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[CloudMountainJuror]

 

I don't really agree with that.

We are talking about a fictionnal story where character can be cut in two halves then just be paste back together.

In Naruto's world Kishi created, we were never been talked about hygiene in medicine.

So why are we discussing it right now ?

I think it's a mistake to compare this manga with the reality we all know.

It's true Kishi kept certain things real until now, but a lot other things are so unreal if we consider our world.

So why bother with clean hands or anything else ?

It's really not considerable IMO.

 

About Neji, it's true his death was forced, i agree with you about that, but I think it's false to say that main characters are falling from everywhere. Ok Naruto and Sasuke are down, but really we know they're no gonna stay dead.

On the contrary, Kishi as always proven us he has difficulties to kill main characters.

To be honest, I'm glad he actually killed some of them, this brings more "true-ness" to the story IMO.

 

I don't know, considering they have human anatomy maintaining good hygiene seems like common sense.

 

I should also probably point out that the "main characters are dropping like flies" was intended to have an exaggerated/joking tone to it. I probably didn't make it obvious enough, so my bad on that.

615 sure feels like a distant memory...

 

I wish I could say the same lol. 614 and 615 will forever stick in my mind whenever I think of Naruto. That's where the war arc took a major plunge and my emotional investment in the series died shortly after. Madara's the reason I'm here. And, if he comes back, Kabuto.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 07 February 2014 - 01:08 AM.

[Rozette]

 

Sometimes I have to laugh at the stuff that hangs people up.  This chapter seems to have pushed a lot of buttons, namely Sakura performing CPR.  

 

C is for Cardio.  When manual external chest compression failed to restart Naruto's heart, Sakura bravely resorted to cardiac massage.  But for some it was too gross, not realistic, impossible to perform, a lame decision by Kishimoto, etc., etc., etc.  Except... for a medically trained person it's not gross, it's not unrealistic since such a technique is practiced in real world medicine today, and it's obviously not impossible to perform in real life OR in Kishimoto's universe. 

 

Unsanitary?  A lame decision?  Really?  That's the problem?

 

In a story where characters can transplant eyes by themselves (also with dirty hands), a character can be smashed in half and not only survive but be 100% restored by a giant slug, where life can be restored by concentrating physical and spiritual energy into a particular series of hand gestures, and DNA splicing and injection can result in a human face protruding from a (formerly dead) man's chest -- the fact that a medical-nin can turn her fingers into a scalpel and perform cardiac massage is over the line believability-wise?  SMH

 

P is for Pulmonary.  Obviously it's a deep flaw in Sakura's character that she didn't stop to brush her teeth and gargle with mouthwash before she started mouth-to-mouth.  Delivering critical oxygen to Naruto's blood to save his brain from damage or death is nothing compared to the importance of being minty fresh.  /sarcasm

 

R is for Resuscitation.  Right now Naruto is dead.  DEAD.  Does it really matter if Sakura's breath happens to be bad?  What are the odds that Naruto's breath is any better?  Would he even care if Sakura's was terrible?  I mean, forget about the fact that she's trying to save his life; he might want to feel her lips on his enough to suffer her breath regardless.  True love is blind, you know.  It probably can't smell, either.

 

*sigh*

 

I also don't get the continued fixation on a potential threat from SS.  Even if/when Sakura finds out Sasuke has been mortally wounded, that doesn't mean she would rush to him. Being concerned or upset that he's dead or near it is a different motivation than faltering in the face of taking on  the responsibility for killing him herself.  Nevertheless, since she made two attempts to kill Sasuke and was prepared for Naruto to hate her for it, I believe she is well past the "OMG!!!!  Sasuke is near death and I must rush to him!!!" stage.  Especially not with Naruto's life literally in her hands.

 

And Especially not since Sasuke is surrounded by his new team and Orochimaru.  Sasuke chose a different path and chose to surround himself with different people.  Karin is capable of healing Sasuke, and in all likelihood he will be back on his feet before Naruto is back on his feet and returns to the battlefield.

