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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

To be fair, she does have history with Sasuke as a companion/friend and at one point back in P1 he did seem to cherish her alongside Naruto as his "new family". Her original reasoning for "loving" Sasuke did have respectable legitimacy to itself because of her desire to be acknowledged by someone which is more than I can say for most of Sasuke's in-world fanbase. It doesn't negate everything that has happened afterward but Sakura's willingness to cling to Sasuke as someone important in her life is more understandable than something like what we saw with Ino and her recent thoughts.

This is the real problem on Sakura's confession she pointed out what Naruto did to her and basically it was him who give her the most of her development and was at her side, so she did thought about her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto, and still didnt had a valid reason on the ending.

When she as on the team 7 she said what makes her happy the most and it was the team 7 not Sasuke alone, she then claimed she would be lonely and whatever and still turned out to be a lie.

If you're speaking in evolutionary terms then I suppose the individual who is the most physically attractive and efficient would be practical but for this story such traits should not be the only things to consider.

This is the problem if Sasuke give her development or added something to her character or even give her a pep talk i would at least consider that she does have a reason to love him because at least shows that he supported her but it wasnt the case he never supported her.

Sasuke is a horrible person when it comes to personality and relationships. He's a vindictive recluse who was almost always fixated on revenge except for a few instances like when he was a child and during his time with Team 7. Granted for some time in P2 he did seem to be forming a bond of sorts with Hebi/Taka but we've seen how unpredictable Sasuke is with how he's willing to abandon or even kill those he finds to be a burden. He's not exactly a trustworthy or sociable person to be around.

Sasuke is a horrible person even if he gets redeemed.

[HauntedCake]

To be fair, she does have history with Sasuke as a companion/friend and at one point back in P1 he did seem to cherish her alongside Naruto as his "new family". Her original reasoning for "loving" Sasuke did have respectable legitimacy to itself because of her desire to be acknowledged by someone which is more than I can say for most of Sasuke's in-world fanbase. It doesn't negate everything that has happened afterward but Sakura's willingness to cling to Sasuke as someone important in her life is more understandable than something like what we saw with Ino and her recent thoughts.



If you're speaking in evolutionary terms then I suppose the individual who is the most physically attractive and efficient would be practical but for this story such traits should not be the only things to consider.

bolded: I would say that is more instinctive for females to seek out the strongest/most attractive. However loyalty in all means and terms is something heavily overlooked and is something that comes back around to really hurt them when they can't find someone both attractive/strong and loyal. There are ofc people who are both ( i would say Naruto at this point is), but sasuke is clearly not trustworthy/relationship material.

Underlined: can't agree with that at all. Sakura only belived thsat Sasuke could fulfill her/meet her need for acknowledgement. She was blind to Naruto and could never see how much more Naruto could offer her. Her clinging is no better then Ino or karin's.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

bolded: I would say that is more instinctive for females to seek out the strongest/most attractive. However loyalty in all means and terms is something heavily overlooked and is something that comes back around to really hurt them when they can't find someone both attractive/strong and loyal. There are ofc people who are both ( i would say Naruto at this point is), but sasuke is clearly not trustworthy/relationship material.

Underlined: can't agree with that at all. Sakura only belived thsat Sasuke could fulfill her/meet her need for acknowledgement. She was blind to Naruto and could never see how much more Naruto could offer her. Her clinging is no better then Ino or karin's.

Ino is better, Sasuke never did anything wrong with her after all, i would say Ino>Karin>Sakura. in terms of reasoning, i remember on the bench scene and when she only wanted his acknowledgement nad he give it to her on her confession but still it's kinda stupid.

[Atheck]

Underlined: can't agree with that at all. Sakura only belived thsat Sasuke could fulfill her/meet her need for acknowledgement. She was blind to Naruto and could never see how much more Naruto could offer her. Her clinging is no better then Ino or karin's.

I'm not justifying her desire to cling to Sasuke, it's merely a comparison to the thoughts of others such as Ino which was downright pathetic. Sakura, along with desiring Sasuke because of his appearance and "cool" personality, held a selfish albeit logical motivation to simply be acknowledged presumably because she had been mocked during her childhood and similar to Naruto she wanted to reverse those notions and receive positive acknowledgement. No such justifications were ever made or suggested of Ino. From what little information we have to go on about Ino's reasons for "loving" Sasuke they seem very superficial in nature. That is what I was trying to get at by comparing the intricacies for Sakura and Ino's respective purposes for loving this unstable man.

