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#681 FireFox

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:35 AM

This was a good argument. Btw, not dismissing one of the points you mentioned, just putting my view on that.

 

When Kakashi asked Sasuke about his current dreams and how did he view T7, Naruto's reaction somewhat convinced me that he already knew what was Sasuke's dream and what T7 meant for him. His facial expressions and that '!' suggested that he knew about Sasuke's goals. It seemed like "Oh kitten! Sasuke's in a fix now. He has to tell his goals which are....evil". This goes along the fact that Naruto is always protective of Sasuke however bad he is. 

Yes Naruto knows that Sasuke's dream of being Hokage is up to no good and its not evident just in 675 but also in 631,635 and when Sasuke was about to kill Obito Minato's comment ,  however  he's not being very protective of him in here it just that he knows that he's gonna have to fight him latter but for now he needs Sasuke's help so he can protect everyone so he remains silent about it but his expressions tells you everything . Also Naruto knows that he's the only one who can fight him and in the Kage summit he made his resolve he's not gonna let Sasuke do what he wants its either change Sasuke's view thru beating the living crap out of him or they both die .  


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

Yes Naruto knows that Sasuke's dream of being Hokage is up to no good and its not evident just in 675 but also in 631,635 and when Sasuke was about to kill Obito Minato's comment ,  however  he's not being very protective of him in here it just that he knows that he's gonna have to fight him latter but for now he needs Sasuke's help so he can protect everyone so he remains silent about it but his expressions tells you everything . Also Naruto knows that he's the only one who can fight him and in the Kage summit he made his resolve he's not gonna let Sasuke do what he wants its either change Sasuke's view thru beating the living crap out of him or they both die .  

Yeah. Oh yes about Naruto vs Sasuke. We have three instances of the parallels. One Ashura vs Indra where both of them died fighting. The second one is Hashirama vs Madara where Hasirama won and Madara almost died from that fight. And now it is Naruto vs Sasuke. What do you think, will both of them die or will either of them win this fight? Oh wait, didn't Naruto say something like "If I still can't change you, then I will kill you and I will die with you shouldering your hatred". I don't know how he began his speech but it ended with the exact same words I mentioned.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:03 PM

Yeah. Oh yes about Naruto vs Sasuke. We have three instances of the parallels. One Ashura vs Indra where both of them died fighting. The second one is Hashirama vs Madara where Hasirama won and Madara almost died from that fight. And now it is Naruto vs Sasuke. What do you think, will both of them die or will either of them win this fight? Oh wait, didn't Naruto say something like "If I still can't change you, then I will kill you and I will die with you shouldering your hatred". I don't know how he began his speech but it ended with the exact same words I mentioned.

It was about if he attacks the leaf he will have no choice but to fight him  shouldering his hatred and coming to understand one another in the next world something like that but yeah the way you put it its also correct , but no Naruto's not gonna die he's gonna beat the crap out of the little kitten  that's put in there just for drama purposes that's all Naruto's gonna succeed where  his predecessors failed that's his story .   


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:11 PM

It was about if he attacks the leaf he will have no choice but to fight him  shouldering his hatred and coming to understand one another in the next world something like that but yeah the way you put it its also correct , but no Naruto's not gonna die he's gonna beat the crap out of the little kitten  that's put in there just for drama purposes that's all Naruto's gonna succeed where  his predecessors failed that's his story .   

Oh alright. But Sasuke changed his mind sometime back right? I mean Hashirama freed him from his ill feelings and instantaneously, on a whim he said, 'I am going to protect Konoha!' :/. This fight was supposed to happen if Sasuke was to attack Konoha and so this means the fight is not going to happen, right? :/

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

Oh alright. But Sasuke changed his mind sometime back right? I mean Hashirama freed him from his ill feelings and instantaneously, on a whim he said, 'I am going to protect Konoha!' :/. This fight was supposed to happen if Sasuke was to attack Konoha and so this means the fight is not going to happen, right? :/

Yet he wants to kill Naruto. Here's the thing: we were forced to think Sasuke has gone good JUST because he wants to protect the village. However, we don't know his plan, why? Because it's made to be a twist and all hints are pointing something not good. Could be good for some, but all in all bad. Think as Kira from Death Note. His philosophy isn't bad but it's bad in nature. We know we have bad people and at times, want them dead, so he will grant that. But human nature, it's wrong. Who to Sasuke's tactic is right but overall wrong? Time will tell.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

Yet he wants to kill Naruto. Here's the thing: we were forced to think Sasuke has gone good JUST because he wants to protect the village. However, we don't know his plan, why? Because it's made to be a twist and all hints are pointing something not good. Could be good for some, but all in all bad. Think as Kira from Death Note. His philosophy isn't bad but it's bad in nature. We know we have bad people and at times, want them dead, so he will grant that. But human nature, it's wrong. Who to Sasuke's tactic is right but overall wrong? Time will tell.

So basically, Danzo on a much much higher scale, right?