 

IDK.  I just don't get why every time something good or positive -- or just plain cool and exciting -- happens for or between NS, it has to be dragged down with the nonsense comments of haters and the fear of NH and SS.  Can't we just enjoy the moment?

 

It's an overused phrase now, but yeah, haters are going to hate.  If you keep still for a moment and listen, that sound you hear is haters scraping the bottom of the butthurt barrel for things to hate about Sakura -- and Kishimoto if he's going to persist with making her the heroine.

 

Doesn't change the fact that Sakura RULES, that she's the girl Naruto loves, that she's the one at his side, and that right now -- with gritty courage and determination and bare hands -- she's the only one bridging the gap between life and death for Naruto.

 

 

I laughed reading that.  Excellent post as usual, KnS.

 

I just wanted to say, though... do people seem to forget about Naruto's own personal hygiene? He's been shown to wake up and eat ramen first thing in the morning, then leave without even brushing his teeth or washing his face. Why would he give the slightest care in the world what Sakura's breath smelled like? I think he'd thoroughly enjoy it, whether it smelled like week old fish or fresh as a daisy. 

[Lodus]

What do you guys think are the chances of kishi going more in depth into the uzumaki clan history? ... I know it's late, but I can see the series closing with a final explanation and all. I'd like to know more about their history and jutsu.

Maybe a spin off?? (:

Edited by Lodus, 07 February 2014 - 02:53 AM.

[Inferno180]

For the fans just going on about downplaying sakura and praising hinata, it makes no difference at this point, hinata could pick her nose and wipe a booger somewhere and they would still go ohh and ahh at her.

Sakura understood narutos plight in 630, vowed to fight. Alongside him, summoned katsuyu and healed many people, now she is saving narutos life, and this whole time she has been focused on naruto, not Sasuke even that much, but no yeah hinata fixing a shoulder something anyone could do, that deserves praise. Sakura vowing to keep naruto alive at all costs they still just say well she loves Sasuke.

To some fans, they are just brain dead at this point in coming to accept that sakura has changed, their preception of sakura is based in one that died over 7 years ago, the sakura they say that abuses naruto, cares nothing, only loves Sasuke, she has been gone for the longest time. The sakura today cares so much for naruto, she is the girl who is determined to do anything to protect and save him and help him achieve his dream. But no even if these scenes with her remembering his dream and saying how close he came to it, people still say she only likes him like a brother or that she is giving an emotionless reaction saying she doesn't like him. Yeah because she doesn't care that's why she was ready to cry at the end of 662, but hey hinata is perfect, she can save naruto simply by loving him and her love will touch naruto so much be will feel better by the loving energy hinata puts out and this will amaze Madara to the point he starts feeling warm and fuzzy and instead decides to surrender and as the sage ensure world peace.

Saying that made me feel sick, now i gotta go rinse my mouth out with listerine.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I answered this thousand of times.
 
Two or three years ago he was interviewed by a english speaker guy who was behind the Sj alpha english in other words Viz Media so he already knew about Naruto's popularity.
In fact it indeed influenced him and the Sakura's part and Hinata's development are there to prove it.
I think he's a bad writer for couple of reasons and for the fact he prevented himself to go further and started "plot for dummies" Naruto's plot got simplified a lot with the chasing Sasuke issue when there was a lot of good writing plots that he left behind.
In my opinion he's a bad manga because his story is full of missed oportunities and good plots that were discarded in favour of crappy ones "Naruto's desire to save the jinchuurikis and a reasoning on the begining of the shippuuden plus the akatsuki" was discarded in favour of "two Sasuke chases".
Kishimoto ripping off Hunter x Hunter's plot during the entire part 1, Shipppuuden was the arc where he was writing his own plot.

 

 

Yeah, and he's been to events too, so what's your point?  Objectively, Kishimoto may know the manga is popular, but as he himself said, the fact hasn't really hit him in that sort of way.  While the manga is popular, he hasn't actually felt that it is.  If he doesn't feel that he has a popular manga on his hands, he wouldn't be dealing with the pressures of drawing one either.  Also, it's bit of a stretch to say that the Sakura and Hinata development has happened the way it has, because he was influenced by the English-speaking fanbase, that isn't even his main audience.