Edit: Say what you will about Sakura's motivations but when you consider that Ino knows next to nothing about Sasuke apart from the fact that he was aloof and that he betrayed the village then to refer to that infatuation which she is apparently still clinging to as a "positive love" is absolutely sickening. There is no reason whatsoever for her to have such sentiments even when they were still at the academy.

Edited by Atheck, 13 April 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[六道仙人]

What if Sakura will do the opposite of Karin? That she'll say to Sasuke she can't forgive him for all those attempted murders but at least cares for him because she wants the old team 7 can back...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

What if Sakura will do the opposite of Karin? That she'll say to Sasuke she can't forgive him for all those attempted murders but at least cares for him because she wants the old team 7 can back...

I would laugh over laugh.
Sakura is the least who shows reasons that she would to shift into maximun fangirl over mode, if she does i really wont care about her character anymore, and most important i would've dropped.

What if Naruto sees Karin hiting Suigetsu and thinks she's like my mom.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 April 2013 - 03:56 PM.

[Baguette]

What if Sakura will do the opposite of Karin? That she'll say to Sasuke she can't forgive him for all those attempted murders but at least cares for him because she wants the old team 7 can back...

That would imply Sakura only getting with Naruto because of Sasuke's temporary descent into madness.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That would imply Sakura only getting with Naruto because of Sasuke's temporary descent into madness.

It doesnt make sense, he's "redeemed".
Also, Nada a vê.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 April 2013 - 03:57 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I'm not justifying her desire to cling to Sasuke, it's merely a comparison to the thoughts of others such as Ino which was downright pathetic. Sakura, along with desiring Sasuke because of his appearance and "cool" personality, held a selfish albeit logical motivation to simply be acknowledged presumably because she had been mocked during her childhood and similar to Naruto she wanted to reverse those notions and receive positive acknowledgement. No such justifications were ever made or suggested of Ino. From what little information we have to go on about Ino's reasons for "loving" Sasuke they seem very superficial in nature. That is what I was trying to get at by comparing the intricacies for Sakura and Ino's respective purposes for loving this unstable man.

Edit: Say what you will about Sakura's motivations but when you consider that Ino knows next to nothing about Sasuke apart from the fact that he was aloof and that he betrayed the village then to refer to that infatuation which she is apparently still clinging to as a "positive love" is absolutely sickening. There is no reason whatsoever for her to have such sentiments even when they were still at the academy.

Agreed. Its a shame the girls seem to believe acknoledgement from the strongest/most attractive is most meaningful.

What if Sakura will do the opposite of Karin? That she'll say to Sasuke she can't forgive him for all those attempted murders but at least cares for him because she wants the old team 7 can back...

Yeah maybe this has been set up by Kishi, by sacrificing Karin dignity. Sasuke will say sorry but maybe she will reject that apology.

[六道仙人]

That would imply Sakura only getting with Naruto because of Sasuke's temporary descent into madness.

well, I meant to say "she cares for him as comrade, not like him as the one who she loves/loved".

What I want to say is that Sakura changed after their last meeting. She only restored the faith in Sasuke thanks to Naruto's speech. I remember that Kishimoto said in Jump Festa 09 that Sakura must grow up... Well, this's the right moment where Sakura must really grow up.

Edited by 六道仙人, 13 April 2013 - 04:00 PM.

[merryGOflava]

so...now that sasuke more or less redeemed himself.....
does that mean no naruto vs sasuke fight???? 0_0

[TouKen4Life3g]

well, I meant to say "she cares for him as comrade, not like him as the one who she loves/loved".

What I want to say is that Sakura changed after their last meeting. She only restored the faith in Sasuke thanks to Naruto's speech. I remember that Kishimoto said in Jump Festa 09 that Sakura must grow up... Well, this's the right moment where Sakura must really grow up.

Well yeah, her growth is in pending. Not sure when and where but it seems like complete reality check will happen to her. He has been receiving this for the past well series. Now ever since Kage Summit Arc, Kishi just feels the need to bring back romance again.

Someone in here was talking about SK. It is possible that it could leave interpretation in the end and/or don't have on-screen developments to show all the wonders, because it's not the main one. They're usually shown very little compare to the main one. I will say this though. At this rate, if there's nothing going on with Sasuke and Karin as in twists, then this could be like GrayXJuvia: troublesome, but can it work. Especially if she's really goes her way to show affections openly, which I never notice until now, then yeah, it seems like I'm right.

so...now that sasuke more or less redeemed himself.....
does that mean no naruto vs sasuke fight???? 0_0

I think a new stake will be on the line and we just have to wait for that moment to arrive.

