo to take out his mask (aka Hiro). SO in the end, she realizes that all those beautiful things done to her were done by Hiro actually, not Adam and all the things she loved in Adam came from Hiro and so, all this time, without knowing, her heart belonged to Hiro.

Same here... Sakura will realize that all the things she loved in Sasuke (aka the forehead kiss which made her think it was Sasuke) were from Naruto and that all along she actually loved Naruto...

 

It funny I thought about Naruto and Sakura back then while I was watching this part of heroes.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:45 PM

NH is prettty much done after the IT dream but there will be more twists in SS case. Sakura may start trusting Sasuke again but it will be at breaking point when he will tries to kill Naruto and its pretty guaranteed he will attempt that. I'm hoping at that moment she will land a punch or two on Sasuke-koon ,maybe beat Tsunade's 100 metre record  :plots:

Innocent until proven guilty.

Ok, it doesn't apply here but what does apply is the scene if there's anything more to it. You can't assume, you got to know. Anyway, to me, NH lost the credibility due to the recent events, so it can only be resurrected to my eyes if SS actually pulls through. That's going to be hard. So in a way, NH, meh, complete fanservice by now. SS, what is it you want to tell me, Kishi?

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:49 PM

 

It funny I thought about Naruto and Sakura back then while I was watching this part of heroes.

I know right? There's so much NaruSaku in that part of the story that kills me. I was like "Oh, look... That's so Naruto and Sakura!" at every interaction they had! I am planning to write a full post about the two instances.

 

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:53 PM

Innocent until proven guilty.

Ok, it doesn't apply here but what does apply is the scene if there's anything more to it. You can't assume, you got to know. Anyway, to me, NH lost the credibility due to the recent events, so it can only be resurrected to my eyes if SS actually pulls through. That's going to be hard. So in a way, NH, meh, complete fanservice by now. SS, what is it you want to tell me, Kishi?
 

He seems to be dragging it way too long for plot convenience. Just hope the change in Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke gets highlighted next chapter otherwise it just gives ammunition to the Sakura bashers. 


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:00 PM

I know right? There's so much NaruSaku in that part of the story that kills me. I was like "Oh, look... That's so Naruto and Sakura!" at every interaction they had! I am planning to write a full post about the two instances.
 
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That's fine. It's not going anywhere, so you have plenty of time.

He seems to be dragging it way too long for plot convenience. Just hope the change in Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke gets highlighted next chapter otherwise it just gives ammunition to the Sakura bashers. 

Well, this is the closest we can get to Team 7 being together. Now, it's the chance to do a lot of confirmation as well as bringing a development that needed to be solved. Not to mention, there won't be any excuse from all pairings about this and that, mainly how Sakura will evolve. So far, well, hard to say but the follow-up could help it...or ruin it.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

I know right? There's so much NaruSaku in that part of the story that kills me. I was like "Oh, look... That's so Naruto and Sakura!" at every interaction they had! I am planning to write a full post about the two instances.

 

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Yes !

 

 

I really don't understand once again why some fans are afraid by this chapter. The real pairing hint is subtle, and it's about NaruSaku. It's almost hidden, because when you read at first all you see is ACTING. But if you read once more, then the subtle hint is blowing away everything. You suddenly realise it's not that subtle. It's the real important thing.
Kishimoto is not direct when it comes to pairings. It's always subtle. What is 'direct', what is shown to us like it's the biggest thing is here to lead you on the wrong way. Because the writer wants you to be surprised at the end. That's my opinion.
I don't think Kishimoto wants to 'play with pairings'. I think he just want us to be surprise, and he knows that some of the readers will catch the subtle hints and will say at the end : 'I knew it!'. You must see underneath the underneath.
I think Kishimoto is doing good as a writer because he managed to involve us by doing this.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:22 PM

Hey everyone! So can we talk about how Sakura is losing pieces of her uniform the more we progress through these latest chapters? The headband and the vest? And Kishi seems to make a pretty big deal out of both of them? Do you think this is leading into something? Do you think it symbolizes something? I'd really like to hear your opinions!