 

From what your telling me, you think it's bad because the direction the manga took wasn't one that you wanted to happen.  That's your opinion, of course. Nothing wrong with that.  However, you have to have factual reasons and evidence to want to call any kind of work bad.  Otherwise, it's just not your preferred preference.  I don't know much about HunterxHunter, but from what I have seen from that show, I can say Naruto part one is not a carbon copy of it.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 07 February 2014 - 03:02 AM.

[Cherry-Bloss93]

Or if Kishi wants Naruto to be Naruto (and I realize this is a slim chance), he could make him open his eyes slightly, while Sakura is giving him CPR, close them, and then start blushing moderately.

That would be like Naruto xD Although I don't see him waking up any time soon - or at least not until he manages to get the other half of Kurama

[MangaReader]

That would be like Naruto xD Although I don't see him waking up any time soon - or at least not until he manages to get the other half of Kurama

I'd say if he heard about he'd crack a joke, but he said he'd never make jokes around Sakura again out of fear that she'd...kill him lol XD

[Transformers03]

Lately I have been thinking to myself about this chapter, and why a lot of us are so happy with this chapter, despite the fact most of us accept the fact that Sakura's actions aren't necessary romantic. After thinking about it for a day, I came up with two theories of why many of us are celebrating about what happen in this chapter.

 

The first theory is that I think people were just caught off guard by the CPR. I know some of us were hoping it will happen, and others even predicted it will happen, but I don't think majority actually believe it will happen because kissing is such a rarity in Shonen Manga. Even CPRs are not even common, so the fact that the series will show something pretty risque for manga for teens and pre-teens. Kishi didn't need to have Sakura perform CPR on Naruto, in fact he didn't need to have her cut into Naruto and message his heart. He could just had her do her normal thing of having her hands over Naruto's body, and do her normal medical ninja stuff and we would have all bought it. He didn't need to go the extra mile to have her do that. While I believe he did that to show Sakura in very capable and awesome situation, it is still find it kind of remarkable for the Naruto series to actually show an opposite gender lip-to-lip action and not be comedy focus. 

 

My second theory is that I feel like having Karin in the same chapter trying to save Sasuke, kind presents an interesting comparison to Sakura's attempts in saving Naruto. I brought this up in the previous chapter's thread, we all know that Karin, without a doubt or argument, loves Sasuke. So when see her doing everything in her power to save Sasuke, we know it is out of romantic love. Coincidently enough, Sakura is also trying to save the life of Naruto in the same chapter. Since readers are already under the impression that Karin's actions are for her love for Sasuke, it isn't hard for most readers to make a similar assumption for Sakura and Naruto in the same chapter. Though obviously Sakura will try to save Naruto out of love, we don't essentially know it isn't the same kind of love for Karin. As mention beforehand, Karin is literally doing everything in her power to help Sasuke, and we know she loves him romantically. We also know that Sakura is also literally doing everything in her to help Naruto.

 

If both of those scenes didn't take place in the same chapter, then I wouldn't come up with this theory of why us NS fans like this chapter so much. However they did happen in the same chapter, and we got Kishi finally putting in an opposite gender lip-to-lip action (unless I am forgetting something). I think it is the combination of the two theories that explains why so many of us are soo satisfied with this chapter.

[Nutt Man 117]

Lucky Naruto

[Transformers03]

God dang it! I wrote another long post that no one will read. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lately I have been thinking to myself about this chapter, and why a lot of us are so happy with this chapter, despite the fact most of us accept the fact that Sakura's actions aren't necessary romantic. After thinking about it for a day, I came up with two theories of why many of us are celebrating about what happen in this chapter.