[Tokura Misaki]

so...now that sasuke more or less redeemed himself.....
does that mean no naruto vs sasuke fight???? 0_0

It depends on Kishi. Now the sauce has redeemed, my hatred towards him becomes half.

[merryGOflava]

I think a new stake will be on the line and we just have to wait for that moment to arrive.

well if he stays good at least naruto won't have that chance of dying with him in battle........positivity right?

[AzureWaters]

What if Sakura will do the opposite of Karin? That she'll say to Sasuke she can't forgive him for all those attempted murders but at least cares for him because she wants the old team 7 can back...

Even if she accepts the apology, she won't be like Karin whose response was to such an extreme that it wasn't in the least bit touching.

[TouKen4Life3g]

well if he stays good at least naruto won't have that chance of dying with him in battle........positivity right?

Well that's the thing, we don't know what's on his mind now. All we know is that he wants to stop Madara. That's it. Is he coming back? Don't know. Is he finally accepting Team 7 as family? Don't know. Will there be Naruto vs. Sasuke? Yes. Will there be a battle to the death? Can't say. To me, I'm not sold that he's completely good because the way I see it is that he's putting an end to the story of him and his brother and that's to keep the sacrifice meaningful. He only said one sentence and we don't know anything else. It's vague and leaves all of us guessing.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well that's the thing, we don't know what's on his mind now. All we know is that he wants to stop Madara. That's it. Is he coming back? Don't know. Is he finally accepting Team 7 as family? Don't know. Will there be Naruto vs. Sasuke? Yes. Will there be a battle to the death? Can't say. To me, I'm not sold that he's completely good because the way I see it is that he's putting an end to the story of him and his brother and that's to keep the sacrifice meaningful. He only said one sentence and we don't know anything else. It's vague and leaves all of us guessing.

I went to the other NaruSaku forum and the reaction was extremely positive o.O

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 April 2013 - 07:35 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I went to the other NaruSaku forum and the reaction was extremely positive o.O

What do you mean? Where? I can't say I am nor I am not. And it's not pairing related. My main concern is about the end match between Naruto vs. Sasuke: gone or new stake. Anyway, what do you mean about that?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

What do you mean? Where? I can't say I am nor I am not. And it's not pairing related. My main concern is about the end match between Naruto vs. Sasuke: gone or new stake. Anyway, what do you mean about that?

He confirmed there will be a fight between Naruto and Sasuke, but still i'm not sure about this whole sasuke redemption.
He does not care about the village, he only desired to protect due to his brother but if like Orochimaru hinted Sasuke chose a different path, Madara also wanted to protect his clan and the village which was his dream but he believes that his plan would bring them to another level, bring peace to the whole world, this is where i belive, Kishimoto improved sasuke's character a bit, to not be a guy fueled by revenge but with another objectives.

And also if Sasuke was just about revenge the final fight would be stupid.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 April 2013 - 07:45 PM.

[archangel]

I just got this thought, is Sasuke without knowing plays in Tobi hand. I mean I just woke up and get this flash. When Sasuke join Akatsuki, Tobi talk afterward with zetsu about he gamble on telling the truth about Itachi to Sasuke. Zetsu says we lost so many member and all but tobi said yes, we have lost so many but it was worth it cuz we've got 7 of the tailed beast but most importantly, I've got Sasuke. Zetsu report Sasuke fight with Itachi to Tobi and Tobi watch Sasuke fight with danzo to see how much he progress. He save him to at the kage summit. Why would he do that if Sasuke not needed at one point in his plan. Since the war start and if want the Nine-tails out of it, I don't think he just want to see Naruto and Sasuke fight. So what do you think guys? Is Sasuke Tobi's trump card and Sasuke doesn't know? IF not honestly, this guy sucks as a villain( I mean without Kabuto, there's no Madara in field to so the kage would be in this battlefield as well so I think the war would have last like 30 min:P, more like until Naruto show up to take down the infiltrate Zetsu:P) I mean I want this guy to do something or to be at least an equal to Pain as a villain. Pain arc was awesome.

So what do you think guys? Is Sasuke Tobi's trump card and Sasuke doesn't know?