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:26 PM

Hey everyone! So can we talk about how Sakura is losing pieces of her uniform the more we progress through these latest chapters? The headband and the vest? And Kishi seems to make a pretty big deal out of both of them? Do you think this is leading into something? Do you think it symbolizes something? I'd really like to hear your opinions!

Well, in a strange way, that's a good question. I mean she is really losing a lot of part of her. To think, Naruto getting tore wasn't bad enough, she's losing more than him. Battle damage. I mean it could be a coincidence to have her lose so many, but if that's the case, I demand wind gust equals lose all clothing! I'm kidding. But if there's a point to it, somehow, someway, I'm open for options.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:36 PM

interesting theory chatter.... but I'm pretty sure that Heroes is more young than Naruto about timeline... Heroes started on 2004, Naruto on 2000. But maybe a such story could be from some jap/chinese folklore....


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:43 PM

Well, I didn't find the exact scene but I found an AMV. You'll get the point

I don't know why but I cried.  :umm:


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

I am still curious for the forehead protector part though....

@Chatte If it is how you are saying.....A FOREHEAD KISS IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell yeahh!!!!!!!!


Meh...I don't care about the SS moment..like I already said it yesterday...Sakura was freaking badass this chapter and shoved into that douche's face "Here take this you kitten Uchiha!!! I saved you and you your butt!!!! Now stop calling me useless otherwise I'll release my Hyakugou no chakra and give a rotating kick in your balls!" If you ask me....into that douche's face...what did I just say? Did you guys here me? Into that douche's face...I tell you!

BUT just because I don't care about SS moment doesn't mean I like how the things went. I am actually kind of flowing with it since I know Kishi likes to toy with the pairings and I seriously hate this -_-....but...I choose to ignore this part since we are having enough since yesterday...

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

interesting theory chatter.... but I'm pretty sure that Heroes is more young than Naruto about timeline... Heroes started on 2004, Naruto on 2000. But maybe a such story could be from some jap/chinese folklore....

Oh, ofc! My point was that this "sudden realization of feelings" is something you meet often in Japanese culture when it comes to love, so to speak. 

 

 

I don't know why but I cried.   :umm:

It is very emotional. That story line of Heroes brought to me old feelings I had when I first fell in love with NaruSaku (unconsciously, haha) aka the promise of a lifetime. When I saw how much Naruto suffered and all I was like.. TELL HER YOU LOVE HER U DUMBASS! Lol! And it's the same that happened with Hiro in Heroes, hehe. I felt Hiro's pain like I felt Naruto's.

 

 

I am still curious for the forehead protector part though....

@Chatte If it is how you are saying.....A FOREHEAD KISS IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell yeahh!!!!!!!!


Meh...I don't care about the SS moment...Sakura was freaking badass this chapter and shoved into that douche's face "Here take this you a**hole Uchiha!!! I saved you and you your butt!!!! Now stop calling me useless otherwise I'll release my Hyakugou no chakra and give a rotating kick in your balls!" If you ask me....into that douche's face...what did I just say? Did you guys here me? Into that douche's face...I tell you!

BUT just because I don't care about SS moment doesn't mean I like it. I am actually kind off flowing with it since I know Kishi likes to toy with the pairings and I seriously hate this  -_-....but...I choose to ignore this part since we are having enough since yesterday...

 

I don't know if the forehead kiss is incoming at this right point in time... my bet is that the forehead kiss will be Kishi's trump card for the end. There are still other things that could happen between Sakura and Naruto... But in a way, Sakura's wondering face when everyone points her towards Naruto could be closed nicely by the forehead kiss. :)

 

As for Sakura losing stuff that affiliates her with the Shinobi Alliance and Konoha and all that, I do have a theory in mind... I mean, not theory per se, but a thought...

If it doesn't signify nothing, it doesn't... but IF IT DOES my bet is that is used for purposes such as Sakura moving to the next level, maybe to a demi-god level: aka sage level. I know you must think I'm crazy that I still hold onto SSM, but my guess is that this demi-god level she'll acquire it will be SSM, somehow symbolising this transcending process of hers.. I mean, sage mode is some sort of demigod mode cause if we think about it, the Sage chakra = Sage himself.

I don't know if I am making any sense but hope you get it ^_^


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