 

The first theory is that I think people were just caught off guard by the CPR. I know some of us were hoping it will happen, and others even predicted it will happen, but I don't think majority actually believe it will happen because kissing is such a rarity in Shonen Manga. Even CPRs are not even common, so the fact that the series will show something pretty risque for manga for teens and pre-teens. Kishi didn't need to have Sakura perform CPR on Naruto, in fact he didn't need to have her cut into Naruto and message his heart. He could just had her do her normal thing of having her hands over Naruto's body, and do her normal medical ninja stuff and we would have all bought it. He didn't need to go the extra mile to have her do that. While I believe he did that to show Sakura in very capable and awesome situation, it is still find it kind of remarkable for the Naruto series to actually show an opposite gender lip-to-lip action and not be comedy focus. 

 

My second theory is that I feel like having Karin in the same chapter trying to save Sasuke, kind presents an interesting comparison to Sakura's attempts in saving Naruto. I brought this up in the previous chapter's thread, we all know that Karin, without a doubt or argument, loves Sasuke. So when see her doing everything in her power to save Sasuke, we know it is out of romantic love. Coincidently enough, Sakura is also trying to save the life of Naruto in the same chapter. Since readers are already under the impression that Karin's actions are for her love for Sasuke, it isn't hard for most readers to make a similar assumption for Sakura and Naruto in the same chapter. Though obviously Sakura will try to save Naruto out of love, we don't essentially know it isn't the same kind of love for Karin. As mention beforehand, Karin is literally doing everything in her power to help Sasuke, and we know she loves him romantically. We also know that Sakura is also literally doing everything in her to help Naruto.

 

If both of those scenes didn't take place in the same chapter, then I wouldn't come up with this theory of why us NS fans like this chapter so much. However they did happen in the same chapter, and we got Kishi finally putting in an opposite gender lip-to-lip action (unless I am forgetting something). I think it is the combination of the two theories that explains why so many of us are soo satisfied with this chapter.

Well I can't speak for all of us, but I would say you hit the spot. Well, the reason why I am happy yet shocked was because last post I made was warning everyone, mainly NS and even SK, that we don't know where Gaara is going to, but once we know that doesn't involve Sasuke, then we can go all happy. The reason why we should be, regardless if you only like one of them, is because this is not necessarily Team 7 based, rather Team 7/Taka, but no doubt, Kishi purposely made Sakura/Karin noticeable highlight because they're the one with potential love (as Karin is already confirmed). It's like putting the romantic partner in front while everyone does their thing.

 

Now what I mean about Team 7 based is that if Sakura were to pick up Sasuke, then the whole moment is about Team 7 because Sakura's thoughts would be about team, like she couldn't protect them, etc. But no, to my surprise, Kishi made this development a personal one, hence Sakura only thinking about Naruto. Karin just unlocked a new jutsu, which shocked all of her team, including Orochimaru realizing something. This is a big win and still continue to progress. Lastly, Sakura became Naruto's life support, so she can't leave at all until the problem is over. Also, Sasuke is getting his rescue by Team Taka, or possibly the mysterious person. Either way, Sakura is working with Naruto as Karin/others is working with Sasuke. So yeah, we got all the reasons to go "YES! YES! YES!"

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 February 2014 - 03:55 AM.

[pizza_blade]

We're all so happy that Naruto is on the verge of dying, aren't we, hahahaha.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I gotta admit, the SasuKarin/NaruSaku parallels the last two chapters were pretty intense. It's interesting that Kishimoto chose Sakura to try to save Naruto and Karin to try to save Sasuke. The way it's set it up implies a hell of a lot foreshadowing if Kishi wants to take that direction. The impact for me went both ways. SasuKarin's parallel to NaruSaku made me more open to it becoming canon since NS is the most likely endgame pair, but I'd say Sakura's parallel to Karin was also impactful and it could imply romantic love.