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:27 PM

So basically, Danzo on a much much higher scale, right?


It's possible.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

It's possible.

Oh alright. Thanks to you and NarutoFireFoxUzumaki :D

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:36 PM

Oh alright. But Sasuke changed his mind sometime back right? I mean Hashirama freed him from his ill feelings and instantaneously, on a whim he said, 'I am going to protect Konoha!' :/. This fight was supposed to happen if Sasuke was to attack Konoha and so this means the fight is not going to happen, right? :/

 

So basically, Danzo on a much much higher scale, right?

 

 

Like 4life said the reasons are different but that fight is still happening  Sasuke wants to become Hokage for his own selfish reasons and he wants to "protect" the village because of Itachi not because he cares about the Leaf or the people and Naruto is his obstacle in achieving his goal plus Naruto represents the Hokages their philosophy and is a part of the old system that he wants to destroy furthermore he wants to achieve that by force and doesn't care what anyone thinks about that , its mix of many things but yeah Danzo is the correct answer .  

 

Oh alright. Thanks to you and NarutoFireFoxUzumaki :D

No prob   :thumb: .


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 02:19 PM

Like 4life said the reasons are different but that fight is still happening  Sasuke wants to become Hokage for his own selfish reasons and he wants to "protect" the village because of Itachi not because he cares about the Leaf or the people and Naruto is his obstacle in achieving his goal plus Naruto represents the Hokages their philosophy and is a part of the old system that he wants to destroy furthermore he wants to achieve that by force and doesn't care what anyone thinks about that , its mix of many things but yeah Danzo is the correct answer .  
 
No prob   :thumb: .

You know, after you guys stating the reasons, my desire to see Sasuke getting crushed by Naruto has increased even more. I do wish, Naruto does that in the final fight atleast. Anyways, thanks again :D

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 02:53 PM

I just realized that this Is just like when hinata fell down. LOL She fell down, thought about Naruto. We didn't see her for a good set of chapters. Now she is caught by the tree and thought of Naruto AGAIN and now we won't see her for a long time. I bet a NS scene happen soon like the CPR scene.



 


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 03:11 PM

I just realized that this Is just like when hinata fell down. LOL She fell down, thought about Naruto. We didn't see her for a good set of chapters. Now she is caught by the tree and thought of Naruto AGAIN and now we won't see her for a long time. I bet a NS scene happen soon like the CPR scene.


You know, I will laugh if Naruto makes a speech, we just look at a panel of Hinata in a cocoon and muffles "Naruto-kun".

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 03:17 PM

I just realized that this Is just like when hinata fell down. LOL She fell down, thought about Naruto. We didn't see her for a good set of chapters. Now she is caught by the tree and thought of Naruto AGAIN and now we won't see her for a long time. I bet a NS scene happen soon like the CPR scene.

There is a high possibility that it will happen in the next or next to next chapter. If we observe carefully or to put it in better words, if we are to play a devil's advocate, whenever the 3 major pairings are involved, they follow some pattern. So I guess, we might get a moment in the next chapter or the next to next one, not sure of the magnitude though. This is just a speculation/theory and well, I can be proven wrong too :P

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:23 PM

I just realized that this Is just like when hinata fell down. LOL She fell down, thought about Naruto. We didn't see her for a good set of chapters. Now she is caught by the tree and thought of Naruto AGAIN and now we won't see her for a long time. I bet a NS scene happen soon like the CPR scene.

Feeding a starving fandom breadcrumbs tends to work.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:39 PM

There is a high possibility that it will happen in the next or next to next chapter. If we observe carefully or to put it in better words, if we are to play a devil's advocate, whenever the 3 major pairings are involved, they follow some pattern. So I guess, we might get a moment in the next chapter or the next to next one, not sure of the magnitude though. This is just a speculation/theory and well, I can be proven wrong too :P

I predict Minato dropping another NS FTG bomb and send NH/SS into a kitten-hole  and maybe Obito to Kamui NH/SS into a black-hole never to be seen again  :hehehe: .


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:08 PM

I predict Minato dropping another NS FTG bomb and send NH/SS into a kitten-hole  and maybe Obito to Kamui NH/SS into a black-hole never to be seen again  :hehehe: .

Lol, Minato is our trump card XD. Last time, he dropped the girlfriend comment when he didn't even knew about the chemistry between Naruto and Sakura. Now that he knows about it and also what lengths Sakura went to save his dearest son and on top of that when Sakura reminds him of Kushina, I wonder how much of a storm his next comment gonna cause XD.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:44 PM

I would love Minato to say something when he'll disappear.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:49 PM

I would love Minato to say something when he'll disappear.

"Hinata is the one for you!!!!" *disappears*

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 06:03 PM

"Hinata is the one for you!!!!" *disappears*

And he disappears because Sakura punches him into oblivion, for saying that.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 06:09 PM

I want Minato to disappear the way forerunners disappear. Go out in particles. Anyway, I'm telling you, he can hear Hinata still saying Naruto-Kun inside that cocoon.




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