 

I still hate SasuKarin. But I'm not close-minded enough to deny that parallel between NS/SK won't mean anything. Whatever Kishimoto has in store for SK, I can still say NaruSaku will be canon.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I gotta admit, the SasuKarin/NaruSaku parallels the last two chapters were pretty intense. It's interesting that Kishimoto chose Sakura to try to save Naruto and Karin to try to save Sasuke. The way it's set it up implies a hell of a lot foreshadowing if Kishi wants to take that direction. The impact for me went both ways. SasuKarin's parallel to NaruSaku made me more open to it becoming canon since NS is the most likely endgame pair, but I'd say Sakura's parallel to Karin was also impactful and it could imply romantic love.

 

I still hate SasuKarin. But I'm not close-minded enough to deny that parallel between NS/SK won't mean anything. Whatever Kishimoto has in store for SK, I can still say NaruSaku will be canon.

It is crazy, no. I'm actually shock the direction it's going. Really.

[FireFox]

Any information about the RAW chapter ? Has it come out yet ? If it is can someone translate the Sakura part all of it please and thanks .

 

BTW any thoughts about the Karin and Kushina thing the comparation was made exactly in the same fashion as it was for the Naruto and MItto one , so what does that mean ? is there more to it or is it just an Uzumaki thing .    

[TouKen4Life3g]

Any information about the RAW chapter ? Has it come out yet ? If it is can someone translate the Sakura part all of it please and thanks .
 
BTW any thoughts about the Karin and Kushina thing the comparation was made exactly in the same fashion as it was for the Naruto and MItto one , so what does that mean ? is there more to it or is it just an Uzumaki thing .    

Rikudou will be the first to announce the raw release, so it's only matter of time.

[thiagoSPTN]

 

Here you go my friend

 

 

This is the kind of thing that I really don't understand.

People are saying that the CPR wasn't a NaruSaku moment, and then they make these kind of stuff. I know I'm generalizing, but you know, they just say that cause it didn't happen with their pairing.

The kind of people that do these edits, is the same kind that deny what really happened. And then they don't want to be called hypocrite.

[CloudMountainJuror]

 

Here you go my friend

 

 

This looks so awkward. Like, the expression on her face mixed with the blush screams "I'M KISSING AS HARD AS I CAN BUT I MUST KISS EVEN HARDER".

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not going to lie, but they really did that? Why? The funny thing is when I see a replacement fanart, like the hug scene being Hinata instead, I just think it's a joke from someone, rather than A NH fan. But this one looks a lot of work gone into it. I mean look at it. Not an simple edit. So what the hell...

Oh well, back to NS talk. I wonder what's next...

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 February 2014 - 05:50 AM.

[KeikoxYusuke]

I'm in the process of rewatching the Naruto anime, (I'll be skipping most fillers ) and I keep finding my self drawn to looking at the wonderful build-up of narusaku that slextrem made....right now, I feel very good about our pairing. It's like all the pieces are falling into place....

Honestly though, after the road to ninja movie, what's to be so shocked about narusaku? Not to mention the shipping endings and openings....it's not even vague anymore!

I think the denial is what bugs me the most. I'm glad I haven't bothered to watch sawyer, I'm not even subbed to him anymore. Ever since the chapter when Sakura unleashed her seal......which was total badass... He right away downplayed it. I called him out on it. He was like all the others who acted like the Hinata focus was the coolest thing ever, and giving her credit. Which is cool, I mean, I enjoyed her moments too, so...idk...I guess I was hoping he would give Sakura the same treatment. Anyway, this was so long ago...but ever since then, I haven't wanted to watch a reveiw with sawyer...he has his funny moments, but if he can't get over his dislike for Sakura,and his dislike for narusaku...it just....bothers me.


Long story short, I think everybody deep done feels that narusaku is going to happen. It doesn't matter if you go by the manga only or the anime, the clues for narusaku are far more noticeable. The only time the anime team overdid a tease for a ship that was never ment to be would be the pain arc with Hinata. That was it. Fake backstory and everything. Copying Sakura's bullying backstory even! Blah!

Really cute tho....v.v and confusing to pairing fans....(just picture if you were unsure of who the cannon pairing was! and the first episode you saw was that one??it would make anyone thing that naruhina had more behind it then it actually did! )


.....wow I have no idea why i wrote all this... Late night ramblings...x.x